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bloodofthelamb:
No.

Man got the nature through disobedience.

Man would have been mindless, without a will of his own.

The beauty of mankind is that we have a will and we must conciously unite our will to God's will. This Adam the first seed of mankind did not do and he brought death to his seeds after him.

1.is it impossible for god to create man with the inability to get a sinful nature without restricting freewill?

2.mindlessness would have saved millions from hell.

3. the whole idea just feels like god created a problem so that he would solve it. that's just redundant and needless.
for instance god could have decided not to create Lucifer and nobody would have rebelled/tempted Adam and Eve.

Gggg102:
1.is it impossible for god to create man with the inability to get a sinful nature without restricting freewill?

2.mindlessness would have saved millions from hell.

3. the whole idea just feels like god created a problem so that he would solve it. that's just redundant and needless.
for instance god could have decided not to create Lucifer and nobody would have rebelled/tempted Adam and Eve.

1: God is love, he made man in love. Man has a choice either to love him back by trust/faith or reject him by distrust.

2: No one have have to end up in hell. The choice is ours to make.

3: God created Lucifer perfect as He also created Micheal and all the loyal angels but Lucifer choosed the path of rebellion and destruction. He( Lucifer ) was like a honey who forgot that it sweetness came from a bee.

bloodofthelamb:
1: God is love, he made man in love. Man has a choice either to love him back by trust/faith or reject him by distrust.

2: No one have have to end up in hell. The choice is ours to make.

3: God created Lucifer perfect as He also created Micheal and all the loyal angels but Lucifer choosed the path of rebellion and destruction. He( Lucifer ) was like a honey who forgot that it sweetness came from a bee.

1. doesn't feel like an answer to my question. can god make man in such a way that it would be impossible to corrupt?

2. and people will make the wrong choice. majority of whom would be no fault of theirs. many would make the wrong choice due to circumstances they couldn't control. e. g those who never heard the gospel, those who were brought up in a different religion and are indoctrinated completely. they would see no other religion as true except the one they were brought up in.
many who are the different religions and are lost as to which is right so remain in the sidelines. many who are sincerely wrong.
it would have been better for god could create man as robots.

3. if god created Lucifer perfect and Lucifer was corrupted was he really perfect? if a design is perfect how is it corruptible?
would this not mean that after perfection of man at the end of the world man can still rebel in heaven again?

2&3. why does god still create those whom he knew since before their creation would reject him and become evil? e.g Lucifer and men who reject god. they would be better off not created than being created and ending up in hell.

jiggaz:
Thanks dear... And God bless you for this your contribution. I like it.

Now

I see grace

Christ Jesus

You can't do it yourself. Keep on sinning but be at the place where it will be taken away from you and one day you will realize it's no longer there.

Gggg102:
1. doesn't feel like an answer to my question. can god make man in such a way that it would be impossible to corrupt?

2. and people will make the wrong choice. majority of whom would be no fault of theirs. many would make the wrong choice due to circumstances they couldn't control. e. g those who never heard the gospel, those who were brought up in a different religion and are indoctrinated completely. they would see no other religion as true except the one they were brought up in.
many who are the different religions and are lost as to which is right so remain in the sidelines. many who are sincerely wrong.
it would have been better for god could create man as robots.

3. if god created Lucifer perfect and Lucifer was corrupted was he really perfect? if a design is perfect how is it corruptible?
would this not mean that after perfection of man at the end of the world man can still rebel in heaven again?

2&3. why does god still create those whom he knew since before their creation would reject him and become evil? e.g Lucifer and men who reject god. they would be better off not created than being created and ending up in hell.

Beloved brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, We can really start by seeing more scripture and giving further explanation to this brother. His questions have touched Foreknowledge, Predestination,God's ultimate will as well as judgement. We must be readily available to answer just as 1 Peter 3:15 KJV
But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
I will deal with the first question but I expect our responses as well. 2 Timothy 4:5 KJV
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry. I need to change over to the computer.

This posts up here.... Really blessed and uplifted my soul, thank you my brothers in the faith. I shall love to share this using my email if you my Heavenly brothers w poo ukd help send them to me, my co brethren in the faith would be needing this. Bro jiggaz, jennyinspires ,Blood of the lamb. May the heavens guide you all. My mail reads (gidjah@yahoo.com)

PRAY that you do not fall into diverse temptations.

gidjah:
This posts up here.... Really blessed and uplifted my soul, thank you my brothers in the faith. I shall love to share this using my email if you my Heavenly brothers w poo ukd help send them to me, my co brethren in the faith would be needing this. Bro jiggaz, jennyinspires ,Blood of the lamb. May the heavens guide you all. My mail reads (gidjah@yahoo.com)

Amen... Thanks bro.. I will send it you.

Very simple,
Ask God to make u poorer,
the poorer you are ,the closer you get to righteousnes

jiggaz:
Amen... Thanks bro.. I will send it you.

alright sir, would appreciate

gidjah:
alright sir, would appreciate

I just forwarded it to you now. Check your email.

bloodofthelamb:
Bro Jiggaz, imagine making a law for dogs to stop barking, when you already know that is their nature to bark. Will it work? Don,t you think the law giver is out of his mind for making such a law? Because, the dog has not the ability to obey it.

This is the picture of a sinner. God didn't give us the law to obey because He knows we won't. The law was given that we may realise that we are trangressors in need of a saviour.

Well said. Repentance through Jesus brings the power and grace to change /resurrect.

jiggaz:
The more you try by your own effort at obeying the law in order to curb sin, the more sin will multiply. We see why in Romans 6:14— “For sin shall not have dominion over you for you are not under law but under Grace.”
The more you try to obey the law (stop sinning) by human effort, the stronger the grip of sin, but this is taught in reverse in many places of worship.

In a way, I see this verse - Romans 6:14 - play out in my kids’ lives during every school holiday. No PS4 on school nights (law) and they act like I’m cutting off their limbs. It's all they want to do. If I wasn’t there to restrict them from playing, that's all they would do all day. The holidays arrive and they can play for as long as they like without the threat of punishment or consequences (grace.) There's a playing frenzy for the first few days of this grace period. The frenzy fizzles out and then, somehow, they don't go near their game consoles for days on end.

Many who are struggling with sins and addictions go to church looking for salvation but get burdened with more laws to keep and things to do by human effort, based on the knowledge of good and evil. They are told in church that doing these things will make them godly (be like God.) Same strategy Satan used with Eve when he deceived her into eating of the tree of the same name - the knowledge of good and evil. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is a picture of the law that many are trying to keep in order to become godly (be like God). See this in Paul's typology - the law as the forbidden fruit - in Romans 7:8-12 (MSG) -

"The law code started out as an excellent piece of work. What happened, though, was that sin found a way to pervert the command into a temptation, making a piece of “forbidden fruit” out of it. The law code, instead of being used to guide me, was used to seduce me.Without all the paraphernalia of the law code, sin looked pretty dull and lifeless, and I went along without paying much attention to it. But once sin got its hands on the law code and decked itself out in all that finery, I was fooled, and fell for it. The very command that was supposed to guide me into life was cleverly used to trip me up, throwing me headlong.

Satan is still seducing people through his ministers behind many pulpits today by deceiving many into thinking that they can be godly by human effort at keeping the law and doing certain things that involve human effort. It seemed good to Eve, as it seems good to many in the church today. But the end is death. The letter kills. We can do nothing without Christ, least of all be godly, but these "men of God" deny God's power in making the sinner who believes righteous through Christ. The result of feeding on the law is still the same as it was in the time of Adam and Eve - Death. Sin has dominion.

Just like my kids who lost interest in their PS4 game when they had grace to play without threat of punishment, "Without all the paraphernalia of the law code, sin looked pretty dull and lifeless, and I went along without paying much attention to it."
Remove condemnation and sin will lose its grip over the sinner. In Christ, there is no condemnation for the believer. Romans 8:1 says:

“Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.”

Think about this verse. Why would God tell you that there is no condemnation for you who are in Christ if you have not sinned? This gift of no condemnation is for people that have sins and believe that Christ paid the price for their sins. Also notice that Romans 8:1 begins with “Therefore.” It is the outcome of something in chapter 7:

21 “I have discovered this principle of life—that when I want to do what is right, I inevitably do what is wrong. 22 I love God’s law with all my heart. 23 But there is another power within me that is at war with my mind. This power makes me a slave to the sin that is still within me. 24 Oh, what a miserable person I am! Who will free me from this life that is dominated by sin and death?
25 Thank God! The answer is in Jesus Christ our Lord. So you see how it is: In my mind I really want to obey God’s law, but because of my sinful nature I am a slave to sin.” End of Romans 7. Chapter 8 opens with:
“Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.”

It is Christ's “Neither do I condemn you” that makes us “go and sin no more.” Christ saves from sins. My video game analogy does not even compare to how we are saved from our sins by Christ of whom it is written in Matthew 1:21-
“She will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.”

Many people are worried about the issue of sins and living a life of moral excellence. This is the beauty of being in Christ. The Holy Spirit transforms us from within so much that what is on the outside cannot but align with what is inside.
Understand what makes a person a sinner; we see this in Romans 5:19—
“By one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man's obedience many will be made righteous.”

Committing acts of sin is not what makes a person a sinner. People are made sinners by Adam's disobedience. Likewise, we are made righteous by Christ's obedience and not our puny efforts at obeying the law. The one with the sinful nature does not believe that he has been made righteous by Christ's obedience. He is not a newcreation in Christ. He has the sin (old) nature. He is trying to stop sinning/obey the law by his own power in order to be godly (be like God.)

This sinful nature inherited from Adam, when activated by the law that many are trying so hard to obey in a bid to be godly, is what causes sin to flourish. See Romans 7:5–
“When we were controlled by our old nature, sinful desires were at work within us, and the law aroused these evil desires that produced a harvest of sinful deeds, resulting in death.”

The law that many try to keep in a bid to be godly causes them to sin more. Christ died to rid us of this sinful nature that was inherited from Adam. See Colossians 2:13-

"When you came to Christ, you were "circumcised," but not by a physical procedure. Christ performed a spiritual circumcision--the cutting away of your sinful nature."

This is what happens when the sinner rests in God's gift of righteousness to us in Christ and is no longer trying to obey the law in order to be godly:

“So, my dear brothers and sisters, this is the point: You died to the power of the law when you died with Christ. And now you are united with the One who was raised from the dead. As a result, we can produce a harvest of good deeds for God.”

Imagine a maggot-infested pot (the sinner without God's gift of righteousness through Christ) with a dead rat in it (sinful nature inherited from Adam), with maggots breeding inside and crawling all over the outside of the pot (sin manifested), attracting flies and all sorts (lack, sickness, disease, etc.)

What our Saviour Jesus did for all who believe is get rid of the dead rat- cut away the sinful nature according to Colossians 2 above and gave us His gift of righteousness. He continuously washes and fills us to overflowing with the water of the Word (of faith, not the law), all through no effort of ours but through His Spirit that dwells in us.

In place of the dead rat aka sin nature that can only produce maggots of acts of sin that attract flies of lack, sickness and death, we have His gift of Righteousness and constant supply of the Spirit that produces right-living according to God's will and attracts not flies but health, prosperity and abundant life.

Once the heart is believing right, your actions and behaviour will line up with the Spirit within. The maggots outside the pot (sin manifested) will vanish in His time, with none crawling out to replace them because the inside is pure and alive, not stagnant!
All these things shall be ADDED unto you. Not only will you Live Right by "accident" and not continue in sin with Christ as your righteousness, you will do exploits and be a blessing to others too. Your salvation will be evident for all to see, "For it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure." - Philippians 2:13.

ALL OF THESE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR PUNY EFFORTS AT TRYING TO LIVE RIGHT. CHRIST DOES IT ALL SO WE ARE UNABLE TO BOAST ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO STOP SINNING OR DEMAND THAT OTHERS DO SO BY THEIR OWN MIGHT AND POWER.

Many sinners want to stop sinning but what to do when you get tempted beyond what you can bear? No matter how much you tempt me to eat watermelon, I will not, unless you threaten me with harm But some people love watermelon. We all have different areas of weakness. Christ saves from all.

We look at some people and think they just want to wallow in fornication and adultery. Their weakness is not our weakness so we don't understand or know how hard they are struggling inside, trying hard to be obedient but failing. The reason they are failing is in Romans 6:14- "For sin shall not have dominion over you for you are not under law but under Grace."

We look at some people and think they should at least be able to abstain from doing certain "simple" things like watching pornography, just because we can do these things. Their weakness is not our weakness. We see a man in a wheelchair and understand why he cannot run a marathon but we wonder why a person that has legs is not running and chide him for his inability to run because of our inability to see that he is crippled inside.

The truth is the reason we are not committing particular sins is because we have not been tempted beyond what we can bear in those areas. Peter is a fine example of trying to not sin by human effort after experiencing Jesus. He KNEW 100% that he would never deny Jesus when he boasted in his own strength. But he failed, just as many of us boast that some sins are beneath us, until a test that we cannot handle comes up. If a big enough trial came our way and it was up to us to save ourselves, even the best of us will fail woefully.

No matter how much a weightlifter trains, if you give him more than he can carry, he will fail if he depends on himself. And we are not all of the same size. What is light to one may be heavy for another. The potential to commit heinous crimes is in everybody. The flesh in a pastor is the same flesh in a paedophile. The arm of flesh (human effort) will fail. God sees this potential and how favourable circumstances can make some people, even believers, think that they are above committing particular sins. But see 1 Corinthians 10:13-

"We all experience times of testing, which is normal for every human being. But God will be faithful to you. He will screen and filter the severity, nature, and timing of every test or trial you face so that you can bear it. And each test is an opportunity to trust Him more, for along with every trial God has provided for you a way of escape that will bring you out of it victoriously."

Someone needs to bring you out of your trials and temptations. That Someone is Jesus Christ. Trying to stop sinning by your own power when we can do nothing without Christ won't help you. Without Christ, all will fail if they encounter a weight that they cannot carry.

Those who can save themselves by their own power, even from the tiniest sin, are saying they don't need Jesus to wash them clean. These ones can save themselves from their sins. But this is what Christ came to do:

"She will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.” Matt. 1:21.

http://rightbelieving101..com/2018/06/as-believer-how-can-i-stop-sinning.html?m=1

so are we saying that, for instances, some Pastors that are believers, yet sleeps around with their church members, even though they are married, will make heaven because of grace(Christ Jesus)?

BBBlaze:
so are we saying that, for instances, some Pastors that are believers, yet sleeps around with their church members, even though they are married, will make heaven because of grace(Christ Jesus)?

Read the whole article and you will understand the message it is passing across.

Why Are You Trying To Make The Scripture Futile? You Don't Quote The Scripture To Suite Your Flesh If Not You Put Yourself In Bondage.
Romans 8:1 Says: ''There Is Therefore Now No Condemnation To Them Who Are In Christ Jesus.''
(2) Who Walk Not After The FLESH But After The SPIRIT''.
Galatians 5:19-21 Says:
''Now The Works Of The Flesh Are Manifest Which Are These Adultery, Fornication, Uncleanness, Lasciviousnes. . .
Verese 21 Says, Those Who Practice Such Shall Not Enter The KINGDOM OF GOD.
This New Generation Grace Gospel Will Lead Many To Hell If Not Checked, Cos There Is Now Very Slim Difference If Any At All Between The Man In The World And The Man In Some Churches. . .
Read Revelations Chapter 2:1-End And See Christ's Warning To The Churches.
The Truth Is That If U Still Live In Sin, You Are Of The Devil.
Don't Mislead People With Only The Preaching Of Grace Tell Them The Truth Too Because It Is The Truth That Can Set A Man Free. Jesus Did Not Only Come With Grace, He Also Came With Truth (John 1:17).
May God Open Our Heart To Understand Him In His Word.

jiggaz:
I just forwarded it to you now. Check your email.

alright ,would check it out

Ogbeni, simply cut off whatever part of your body that leads you to sin. You’ll stop in no time..

You are not a believer in the first instance!
As to what to do, repent from your sins, confess them and ask for forgiveness. Promise God never to go back to your sins and ask God for grace. Titus 1vs11-14. Proverbs 28vs13, Roman 10vs8-13.
There are no sinning believer!

I still don't get it. Do I keep on sinning and hope that one day I'll get tired of it and be saved?

shoboy9:
Well said. Repentance through Jesus brings the power and grace to change /resurrect.

Yes bro, Christ is offering us a new nature.

2Cor 5:17 If anyone be in Christ, he is a new creation." He has the incorruptible seed of God in him.

jiggaz:
The more you try by your own effort at obeying the law in order to curb sin, the more sin will multiply. We see why in Romans 6:14— “For sin shall not have dominion over you for you are not under law but under Grace.”
The more you try to obey the law (stop sinning) by human effort, the stronger the grip of sin, but this is taught in reverse in many places of worship.

In a way, I see this verse - Romans 6:14 - play out in my kids’ lives during every school holiday. No PS4 on school nights (law) and they act like I’m cutting off their limbs. It's all they want to do. If I wasn’t there to restrict them from playing, that's all they would do all day. The holidays arrive and they can play for as long as they like without the threat of punishment or consequences (grace.) There's a playing frenzy for the first few days of this grace period. The frenzy fizzles out and then, somehow, they don't go near their game consoles for days on end.

Many who are struggling with sins and addictions go to church looking for salvation but get burdened with more laws to keep and things to do by human effort, based on the knowledge of good and evil. They are told in church that doing these things will make them godly (be like God.) Same strategy Satan used with Eve when he deceived her into eating of the tree of the same name - the knowledge of good and evil. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is a picture of the law that many are trying to keep in order to become godly (be like God). See this in Paul's typology - the law as the forbidden fruit - in Romans 7:8-12 (MSG) -

"The law code started out as an excellent piece of work. What happened, though, was that sin found a way to pervert the command into a temptation, making a piece of “forbidden fruit” out of it. The law code, instead of being used to guide me, was used to seduce me.Without all the paraphernalia of the law code, sin looked pretty dull and lifeless, and I went along without paying much attention to it. But once sin got its hands on the law code and decked itself out in all that finery, I was fooled, and fell for it. The very command that was supposed to guide me into life was cleverly used to trip me up, throwing me headlong.

Satan is still seducing people through his ministers behind many pulpits today by deceiving many into thinking that they can be godly by human effort at keeping the law and doing certain things that involve human effort. It seemed good to Eve, as it seems good to many in the church today. But the end is death. The letter kills. We can do nothing without Christ, least of all be godly, but these "men of God" deny God's power in making the sinner who believes righteous through Christ. The result of feeding on the law is still the same as it was in the time of Adam and Eve - Death. Sin has dominion.

Just like my kids who lost interest in their PS4 game when they had grace to play without threat of punishment, "Without all the paraphernalia of the law code, sin looked pretty dull and lifeless, and I went along without paying much attention to it."
Remove condemnation and sin will lose its grip over the sinner. In Christ, there is no condemnation for the believer. Romans 8:1 says:

“Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.”

Think about this verse. Why would God tell you that there is no condemnation for you who are in Christ if you have not sinned? This gift of no condemnation is for people that have sins and believe that Christ paid the price for their sins. Also notice that Romans 8:1 begins with “Therefore.” It is the outcome of something in chapter 7:

21 “I have discovered this principle of life—that when I want to do what is right, I inevitably do what is wrong. 22 I love God’s law with all my heart. 23 But there is another power within me that is at war with my mind. This power makes me a slave to the sin that is still within me. 24 Oh, what a miserable person I am! Who will free me from this life that is dominated by sin and death?
25 Thank God! The answer is in Jesus Christ our Lord. So you see how it is: In my mind I really want to obey God’s law, but because of my sinful nature I am a slave to sin.” End of Romans 7. Chapter 8 opens with:
“Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.”

It is Christ's “Neither do I condemn you” that makes us “go and sin no more.” Christ saves from sins. My video game analogy does not even compare to how we are saved from our sins by Christ of whom it is written in Matthew 1:21-
“She will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.”

Many people are worried about the issue of sins and living a life of moral excellence. This is the beauty of being in Christ. The Holy Spirit transforms us from within so much that what is on the outside cannot but align with what is inside.
Understand what makes a person a sinner; we see this in Romans 5:19—
“By one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man's obedience many will be made righteous.”

Committing acts of sin is not what makes a person a sinner. People are made sinners by Adam's disobedience. Likewise, we are made righteous by Christ's obedience and not our puny efforts at obeying the law. The one with the sinful nature does not believe that he has been made righteous by Christ's obedience. He is not a newcreation in Christ. He has the sin (old) nature. He is trying to stop sinning/obey the law by his own power in order to be godly (be like God.)

This sinful nature inherited from Adam, when activated by the law that many are trying so hard to obey in a bid to be godly, is what causes sin to flourish. See Romans 7:5–
“When we were controlled by our old nature, sinful desires were at work within us, and the law aroused these evil desires that produced a harvest of sinful deeds, resulting in death.”

The law that many try to keep in a bid to be godly causes them to sin more. Christ died to rid us of this sinful nature that was inherited from Adam. See Colossians 2:13-

"When you came to Christ, you were "circumcised," but not by a physical procedure. Christ performed a spiritual circumcision--the cutting away of your sinful nature."

This is what happens when the sinner rests in God's gift of righteousness to us in Christ and is no longer trying to obey the law in order to be godly:

“So, my dear brothers and sisters, this is the point: You died to the power of the law when you died with Christ. And now you are united with the One who was raised from the dead. As a result, we can produce a harvest of good deeds for God.”

Imagine a maggot-infested pot (the sinner without God's gift of righteousness through Christ) with a dead rat in it (sinful nature inherited from Adam), with maggots breeding inside and crawling all over the outside of the pot (sin manifested), attracting flies and all sorts (lack, sickness, disease, etc.)

What our Saviour Jesus did for all who believe is get rid of the dead rat- cut away the sinful nature according to Colossians 2 above and gave us His gift of righteousness. He continuously washes and fills us to overflowing with the water of the Word (of faith, not the law), all through no effort of ours but through His Spirit that dwells in us.

In place of the dead rat aka sin nature that can only produce maggots of acts of sin that attract flies of lack, sickness and death, we have His gift of Righteousness and constant supply of the Spirit that produces right-living according to God's will and attracts not flies but health, prosperity and abundant life.

Once the heart is believing right, your actions and behaviour will line up with the Spirit within. The maggots outside the pot (sin manifested) will vanish in His time, with none crawling out to replace them because the inside is pure and alive, not stagnant!
All these things shall be ADDED unto you. Not only will you Live Right by "accident" and not continue in sin with Christ as your righteousness, you will do exploits and be a blessing to others too. Your salvation will be evident for all to see, "For it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure." - Philippians 2:13.

ALL OF THESE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR PUNY EFFORTS AT TRYING TO LIVE RIGHT. CHRIST DOES IT ALL SO WE ARE UNABLE TO BOAST ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO STOP SINNING OR DEMAND THAT OTHERS DO SO BY THEIR OWN MIGHT AND POWER.

Many sinners want to stop sinning but what to do when you get tempted beyond what you can bear? No matter how much you tempt me to eat watermelon, I will not, unless you threaten me with harm But some people love watermelon. We all have different areas of weakness. Christ saves from all.

We look at some people and think they just want to wallow in fornication and adultery. Their weakness is not our weakness so we don't understand or know how hard they are struggling inside, trying hard to be obedient but failing. The reason they are failing is in Romans 6:14- "For sin shall not have dominion over you for you are not under law but under Grace."

We look at some people and think they should at least be able to abstain from doing certain "simple" things like watching pornography, just because we can do these things. Their weakness is not our weakness. We see a man in a wheelchair and understand why he cannot run a marathon but we wonder why a person that has legs is not running and chide him for his inability to run because of our inability to see that he is crippled inside.

The truth is the reason we are not committing particular sins is because we have not been tempted beyond what we can bear in those areas. Peter is a fine example of trying to not sin by human effort after experiencing Jesus. He KNEW 100% that he would never deny Jesus when he boasted in his own strength. But he failed, just as many of us boast that some sins are beneath us, until a test that we cannot handle comes up. If a big enough trial came our way and it was up to us to save ourselves, even the best of us will fail woefully.

No matter how much a weightlifter trains, if you give him more than he can carry, he will fail if he depends on himself. And we are not all of the same size. What is light to one may be heavy for another. The potential to commit heinous crimes is in everybody. The flesh in a pastor is the same flesh in a paedophile. The arm of flesh (human effort) will fail. God sees this potential and how favourable circumstances can make some people, even believers, think that they are above committing particular sins. But see 1 Corinthians 10:13-

"We all experience times of testing, which is normal for every human being. But God will be faithful to you. He will screen and filter the severity, nature, and timing of every test or trial you face so that you can bear it. And each test is an opportunity to trust Him more, for along with every trial God has provided for you a way of escape that will bring you out of it victoriously."

Someone needs to bring you out of your trials and temptations. That Someone is Jesus Christ. Trying to stop sinning by your own power when we can do nothing without Christ won't help you. Without Christ, all will fail if they encounter a weight that they cannot carry.

Those who can save themselves by their own power, even from the tiniest sin, are saying they don't need Jesus to wash them clean. These ones can save themselves from their sins. But this is what Christ came to do:

"She will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.” Matt. 1:21.

http://rightbelieving101..com/2018/06/as-believer-how-can-i-stop-sinning.html?m=1

Sorry to burst ur bubble, U can't stop sinning .

Mt 13:31 He told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his field. 32 Though it is the smallest of all seeds, yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds come and perch in its branches.”

33 He told them still another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like yeast that a woman took and mixed into about sixty pounds of flour until it worked all through the dough.”

During the fall of man, Satan flooded mankind with evil spirits (birds of the air). Every descendant of Adam ha these demons; they are the reason why sin is an incurable disease among mankind. but sin sin is actually curable. Drive out the demons and keep them out and sin is gone.

Mt. 12:28 But if it is by the Spirit of God that I drive out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

If you have the Holy Spirit in you, you can drive out the demons that make you to sin and keep them out.

Every demon operating in my body, I drive you out by the Holy Spirit of the Most High God, in the name of Jesus Christ.

James 4:7 Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

See https://www.nairaland.com/4605925/healing-even-incurable-diseases

Gggg102:
1.is it impossible for god to create man with the inability to get a sinful nature without restricting freewill?

2.mindlessness would have saved millions from hell.

3. the whole idea just feels like god created a problem so that he would solve it. that's just redundant and needless.
for instance god could have decided not to create Lucifer and nobody would have rebelled/tempted Adam and Eve.

ever wonder how many different types of species on earth? many are meaningless in man point of view. except you can understand why a manufacturer produce đ different goods some inferior and other classic, you will find it difficult to understand God creative motives. for instance ask yourself why did God created dog? the world certainly can function without dogs

PrecisionFx:
Sorry to burst ur bubble, U can't stop sinning .

understand your point. But I am not cool with the keep on sinning phrase.

I know there is no condemnation in Christ .... in Christ. In Christ In Christ.... remain in me and I will remain in you .. For one that remains in Christ.. ..

There's a duty to remain in what you have just got ; salvation ...

Although you can fall into temptation. And and if you fall , we have an advocate in Christ jesus ..... John 2: 2...

If is different from when. Thats why i said I have an issue with the keep on sinning. In Matt 6:5 ,Matt 6:7 the bible says and when you pray.... this means you have to pray you have a duty to keep on praying.

It's not the same as if you sin. Therefore you cannot be in Christ and keep on sinning .

I hope I was clear.

The Grace of our Lord Jah be with us all. AMEN...

brodalokie:
You can't do it yourself. Keep on sinning but be at the place where it will be taken away from you and one day you will realize it's no longer there.

understand your point. But I am not cool with the keep on sinning phrase.

I know there is no condemnation in Christ .... in Christ. In Christ In Christ.... remain in me and I will remain in you .. For one that remains in Christ.. ..

There's a duty to remain in what you have just got ; salvation ...

Although you can fall into temptation. And and if you fall , we have an advocate in Christ jesus ..... John 2: 2...

If is different from when. Thats why i said I have an issue with the keep on sinning. In Matt 6:5 ,Matt 6:7 the bible says and when you pray.... this means you have to pray you have a duty to keep on praying.

It's not the same as if you sin. Therefore you cannot be in Christ and keep on sinning .

I hope I was clear.

The Grace of our Lord Jah be with us all. AMEN...

Blackzlatan:
understand your point. But I am not cool with the keep on sinning phrase.

I know there is no condemnation in Christ .... in Christ. In Christ In Christ.... remain in me and I will remain in you .. For one that remains in Christ.. ..

There's a duty to remain in what you have just got ; salvation ...

Although you can fall into temptation. And and if you fall , we have an advocate in Christ jesus ..... John 2: 2...

If is different from when. Thats why i said I have an issue with the keep on sinning. In Matt 6:5 ,Matt 6:7 the bible says and when you pray.... this means you have to pray you have a duty to keep on praying.

It's not the same as if you sin. Therefore you cannot be in Christ and keep on sinning .

I hope I was clear.

The Grace of our Lord Jah be with us all. AMEN...

Allow me to rest please. What is reigning in my ear now is Oba and Buhari. They are more powerful than Jesus Christ. We are in another testerment. The era of Jesus Christ has passed and we are now the gods with psychic abilities and we have a center which is oba. He alone shall we serve and show reference to.

Evening

walls01:
ever wonder how many different types of species on earth? many are meaningless in man point of view. except you can understand why a manufacturer produce đ different goods some inferior and other classic, you will find it difficult to understand God creative motives. for instance ask yourself why did God created dog? the world certainly can function without dogs

a manufacturer produces different goods to cater to consumers.

god could have created dogs because he felt like.
the world can also function without man.

you are not even trying to answer the questions...