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| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:34pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
forgiveness:I think Osimhen is close to Orji. Might not have goals but he has notched a couple starts and I am sure he will get a look this year. He is closer to the Wolfsburg first XI than Orji is to Bolognas'. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 3:24am On Jul 18, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli:Giroud's record for France is far better than Ighalo for Nigeria. Ighalo has simply not produced for years. He has had more poor/average games than good games. Nigeria has had strikers in the past that hold up play. Yakubu had a good hold up game but he also scored goals. There is very little to defend Ighalo with. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:12am On Jul 18, 2018 |
ChrisKels:shebi i dey talk am say only first school leaving certificate is the way forward to control age falsification. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Loogan(m): 6:25am On Jul 18, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe:Amunike is so knowledgeable, only if he were in the place of salisu, we would have started seeing some beautiful football from the SE b team, feel like all he needs to be a top coach in the not to distant future is the exposure and experience of managing. if only he was the one talking some sense into gernot head in Russia! |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 6:59am On Jul 18, 2018 |
Loogan:Amuneke did not do very well in Sudan. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 7:16am On Jul 18, 2018*. Modified: 8:05am On Jul 18, 2018 |
Chico Ofoedu has joined Israeli club, Maccabi Haifa. Used to be one of the most talented players in the Nigerian league but he has been playing in the Turkish 2nd division. Good or bad move? |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:54am On Jul 18, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe:His first touch and movement showed he is very talented looking at his age. Watch very well and you will see what I am seeing. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:34am On Jul 18, 2018 |
forgiveness:Since he is 18, U20 Team handlers over to you. Or maybe he is no longer elligle for our youth teams. It is high time the NFF organizes a friendly for young up coming talent like the one against Athletico Madrid. We need to see alot of these players perform first before flooding them into the Super Eagles. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:41am On Jul 18, 2018 |
tbaba1234:Chikeluba Ofoedu, just like Chisom Chikatara, Jude Aneke, Egbuchulam, and others. Make name in the NPFL dash out of the country and disappear from the radar. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Loogan(m): 8:43am On Jul 18, 2018 |
tbaba1234:Not cutting him any slack but there are other reasons aside from the pitch that can make a coach not get results. The conditions or talent at his disposal might not have favored his ideas. For example It’s hard to see very technically gifted players in Sudan league, something which is crucial for amunikes philosophy. He’s shown he’s a good coach we can’t judge him solely on his league performances in a sub par league at that. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 8:53am On Jul 18, 2018 |
tbaba1234:Goldfish80 this is the guy you were talking about |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 8:58am On Jul 18, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli:Giroud plays much better for France than Ighalo can ever dream of for us. There's a reason why Deschamps brought him back to the lineup sharpish. I like Ighalo but he messed up at the WC and the friendlies. Giroud gets criticized as well (probably even more as he's Benzema's replacement) but he just moves on with it. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AIG07: 9:07am On Jul 18, 2018 |
'We kill them, Messi or no Messi´ - Pogba´s pre-Argentina World Cup speech revealedAttitude is everything. They went and conquered with the right mindset. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:10am On Jul 18, 2018*. Modified: 9:59am On Jul 18, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli:To be candid Ighalo failed and Nigerians always look for scapegoat and he fit the bill for missing the two chances.No matter the explanation you put in nobody is ready to listen,remember Ighalo is not popular and he failed woefully to correct that impression when it matter most.I remember seeing him being compared with Lokosa, just to tell you he wasn't rated. Sir did you see anyone castigating Iheanacho poor playing at WC as Ighalo,that's it.Hope you are hearing Rohr didn't give Iwobi enough playing time whereas the same Iwobi was originally in Nigeria WC XI but a flop against Croatia but guess what he was played out of position as if not the same Iwobi of arsenal. I remember a lot don't want to see Omeruo in Nigeria team preferring very average Awaziem and overrated Ekong but just too glaring Omeruo is better than the duo and thank God he made the team. Ekong cost us Croatia match but did yiu see guys pointing this out.First goal he left his man and second goal he wrestled his man and caused the penalty.Good not Omeruo cos a lot would have criticised him with different names calling I remember many flanks Aina received especially against Congo for the foul he commited which was even outside the box but when my talented Ebuehi gave out two glaring penalties against Iceland with one awarded,excuses arised to the point that some put the blame on Omeruo for the foul which should be Ebuehi responsibility. I'm saying this to let you know that sometimes emotions override our football reasonings Sir I think Rohr just need to change his style of managing the team if he want to succeed as eagle's coach. Brian Idowu had a very average WC and it brought a question why did Echiejile made the team when Ebuehi came in for Idowu against Iceland when we have a natural LB in Echiejile on the bench then why was Aina dropped. It would have been better to have young Aina on the bench just like we have Awaziem on the bench,meaning the dropping of Aina and Agu was wrong since Rohr lack confidence in Echiejile and Joel Obi. I remember saying i hope Simy would not be another Nwofor at WC not doubting his talent but a striker that made WC just cos he had late run in Seria A and 7goals in a season and suddenly turned to a gold that we are looking for meaning something was wrong. I'm one of Shehu advocates here but pre WC friendlies told us that Ebuehi should be a starter but surprisedly we saw Shehu against Croatia.The same Shehu that failed to exact himself against Argentina, England, Poland,Czech and even Congo. I thought Rohr would rearranged his team with superlative performance of Ebuehi against Argentina with Aina as back up as RB/RWB cos they are better than makeshift Shehu and put Idowu and Echiejile who Rohr still believe in as LB and pushed Shehu to the midfield since he was even ahead of Agu in the same position in Buraspor and drop Joel but really surprised that Rohr failed to see this simple adaptive changes. Sir do we need to blame any player?NO but Rohr who failed to identify his XI for WC and this started after our victory against Argentina in a friendly.I told icon4s that Argentina Victory would be our greatest undue and it manifested in series of our friendlies prior to WC. I thought Rohr would continue with Argentina match XI and do highly tactical changes by replacing player who failed to meet up in subsequent friendlies but against Poland reverse was the case. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AIG07: 9:11am On Jul 18, 2018 |
Ighalo on his return got a goal for his club yesterday. ![]() |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:56am On Jul 18, 2018 |
Kog45:It is called selective criticism. As much as Nigerians want to kill Ighalo for the infamous miss, the gospel truth is that the miss against Argentina will not rank inside the top 10 miss of the tournament. off the top of my head, Lukaku, Thomas Muller, Keane, those Peruvian strikers had more guilt edge misses much more worse than Ighalos. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:03am On Jul 18, 2018 |
edi287:You're correct. The guy is good enough to play at the highest level his talent really deserves. I consider him a victim of the poor Nigerian structure and management. He is the kind of talent that if he was Brazilian, top European clubs would have cut corners to sign him up for silly money at 19yrs old. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 10:09am On Jul 18, 2018 |
Kog45:See, let us not mince words. Ighalo has not produced as a striker. There is no way to get past this reality. Even before the WC, these concerns were raised. As a person, I like Ighalo because of his charitable deeds but as Nigeria's striker, he simply has not produced. And yes, if a striker misses two glaring chances in an important game, he will be a scapegoat. We played Ighalo friendly after friendly after friendly.. He simply did not cut it. Players make mistakes but Ighalo's barren spell for Nigeria has lasted too long. Agali and Yakubu also held up the ball but they scored goals so i do not understand this hold up play argument. Giroud has scored plenty goals for France. Iheanacho's performance is no excuse for Ighalo. The reason why Musa and Iheanacho started the last two games was because the Ighalo option was not working. If Iheanacho missed two clear chances, he will be getting heat too. After the first game, Ekong made mistakes but he played well in subsequent games. I pointed out Ekong's mistakes on this page. So saying, guys did not point out Ekong's mistakes is false. Omeruo was at fault for Argentina's first goal by the way. He got beaten on his blind side. If it is about blame, there is plenty to go around. The penalty caused by Ebuehi. Ofcourse, Omeruo shares the blame.. Did you not see the replay? That does not exonerate Ebuehi by the way. It is not one way or the other. Both players made mistakes. if you are objective in this case, you will see that. That does not take away the fact that Omeruo had a MOTM performance in that game. That is a balanced view. I think Rohr tried to reward the players that took him to the WC and was reluctant to change. He needed to select the best possible team. It took a loss to Croatia for him to change things around. Everyone knew our best system was 3:5:2 and that Elderson was finished. Anyway, i hope he learns his lessons as we move forward. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:09am On Jul 18, 2018 |
edi287:Compared to Ighalo Giroud was piss poor. Never completed a hold up play just heading balls to nowhere in particular. Not a single shot on target says a l. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:12am On Jul 18, 2018 |
goldfish80:At WC i don't blame players much but coaches,too glaring Rohr was bereaved of ideas when it matter most and against Argentina all he needed was bring in fresh Onazi,Ogu or Joel to replace tired Mikel and Etebo and round up the game. Westerhoff did this against Italy with Oliha and Adepoju to absorb the pressure and if not for Oliseh childish clearance we would have beat Italy. Rohr need to update himself tactically by getting a quality assistants cos in the next 6 months enough talents for Nigeria national teams and only coach with tactical awareness w be able to handle those boys. Rohr and Aigbogun have a lot of work to do tactically. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 10:14am On Jul 18, 2018 |
goldfish80:He has been playing in the second tier in Turkey for years and no top Turkish side deemed it fit to sign him all these years. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by isan(m): 10:17am On Jul 18, 2018 |
Should the title of this thread not be changed now? Russia 2018 is over |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:18am On Jul 18, 2018 |
isan:Yes you are right |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:21am On Jul 18, 2018 |
tbaba1234:Could be because he's a bad player. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 10:28am On Jul 18, 2018 |
What is the point of giving any consideration to Igahlo's new record in China. Was it done in a competitive league? No. Has he ever delivered for us? No. Will he ever delivered for us in the future? No. What a waste of a WC spot. *spits* |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:31am On Jul 18, 2018 |
tbaba1234:My point is why selective criticism. Yes you are right,a good Ighalo would not have brought Iheanacho in but a solid Iheanacho against Argentina would not have brought Ighalo in. I drew out my fear before WC about Ighalo and Iheanacho goal drought but some see it as comparison. On Ebuehi penalty, have watched the replay and i know your point.Omeruo wanted to go for the ball but suddenly relaxed his movement and this brought a little bit confusion to Ebuehi but despite that Ebuehi should have done better. On Ekong i knew he improved on his performance after Croatia but i know if it was Omeruo against Croatia with such performance some would have cursed him to high heaven. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 10:33am On Jul 18, 2018 |
goldfish80:I don't think, he is a bad player. I see a lot of good highlights but he has run down his contract a few times without getting better teams. Poor management might be his biggest problem not talent. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 10:40am On Jul 18, 2018*. Modified: 11:01am On Jul 18, 2018 |
Kog45:Ighalo gets most criticism because he is the one that missed crucial chances. Yakubu had a great Nigeria career but many people can not forget his miss against south korea. What is clear to me is that Nigeria needs new strikers. I hope Awoniyi, Sadiq, Dessers etc are given a chance. Ighalo should be gradually eased into international retirement. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:43am On Jul 18, 2018 |
tbaba1234:That is why I said he was a victim of Nigeria and poor management. He shouldn't have moved from Rangers to Turkish Tigg2 in the first place. Although he had options at Germany and Rosenberg which didn't come through. I think Rosenberg didn't sign him due to foreign player quota. It is tough being Nigerian. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:44am On Jul 18, 2018 |
tbaba1234:Do you honestly think the Ighalo miss is comparable to Yakubu's? |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 10:47am On Jul 18, 2018 |
goldfish80:In Importance, probably more important. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:57am On Jul 18, 2018 |
Kog45:Rohr started getting it wrong in the Argentina game from the personnel he started the game with. Starting Iheanacho was a tactical suicide because the decision cost him valuable substitution slot, having reduced his subs to just 2 by bringing Ighalo on to rectify the error. If Ighalo had started, Rohr would have had more tactical flexibility and the affirmation to sub him off in the 2nd half for a defensive midfielder to sure up the game. The reason Rohr was cut in a no man's land to bring on subs who will close the game out, was because he couldn't sub Ighalo out who was a sub himself. This was the reason he was helpless at the dugout, knowing Ighalo was one of his biggest players. |
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