selemempe:
south east shouldnt be for only those 'who want to be called igbos'.

There are ijaws in sw too. And many tribes in nw

When someone deny you, dont force yourself on that person, just move on.

Anioma should be the one meeting the SE, not the vice versal as you are doing it.

There are Igala in Anambra and they happy in been in Anambra.

EternalTruths:



The problem with guys like you is that you take nonentities very serious.

Who is Oliseh to determine for other others if they are Igbos or not.


That is why I like Nnamdi Kanu. He never took fools like Oliseh serious.


Well, there is no need to waste my time arguing with you guys.


We the real liberators know that Aniomas are Igbos.

i tire for odingo1 and some of these new comers to this thread. Anioma has more ppl who say they are igbos than those who deny it.

And that is the reason why joining the south east will be best for all man

Odingo1:

When someone deny you, dont force yourself on that person, just move on.

Anioma should be the one meeting the SE, not the vice versal as you are doing it.

anioma is meeting the south east

Odingo1:

When someone deny you, dont force yourself on that person, just move on.

Anioma should be the one meeting the SE, not the vice versal as you are doing it.

Why do you take the words of few fools as binding on the Anioma people.?


When are we going to be smart enough to ignore nonentities parading themselves as leaders of Aniomas.?

EternalTruths:



The problem with guys like you is that you take nonentities very serious.

Who is Oliseh to determine for other others if they are Igbos or not.


That is why I like Nnamdi Kanu. He never took fools like Oliseh serious.


Well, there is no need to waste my time arguing with you guys.


We the real liberators know that Aniomas are Igbos.

You lots want to repeat Ojukwu mistakes.

Ojukwu had loyal friends in Eastern minorities parts, people like Opigo, Akpan, Effiong, Kogbara, etc. He worked with, but he ignored the presence of Igbophobic entities in Minority areas, the likes of Wiwa, Boro and co.
In the end, those were the ones that wrecked Biafra.

It's foolishness to ignore the likes of Oliseh, Esogbue, Onochie, Mgbejume, etc.

In the end, they would wreck you, if you don't acknowledge their existence, the threat they pose, and devise contingency plans to contain them.

selemempe:
i tire for odingo1 and some of these new comers to this thread. Anioma has more ppl who say they are igbos than those who deny it.

And that is the reason why joining the south east will be best for all man

During the civil war, they fought on the side of Biafra.

Under Ohaneze, they serve as leaders


Yet some people believe that one idiot can wake up one morning and severe the bond between brothers.

Odingo1:

When someone deny you, dont force yourself on that person, just move on.

Anioma should be the one meeting the SE, not the vice versal as you are doing it.

There are Igala in Anambra and they happy in been in Anambra.

On your last sentence, exactly.

Klinee is an Igala from Anambra, he is proudly Anambra.
Notice also that he too is pissed off by the attitude of Anioma folks towards Ndiigbo.

That speaks volumes.

selemempe:
anioma is meeting the south east

If they are meeting the SE good for them.

I saying my own based on my reality on ground.

If they join the SE nobody care about their identity or whether they want to be called this or that.

pazienza:


You lots want to repeat Ojukwu mistakes.

Ojukwu had loyal friends in Eastern minorities parts, people like Opigo, Akpan, Effiong, Kogbara, etc. He worked with, but he ignored the presence of Igbophobic entities in Minority areas, the likes of Wiwa, Boro and co.
In the end, those were the ones that wrecked Biafra.

It's foolishness to ignore the likes of Oliseh, Esogbue, Onochie, Mgbejume, etc.

In the end, they would wreck you, if you don't acknowledge their existence, the threat they pose, and devise contingency plans to contain them.

They did not wreck Biafra.


What wrecked Biafra was lack of weapons to win the war.


If we had weapons, all the so called betrayal won't be talked about today.

pazienza:


You lots want to repeat Ojukwu mistakes.

Ojukwu had loyal friends in Eastern minorities parts, people like Opigo, Akpan, Effiong, Kogbara, etc. He worked with, but he ignored the presence of Igbophobic entities in Minority areas, the likes of Wiwa, Boro and co.
In the end, those were the ones that wrecked Biafra.

It's foolishness to ignore the likes of Oliseh, Esogbue, Onochie, Mgbejume, etc.

In the end, they would wreck you, if you don't acknowledge their existence, the threat they pose, and devise contingency plans to contain them.

Take note

What stopped Biafra was not the traitors but lack of weapons.


I speak as a descendant of those whose family served as Biafran Scientists, Engineers and Soldiers.

Ogoja. Pls are they igbos. The people i knw that are igbos are. Isobo in akwaibom. Or are they in ogoja local government

selemempe:
unlike ogoja...anioma has a large group of igbos who say they are igbos.

Can u point one in ogoja

Lol!
Speaking from both sides of the mouth Now, aren't we?

You were insinuating that Anioma ethnic nationality or affiliation does not matter.

In which case the number of people who identify as Igbo or non Igbo amongst shouldn't matter , which means that Ogoja Igbo or non Igbo people shouldn't matter too.

pazienza:


Lol!
Speaking from both sides of the mouth Now, aren't we?

You were insinuating that Anioma ethnic nationality or affiliation does not matter.

In which case the number of people who identify as Igbo or non Igbo amongst shouldn't matter , which means that Ogoja Igbo or non Igbo people shouldn't matter too.

ogoja is not being discussed here bro. Open a thread for that one

pazienza:


I noticed you have been talking down on Ebonyi .
I think you are wrong about Ebonyi. Ebonyi is very much viable, and had been outperforming Abia State in recent past, in terms of infrastructural development.

Ebonyi is coming up but will never outperform Abia despite the bad governance in the state. Abia can sustain itself even without handouts from Abuja. Abians are highly industrious and educationally advanced than Ebonyi. Abia is close to the sea and can decide to build a seaport to generate much revenue and lastly the state is endowed with large markets, industries and huge oil and gas deposits that can sustain them for centuries. Ebonyi will surely get there but not at the expense of Abia.

pazienza:


On your last sentence, exactly.

Klinee is an Igala from Anambra, he is proudly Anambra.
Notice also that he too is pissed off by the attitude of Anioma folks towards Ndiigbo.

That speaks volumes.

Some of Anioma youth are so brain washed by Nigeria media, one of my friend Emeka from Delta state use to tell me that he has no relation with SE that he only speak Igbo like me but he is not Igbo. One of my girlfriend also.

Igbos only care about justice and equal opportunity not necessary spoken language.

selemempe:
i tire for odingo1 and some of these new comers to this thread. Anioma has more ppl who say they are igbos than those who deny it.

And that is the reason why joining the south east will be best for all man

On paper true, but on reality false. Ika-Ukwuani are Igbophobic, only Aniocha-Oshimili are Iphophilic. Now compare the statistics and you will observe it’s 5/10. Meaning half of percentage of totality of Anioma’s are likely Igbophobic. Even amongst the Aniocha/Oshimili you still find people that are easily swayed by numerous sibling factors into denying the Igbo tag.

Chiwude:
On paper true, but on reality false. Ika-Ukwuani are Igbophobic, only Aniocha-Oshimili are Iphophilic. Now compare the statistics and you will observe it’s 5/10. Meaning half of percentage of totality of Anioma’s are likely Igbophobic. Even amongst the Aniocha/Oshimili you still find people that are easily swayed into denying the Igbo tag.

50% Igbo is more than enough.

If we dont include these folks now...we lose them forever. Wat do u think will happen 100 yrs from now?
I think 2 things can happen.
1. If anioma is in south east..more and more of them will gradually keep accepting their igboness.
2. If anioma is not in south east more and more of them will keep denying their igboness.

Play a unifying role bro

Odingo1:


Some of Anioma youth are so brain washed by Nigeria media, one of my friend Emeka from Delta state use to tell me that he has no relation with SE that he only speak Igbo like me but he is not Igbo. One of my girlfriend also.

Igbos only care about justice and equal opportunity not necessary spoken language.

Anioma are Edo, they have always been part of Benin Kingdom, even the governor of Edo-state is anioma. You guys should stop ignorantly claiming people's heads.

Anioma is a subset of the Edo nation. Delta state is a subset of Benin Kingdom. Enough said, go and look for some land to grab elsewhere.

Odingo1:


The North and SW will not support restructuring, it is dead on arrival.

Adada can be created and they develop at their own pace like Ebonyi. Looking down on a fellow Igbo state is not good, everywhere in SE should not be measured with others with time they will come up.

I’m not looking down on any state, most especially Ebonyi. The state is doing well at it’s own pace and can do better in future. But I’m talking about the south-east submitting a viable proposition for a 6th state that won’t be thrown to the bin at the least excuse. Don’t forget, getting a state under civilian rule is likened to a Carmel passing through the eye of a needle. The south east can succeed in having a 6th state if we play the politics right. Even without restructuring we can do the lobbying and still get it. But we shouldn’t go with a parasitic state in mind that may instill distrust in the mind of our opponents.

pazienza:
The Anioma people are peaceful, hardworking and accommodating. Besides Delta State, Anioma people can also be found in Igbanke, Ogan, Iru, Owa Nikeke, Ekpon and Abudu areas of Edo State, Onitsha, Obosi, Ogidi, Ozubulu and Orifite areas of Anambra State, Oguta area of Imo State and Ndoni area of Rivers State. The Anioma people are educated, industrious, innovative and exposed. The rich diverse and unique cultural heritage of the Anioma people distinguished them from other ethnic nationalities in Nigeria.

The second question: Are Anioma people Igbos?
There have been several debates about the true origin of the Anioma people and the language they speak. There is a strong belief that the Anioma people are Igbos and that they speak Igbo language. To keep the record straight, the Anioma people are not Igbos and they do not speak Igbo language. The Anioma people speak, "Enuani, Ika and Ukwuani languages".

We are proud of our identity; our identity is our pride, strength and unifying factor. Our Anioma attire (Akwa Anioma) is recognized anywhere in the world. There may be similarities in some Anioma and Igbo names: such as Chukwuma, Chukwuka, Chukwudi, Ngozi, Udoka, among other names that have the same spellings, pronunciations and meanings like that of the Igbos but, the fact remains that we are not Igbos. We may also have some similarities in language that does not make us Igbo people.
The Aniocha and Oshimili though are closer to the Anambra people cannot be referred to as Igbo people. The same could be said of Owa people in Ika North East Local Government whose ancestral home is believed to be Nri, in Anambra State. The Ndokwa and Ukwuani areas are a mix of different peoples, some with a strong claim to Benin ancestry while others claim to different origin. The Abohs and some clans in the region claimed to have left Benin in the 16th century or earlier in the same wave of migration that established most of the Igbo speaking towns West of the Niger and even Onitcha in the East. Some sections of the Abohs believed that they are direct descendants of people from Benin while others look across the Niger into the Igbo hinterland as their origin, yet some even look far up the Niger, Igala as their ancestral home.

Ogidi has nothing to do with Anioma. It's only yesterday I saw that nonsense here. For your information, I am from Ogidi and can tell you that none of us is aware of this claim which I find disrespectful.
Oraifite has absolutely nothing to do with Anioma, Ozubulu - yes, Oraifite - hell no!
Only a tiny quarter in one clan of Obosi has connection with Anioma, they are even a later arrival that were added to Obosi. Obosi is proudly Idemili.

Seriously, I find this very insulting.
What is wrong with those Igbo deniers? Are they claiming my hometown too? Tifiakwa!

selemempe:
50% Igbo is more than enough.

If we dont include these folks now...we lose them forever. Wat do u think will happen 100 yrs from now?
I think 2 things can happen.
1. If anioma is in south east..more and more of them will gradually keep accepting their igboness.
2. If anioma is not in south east more and more of them will keep denying their igboness.

Play a unifying role bro

Anioma joining the south-east is beneficial for all parties involved. But we mustn’t be rushed into making hasty concessions. They can’t get a state without us, because their neighbors won’t allow such. For us, we can always get a state without them. We see them as brothers but we won’t allow emotions becloud our judgement. And the truth is that many of the so-called brothers instill certain hate towards us and won’t mind renegading on our support if we help them get a state. So the best bet for all parties is the legal backed agreement, signed and sealed by all stakeholders involved. If they don’t agree to our terms then they remain where they are. We lose nothing and we gain nothing. Igbo identity is not for sale, it’s a thing of pride and honour and should be worn by only those who understands what it takes to be Igbo.

Ozubulu who. They are proudly igbos. This aniomas ave a way of reversing their history... Some okpanam people came from oba. Lots of them. Some of our people migrated over to delta state. They claim we colonized them. How did they end up speaking a dialect of igbo language which other igbos don't speak. The bini ave been claiming lag for long and there are signs that they once lived there. Check some yoruba monarch dressing. U will see that it has deep edo influence but they are yoruba.

Let them continue denying themselves. Xpecially ika

The coup in question was committed to by kaduna nzeogwu who is from delta state. Ifeajuna delta state. Nonsense it should ave been written bini coup

pazienza:


The Ikelike people were absorbed and acculturated into the great Nri culture by AdaIgbo and his Nri people.

Ogwashi ukwu is of Nri today, as can be seen from the language and culture.

Ogwashiukwu = Ogwa + Nshi +Ukwu

Ogwa = Dwelling
Nshi = Nri
Ukwu = Great.

Ogwashiukwu = The dwelling place of the great Nri (AdaIgbo).

By the way, as a Yoruba, I wonder your stake in this thread, isn't it about time you took your leave?

Meeee, take my leave ke?
Una done buy market with this topic.

Any talk about Anioma, Delta State, SS, we must represent our people in Ugbodu. We must fight for them.
Itsekiri can fight for itself, but we must also be alert to make sure they are not wronged in Niger Delta.

ghostfacekillar:
The coup in question was committed to by kaduna nzeogwu who is from delta state. Ifeajuna delta state. Nonsense it should ave been written bini coup

Do you know why its called Igbo coup?

You think because they spoke Igbo. Noooo! We already know they are not Igbo by origin.

Its called Igbo coup because only Igbo leaders were exempted from assassination.

Yinmu!

ghostfacekillar:
Ozubulu who. They are proudly igbos. This aniomas ave a way of reversing their history... Some okpanam people came from oba. Lots of them. Some of our people migrated over to delta state. They claim we colonized them. How did they end up speaking a dialect of igbo language which other igbos don't speak. The bini ave been claiming lag for long and there are signs that they once lived there. Check some yoruba monarch dressing. U will see that it has deep edo influence but they are yoruba.

Do not derail this topic.

BabaRamota1980:


Do you know why its called Igbo coup?

You think because they spoke Igbo. Noooo! We already know they are not Igbo by origin.

Its called Igbo coup because only Igbo leaders were exempted from assassination.

Yinmu!

baba u are a fool. Get off my mention

pazienza:


When was the last time you heard of Ijaws in Edo coming to tell us why they are not Ijaw, or the Ijaws in SW, despite Now very mixed with Yorubas, with many of them speaking Yoruba and going by Yoruba names, coming out to tell us they are now too mixed to be just Ijaw?

The Anioma people are amphoteric with their Igbo identity, therefore we can't deal with them without duely signed land published legal agreement.
We simply can't trust them any longer, they had eroded the trust of kinship we thought we had with them, via their words and actions. It's that bad.

Anioma Have Identified With LargeR Igbo Family As In ohanaeze Leadership Why Did They Not Deny Him ralph uwechwe Was Ohanaeze President Guy When Last Did We Have The Ijaw From South West Or Edo Stake Thier MembershIP Of Ijaw Youth Council. Or pandef, Or elders Council For Me Thats A More Technical Denial Of Ijaw. They Have Never Identified Or Were Identified With Anything Ijaw They Ar norminaL

BabaRamota1980:


Do you know why its called Igbo coup?

You think because they spoke Igbo. Noooo! We already know they are not Igbo by origin.

Its called Igbo coup because only Igbo leaders were exempted from assassination.

Yinmu!

See Useless Talk So Igbo Sent Non Igbo To Execute A Coup For Them ? The Last I Checked nigeria Had 250 Languages Are You Saying 249 From Each Languages Were Killed In The Coup And Only Igbo Spared? Oya Tell Us Why Its Not An Anioma Coup Cos All Anioma People Were Spared Too. How Many yoruba Were Killed. How Many Bini Were Killed. Apart From Hausa And Fula What Other Tribe In The North Was Killed?

selemempe:
anioma is meeting the south east

One Time Ohanaeze President Was From Anioma