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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 11:07am On Aug 02, 2018
phaamsaam:

The truth is you madristas are very shameless, you wanna compare your refereeing,,,, cheating, uefa support, blood shedding and threatening club with barca... You beat barcelona in all you listed above and added blood shedding to cap it... The most astonishing thing is being shameless at trying to berate fcb at what you are great at
cry cry baby

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 12:50pm On Aug 02, 2018
Higuain is now a Milan Player.
Is like Modric wants to leave us. Maybe he wants another challenge.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 1:49pm On Aug 02, 2018
Captain SergioRamos is in his 14th season at
realmadrid
4 LaLiga titles
2 Copa del Rey trophies
4 Champions League trophies
3 Club World Cups
3 Spanish Super Cups
3 European Super Cups

Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 4:45pm On Aug 02, 2018
Gareth Bale apparently sustained a slight injury, according to multiple reports, with the forward sitting out the remainder of training as a precaution because of his history.

And this is someone we claim will replace Ronaldo. OK o.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by philfearon(m): 4:51pm On Aug 02, 2018
This Ekuke dey here dey comment and reply himself.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by hardeycute(m): 4:56pm On Aug 02, 2018
Miremoses1:
Gareth Bale apparently sustained a slight injury, according to multiple reports, with the forward sitting out the remainder of training as a precaution because of his history.

And this is someone we claim will replace Ronaldo. OK o.
I only know of one idiot, on this thread
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by hopefulLandlord: 6:26pm On Aug 02, 2018
phaamsaam:

The truth is you madristas are very shameless, you wanna compare your refereeing,,,, cheating, uefa support, blood shedding and threatening club with barca... You beat barcelona in all you listed above and added blood shedding to cap it... The most astonishing thing is being shameless at trying to berate fcb at what you are great at
Loserlona

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LordAdamX: 6:36pm On Aug 02, 2018
Seems the Modric saga is shaping up to be Cristiano 2.0.

#fingerscrossed

-Lord
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Nobody: 7:36pm On Aug 02, 2018
LordAdamX:
Seems the Modric saga is shaping up to be Cristiano 2.0.

#fingerscrossed

-Lord

Pls kill me already cry
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 7:44pm On Aug 02, 2018
LordAdamX:
Seems the Modric saga is shaping up to be Cristiano 2.0.

#fingerscrossed

-Lord
I believe modric won't force the club to let him leave.

Let's just wait and see.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LordAdamX: 8:41pm On Aug 02, 2018
Miremoses1:
I believe modric won't force the club to let him leave.

Let's just wait and see.

Reports are that he's asking for a wage increase. However, instead of Flo to address that he said he'd sell Modric for 750m euros, which is reminiscent of his CR7's comment after the UCL win when he said CR7 is under a contract. Seriously, how can any reasonable person put a price on Modric? In a season where you've lost Zizzou and CR7. He's not for sale. Period. Nasser or Levy will not put a price on Mbappe or Kane currently. They're not for sale.

Modric is 33. He is a WC Golden Ball Winner and will definitely be in the Ballon D'Or top 3 this year. Has won all there is to win. Has no more than 2 years at the top. Contract ends in 2020.

Now is his chance to get a golden handshake before his performance inevitably dips and he's unceremoniously shipped off like Pepe. We all know Flo and his merry band of "the club is always bigger than the player" supporters wouldn't want to give him a better contract. If they couldn't for CR7 why would they do so for LM10. Some are already saying we are stacked in the midfield, so we should cash in on him now.

That's why I said it's looking like a Cristiano 2.0. Modric staying is not dependent on Flo, it's dependent on Modric. And with Barca hijacking Vidal from Inter's grasp, who knows what kind of offer they're preparing for Modric.

-Lord

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Neimar: 8:54pm On Aug 02, 2018
lol....I pity madrid
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LosVikingos: 7:42am On Aug 03, 2018
LordAdamX:


Reports are that he's asking for a wage increase. However, instead of Flo to address that he said he'd sell Modric for 750m euros, which is reminiscent of his CR7's comment after the UCL win when he said CR7 is under a contract. Seriously, how can any reasonable person put a price on Modric? In a season where you've lost Zizzou and CR7. He's not for sale. Period. Nasser or Levy will not put a price on Mbappe or Kane currently. They're not for sale.

Modric is 33. He is a WC Golden Ball Winner and will definitely be in the Ballon D'Or top 3 this year. Has won all there is to win. Has no more than 2 years at the top. Contract ends in 2020.

Now is his chance to get a golden handshake before his performance inevitably dips and he's unceremoniously shipped off like Pepe. We all know Flo and his merry band of "the club is always bigger than the player" supporters wouldn't want to give him a better contract. If they couldn't for CR7 why would they do so for LM10. Some are already saying we are stacked in the midfield, so we should cash in on him now.

That's why I said it's looking like a Cristiano 2.0. Modric staying is not dependent on Flo, it's dependent on Modric. And with Barca hijacking Vidal from Inter's grasp, who knows what kind of offer they're preparing for Modric.

-Lord

Like you've said... Modric won't go.. But it will be his decision to stay.

And seriously.. I don't think modric can join barka...
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LordAdamX: 8:43am On Aug 03, 2018
LosVikingos:


Like you've said... Modric won't go.. But it will be his decision to stay.

And seriously.. I don't think modric can join barka...


It's Inter that's interested in him.

Inter was chasing Vidal as a back-up plan. Barca hijacked Vidal from Inter, which implies that Inter will press harder for Modric.

What's especially frustrating is that we all were expecting these veterans to stay at the club and gradually ease out of the way for the tyros, while we maintain competitiveness. All of a sudden, it appears like we were too optimistic. Inter of all clubs looking to prise the world's best midfielder from Real Madrid. You couldn't make this up.

Now we're heading into a season with Benzema, who we all agreed plays better as a 10, as our main striker; and Bale who got injured in training. F**king training. Buy a striker, even Rodrigo or Aspas, as an emergency backup option; Flo says no. It's like Flo didn't learn anything from our disastrous domestic campaign last season.

It just seems like the man is setting up Lope.

-Lord

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 2:03pm On Aug 03, 2018
Modric to inter is no longer a joke. Inter wants to pay him £11m per year if he joins.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LordAdamX: 3:05pm On Aug 03, 2018
Miremoses1:
Modric to inter is no longer a joke. Inter wants to pay him £11m per year if he joins.

The interesting part is that he's actually considering it. He's currently on vacation in Italy. And AS is saying his reps could meet with Flo next week to push for an out.

Inter just got Nainggolan and Borja in Mid. They've got Icardi and Perisic upfront. And they're in the CL.

WTF is happening! Modric please don't leave!!!

-Lord
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Eyedea(m): 4:27pm On Aug 03, 2018
LordAdamX:


The interesting part is that he's actually considering it. He's currently on vacation in Italy. And AS is saying his reps could meet with Flo next week to push for an out.

Inter just got Nainggolan and Borja in Mid. They've got Icardi and Perisic upfront. And they're in the CL.

WTF is happening! Modric please don't leave!!!

-Lord
I'm guessing he revealed this to you?
c'mon man
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 4:34pm On Aug 03, 2018
Eyedea:

I'm guessing he revealed this to you?
c'mon man
his right, some people who are close to modric have said his considering the move to inter.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by hardeycute(m): 4:34pm On Aug 03, 2018
Evil days ahead


Zizou, CR7, probably Modric and Kovacic to also leave
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Eyedea(m): 4:36pm On Aug 03, 2018
Miremoses1:
his right, some people who are close to modric have said his considering the move to inter.
OK, if he leaves, that translates to more minutes for kovacic and ceballos but I don't think inter Milan can pressure us into selling anyone
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by monerozi5590: 6:23pm On Aug 03, 2018
If Modric truly wants to go, Perez should OK it.

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LordAdamX: 8:24pm On Aug 03, 2018
hardeycute:
Evil days ahead



Zizou, CR7, probably Modric and Kovacic to also leave

If Modric leaves, Kovacic will stay.

Eyedea:

OK, if he leaves, that translates to more minutes for kovacic and ceballos but I don't think inter Milan can pressure us into selling anyone

Inter Milan is not pressuring Madrid. They want Modric to ask for an out, like CR7 did with Juve. Next week we'd know if his reps asked for an out or if he decided to stay.

-Lord
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Yonce(f): 9:23pm On Aug 03, 2018
LordAdamX:


Reports are that he's asking for a wage increase. However, instead of Flo to address that he said he'd sell Modric for 750m euros, which is reminiscent of his CR7's comment after the UCL win when he said CR7 is under a contract. Seriously, how can any reasonable person put a price on Modric? In a season where you've lost Zizzou and CR7. He's not for sale. Period. Nasser or Levy will not put a price on Mbappe or Kane currently. They're not for sale.

Modric is 33. He is a WC Golden Ball Winner and will definitely be in the Ballon D'Or top 3 this year. Has won all there is to win. Has no more than 2 years at the top. Contract ends in 2020.

Now is his chance to get a golden handshake before his performance inevitably dips and he's unceremoniously shipped off like Pepe. We all know Flo and his merry band of "the club is always bigger than the player" supporters wouldn't want to give him a better contract. If they couldn't for CR7 why would they do so for LM10. Some are already saying we are stacked in the midfield, so we should cash in on him now.

That's why I said it's looking like a Cristiano 2.0. Modric staying is not dependent on Flo, it's dependent on Modric. And with Barca hijacking Vidal from Inter's grasp, who knows what kind of offer they're preparing for Modric.

-Lord

Real Madrid treat all their valuable players like shìt.
Iker, Kaka, Cristiano to name a few.
Players who have fought for them, gave sweat and blood to win trophies and accolades other top teams can only imagine. . .these men made it a reality for us.

If Perez can let go of Cristiano like a disposable rag then who tf is Modric. cheesy

I can't wait for the season to start to see how Benzema and Bale will lead our attack against Europe's finest. lipsrsealed

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LordAdamX: 10:01pm On Aug 03, 2018
Yonce:


Real Madrid treat all their valuable players like shìt.
Iker, Kaka, Cristiano to name a few.
Players who have fought for them, gave sweat and blood to win trophies and accolades other top teams can only imagine. . .these men made it a reality for us.

If Perez can let go of Cristiano like a disposable rag then who tf is Modric. cheesy

I can't wait for the season to start to see how Benzema and Bale will lead our attack against Europe's finest. lipsrsealed

Personally, I don't want to jinx the season.

But if we lose Modric as well, I wouldn't blame Lope or any of the players (even Benz) if we don't get results. Last season it took all the will and experience we could muster to get something out of a disastrous season after we shipped off James, Morata, and Pepe and didn't get replacements. Even tho' we've not replaced those players, we're also shipping off more, and have no plan to replace them either.

Given Benz's recent seasons, why should he be asked to spearhead an attack, if not to make him a convenient scapegoat. With Bale's real injury concerns, why should he be made to be main man without any backup, if not to make him a convenient scapegoat. Why should Asensio be made to walk in the shoes of a 5-time Ballon D'Or winner, if not to make him a convenient scapegoat. Why hire a new coach, ignore the very obvious issue with the team by not signing the headline striker we desperately need, and expect him to win a treble.

Hopefully Lope performs magic and the players play their best football all-season long. I don't think it's fair to the players or the coach to start a season with so many ifs. If things don't go their way, I know who I'd hold responsible.

-Lord

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by hopefulLandlord: 7:11am On Aug 04, 2018
Yonce:


Real Madrid treat all their valuable players like shìt.
Iker, Kaka, Cristiano to name a few.
Players who have fought for them, gave sweat and blood to win trophies and accolades other top teams can only imagine. . .these men made it a reality for us.

If Perez can let go of Cristiano like a disposable rag then who tf is Modric. cheesy

I can't wait for the season to start to see how Benzema and Bale will lead our attack against Europe's finest. lipsrsealed

Kaka? you mean the same Kaka that couldn't oust a 21 year old player due to his always being on the physio's table most of the season? what "sweat and blood" did Kaka to win trophies with us? even his first season when he appeared many times we won zero trophies. we quickly signed Oezil and Sergio Canales since we realised Kaka was made of glass

Iker left for first team football, it was obvious he was past his best but he didn't want to be second choice to Navas so he was told either he stays on the bench or leaves

Also Iker's case is that of a board sticking with a legend past his best. Mourinho benched Iker for Adan, who got sent off immediately in the match so Iker came back into the team. Iker got injured and Diego Lopez was bought who actually impressed and showed he's better than Casillas still the board let go of Mou and kept Casillas (a legend). He rotated next season with Diego Lopez playing the cups and some league matches while Diego played only league matches
Next season we let Diego go to Milan on a free and gave Casillas 100% starting spot in the team but your hate for Perez won't let you remember all these

In summary we got rid of Mou and Iker was part of the reason for that. we got rid of Lopez just for Casillas but somehow we should keep bending over for him just because he's a club legend? Also we won 3 straight UCL trophies since he left. we paid most of his wages for his first 2 years at FC Porto. Also have you forgotten his leaking information to his wife during the Mou era? his wife was reporting things that only someone with inside information would know but the club stuck with him and fired Mou

Also Ronaldo's case is looking like a purely tax related issue and his move to Italy lends credibility to that hypothesis as he'll pay 100,000 as tax for his foreign earnings in Italy whereas he paid 19M fine for the same in Spain. if that's the case then there's nothing the board could've done about that and they can't afford to set a bad precedent by paying his taxes for him as it would mean paying taxes for other players too if they fall into the same tax sheet



The board should be trusted more with their decisions even if it doesn't look sensible to many fans as they've earned it with their shrewd business and trophies so far. we've been pulling in profits in the last four transfer windows while winning a ton of trophies in the process or maybe we should sack Perez and put you there instead, you seem to know much better than the billionaire with your 0 days experience managing Madrid

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LordAdamX: 8:13am On Aug 04, 2018
hopefulLandlord:


Also Ronaldo's case is looking like a purely tax related issue and his move to Italy lends credibility to that hypothesis as he'll pay 100,000 as tax for his foreign earnings in Italy whereas he paid 19M fine for the same in Spain. if that's the case then there's nothing the board could've done about that and they can't afford to set a bad precedent by paying his taxes for him as it would mean paying taxes for other players too if they fall into the same tax sheet

Before you spread misinformation, can you provide any link that corroborates your claim that CR7 wanted the board to pay his taxes for him?

The board should be trusted more with their decisions even if it doesn't look sensible to many fans as they've earned it with their shrewd business and trophies so far. we've been pulling in profits in the last four transfer windows while winning a ton of trophies in the process or maybe we should sack Perez and put you there instead, you seem to know much better than the billionaire with your 0 days experience managing Madrid

You mean the same board that refused to replace Morata and James last summer and caused us an embarrassing CdR knockout to fr**king Leganes in a match where same Bale, Benzema, and Isco who are expected to lead our forward line this year played in; a 17 point difference from Barcelona; and a CL win where CR7's nerve of steel (against Juve), Navas unexplainable gymnastics (against Bayern), Bale's solo display (in the final), and Zidane's black magic saved us repeatedly from what would have been the worst season in recent history.

That's the same board you expect skeptics to have faith in.

Since they've been making profits 4 seasons in a row, why on God's green earth did they refuse to sign a quality back-up striker like Rodrigo (nevermind a galactico like Icardi) even tho' it's obvious to anyone with a bit of sporting sense that we need one. When sh*t starts hitting the fan, you and your ilk will start picking on specific players or the coach. I hope the team performs, but there is no iota of doubt that it is deliberately being sabotaged by Flo.

I'd really want to see the board's objectives for Lope this season so I can laugh my a$$ off!

-Lord

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by hopefulLandlord: 8:38am On Aug 04, 2018
LordAdamX:


Before you spread misinformation, can you provide any link that corroborates your claim that CR7 wanted the board to pay his taxes for him?
I think that part of my post began with a speculation that Taxes is the main reason for his leaving? if that's the case and its true Messi got his taxes paid by UEFAlona then its not far fetched to think Ronaldo would've asked for the same treatment Messi got to be given to him by our board too. I never said all those are facts

You mean the same board that refused to replace Morata and James last summer and caused us an embarrassing CdR knockout to fr**king Leganes in a match where same Bale, Benzema, and Isco who are expected to lead our forward line this year played in; a 17 point difference from Barcelona; and a CL win where CR7's nerve of steel (against Juve), Navas unexplainable gymnastics (against Bayern), Bale's solo display (in the final), and Zidane's black magic saved us repeatedly from what would have been the worst season in recent history.
That's the same board you expect skeptics to have faith in.


So when we win trophies the board shouldn't Be credited. the players and coaches should be but when we crash out of competitions then the board should take all the blame? okay

Since they've been making profits 4 seasons in a row, why on God's green earth did they refuse to sign a quality back-up striker like Rodrigo (nevermind a galactico like Icardi) even tho' it's obvious to anyone with a bit of sporting sense that we need one. When sh*t starts hitting the fan, you and your ilk will start picking on specific players or the coach. I hope the team performs, but there is no iota of doubt that it is deliberately being sabotaged by Flo.
You guys make me laugh. you sound like Perez sits on his chair fiddling while thinking of how to make the club worse lol

So we should've signed Rodrigo or Icardi, right? because all that's involved in making any deal is Madrid. we just slam our fist at the clubs and gbam! the player is ours? lol. what if the club doesn't want to sell? Perez should hold the other club board at gunpoint to sign. what if the club agrees but the player doesn't want to come? Perez should threaten his family so he can sign. what if the club/player ask for unreasonable prices and wages? so Perez should pay cuz we have money.......

Like I told Yonce, you guys should've been the one there not Perez

I'd really want to see the board's objectives for Lope this season so I can laugh my a$$ off!

-Lord
We should respect the board's decisions, they've earned it so far

I remember when we sold Oezil and most Madrid fans were angry at the club talking about how the sky would fall. Even Ronaldo himself said the sale made him angry or something. we won both UCL and Copa that season

Next season we sold Alonso and Di Maria. same fans were screaming at the board saying they're ruining the club. we went on a 22 game winning streak although injury to certain key players made the season end in a disaster

Next season, the board signed Zidane for coaching role the fanbase were also pessimistic saying Zidane is simply a stopgap measure, interim coach and he would be out of the club in six months (if he survives that long). they said the board is ruining the club and killing the status of a club legend. I'm sure many of such posts are on this very thread. That coach ended up staying for 2 and a half years, winning 3 straight UCL titles (more than Almighty Ferguson managed in his entire coaching career), a Laliga title, a supercopa title, 2 club world cup titles, 2 UEFA supercup titles and was regarded by many to be the best coach in the world during his reign.

The board have proved pessimistic fans wrong many times in the past that its time we start thinking they know what they're doing and there's a lot more that goes into running a club than what's being shown to us on match days or tweeted by certain journalists. until the disaster the pessimistic fans say would happen strikes I stand 100% with the board and even if the disaster strikes I have enough faith in our board's ability to weather that storm

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by hopefulLandlord: 9:08am On Aug 04, 2018
Lordadamx

As an addendum

I noticed you deleted those parts of my post that talked about Casillas and Kaka. I think you too need to correct our fans too when they say wrong things rather than leave them to spread ignorance. You quoted Yonce's post but didn't correct at least Kaka.

This is part of why I said there's groupthink here. we try hard to avoid arguing with each other and let people run away with misconceptions and misinformation in the process
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Miremoses1(m): 10:11am On Aug 04, 2018
Real Madrid would accept a deal worth €60m for Inter target Modric .

Source:ll Giornale
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by brandable: 10:26am On Aug 04, 2018
hopefulLandlord:

I think that part of my post began with a speculation that Taxes is the main reason for his leaving? if that's the case and its true Messi got his taxes paid by UEFAlona then its not far fetched to think Ronaldo would've asked for the same treatment Messi got to be given to him by our board too. I never said all those are facts


So when we win trophies the board shouldn't Be credited. the players and coaches should be but when we crash out of competitions then the board should take all the blame? okay

You guys make me laugh. you sound like Perez sits on his chair fiddling while thinking of how to make the club worse lol

So we should've signed Rodrigo or Icardi, right? because all that's involved in making any deal is Madrid. we just slam our fist at the clubs and gbam! the player is ours? lol. what if the club doesn't want to sell? Perez should hold the other club board at gunpoint to sign. what if the club agrees but the player doesn't want to come? Perez should threaten his family so he can sign. what if the club/player ask for unreasonable prices and wages? so Perez should pay cuz we have money.......

Like I told Yonce, you guys should've been the one there not Perez

We should respect the board's decisions, they've earned it so far

I remember when we sold Oezil and most Madrid fans were angry at the club talking about how the sky would fall. Even Ronaldo himself said the sale made him angry or something. we won both UCL and Copa that season

Next season we sold Alonso and Di Maria. same fans were screaming at the board saying they're ruining the club. we went on a 22 game winning streak although injury to certain key players made the season end in a disaster

Next season, the board signed Zidane for coaching role the fanbase were also pessimistic saying Zidane is simply a stopgap measure, interim coach and he would be out of the club in six months (if he survives that long). they said the board is ruining the club and killing the status of a club legend. I'm sure many of such posts are on this very thread. That coach ended up staying for 2 and a half years, winning 3 straight UCL titles (more than Almighty Ferguson managed in his entire coaching career), a Laliga title, a supercopa title, 2 club world cup titles, 2 UEFA supercup titles and was regarded by many to be the best coach in the world during his reign.

The board have proved pessimistic fans wrong many times in the past that its time we start thinking they know what they're doing and there's a lot more that goes into running a club than what's being shown to us on match days or tweeted by certain journalists. until the disaster the pessimistic fans say would happen strikes I stand 100% with the board and even if the disaster strikes I have enough faith in our board's ability to weather that storm
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Let's give the board a chance they are more informed better than we the fans. Perez has proven that he is a better president.

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LordAdamX: 10:52am On Aug 04, 2018
hopefulLandlord:

I think that part of my post began with a speculation that Taxes is the main reason for his leaving? if that's the case and its true Messi got his taxes paid by UEFAlona then its not far fetched to think Ronaldo would've asked for the same treatment Messi got to be given to him by our board too. I never said all those are facts

Messi got suspended sentence of 21 months which was replaced by a 252,000 euros fine for allegedly not paying taxes to the tune of 4.1m euros. Same Spanish authorities gave CR7 suspended sentence of 24 months and replaced it with a 13.1m euros fine for allegedly not paying taxes to the tune of 5.7m. Does that seem fair to you?

CR7 felt Flo and the board could have lessened the impact and have his back. Not pay off a fine for him. Whether that's doable, I don't know; but all evidence says Barca did same for Messi and he got a slap on the wrist rather than have to pay half of his annual wage as fine. I did not find any credible report that Barca paid Messi's fine either. 252K euros is Ibiza party cash for Messi.

If you're going to speculate, use available facts to do so.

By the way, saying tax is the main reason for him leaving is revisionist. There are several main reasons. But that is history now.


So when we win trophies the board shouldn't Be credited. the players and coaches should be but when we crash out of competitions then the board should take all the blame? okay

You tell me? You're the one making it seem like the 3-peat was due to the board's sporting acumen. So when I point out where the supposed acumen fell short, don't do reverse psychology. Every squad needs improvement whether they are winning or not. Zidane was able to extract as much as he could from the squad, and the squad gave it their all.

Which would you rather have, us coasting to La Liga trophy like Barca with their near-unbeaten run/Man City PL run; or us going to wire like we did in 2016/2017. 2017 was a statistical anomaly for us, evident by the fact that we hadn't won a double since donkey years. Then instead of us to build on that, they resolved to send players packing without due replacements and it showed in our 2017/2018 campaign.

Apparently learning no lessons from that; we are about to start another campaign after sending players packing without due replacements. Yet with these obvious errors from the board, you want to absolve them and give the players stick. It is deeply unfair to the players. The board makes things unnecessarily hard for them, yet when they do the unthinkable and make it work, the board gets hailed like they made the elixir; then when things don't work as they naturally shouldn't, they get lampooned by the apologetics.

This is the equivalence of sending soldiers to the fronts without adequate ammunition.

You guys make me laugh. you sound like Perez sits on his chair fiddling while thinking of how to make the club worse lol

So we should've signed Rodrigo or Icardi, right? because all that's involved in making any deal is Madrid. we just slam our fist at the clubs and gbam! the player is ours? lol. what if the club doesn't want to sell? Perez should hold the other club board at gunpoint to sign. what if the club agrees but the player doesn't want to come? Perez should threaten his family so he can sign. what if the club/player ask for unreasonable prices and wages? so Perez should pay cuz we have money.......

Like I told Yonce, you guys should've been the one there not Perez

Perez is a successful business man, but has negative sporting IQ. Icardi, Rodrigo, and Aspas could have been prized away from their respective clubs. Stop making it sound like rocket science. Yet he was making play for Neymar and Kane who were impossible to land.

Alisson fell through the cracks, Courtois is falling through the cracks, even Hazard who did everything except buying and wearing a customized RM jersey was ignored completely.

You're trying to make it seem like there's no decent striker that can serve as a backup to Benzema on the market. Our second GK is Casilla. F*cking Casilla who can't keep out a shot to save his life.

We should respect the board's decisions, they've earned it so far

I remember when we sold Oezil and most Madrid fans were angry at the club talking about how the sky would fall. Even Ronaldo himself said the sale made him angry or something. we won both UCL and Copa that season

Next season we sold Alonso and Di Maria. same fans were screaming at the board saying they're ruining the club. we went on a 22 game winning streak although injury to certain key players made the season end in a disaster

Next season, the board signed Zidane for coaching role the fanbase were also pessimistic saying Zidane is simply a stopgap measure, interim coach and he would be out of the club in six months (if he survives that long). they said the board is ruining the club and killing the status of a club legend. I'm sure many of such posts are on this very thread. That coach ended up staying for 2 and a half years, winning 3 straight UCL titles (more than Almighty Ferguson managed in his entire coaching career), a Laliga title, a supercopa title, 2 club world cup titles, 2 UEFA supercup titles and was regarded by many to be the best coach in the world during his reign.

The board have proved pessimistic fans wrong many times in the past that its time we start thinking they know what they're doing and there's a lot more that goes into running a club than what's being shown to us on match days or tweeted by certain journalists. until the disaster the pessimistic fans say would happen strikes I stand 100% with the board and even if the disaster strikes I have enough faith in our board's ability to weather that storm

I will not respect a st*pid decision. Using Benzema without any backup as a main striker this season is a st*pid decision. I don't care if we win a treble or not. It's a st*pid decision.

We sold Ozil and had one good season. Did you think that maybe if Ozil had stayed, we'd have won the treble?

We sold Di Maria and Alonso and lost out because we understandably lost depth. Then you turn around and talk about injuries? Maybe if they'd stayed, we'd have salvaged something out of the season.

You just seem to be making multiple excuses for heavily flawed decisions.

Zidane was already been groomed to take charge of the first team. He was rushed in because the board made a mess of the Benitez situation. Zidane was that successful because he made it a personal crusade to not let the board interfere with his plans, like they did with Benitez. Now, you're making it seem like it was a board masterstroke. Un-f*cking-believable!

Like we've all got amnesia and forgotten about the Navas debacle.

The board hasn't proven anyone wrong. They get a few things right then proceed to break a lot of things. Then when the stars align, they swoop in to take credit. When things don't go as planned, they identify scapegoats.

I'm calling it now. Things don't go as planned this season, I wouldn't fault any player or the coach. If things go as planned, I ain't giving the board any credit, because they've done f*ck all to improve our chances this season.

What happens if Benzema starts one of his goalless streaks? What happens if Bale gets injured? What happens if Navas gets injured? What happens if Isco, Asensio, and Casemiro have their off streaks like they do every season?

We have no contingency plans for these very real situations because the board is saving money for god knows what, yet you want us to prepare to give the board accolades after engineering a castle built on cards.

-Lord

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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ14ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by LordAdamX: 11:05am On Aug 04, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
Lordadamx

As an addendum

I noticed you deleted those parts of my post that talked about Casillas and Kaka. I think you too need to correct our fans too when they say wrong things rather than leave them to spread ignorance. You quoted Yonce's post but didn't correct at least Kaka.

This is part of why I said there's groupthink here. we try hard to avoid arguing with each other and let people run away with misconceptions and misinformation in the process

There's no groupthink to the fact that Real Madrid treats her legends like sh*t. Not using the right examples is inconsequential. The Casillas situation could have been handled better. Replace Kaka with Makelele and his point is still valid.

-Lord

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