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TrumpedL:
Muslims already agreed on below thread that Islam is a religion that promotes slavery
https://www.nairaland.com/4019163/islam-21st-century-slavery#59925706

redsun:
Can you really believe that the first call to prayer in Islam was made by a free abbysian slave,like a priest? I think the religion was originally set up to create a level leverage for all and free up the inherently ignorant.

Lukuluku69:
Muslims already agreed? Wonderful? Please don't make yourself ridiculous. This is neither here nor there. The fact that some "Muslims" don't know a bit of history and what their Faith says about Slavery, does it mean their view represents that of Islam?

redsun:
Obviously,based on history, if for it true,the prophet was a savvy forwarded thinking man that only fought if he had to. Shaku on the other hand is just a mentally distorted, suffering,brainwashed and zombified African, like millions of the followers the the movement today

They need another true liberation message that will free them from their eternal bondage,christians included. It is amazing how history repeats itself,while the people of the present stupendously remain oblivious.

TrumpedL:
If you know me you won't use the taqiyya narrative of "show me where it is in the Qur'an".

The Islamic prophet who happens to be your role model was a chronic slave driver.


Islamic Prophet Mohammed owned slaves.

The Qur’an has Allah telling Muhammad that he has given him girls as sex slaves: “Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives to whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty.” (Qur’an 33:50)

The Islamic prophet, Muhammad bought slaves:
“Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported: There came a slave and pledged allegiance to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man).” (Muslim 3901)

From the above; you realized your prophet, apart from engaging in slave trade, was also a racist. He equated 2 black slaves to 1 slave.

Muhammad took female Infidel captives as slaves:
“Narrated Anas: The Prophet offered the Fajr Prayer near Khaibar when it was still dark and then said, ‘Allahu-Akbar! Khaibar is destroyed, for whenever we approach a (hostile) nation (to fight), then evil will be the morning for those who have been warned.’ Then the inhabitants of Khaibar came out running on the roads. The Prophet had their warriors killed, their offspring and woman taken as captives. Safiya was amongst the captives. She first came in the share of Dahya Alkali but later on she belonged to the Prophet. The Prophet made her manumission as her ‘Mahr.’” (Bukhari 5.59.512) Mahr is bride price: Muhammad freed her and married her. But he didn’t do this to all his slaves:

Muhammad owned slaves: “Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah’s Apostle was on a journey and he had a black slave called Anjasha, and he was driving the camels (very fast, and there were women riding on those camels). Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Waihaka (May Allah be merciful to you), O Anjasha! Drive slowly (the camels) with the glass vessels (women)!’” (Bukhari 8.73.182) There is no mention of Muhammad’s freeing Anjasha.

TrumpedL:
“Narrated Anas: The Prophet offered the Fajr Prayer near Khaibar when it was still dark and then said, ‘Allahu-Akbar! Khaibar is destroyed, for whenever we approach a (hostile) nation (to fight), then evil will be the morning for those who have been warned.’ Then the inhabitants of Khaibar came out running on the roads. The Prophet had their warriors killed, their offspring and woman taken as captives. Safiya was amongst the captives. She first came in the share of Dahya Alkali but later on she belonged to the Prophet. The Prophet made her manumission as her ‘Mahr.’” (Bukhari 5.59.512)

In the above, replace "The prophet" with "shekau". Replace "Khaibar" with "North-east". Replace "Safiya" with "Chibok girls"

Any similarities now between shekau and the Islamic prophet?

Lukuluku69:
If you know your Book of Authority, you be among The Prophet followers. Read >>>>Psalm 45:1-17 KJV
[1] My heart is inditing a good matter: I speak of the things which I have made touching the king: my tongue is the pen of a ready writer.
[2] Thou art fairer than the children of men: grace is poured into thy lips: therefore God hath blessed thee for ever.
[3] Gird thy sword upon thy thigh, O most mighty, with thy glory and thy majesty.
[4] And in thy majesty ride prosperously because of truth and meekness and righteousness; and thy right hand shall teach thee terrible things.
[5] Thine arrows are sharp in the heart of the king's enemies; whereby the people fall under thee.
[6] Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.
[7] Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. [8] All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad.
[9] Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir.
[10] Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house;
[11] So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Lord; and worship thou him.
[12] And the daughter of Tyre shall be there with a gift; even the rich among the people shall intreat thy favour.
[13] The king's daughter is all glorious within: her clothing is of wrought gold.
[14] She shall be brought unto the king in raiment of needlework: the virgins her companions that follow her shall be brought unto thee.
[15] With gladness and rejoicing shall they be brought: they shall enter into the king's palace.
[16] Instead of thy fathers shall be thy children, whom thou mayest make princes in all the earth.
[17] I will make thy name to be remembered in all generations: therefore shall the people praise thee for ever and ever.

^^^^ is the prophecy of Kind David concerning Khaibar. Verse 10 is simply telling Saffiya to forget her people, the reprobate coins and her father's house and follow the King who has his Sword girded on his loins.

TrumpedL:
Isn't it obvious from the thread that Islam and slavery are like 5 and 6? Go and make your point on that thread if you can cook up contrary opinion

Lukuluku69:
Anytime anyone give you facts you Christians can't refute, you guys will shout "Taqiyya". You guys conveniently forget that "Apostle" Paul pioneered lying to further Jehovah cause as it was recorded in the Bible Romans 3:7 KJV
[7] For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?

You claimed Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) was a slave owner and never freed any? Well, please tell me what Jesus Daddy did with the Portion He got from His share of War Captives in Numbers 31:31-42 KJV
[31] And Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the Lord commanded Moses.
[32] And the booty, being the rest of the prey which the men of war had caught, was six hundred thousand and seventy thousand and five thousand sheep,
[33] And threescore and twelve thousand beeves,
[34] And threescore and one thousand asses,
[35] And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of women that had not known man by lying with him.
[36] And the half, which was the portion of them that went out to war, was in number three hundred thousand and seven and thirty thousand and five hundred sheep:
[37] And the Lord's tribute of the sheep was six hundred and threescore and fifteen.
[38] And the beeves were thirty and six thousand; of which the Lord's tribute was threescore and twelve.
[39] And the asses were thirty thousand and five hundred; of which the Lord's tribute was threescore and one.
[40] And the persons were sixteen thousand; of which the Lord's tribute was thirty and two persons.
[41] And Moses gave the tribute, which was the Lord's heave offering, unto Eleazar the priest, as the Lord commanded Moses.
[42] And of the children of Israel's half, which Moses divided from the men that warred,

So, what is Yahweh/Jehovah doing with Virgin girls?

If you know your Bible very well, you will find many references in it where, Yahweh Chosen kids were told to take Captives, slaughter the married ones and keep the Virgins for themselves. Why have you not trouble your brain as to the reason why Yahweh gave such commands but you can find fault with any other people who did the same by the command of their "own" God?

TrumpedL:
one bad thing about your likes is that you're always trying to link bible passages to your slave driver prophet.

Sane people will know that the Psalm you quoted is about a royal wife leaving her people to live with her husband.

TrumpedL:
Non of the people you mentioned are my role models.

Jesus is my role model; the same JESUS who proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound (Isaiah 61:1).

Whereas your role model, the Islamic prophet was a slave driver

Lukuluku69:
One bad thing about you lots is that you don't know your Bible and if this is pointed out to you, you start your name giving/calling.

TrumpedL:
Non of the people you mentioned are my role models.

Jesus is my role model; the same JESUS who proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound (Isaiah 61:1).

Whereas your role model, the Islamic prophet was a slave driver

Lukuluku69:
Well I say ALL of them are my Role Model. From Buddha, Zarathustra, Abraham, Moses, David et al till Muhammad( May peace be upon them all). Jesus is your role Model your role model you say? Well, he did not have all the Truth! That's why he prayed for another comforter to guide you into all the Truth! Please tell me, this ALL the Truth, where can I find it among the over 30,000 denomination in Christendom?

Lukuluku69:
So King David, a man after God's Heart is not your role model? Abraham, God's friend is not a role model to you? Like I said, the best of Christian only know their Bible at most 26%. You claim Jesus is your model but he never brought a complete message!

TrumpedL:
I almost missed the bible passage you quoted about Paul. Romans 3:7. I'll post it here so that people will realize how deceitful you are

Have the Jews then any advantage over the Gentiles? Or is there any value in being circumcised? Much, indeed, in every way! In the first place, God trusted his message to the Jews. But what if some of them were not faithful? Does this mean that God will not be faithful? Certainly not! God must be true, even though every human being is a liar. As the scripture says, “You must be shown to be right when you speak; you must win your case when you are being tried.” But what if our doing wrong serves to show up more clearly God's doing right? Can we say that God does wrong when he punishes us? (This would be the natural question to ask.) By no means! If God is not just, how can he judge the world? But what if my untruth serves God's glory by making his truth stand out more clearly? Why should I still be condemned as a sinner? Why not say, then, “Let us do evil so that good may come”? Some people, indeed, have insulted me by accusing me of saying this very thing! They will be condemned, as they should be.
Romans 3:1-8 GNB

Tell me where Paul told a lie here?

TrumpedL:
Jesus is the AUTHOR and PERFECTER of my FAITH. Hope you can understand simple English?

Lukuluku69:
Bros, like Paul don't play on words with me! Paul is a confirmed LIAR! Like I said, you lots know little of the Book you carry around. What does "untruth" means? If not lies! That translation you quoted only softened the LIE blow for those who will take offense with the word "lie". And to let you know that Paul is a Liar, when he is at Mercy of the Pharisee, he is a Sadducees, when at the Mercy of the Jews, he is a Jew and when he want favors of Romans, he is a Roman. What man does that?

TrumpedL:
We all know the Islamic prophet slave driver is your role model.

As for me and other Christians, Jesus is our role model! The Holy Spirit who is the comforter has been with us Christians since the day of Pentecost.

TrumpedL:
It's obvious your comprehension skill is low; no, I don't think you lack comprehension skill as you're only displaying what the Islamic prophet taught you- the master deceiver!

Paul pointed out in the passage that Jews can't do evil in the name of bringing glory to God and expect God not to judge them.

Lukuluku69:
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^^^^Another lie like Paul!


Luke 4:1 KJV
[1] And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,

Luke 1:41 KJV
[41] And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

Luke 1:67 KJV
[67] And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,

Luke 2:25 KJV
[25] And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him.

Luke 3:22 KJV
[22] And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

John 20:21-23 KJV
[21] Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. [22] And when he had said this, he breathed on them , and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: [23] Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

So, ALL the above Ghostly business took place on the Pentecost? I know you guys are programmed to lie unto God's Glory but be humble enough to admit it when you lies are busted with the cold hard facts of your own book.

TrumpedL:
Am not surprised at your analysis because you're a master deceiver just like your Islamic prophet slave driver taught you.

The Holy Spirit has been before the creation of the world. Gen. 1:2; Job 33:4
Before the day of Pentecost, the Holy Spirit fills people only when God wants to use the person to fulfill a particular mandate in the case of old testament people like Samson, Enoch, Moses, David, and lots more.
The spirit leaves them when such mandates are fulfilled. This is in contrast to the present dispensation since the day of Pentecost when the Holy Spirit has been with Christians forever.
Give your life completely to Christ today and experience the in-filling of the Holy Spirit. Until then, bye

TrumpedL:
Christians brought slavery to an end in America and other parts of the world whereas your religion Islam promotes slavery up to this moment and you're here talking

GodSon34:
I’m not A Muslim. I used to be a Christian but now Love is my religion. My point is all religions are flawed

GodSon34:
I’m not A Muslim. I used to be a Christian but now Love is my religion. My point is all religions are flawed

TrumpedL:
There's no love without God

GodSon34:
Indeed I believe in a deity called El. I do not believe in Jesus or God. There are many gods being worshipped in this world. El is the true deity of the ancient Hebrews i.e. El Elyon (Most High) or El Shaddai (Almighty). If my people (Israel) who are called by my name, El.

TrumpedL:
It is impossible to know El in this dispensation without Jesus

GodSon34:
There is no historical proof of Jesus ever existing. Indeed the Most High promised a ‘son of man’ or Christ or Messiah or ‘annoited one’. This is the seed of woman that will crush the head of the serpent. This promised prince of peace will come through the ancient order of Melchizedek. It is Melchizedek that came to earth and ruled as King of Peace and King of Righteousness. This is who Jesus replaced. Jesus claimed to be the Son of God, the Son of Man and God himself. Jesus is indeed the son of Perdition who opposeth and exalted himself above all that is called El (God)and sitteth in the temple of El (God). Temple is the body/mind of man. Jesus is the man of sin whom Christians cannot see.