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Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by donvicky2007: 1:22pm On Jun 27, 2018
eezeribe:
JOHESU giving us lecture on Hepatitis B...
very soon a court clerk will give us lecture on how to judge a case...
No matter how long a LIZARD stays at the bank of a river, it can never become a CROCODILE. ..

The important thing is both Lizard and Crocodile are Reptiles...
knowledge is not domicile in one profession......... Working experience over a period of years in the hospital can give one such knowledge, medical textbooks , medical journals can give one such knowledge. Knowledge is a continuous process.

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Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by phase1: 1:32pm On Jun 27, 2018
MrBigiman:
[s]Disjointed information, given by someone who has no business giving it. The shame we found in this country. Google will not replace Lawyers, Doctors and Engineer, and should only be sort to increase patients awareness.

Health workers working with body fluids are more prone to Heb B. All health workers are advised to immunize against hepatitis. This is my little contribution.

That said, the Lab scientist in Nigeria will soon meet their waterlow. The threw microbiologist and every other course allied to diagnosis away from the lab, and come online to peddle disjointed stuffs, meddling into areas they have vague knowledge about, consolidating their ignorance by Google.

A hematologist should write a better piece, not this gibberish written to sway unsuspecting individuals.

Pls health workers immunize yourself, that my only advice again.[/s]

Your empty lamentations should not stop here. Write a lengthy protest letter to the Americans, Australian, Ghana, British and ask them to stop training Medical Scientists in microbiology and haematology and remove it from their curriculum.

Unfortunately even after your journey on mother earth the elite field of Medical Laboratory Science will keep progressing and evolving, your cries and lamentations regardless.

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Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by aribisala0(m): 1:51pm On Jun 27, 2018
eezeribe:
JOHESU giving us lecture on Hepatitis B...
very soon a court clerk will give us lecture on how to judge a case...
No matter how long a LIZARD stays at the bank of a river, it can never become a CROCODILE. ..
You ae a spiteful little rodent.

You need international exposure. It is clear you lack this terribly

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Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by lilyheaven: 2:00pm On Jun 27, 2018
grin tongue
Do you want to donate your liver?
TheLoser:
well done
Can this be detected through fBT tests
1. Is it really common in Nigeria, people with damaged livers many and if a person seriously wants to be a liver donor is it possible in Nigeria?
Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by asaretolulope(m): 2:20pm On Jun 27, 2018
People are quick to insult on this kind of thread because of the perceived hatred between Doctors and other allied health professionals. Which by my reasoning would not end soon.

This write up as much as it's educative is riddled with flaws.
Liver cirrhosis is not same as liver cancer

A medical lab scientist offering to offer treatment I feel is wrong. While not stick to prevention diagnosis, false positive, false negative. and refer to a doctor. (separation of powers and knowing litations)

Nothing like contraction in medicine it's called mode of transmission. Mother to child is the commonest route. And it might take years to manifest. Even till the child becomes an adult.
While some have it and remain asymptomatic for life.


It's the internet age, anybody can write anything. It's left for the reader to have discretion but sadly in our environment so many People are misled.

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Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by Timothy3113(m): 2:20pm On Jun 27, 2018
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Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by MrBigiman: 2:22pm On Jun 27, 2018
phase1:


Your empty lamentations should not stop here. Write a lengthy protest letter to the Americans, Australian, Ghana, British and ask them to stop training Medical Scientists in microbiology and haematology and remove it from their curriculum.

Unfortunately even after your journey on mother earth the elite field of Medical Laboratory Science will keep progressing and evolving your cries and lamentations regardless.

You are a town crier.
Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by phase1: 2:25pm On Jun 27, 2018
MrBigiman:


You are a town crier.

Look in the mirror, you'll see the real town crier and effusive lamenter. You know it, I know it. cheesy

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Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by queenfav(f): 2:26pm On Jun 27, 2018
Uglymugg:
you can't cure Hep B, it's a virus. You get it for life. You can only delay how much it destroys your liver by avoiding alcohol or anything that puts great strain on your liver. You can also treat it with Antiviral drugs, but it's just like HIV, it will only suppress but not cure.
That's for chronic hep b. Was educated on it when i took the vaccine. If it's not chronic hepatitis b, the body sheds it off after 6 months and the person becomes immune to having it again in future. Even d chronic hep b can be shed off provided d drugs are taken. D doctor said the drugs are about N20,000 for 30 tablets , so getting the vaccine is cheaper. General hospitals give the vaccine free.

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Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by phase1: 2:26pm On Jun 27, 2018
asaretolulope:
People are quick to insult on this kind of thread because of the perceived hatred between Doctors and other allied health professionals. Which by my reasoning would not end soon.

This write up as much as it's educative is riddled with flaws.
Liver cirrhosis is not same as liver cancer

A medical lab scientist offering to offer treatment I feel is wrong. While not stick to prevention diagnosis, false positive, false negative. and refer to a doctor. (separation of powers and knowing litations)

Nothing like contraction in medicine it's called mode of transmission. Mother to child is the commonest route. And it might take years to manifest. Even till the child becomes an adult.
While some have it and remain asymptomatic for life.


It's the internet age, anybody can write anything. It's left for the reader to have discretion but sadly in our environment so many People are misled.

Where did he offer treatment in the write-up. Are you dyslexic?

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Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by giles14(m): 2:35pm On Jun 27, 2018
Oseniade:
Good day fellow Naira landers and how is your day going? I am a Medical Laboratory Scientist by training. For the next few days I will delve into Hepatitis B prevention, treatment etc from a Medical Laboratory Scientist view. I will try as much as possible to use layman terms for `a larger audience appreciation` and I will be brief as much as possible. It will be sectioned into days for easier follow up. Thanks.

Day 1
Today I will talk about a little history, testing, contraction and vaccine.

History : Hepatitis B is caused by a virus, hence it is a viral infection. It affects majorly the liver and can cause the infected person to develop liver cirrhosis (cancer of the liver). The liver is a highly functioning organ that to a large extent tolerate a lot of abuse. The liver can get damaged to as much as 70% before the sufferer noticed that there is something wrong with his or her system. Hence the need to get tested as soon as possible

Testing: Whenever you visit a good medical Laboratory and you request for Hepatitis B testing, what they do is to test for the Surface Antigen which is abbreviated as HBsAg(Hepatitis B surface Antigen). If you are positive for Hepatitis B you are said to be HBsAg positive and if otherwise, you are said to be HBsAg Negative.

Contraction: You contract Hepatitis B ( shortened as Hep B) majorly from sex and exchange of infected body fluids (blood, breastmilk, semen etc) and also mother to child transmission (during the course of delivery there is usually exchange of bodily fluids in which infected mother can transmit the virus to her baby)

Prevention: The number 1 prevention is abstinence from sex. You can also take Hepatitis B vaccine which prevents you from ever contracting it. The vaccine are given in 3 dosages(3 shots) intramuscular on your arm at an intervals of like 8 weeks to about 6 months depending on what is in place at where it is being administered. After your last shot, you are given another shot in 10 years time and this is what is referred to as booster dose. You should note that if for any reason you are positive, Hep B vaccines will not work for you; hence you have to go for treatment.
The vaccine works by stimulating your body system to produce what is called `Hepatitis B surface Antibodiesʼ which act as the primary body defender if for any reason you come in contact with the virus.
Thanks.
great enlightenment.

pls do mosquito in any way transmit it.
do one contact HBV by sharing and eating together with an infected individual
Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by Amarabae(f): 3:05pm On Jun 27, 2018
Look at how these malaria and typhoid specialists want to mess up this thread grin grin
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OP you try, you have every right to talk about any health topic you want to talk about,.
You are a health professional.
.
In this your write up,
liver cirrhosis is not the same thing as liver cancer, rather liver cirrhosis increases a person's chance of getting a liver cancer..
Mode of transmission is what you should use,
Which one is contraction? grin
Just edit that part.

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Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by Freddonance(m): 3:08pm On Jun 27, 2018
asaretolulope:
People are quick to insult on this kind of thread because of the perceived hatred between Doctors and other allied health professionals. Which by my reasoning would not end soon.

This write up as much as it's educative is riddled with flaws.
Liver cirrhosis is not same as liver cancer

A medical lab scientist offering to offer treatment I feel is wrong. While not stick to prevention diagnosis, false positive, false negative. and refer to a doctor. (separation of powers and knowing litations)

Nothing like contraction in medicine it's called mode of transmission. Mother to child is the commonest route. And it might take years to manifest. Even till the child becomes an adult.
While some have it and remain asymptomatic for life.


It's the internet age, anybody can write anything. It's left for the reader to have discretion but sadly in our environment so many People are misled.

If u look at previous comments you will see where i posted same. But they almost killed me with abuses.
Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by imperiouxx(m): 3:15pm On Jun 27, 2018
Uglymugg:
Sorry to ask this but; if Hepatitis B can be transmitted so easily then why aren't a lot of people dying from this disease? It was only until 2017 that Hep B started getting this much awareness, right around the time a vaccine was found, could it be the company is trying to make money through scare-mongering? I mean, you can get it from kissing someone or having sex with them, that mean a very large number of peeps are living with Hep B yet we don't see death caused by Hep B or is it just the lack of Autopsy in Nigeria?

HepB is a common disease found everywhere. It's been in Nigeria for long and kills people silently. Awareness brings everything hidden to light. Like you said, lack of awareness is the major reason why many people are just hearing about it now. I don't think there is any concrete epidemiology record of other diseases that are not HIV and malaria in Nigeria, partly due to large % of Nigerians that don't use hospitals. Locals die every day from liver issues associated with HepB but not all are reported to disease control center for data collection.
Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by Amarabae(f): 3:15pm On Jun 27, 2018
Freddonance:


If u look at previous comments you will see where i posted same. But they almost killed me with abuses.
And why can't he talk about health issues?
A clinical lab scientist talking about hepatitis and you insecured bunch of expired medical practitioners are having issues with it!
Lord have mercy!

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Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by MrBigiman: 3:27pm On Jun 27, 2018
Amarabae:
Look at how these malaria and typhoid specialists want to mess up this thread grin grin
..
OP you try, you have every right to talk about any health topic you want to talk about,.
You are a health professional.
.
In this your write up,
liver cirrhosis is not the same thing as liver cancer, rather liver cirrhosis increases a person's chance of getting a liver cancer..
Mode of transmission is what you should use,
Which one is contraction? grin
Just edit that part.


Amara must be here. E clear.
Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by Freddonance(m): 3:34pm On Jun 27, 2018
Amarabae:

And why can't he talk about health issues?
A clinical lab scientist talking about hepatitis and you insecured bunch of expired medical practitioners are having issues with it!
Lord have mercy!
If you haven't faulted this post according to the level of knowledge you have i would have taken u serious but haven spotted an error, it means that those who have much knowledge in medical science see the post as not as informative as it should be cos it is flawed with falsities. & so, it is advised he gives advice only on what he can defend (in dis case, his post should be restricted to the topic, medical laboratory perspective of hepatitis b. Test specificity & so on.)
Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by Amarabae(f): 3:36pm On Jun 27, 2018
MrBigiman:


Amara must be here. E clear.
yes o.
Ur colleagues want to cause nuisance here
Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by RiyadhGoddess(f): 3:39pm On Jun 27, 2018
Op thank you for this thread. Last week my friend who was to come to Saudi discovered that she had this HepB. The result (HepB) is likely to disqualify her at the embassy. So she went to the hospital for treatment. She was given an injection and tablets to take. According to her, the doctor said that will cure it. Please I want to ask is it possible that since she has taken the injections and medicines, when she goes for another test, the HepB won't be seen? I mean will the test result show negative?
Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by monalicious(f): 3:50pm On Jun 27, 2018
eezeribe:
JOHESU giving us lecture on Hepatitis B...
very soon a court clerk will give us lecture on how to judge a case...
No matter how long a LIZARD stays at the bank of a river, it can never become a CROCODILE. ..

You are just a mega FOOL.

Proudly a Medical laboratory scientist

You can go and kill yourself if u like

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Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by MrBigiman: 3:53pm On Jun 27, 2018
Amarabae:
yes o.
Ur colleagues want to cause nuisance here

When did u become a Lab Scientist. Is it the job a scientist to Educate people about ailment? Even his choice of Language and his equating cirrhosis, as liver cancer, already shows how much of a Google maniac he is.

The other day a Chief lab scientist was running around saying a neonate has jaundice because the SB is 75umol/l, because the range on his book put total at 17umol/l. In a bid to look intelligent ran out to say the value is high. Whereas the value just amounted to 4.4mg/dl which didn't need photo. Trying to explain was more confusion to the semi-illitrate. I had to tell him to go back to his office and allow the Doctors do their own job, and he walked away thinking he was right.

A pharmacist sister had a positive HBSag, after visiting the Doctor he only wrote linvolin, and asked her to follow a particular management plan. The pharmacist went ahead to dispense antiviral without the hepatologist consent. It was during severe viral reaction, the patient presented, her condition was reexplained, and she used her own mouth to curse her sister, the pharmacist.

People should be content with their role and stick with it. I have several lab scientist oriented journals from UK, and other advanced countries, and they always maintain a Lab oriented scope.
Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by NoToPile: 3:59pm On Jun 27, 2018
@topic you people have brought this NMA/Johesu fight here again Nawa ooo.

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Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by Amarabae(f): 4:47pm On Jun 27, 2018
NoToPile:
@topic you people have brought this NMA/Johesu fight here again Nawa ooo.
i tire o.
What is wrong with a Medical laboratory scientist talking about hepatitis.
A very nice health extension teaching.
O Di Egwu o.
.

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Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by elonize(m): 5:21pm On Jun 27, 2018
Hepatitis b has no cure,to get vaccination it will cost a total of 1k,five hundred Naira for d first two injections, den d last injection is 5 h...I have taken mine last year
Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by ayusco85(m): 5:28pm On Jun 27, 2018
elonize:
Hepatitis b has no cure,to get vaccination it will cost a total of 1k,five hundred Naira for d first two injections, den d last injection is 5 h...I have taken mine last year

Who told u it has no cure?
Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by hidhrhis(m): 5:35pm On Jun 27, 2018
elonize:
Hepatitis b has no cure,to get vaccination it will cost a total of 1k,five hundred Naira for d first two injections, den d last injection is 5 h...I have taken mine last year
where can I take d injection bro
Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by aribisala0(m): 5:43pm On Jun 27, 2018
MrBigiman:


When did u become a Lab Scientist. Is it the job a scientist to Educate people about ailment? Even his choice of Language and his equating cirrhosis, as liver cancer, already shows how much of a Google maniac he is.

The other day a Chief lab scientist was running around saying a neonate has jaundice because the SB is 75umol/l, because the range on his book put total at 17umol/l. In a bid to look intelligent ran out to say the value is high. Whereas the value just amounted to 4.4mg/dl which didn't need photo. Trying to explain was more confusion to the semi-illitrate. I had to tell him to go back to his office and allow the Doctors do their own job, and he walked away thinking he was right.

A pharmacist sister had a positive HBSag, after visiting the Doctor he only wrote linvolin, and asked her to follow a particular management plan. The pharmacist went ahead to dispense antiviral without the hepatologist consent. It was during severe viral reaction, the patient presented, her condition was reexplained, and she used her own mouth to curse her sister, the pharmacist.

People should be content with their role and stick with it. I have several lab scientist oriented journals from UK, and other advanced countries, and they always maintain a Lab oriented scope.
Honestly this is unnecessary.Why put people down?


There are so many cowboys out there with Nigerian MBBSs who are no worse than butchers.


It is not having or not having MBBS that mkes a person knowledgeable but continuous study and updating.

Anyone with A level science can read up and understand cirrhosis /cancer and the science .Mind you most of the research that constitutes the knowledge base in medcine is not done by doctors but by specialist scientists whether they be viroligists pharmacologists etc.

This " local" attitude of Nigeria doctors is embarrassing.

You folk need exposure


You give an example of a bad Phamarcist

for every one there are dozens of doctors in th US or UK undergoing fitness to practice hearing.


Your anecdote proves nothing about pharmacists but proves you cannot reason logically or scientifically without bias

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Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by asaretolulope(m): 6:01pm On Jun 27, 2018
phase1:


Where did he offer treatment in the write-up. Are you dyslexic?

Mr or Mrs phase 1.
It's obvious what group you belong to.
Can't you have a discussion without resulting to insults and abuses.
Read up his write up again without bias.
It's a great thing to be Civil.

It says in the next few days. I would enlighten you about hepatitis B. Where he mention history, diagnosis, contraction and treatment.
He didn't mention it in this post, cos he limited it.
But in coming days he intend to write about it

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Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by MrBigiman: 6:02pm On Jun 27, 2018
aribisala0:

Honestly this is unnecessary.Why put people down?


There are so many cowboys out there with Nigerian MBBSs who are no worse than butchers.


It is not having or not having MBBS that mkes a person knowledgeable but continuous study and updating.

Anyone with A level science can read up and understand cirrhosis /cancer and the science .Mind you most of the research that constitutes the knowledge base in medcine is not done by doctors but by specialist scientists whether they be viroligists pharmacologists etc.

This " local" attitude of Nigeria doctors is embarrassing.

You folk need exposure


You give an example of a bad Phamarcist

for every one there are dozens of doctors in th US or UK undergoing fitness to practice hearing.


Your anecdote proves nothing about pharmacists but proves you cannot reason logically or scientifically without bias

Don't come here and mutter gibberish. Anyone can read up anything, but anyone cannot be a specialist. I have reffered aged men today to urologists, and they were thankful. 1 was for bladder CA.

Guess what's? pharmacist had milked those dudes dry before presenting to our facility. One with passage of clots, but the pharmacist kept loading him with antifibrinolytics. Just a history of bloody hematuria, without concomitant rise in BP clinched the diagnosis. If u say I shouldn't educate people of these then u are an enemy.

There are terrible Doctors, pharmacist, lawyers etc. Yet Doctors don't go parading as lawyers, pharmacists and nurses. There must be something wrong, as u walk into pharmacies and they consult and are called Doctors, and they can't even call the client to order that they aren't.

If asking people to remain within their scope is unprofessional to u, then u need ur orientation and education rechecked.
Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by asaretolulope(m): 6:06pm On Jun 27, 2018
phase1:


Where did he offer treatment in the write-up. Are you dyslexic?

Mr or Mrs phase 1.
It's obvious what group you belong to.
Can't you have a discussion without resulting to insults and abuses.
Read up his write up again without bias.

It's a great thing to be Civil.

It says in the next few days. I would enlighten you about hepatitis B. Where he mention history, diagnosis, contraction and treatment.
He didn't mention it in this post, cos he limited it.
But in coming days he intend to write about it

Go back up and read without bias

I clicked on the thread to learn more.
But just tried to correct his flaws.
But all you can do is rain abuses.
If the information he passed is a bit wrong we should just take it hook line and sinker because a medical laboratory wrote it
Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by aribisala0(m): 6:09pm On Jun 27, 2018
MrBigiman:


Don't come here and mutter gibberish. Anyone can read up anything, but anyone cannot be a specialist. I have reffered aged men today to urologists, and they were thankful. 1 was for bladder CA.

Guess what's? pharmacist had milked those dudes dry before presenting to our facility. One with passage of clots, but the pharmacist kept loading him with antifibrinolytics. Just a history of bloody hematuria, without concomitant rise in BP clinched the diagnosis. If u say I shouldn't educate people of these then u are an enemy.

There are terrible Doctors, pharmacist, lawyers etc. Yet Doctors don't go parading as lawyers, pharmacists and nurses. There must be something wrong, as u walk into pharmacies and they consult and are called Doctors, and they can't even call the client to order that they aren't.

If asking people to remain within their scope is unprofessional to u, then u need ur orientation and education rechecked.

There are many problems in the world real and imagined.

Who is parading as a doctor on this thread falsely.?

The subject matter here is Hepatitis B .

I know for a fact that over 99% of doctors do not know what the virus looks like ,hell how many doctors in Nigeria have seen and electron microscope.

So because the person who started the thread is not a doctor you must put them down? That says more aout you than anything else

Your biography is of no interest to me apart from revealing your immaturity and lack of exposure.


You need to get out of Nigeria and see how healthcare delivery works in advaanced societies

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Re: Hepatitis B; From A Medical Laboratory Scientist Perspective by phase1: 6:14pm On Jun 27, 2018
asaretolulope:


Mr or Mrs phase 1.
It's obvious what group you belong to.
Can't you have a discussion without resulting to insults and abuses.
Read up his write up again without bias.
It's a great thing to be Civil.

It says in the next few days. I would enlighten you about hepatitis B. Where he mention history, diagnosis, contraction and treatment.
He didn't mention it in this post, cos he limited it.
But in coming days he intend to write about it


And which do you belong to? The national mor0ns association (NMA) or a student member I guess.

Why are you preempting him if you are not biased. A medical Scientist is trained primarily in disease investigation and you can not be a medical investigator if you are not grounded in mode of transmission, history, epidemiology, pathogenesis of the disease in question. You are talking to an M.Sc Scientist and I have lectured even your senior colleagues in CPDs, CMEs, conferences and seminars.

Go take a sit.

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