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Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Chuksonyeike: 4:47pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
NgeneUkwenu:You are blatant liar. Okadigbo stepped down and a Senate president pro tempore was appointed who adjudicated over the allegations against him before he was indicted and duly impeached. PDP had overwhelming majority of over 80 senators and could easily get whatever they wanted |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by NgeneUkwenu(f): 4:47pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
9jatriot: Very easy , Get the impeachment letter ready before the resumption. Let every member of the APC in the Senate sign. Copy the Party Chairman. Every APC senator knows the implication of not signing an important letter like that, less than 1 month to the party primaries.. |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by FOLYKAZE(m): 4:49pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
Mynd44: Bros this is is the part where we disagree by the votes of not less than two-thirds majority of the members of that House. The emboldened is from the law you quoted. If Lawal was to mean business like I assumed, he will proceed on the impeachment process and let the court what the law mean by "two-thirds majority of the members of that house. Court will explain if that clause mean the ⅔ of the 109 members or ⅔ of the ⅓ sitted. By then he would have gone and the legal battle can go on. |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Antipob777(f): 4:51pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
As a patriotic Nigerian and a PDP supporter, I will advice saraki to step down honourably than to allow himself disgraced. No matter our rants here on NL saraki dies not have the powers now more than the APC. Let's call a spade a spade and an Axr an Axe. 1 Like |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Nobody: 4:52pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: You are saying that a house that has a membership of 109; all that is required to impeach the Senate President is 24 Senators? You guys should stop looking for impunity If you oust the Senate President without recourse to the true dictates of the constitution you are endorsing impunity and legitimising a coup de tat against this democracy itself. This kind of behaviour will only endorse a military takeover The Senate has 109 members, that number is not fluid. When the constitution says 2/3 majority of the members of that house in this case it is simply 73! Even 72 members is not enough to remove Saraki We are not a nation of mathematicians. Forget this BODMAS and IF logical statements you guys are trying to calculate. More so this matter has previously been tried in court and there are precedents! Again I warn you guys, be careful what you wish for. If you sack Saraki with impunity just know thst you are making mockery of democracy and endorsing the possibility of a coup de tat 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by NgeneUkwenu(f): 4:53pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
Mynd44: What did the constitution say about the election of the Senate President? Is the simple majority of the members present or the Simple majority of the entire Senate members? |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Mynd44: 4:56pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
NgeneUkwenu:The election of the senate president is different. He can win by a simple Majority 3 Likes |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Butterflyleo: 4:57pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
krendo: That is not what is said there. When saraki fraudulently became senate president what number got him in? He was brought in by 57 senators sitting at that time. Right now APC senators are 54 and all that is needed is all 54 sitting and 2/3 of that 54 passing an impeachment notice on him QED. That is the position of the law and you can keep arguing with your phone since you lack such knowledge |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Nobody: 4:57pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
Antipob777: Sorry dear this is not about PDP It is about the law If APC want to break the law and launch a coup against Saraki they should go ahead The man will not resign |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Chuksonyeike: 4:59pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
FOLYKAZE:Lol Who will go? You never learn anything |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Nobody: 5:00pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: So you don’t even realise that 57 is more than half of 109 which qualifies as simple majority in line with the law that governs election of presiding officers? In the senate We are trying to be a nation of laws This is the Senate of the Federal republic of Nigeria It has laws! It is not some village meeting! You can’t make up the law as you go along! |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by NgeneUkwenu(f): 5:00pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
Mynd44: Stop being clever by half! Is it simple majority of those Present or the entire members of the senate? Can the Senate carry out ANY (Emphasis Mine) Business of the day, when a quorum is duly formed? 1 Like |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Chuksonyeike: 5:00pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
NgeneUkwenu:Saraki was elected by simple majority of the entire members of the Senate.57 senators are more than half the entire 109 senators |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Butterflyleo: 5:01pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
Mynd44: Every senator is a member of the house and that brings ambiguity to that portion of the law. As long as all present are senators who by title are members of the house then a full house is not needed. All that is needed would be the 1/3 of the simple majority of the.members of the house present to form a quorum and 2/3 of the simple majority of the members of the house present to effect an impeachment |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Butterflyleo: 5:04pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
Chuksonyeike: You clearly do not understand what is being said |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Nobody: 5:05pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: The ambiguity only exist in your mind This matter is already settled in the court of law |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by NgeneUkwenu(f): 5:06pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
Chuksonyeike: First, he was selected by "Voice vote" of some members present? Second, he was selected by the members present. And he will be removed through the same process. |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Chuksonyeike: 5:06pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:That portion of the constitution is explicit. 2/3 members of the entire house |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Chuksonyeike: 5:08pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
NgeneUkwenu: Empty barrels make the loudest noise.Impeachment na by mouth lol 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Butterflyleo: 5:09pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
krendo: Nobody is making up the law. The law is self explanatory even as much as it is ambiguous in that section of the constitution. Such words as ALL should have made a huge difference but all it said was 2/3 majority of the members of the house. This also means that as long as the senators are present and are by title the members of the house, then 2/3 of those present can effect an impeachment as long as their number is the majority number compared to the number in the whole house. APC senators by now should be about 55 along wirh APGA senators on their side and that number forms a simple majority of the members of the house and all that is needed is 2/3 of that number to issue an impeachment. |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by FOLYKAZE(m): 5:09pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
krendo: Firstly, why do you guys resort to scare mongering whenever the table turns away from your side? You like every other PDP members always shout coup de tal on the top of your voice as if you and your vagabonds will execute the operation. This is political game that should be played with all legality and justice. Scaring us with rhetorics like Coup won't work. The constitution gave some grounds on how to elect and impeach the senate president. It stated that they can both be elected or impeached by the votes of not less than two-thirds majority of the members of that House. The question is what constitute members of the house? Is it the whole 109 members or of those present in the hallow chamber? That is a question only the COURT OF LAW and not PDP jobbers to interpret. Now, from the past, Saraki had exploited the law by getting himself into the Presidency seat by colluding with the PDP members and initiate an election while the majority members of APC were meeting with the president. He did this and got his way. APC should also take the same loophole and have him butted out. He will go to court but what matters is that he is gone. We've have cases where about 5 of thr senate members are dead. Should we wait till after the bye election of these dead members before we can proceed on impeachment? What in the case of when some members are sick or out of the country for some national assignment, going by your logic, we should wait for them to become healthy before the impeachment process can start? 2 Likes |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Butterflyleo: 5:10pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
Chuksonyeike: The portion said 2/3 MAJORITY of the members of the house. Not how you said it This simply means that as long as the numbers of those present exceed the number of those absent then those present can form a quorum and get 2/3 to effect an impeachment |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by olaotu1: 5:10pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
[s] NgeneUkwenu:[/s] the frustration is real |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by FOLYKAZE(m): 5:11pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
Chuksonyeike: Just watch |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by BlackPantherxXx: 5:20pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
olaotu1: Bloodykiller, cursedabiola, Isaabubakar, shakazullu, tigerclaws..you again ? You just registered this . Have they banned apanapiaigwe ? We have to get rid of rapists and pedophiles which is what you promote all the time NgeneUkwenu, please take note. Always report him for harassment. We got the mods to ban 5 out of the over 50 monikers he uses. He confessed he's an ex convict who was jailed for molesting a minor. 3 Likes |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by babytoun: 5:20pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
NgeneUkwenu: when simple Arithmetic is a problem ,how can you and Apc understand complex things like leading this nation? we have 109 senators .....when you subtract 57 tell me what is left |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Butterflyleo: 5:23pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
babytoun: Law is not mathematics. Law is language. The law stipulates 2/3 MAJORITY of the members of the house and not 2/3 OF ALL the members of the house |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Nobody: 5:27pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
babytoun: This is a serious problem and explains why the country is not working under APC They don’t understand simple Maths!!!! How can the number of the members of Senate be a variable? It’s a big FAT CONSTANT! |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Butterflyleo: 5:42pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
krendo: We try to explain it to you and you still refuse to learn. The total number of the senators are 109 Half if that number is roughly 54 A simple majority means 54 or above. Say 55 , 56, 57 senators present . That number becomes the simple majority of the members of the house. That simple majority forms a quorum because it is already above 1/3 of the total membership of the house and they then effect his impeachment with the votes of 2/3 of the simple majority present. This isn't hard to understand so just in case you are still struggling to understand what I just typed, then read it again. This is what Sagay is trying to say. |
Re: APC Senators: Stop Foot-dragging, Impeach Saraki Now! by Borderless: 5:52pm On Aug 10, 2018 |
NgeneUkwenu: Baba Oloye's matter has become gala on your head. Keep hawking it. |
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