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Maestro21:
A Christian is not in bondage. Which overturns your whole theory.

You just said my mind. Remain blessed bro. Enilove

Maestro22 you are graced and blessed with the truth. I leave the ring for you. Weldone!

PROPHETmichael:
YOU LIED! In a true deliverance ministry, you hear an undiluted word of God in it raw form not sugarcoated and that's why the devil will inspire people like you to speak against it in-order to put God's people in perpetual bondage.
REAL CHRISTANITY IS AGGRESSIVE! It
laughs at sickness, shouts at disease,
pimpslaps demons, lambasts the heathen,
dropkicks death and moonwalks in the
presence of the devil! That's because real
Christianity is a documentary about the dominion of the sons and daughters of deity!
"For the kingdom of God is not a matter of
talk but of power." 1Cor 4:20
IN DELIVERANCE MINISTRY, YOU NEVER
BREAK A SWEAT! YOU SIMPLY ENFORCE
SATAN'S DEFEAT through the power of
spoken words!
"FULL OF FAITH AND POWER, DID GREAT
WONDERS AND MIRACLES among the
people" (Acts 6 :8 )! If the church you go to
doesn't have any of these, my brother you are a Jehovah witness without knowing.

firstly, define a 'true deliverance ministry'? And if the word of God is preached undilutedly in such place, then why the need for head pushing and the likes?
I kinda agree with the rest of what u said...

enilove:
What do you mean a christian is not under bondage?

Why do Christians fall sick and die of the sickness even after prayers? After all , the bible says in :
Isaiah 53:5 KJV
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

A sick non christian should be made whole immediately after becoming a christian , but this is not the case most of the times, why?

Why are we having broken christian marriages? Is it not a sign of bondage for a Christian marriage to break? Why should the devil have dominion over a christian home when our saviour says we should not divorce?

Why are Pastors sleeping with church members ? Why so much sins in the lives of many Christians ?
Are they not under the bondage of sin?
Don't we have fraudulent Christians , is that not a bondage?

Why do many or some Christians find it hard to leave masturbation?

THERE ARE SO MUCH POLUTIONS WHICH MAKE IT HARD FOR MANY CHRISTIANS TO AVOID SIN AND ATTACKS OF THE DEVILS. UNLESS WE PRAY WITHOUT CEASING WITH OCCASIONAL FASTING , IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE NOT TO FALL INTO ONE BONDAGE OR THE OTHER.

When someone was a sinner and occasionally did something right did it mean they had become "free" at that point?

When you preach to sinners do all of them accept the message at the same time?

If your answer to both questions is no, then why do you flip the script and claim that a Christian falling sick is in bonds?

Listen, ignorance, lack of faith and disobedience for Gods word are the reasons christians fall sick, divorce or commit any of the acts you mentioned. It is not bondage as the bible already declares every Christian bond free.

And that is why we preach deliverance to them by telling them they are free of sin and its consequences. They are free to live right for God. But you are the one telling them they have secret sins in their life and putting them back in ignorance. That is why you constantly have to keep "delivering" them. Because you have taught them that they are still in bondage.

Just turn on the light and darkness will be dispelled!

Dan1cole:
firstly, define a 'true deliverance ministry'? And if the word of God is preached undilutedly in such place, then why the need for head pushing and the likes?
I kinda agree with the rest of what u said...

I used the word TRUE deliverance ministry because i know of a fact that many have bastardized deliverance ministry and in as much as there are genuine ones, there are also fake ones."Head pushing" is common among the fake ones or someone who is new in deliverance ministry for the bible says "He sent forth his word and healed them; he rescued them from the grave." Psalm 107:20..He didn't push them but he sent forth His WORD. Mind you the WORD there is not preaching but prophetic word. The Word brings light into dark situation while the prophetic word acting upon faith brings deliverance.

So what then is a true deliverance ministry? it is written, "Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give. (Mt. 10:8 )!
Jesus didn't say feel sorry for the sick, dead, leprosy and demons. He said "Heal the sick! raise the dead! heal the lepers and cast out demons" So, therefore, a true deliverance ministry have compassion on the sick by stretching forth their hands and heal them!All without collecting a dime for freely they received and freely, they must give out.

Now how do you know if you are called into deliverance ministry? If each time you see sick people etc and you have this holy anger in you, compassion on them, know for a fact you are called into deliverance ministry.

Peace my brother

Maestro21:
When someone was a sinner and occasionally did something right did it mean they had become "free" at that point?

When you preach to sinners do all of them accept the message at the same time?

If your answer to both questions is no, then why do you flip the script and claim that a Christian falling sick is in bonds?

Listen, ignorance, lack of faith and disobedience for Gods word are the reasons christians fall sick, divorce or commit any of the acts you mentioned. It is not bondage as the bible already declares every Christian bond free.

And that is why we preach deliverance to them by telling them they are free of sin and its consequences. They are free to live right for God. But you are the one telling them they have secret sins in their life and putting them back in ignorance. That is why you constantly have to keep "delivering" them. Because you have taught them that they are still in bondage.

Just turn on the light and darkness will be dispelled!

I want to ask you this simple question.

What is the meaning of this verse below :

Matthew 17:21 KJV
Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

enilove:
I want to ask you this simple question.

What is the meaning of this verse below :

Matthew 17:21 KJV
Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

Or maybe Maestro21 knows better than Jesus who called deliverance "children's bread" when an unbeliever came to him for help. He simply said to the woman, deliverance is not for unbelievers but for believers.

matthew 25:21-28
22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”
26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

Maestro21 pls sir shed more light on the above scripture.
bloodofthelamb you asked if a believer can be captive....you can also shed more light on it.

bloodofthelamb:
Tosinex, enilove do you even know who a believer is? Let's begin from here.

You've shifted the topic from Deliverance ministry to Believers being in bondage. Knowledge is Power they say, A Believer that doesn't have the truth and the light of the Word will find himself/herself in Bondage because such person will be ignorant of what the Word is capable of.... Tell me how many acclaimed believers have time these days to dwell on the Word and ask for deeper Revelations from the Holy Spirit. Apostle Paul, even after walking with God year in year out, still says "that I may know him, and the Power of His resurrection and the fellowship of his suffering being made comformable unto his death.. .Philipians 3:10." don't forget Jesus rebuke His Apostle for not having enough faith, and faith cometh by hearing and hearing (reading) the Word of God. (they were ignorant of how to cast out that devil and Jesus says they need faith howbeit this can ONLY come out through fasting and prayer, note that!) that's that for that.

Now when we go out to deliver, we conduct deliverance for those that are being possessed and we minister healing to the sick. A member of a church came to one of my revered MOG and said he should pray for her, and the man looked at her and said she need to confess, she was shocked and she said she has something that was given to her like a powder and whenever she applied it to her face and look at a man and the man looks at her, she will definitely get down with that man (this is an acclaimed Believer, or member of a church), you need to get off your phone pad and experience real life practical of this situations. And Get this right, Not everybody out there is a Christian, and not everybody that comes to church is a Believer, and even those that are called Believers some of them engage in secret sins that open them up to the devil(the accuser, the enemy) and he that breaks the edge shall the what....? You can complete that yourself, thanks.

Tosinex:
You've shifted the topic from Deliverance ministry to Believers being in bondage. Knowledge is Power they say, A Believer that doesn't have the truth and the light of the Word will find himself/herself in Bondage because such person will be ignorant of what the Word is capable of.... Tell me how many acclaimed believers have time these days to dwell on the Word and ask for deeper Revelations from the Holy Spirit. Apostle Paul, even after walking with God year in year out, still says "that I may know him, and the Power of His resurrection and the fellowship of his suffering being made comformable unto his death.. .Philipians 3:10." don't forget Jesus rebuke His Apostle for not having enough faith, and faith cometh by hearing and hearing (reading) the Word of God. (they were ignorant of how to cast out that devil and Jesus says they need faith howbeit this can ONLY come out through fasting and prayer, note that!) that's that for that.

Now when we go out to deliver, we conduct deliverance for those that are being possessed and we minister healing to the sick. A member of a church came to one of my revered MOG and said he should pray for her, and the man looked at her and said she need to confess, she was shocked and she said she has something that was given to her like a powder and whenever she applied it to her face and look at a man and the man looks at her, she will definitely get down with that man (this is an acclaimed Believer, or member of a church), you need to experience real life practical of this situations. And Get this right, Not everybody out there is a Christian, and not everybody that comes to church is a Believer, and even those that are called Believers some of them engage in secret sins that open them up to the devil(the accuser, the enemy) and he that breaks the edge shall the what....? You can complete that yourself, thanks.

Awesome!!!

Tosinex, a person who is sick need to know that by His stripes he/she has been healed. Do not compound the person problem by telling him/her to under go 21days dry fasting and other carnal stuff.

Hosea 4:6 "People are destroyed and afflicted for lack of knowledge of the finished work of Christ."

bloodofthelamb:
Tosinex, a person who is sick need to know that by His stripes he/she has been healed. Do not compound the person problem by telling him/her to under go 21days dry fasting and other carnal stuff.

Hosea 4:6 "People are destroyed and afflicted for lack of knowledge of the finished work of Christ."

what of a person who is bedridden.... I presume you think healing is about headaches and malaria lolzzz.... Kindly swerve!

Tosinex:
what of a person who is bedridden.... I presume you think healing is about headaches and malaria lolzzz.... Kindly swerve!

The late Kenneth Hagin was bedridden but got healed through believing and not through some carnal stuff most deliverance minister make those who are ignorant of Christ finished work go through in the name of deliverance..

Go read about him and learn.

bloodofthelamb:
The late Kenneth Hagin was bedridden but got healed through believing and not through some carnal stuff most deliverance minister make those who are ignorant of Christ finished work go through in the name of deliverance..

Go read about him and learn.

matthew 25:21-28
22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”
26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

Jesus called deliverance "children's bread" and that it is for believers and not unbelievers. Can you explain it?

bloodofthelamb:
The late Kenneth Hagin was bedridden but got healed through believing and not through some carnal stuff most deliverance minister make those who are ignorant of Christ finished work go through in the name of deliverance..

Go read about him and learn.

Born with a deformed heart, Kenneth was paralyzed and bedridden at the age of 15. On the very first night he became bedfast, completely beyond all medical help, he died and went to hell three times. Each time he approached the entrance to hell, a voice spoke and he returned to his body. On that night—April 22, 1933— Kenneth E. Hagin was born again.*
In that same year, Kenneth began a determined study of God’s Word. And though everyone around him told him to prepare for death, he got a revelation of Mark 11:23–24 and faith for healing was quickened in his young heart. On August 8, 1934, God raised Kenneth off the bed of sickness—completely healed and whole!


I knew of him...let me tell you something you never know, you can't experience an OBE, encounter God, and any part of your dead body remain desame, they comes alive! that's mystery for you, come and learn.

PROPHETmichael:
I used the word TRUE deliverance ministry because i know of a fact that many have bastardized deliverance ministry and in as much as there are genuine ones, there are also fake ones."Head pushing" is common among the fake ones or someone who is new in deliverance ministry for the bible says "He sent forth his word and healed them; he rescued them from the grave." Psalm 107:20..He didn't push them but he sent forth His WORD. Mind you the WORD there is not preaching but prophetic word. The Word brings light into dark situation while the prophetic word acting upon faith brings deliverance.

So what then is a true deliverance ministry? it is written, "Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give. (Mt. 10:8 )!
Jesus didn't say feel sorry for the sick, dead, leprosy and demons. He said "Heal the sick! raise the dead! heal the lepers and cast out demons" So, therefore, a true deliverance ministry have compassion on the sick by stretching forth their hands and heal them! All without collecting a dime for freely they received and freely, they must give out.

Now how do you know if you are called into deliverance ministry? If each time you see sick people etc and you have this holy anger in you, compassion on them, know for a fact you are called into deliverance ministry.

Peace my brother

Healing is not deliverance.

The charge to heal the sick was given to all Christians. Not once did Jesus refer to it as deliverance. You deliver unbelievers by preaching the word to them. The rest of your point is unnecessary because nobody is against healing the sick. At least not me.

enilove:
I want to ask you this simple question.

What is the meaning of this verse below :

Matthew 17:21 KJV
Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

Always compare stories to get the full gist. There is the Mark 9 account and this one above. The disciples tried and the demon did not leave. They went to Jesus in private to ask him why. Matthew says, he said BECAUSE you had no faith. To leave that out is disingenuous. Then, he goes on to add that the demon could have only left by prayer. Mark 9 corroborates that aspect.

Why is this necessary? Because we cannot separate the faith he said they did not have and the prayer he said was necessary to get the demon out. Jesus was essentially teaching about the prayer of faith. We can tell because the disciples asked him why the demon did not leave when they spoke but left when he spoke. If Jesus had used different words they would have surmised that that was the reason his worked and not theirs but he did not. Jesus said the same things with them. The difference was, Jesus made the prayer of faith whilst the disciples were trying to conduct deliverance ceremonies. You can read up on James 5:13-15 to see the significance of that prayer of faith.

And the prayer of faith is usually said ONCE. You are acting faith not chanting incantations.

Like I said, you cannot ignore the full teaching of faith Jesus did after telling them they had no faith and zero in on (prayer and fasting). I fast and I pray so I am not against that. But it was faith + prayer that Jesus advocated for and faith is how the human spirit responds to Gods word. That is why we TEACH people God's word so their faith will rise and they will know they are delivered.

PROPHETmichael:
Or maybe Maestro21 knows better than Jesus who called deliverance "children's bread" when an unbeliever came to him for help. He simply said to the woman, deliverance is not for unbelievers but for believers.

matthew 25:21-28
22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”
26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

Maestro21 pls sir shed more light on the above scripture.
bloodofthelamb you asked if a believer can be captive....you can also shed more light on it.

Healing is not "deliverance". And no, nobody was a Christian or no Christian as Jesus had not died and resurrected. The Jews were Gods people and the gentiles were not. So by right, the woman who was a gentile should have not asked for healing since she did not believe in what the Jews believed in. That is what Jesus was saying. Her argument then was, after you have helped the jews there will still be something left for outsiders and Jesus praised what she did as " faith".

This is an unwelcome distraction because I said the CHRISTIAN is not in bondage. Only ignorant ones are trapped. I did not say the JEWS or GENTILES are not in bondage. There is a difference. Come on!

Tosinex:
You've shifted the topic from Deliverance ministry to Believers being in bondage. Knowledge is Power they say, A Believer that doesn't have the truth and the light of the Word will find himself/herself in Bondage because such person will be ignorant of what the Word is capable of.... Tell me how many acclaimed believers have time these days to dwell on the Word and ask for deeper Revelations from the Holy Spirit. Apostle Paul, even after walking with God year in year out, still says "that I may know him, and the Power of His resurrection and the fellowship of his suffering being made comformable unto his death.. .Philipians 3:10." don't forget Jesus rebuke His Apostle for not having enough faith, and faith cometh by hearing and hearing (reading) the Word of God. (they were ignorant of how to cast out that devil and Jesus says they need faith howbeit this can ONLY come out through fasting and prayer, note that!) that's that for that.

Now when we go out to deliver, we conduct deliverance for those that are being possessed and we minister healing to the sick. A member of a church came to one of my revered MOG and said he should pray for her, and the man looked at her and said she need to confess, she was shocked and she said she has something that was given to her like a powder and whenever she applied it to her face and look at a man and the man looks at her, she will definitely get down with that man (this is an acclaimed Believer, or member of a church), you need to get off your phone pad and experience real life practical of this situations. And Get this right, Not everybody out there is a Christian, and not everybody that comes to church is a Believer, and even those that are called Believers some of them engage in secret sins that open them up to the devil(the accuser, the enemy) and he that breaks the edge shall the what....? You can complete that yourself, thanks.

This is drivel for the most part because you cannot pinpoint where you were told to deliver people. If someone was sick before they became born anew and you tell them about christ and his salvation and they accept it and you go on to pray for them to be healed and they get healed, at what point did you deliver them?

The difference between you and me is, I tell people their present-hour reality in christ and encourage them to stand upright. I tell the sick, Jesus makes you well just like Peter did and get them to stand up from that sickness. You on the other hand, tell them that secret sins can bring them down, that some of them are saved but still in bonds. The result? You "cast out" demons from them and in a few months they are back on those prayer lines asking for more "deliverance" from secret sins. Then people who should have graduated to secondary school will still be in Nursery, still learning and relearning how to read and write.

Maestro21:
Healing is not deliverance.

The charge to heal the sick was given to all Christians. Not once did Jesus refer to it as deliverance. You deliver unbelievers by preaching the word to them. The rest of your point is unnecessary because nobody is against healing the sick. At least not me.

I don't remember saying healing is deliverance instead i quoted Jesus who said heal the sick, raised the dead, CAST OUT DEMONS...
Is casting out demons not deliverance? The woman's daughter was demon possessed which requires deliverance and Jesus called it "children's bread"

enilove:
Tell us who a believer is .

A believer is someone who has been delivered( Past tense) by God from the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of His dear Son where the Devil cannot reach.

A believer is a new creation, created in the incorruptible image and nature of God.

A believer is from above and is above all as Christ his Head and Vine is also from above..

A believer is seated where Christ is seated at the right hand of the Father. If a believer can be demonised, that is having demon in him. It will only mean that CHRIST JESUS his head can also be demonised.

Maestro21:
This is drivel for the most part because you cannot pinpoint where you were told to deliver people. If someone was sick before they became born anew and you tell them about christ and his salvation and they accept it and you go on to pray for them to be healed and they get healed, at what point did you deliver them?

The difference between you and me is, I tell people their present-hour reality in christ and encourage them to stand upright. I tell the sick, Jesus makes you well just like Peter did and get them to stand up from that sickness. You on the other hand, tell them that secret sins can bring them down, that some of them are saved but still in bonds. The result? You "cast out" demons from them and in a few months they are back on those prayer lines asking for more "deliverance" from secret sins. Then people who should have graduated to secondary school will still be in Nursery, still learning and relearning how to read and write.

All these blabbings of yours won't help.. Normally I don't do these, especially when someone I'm dialoguing with is not versed. There's nothing wrong with making people know what the Word can do for them and they applying it, but I'm sure you've not experienced real life situations of these things, All you do is to sit in your church listen to what your pastor is teaching you, shout, and jump here and there. And get these facts right in Acts 3, Peter didn't preach to the guy, he didn't say accept Jesus now and be healed, he ministered healing to him (silver and gold I have not, but what I have I give to you in the name of Jesus, Arise!!) and puuff! He was delivered from being crippled, his legs and bones received strength, Peter did that by the Power of the Spirit in the name of Jesus.

Now, a dead man was brought into the church and the man of God prayed and he was raised from the dead and alive, tell me with which ear did he use to hear his present hour reality in Christ and encouraged to stand upright....
A G-boy (if you know what that means) ran mad and was seen on the streets and a man of God accosted him on the way, pray for him and he was delivered from the spirit of madness and made whole, now tell me with which ear did he use to hear his present hour reality before he was delivered... You need to go and learn more.
And lest I forget didn't Jesus tell people to sin no more after healing them lest a worst thing come on them, go and read this scripture and receive understanding John 5:14, John 8:11, Matt 12:43-45.

Dan1cole:
nobody said you should goto such places ...

The heading says so. The writer is preventing people from attending deliverance ministry.

Tosinex:
Get this! Every deliverance is Word based because the Deliverer is the Word and The Word didn't just heal them, the Word exposes them to the truth, and they took the rightful steps to be healed, Ye shall know the truth and the truth will set you free John 8:32. The truth exposes every hidden thing in darkness in the life of a man and brings it to light. Moreso, Jesus gave powers to his disciples and say to them cast out demons, heal the sick, (that is deliverance) and so was it because the disciples came back rejoicing Luke 9:1-6,10:17.

Modified
Yes

Tosinex2:
All these blabbings of yours won't help.. Normally I don't do these, especially when someone I'm dialoguing with is not versed. There's nothing wrong with making people know what the Word can do for them and they applying it, but I'm sure you've not experienced real life situations of these things, All you do is to sit in your church listen to what your pastor is teaching you, shout, and jump here and there. And get these facts right in Acts 3, Peter didn't preach to the guy, he didn't say accept Jesus now and be healed, he ministered healing to him (silver and gold I have not, but what I have I give to you in the name of Jesus, Arise!!) and puuff! He was delivered from being crippled, his legs and bones received strength, Peter did that by the Power of the Spirit in the name of Jesus.

Now, a dead man was brought into the church and the man of God prayed and he was raised from the dead and alive, tell me with which ear did he use to hear his present hour reality in Christ and encouraged to stand upright....
A G-boy (if you know what that means) ran mad and was seen on the streets and a man of God accosted him on the way, pray for him and he was delivered from the spirit of madness and made whole, now tell me with which ear did he use to hear his present hour reality before he was delivered... You need to go and learn more.
And lest I forget didn't Jesus tell people to sin no more after healing them lest a worst thing come on them, go and read this scripture and receive understanding John 5:14, John 8:11, Matt 12:43-45.

Actually you are the one who is churning out words totally off tangent from the central crux. And to think that you actually think you are well versed is laughable. The man in Acts 3 was not a Christian you do realize? I have to put it out there because a lot of you just talk jammily. The man who was Christian that I referred to was Aeneas. You should read up on him a little as you might learn a lot.

Then I don't understand your jumbo on a dead man being raised back to life. Peter, Paul did raise dead CHRISTIANS back to life. What is the correlation with your drivel? You may extend this deep teaching you are feigning to know and relate with the Gboy story as I am 100% convinced no G-boy can be Christian.

That is the problem with people who think the Nursery school they attend should even be used to teach university students forgetting that some people left Nursery a long time ago. So Jesus telling someone how to keep their healing is the service on secret sins ignorant folks yap about? Tell me more.

PROPHETmichael:
I don't remember saying healing is deliverance instead i quoted Jesus who said heal the sick, raised the dead, CAST OUT DEMONS...
Is casting out demons not deliverance? The woman's daughter was demon possessed which requires deliverance and Jesus called it "children's bread"

Casting out demons is not deliverance. You don't get it do you?

LOL.

And I am not against casting out demons, I just said it is not " deliverance". The deliverance is to be PREACHED. You show people by the word where they stand in christ. That is genuine deliverance. You can cast out demons from someone who has them and without the genuine deliverance they will be back there again.

asuustrike2009:
The heading says so. The writer is preventing people from attending deliverance ministry.

He is telling people that casting out demons is not "deliverance" and that there is no such ministry called that.

I know a Muslim who went to church one day and a demon was cast out of her. Few years later and I stumbled unto her facebook profile...she is Muslim back again. That is a result of "deliverance" ministries.

Notice the terms I am using are not perfection or not doing anything right..but Muslim.

Maestro21:
He is telling people that casting out demons is not "deliverance" and that there is no such ministry called that.

I know a Muslim who went to church one day and a demon was cast out of her. Few years later and I stumbled unto her facebook profile...she is Muslim back again. That is a result of "deliverance" ministries.

Notice the terms I am using are not perfection or not doing anything right..but Muslim.

Are you saying that there is no need for deliverance.?
Who told you there are no deliverance ministry?

asuustrike2009:
Are you saying that there is no need for deliverance.?
Who told you there are no deliverance ministry?

The bible said there is no "deliverance" ministry.

There is need for people to know that they have been delivered. You teach..preach...tell them they have been delivered. You do not cast out demons or heal the sick for deliverance. Deliverance is what christ has achieved..your duty is to preach it to them.

Maestro21:
The bible said there is no "deliverance" ministry.

There is need for people to know that they have been delivered. You teach..preach...tell them they have been delivered. You do not cast out demons or heal the sick for deliverance. Deliverance is what christ has achieved..your duty is to preach it to them.

That is not true. Study these verses of the scriptures; Psalm 50:15,Psalm 107:19,

Maestro21:
Actually you are the one who is churning out words totally off tangent from the central crux. And to think that you actually think you are well versed is laughable. The man in Acts 3 was not a Christian you do realize? I have to put it out there because a lot of you just talk jammily. The man who was Christian that I referred to was Aeneas. You should read up on him a little as you might learn a lot.

Then I don't understand your jumbo on a dead man being raised back to life. Peter, Paul did raise dead CHRISTIANS back to life. What is the correlation with your drivel? You may extend this deep teaching you are feigning to know and relate with the Gboy story as I am 100% convinced no G-boy can be Christian.

That is the problem with people who think the Nursery school they attend should even be used to teach university students forgetting that some people left Nursery a long time ago. So Jesus telling someone how to keep their healing is the service on secret sins ignorant folks yap about? Tell me more.

The man Jesus ministered to in John 5:14 and healed was not a Christian and after Jesus met with him and he received him and received his healing, and was proclaiming in the temple, what did he become? And what did Jesus told him? How many of the G-boys in your church have you turned into a true Believer? How do I expect you to understand the raising of the dead, You won't understand the correlation because you don't know the Power of God.

Tosinex2:
The man Jesus ministered to in John 5:14 and healed was not a Christian and after Jesus met with him and he received him and received his healing, and was proclaiming in the temple, what did he become? And what did Jesus told him? How many of the G-boys in your church have you turned into a true Believer? How do I expect you to understand the raising of the dead, You won't understand the correlation because you don't know the power of God.

I walk in the power of God. Let me not say more than that.

And NOBODY could become a Christian until christ died.