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Okay let me understand your point before I say why I asked initially. @bolded, Christ have not died for the sins of Isreal yet. Instead it will happen in the future. Is that what you are trying to say?

GodSon34:
Yes but certainly not in the way Christians see this death!
Also who is us? And the death event was not in the past..it was prophesied to occur during the end of the times of the gentiles which is now.
Hence, The coming Messiah or Christ or 'annoited one' is the 'son of Man' (From Jesse, or descendant of King David and Solomon) who is born through this bloodline i.e. The Order of Melchizedek and will die a spiritual death (that is death to self;not physical) to 'atone' for the sins of Israel (not everyone or Christians). This means that the son of man becomes the suffering servant and literally suffers (not for himself) but for the sins of Israel.

If you are a Christian then here is where I differ:

Christians believe God in the form of man - Jesus came to earth. I believe El in form of man - Melchizedek, came to earth
Christians believe this God in form of man- Jesus died. I believe El cannot die, when he left earth he promised to send the Holy Spirit or spirit of truth and also promised a Messiah or Son of man
So for Christians God died and is coming back. For me, the son of man didn't come then but will come in the order of Melchizedek
In Christianity, Jesus replaced Melchizedek
Christians believe in trinity. I believe they are three separate beings. Son of man is Man not deity or angel or God

LastDays777:
Okay let me understand your point before I say why I asked initially. @bolded, Christ have not died for the sins of Isreal yet. Instead it will happen in the future. Is that what you are trying to say?

GodSon34:
If you are a Christian then here is where I differ:

Christians believe God in the form of man - Jesus came to earth. I believe El in form of man - Melchizedek, came to earth
Christians believe this God in form of man- Jesus died. I believe El cannot die, when he left earth he promised to send the Holy Spirit or spirit of truth and also promised a Messiah or Son of man
So for Christians God died and is coming back. For me, the son of man didn't come then but will come in the order of Melchizedek
In Christianity, Jesus replaced Melchizedek
Christians believe in trinity. I believe they are three separate beings. Son of man is Man not deity or angel or God

Strange. Even Muslims and Christians believe Jesus came in flesh. Is not even a debate. That means you don't believe/trust the bible. Where do you get all this information from?

Yah well Religion has generally been corrupted. No religion is free from lies including Judaism. Only the spirit of truth can reveal such me thinks. I was a Christian until age 30, I have since seen the light!

The point is we can all agree someone came to earth. The question is who?
How can one person-Jesus be God, Son of God (which is an angel) and son of man (Man)
Jesus wan collect all possible titles! It's not possible. Jesus claimed his father was God. If his father was God then that rules him out of the son of man title
Quite frankly the trinity doctrine makes no sense. I never believed it even as a Christian

LastDays777:
Strange. Even Muslims and Christians believe Jesus came in flesh. Is not even a debate. That means you don't believe/trust the bible. Where do you get all this information from?

In so many parts of the bible it talks about truth and salvation. If the bible is truth why does it talk so much about truth. What I do know is that salvation is linked to truth...if the bible was all truth then why the notion of was blind but now I see. Was lost but now I'm found..
Why do we need to be born again? So we can be transformed by the renewing of our minds to prove that good and acceptable will of the Most High. Only the spirit of truth can reveal truth else there would be no need for him to be sent. And the bible also says that the world will not know him. Also, the Most High never created the world. Satan did. Most High created the Heavens and the earth. The earth and world are not the same thing. There is generally a lack of overstanding wih regards the bible
May you find the spirit of truth and may he lead you to all truth

LastDays777:
Strange. Even Muslims and Christians believe Jesus came in flesh. Is not even a debate. That means you don't believe/trust the bible. Where do you get all this information from?

GodSon34:
Yah well Religion has generally been corrupted. No religion is free from lies including Judaism. Only the spirit of truth can reveal such me thinks. I was a Christian until age 30, I have since seen the light!

The point is we can all agree someone came to earth. The question is who?
How can one person-Jesus be God, Son of God (which is an angel) and son of man (Man)
Jesus wan collect all possible titles! It's not possible. Jesus claimed his father was God. If his father was God then that rules him out of the son of man title
Quite frankly the trinity doctrine makes no sense. I never believed it even as a Christian

Hmm

GodSon34:
In so many parts of the bible it talks about truth and salvation. If the bible is truth why does it talk so much about truth. What I do know is that salvation is linked to truth...if the bible was all truth then why the notion of was blind but now I see. Was lost but now I'm found..
Why do we need to be born again? So we can be transformed by the renewing of our minds to prove that good and acceptable will of the Most High. Only the spirit of truth can reveal truth else there would be no need for him to be sent. And the bible also says that the world will not know him. Also, the Most High never created the world. Satan did. Most High created the Heavens and the earth. The earth and world are not the same thing. There is generally a lack of overstanding wih regards the bible
May you find the spirit of truth and may he lead you to all truth

Wait a minute. So the world we live in today is not earth? ?

I have never heard of this statement before. Are you being serious

The World is best defined as a ‘false sense of reality’ or an ‘illusion’ or ‘matrix’. The world aka ‘mystery babylon’, the current system of things. The Most High did not create: Religion, Politics, nations (created tribes), the military industrial complex; Money, etc..
This was all created by man under the guidance of the Elohim (fallen angels) led by the master manipulator, Satan himself. Hence, Satan is the master and ruler of this world according to the bible. Obviously the world does exist within the boundaries of ‘earth’ or on earth. Yeah and also the earth is flat!

LastDays777:
Wait a minute. So the world we live in today is not earth? ?

I have never heard of this statement before. Are you being serious

Romans 12:
2And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

This is in direct conflict with: For God so loved the world....

So one God loves the ‘World’ and another said we should not conform to this ‘world’

You decide

GodSon34:
The World is best defined as a ‘false sense of reality’ or an ‘illusion’ or ‘matrix’. The world aka ‘mystery babylon’, the current system of things. The Most High did not create: Religion, Politics, nations (created tribes), the military industrial complex; Money, etc..
This was all created by man under the guidance of the Elohim (fallen angels) led by the master manipulator, Satan himself. Hence, Satan is the master and ruler of this world according to the bible. Obviously the world does exist within the boundaries of ‘earth’ or on earth. Yeah and also the earth is flat!

GodSon34:
The World is best defined as a ‘false sense of reality’ or an ‘illusion’ or ‘matrix’. The world aka ‘mystery babylon’, the current system of things. The Most High did not create: Religion, Politics, nations (created tribes), the military industrial complex; Money, etc..
This was all created by man under the guidance of the Elohim (fallen angels) led by the master manipulator, Satan himself. Hence, Satan is the master and ruler of this world according to the bible. Obviously the world does exist within the boundaries of ‘earth’ or on earth. Yeah and also the earth is flat!

God's, are just personification of the forces of nature.. Satan is the God of the air, he is referred to as Lord wind, the devil is the God of the under world and cross road.. Lucifer is the Goddess of death and destruction... The jews got all their information from babylon.. They started writing their Torah when they left the babylonian exile..

Satan, devil and lucifer are not independent of God, they are all part of God just like me and you...

My info has nothing to do with Judaism and the Torah. It’s based on ancient Hebrew history which is what all three Abrahamic faiths are based on.

sonmvayina:
God's, are just personification of the forces of nature.. Satan is the God of the air, he is referred to as Lord wind, the devil is the God of the under world and cross road.. Lucifer is the Goddess of death and destruction... The jews got all their information from babylon.. They started writing their Torah when they left the babylonian exile..

Satan, devil and lucifer are not independent of God, they are all part of God just like me and you...

GodSon34:
The World is best defined as a ‘false sense of reality’ or an ‘illusion’ or ‘matrix’. The world aka ‘mystery babylon’, the current system of things. The Most High did not create: Religion, Politics, nations (created tribes), the military industrial complex; Money, etc..
This was all created by man under the guidance of the Elohim (fallen angels) led by the master manipulator, Satan himself. Hence, Satan is the master and ruler of this world according to the bible. Obviously the world does exist within the boundaries of ‘earth’ or on earth. Yeah and also the earth is flat!

The only thing I agree with you @ bolded.
Where do you get your fact about the name "Elohim" being Satan?

GodSon34:
The World is best defined as a ‘false sense of reality’ or an ‘illusion’ or ‘matrix’. The world aka ‘mystery babylon’, the current system of things. The Most High did not create: Religion, Politics, nations (created tribes), the military industrial complex; Money, etc..
This was all created by man under the guidance of the Elohim (fallen angels) led by the master manipulator, Satan himself. Hence, Satan is the master and ruler of this world according to the bible. Obviously the world does exist within the boundaries of ‘earth’ or on earth. Yeah and also the earth is flat!

You have a vast knowledge. I think what's missing is you pray for the Holyspirit.
1. To give you understand of the things you know.
2. To guide you into all Truths.

Please try not to find offense in what i write and also read my post on How To Connect To God, Your Creator. I believe with all humility to God, confessing and believeing Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour.
, you will receive the Holyspirit.

Trust me, it's that easy. You will be amazed how much measure you will be transformed once you start operating in your true self, your spirit consciousness.

Peace and Grace be unto you.

This guy I’ve told you before I used to be a Jesus follower. You are asking me to step back into darkness. Lol
Christianity teaches blind faith rather than truth so you sheeple (sheep people) wouldn’t question things and use sense. You can’t andwer any question about scripture yet you wanna preach to me that has knowledge and truth. Get the f#ck outta here. You have no sense. Once again you never addressed the below:

Romans 12:
2And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

This is in direct conflict with: For God so loved the world....

So one God loves the ‘World’ and another said we should not conform to this ‘world’

pressplay411:
You have a vast knowledge. I think what's missing is you pray for the Holyspirit.
1. To give you understand of the things you know.
2. To guide you into all Truths.

Please try not to find offense in what i write and also read my post on How To Connect To God, Your Creator. I believe with all humility to God, confessing and believeing Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour.
, you will receive the Holyspirit.

Trust me, it's that easy. You will be amazed how much measure you will be transformed once you start operating in your true self, your spirit consciousness.

Peace and Grace be unto you.

GodSon34:
This guy I’ve told you before I used to be a Jesus follower. You are asking me to step back into darkness. Lol
Christianity teaches blind faith rather than truth so you sheeple (sheep people) wouldn’t question things and use sense. You can’t andwer any question about scripture yet you wanna preach to me that has knowledge and truth. Get the f#ck outta here. You have no sense. Once again you never addressed the below:

Romans 12:
2And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

This is in direct conflict with: For God so loved the world....

So one God loves the ‘World’ and another said we should not conform to this ‘world’

Ok. I apologise sir. I will no longer disturb you.