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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by noobody(m): 3:50pm On Aug 31, 2018
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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by fibonacci2526: 3:51pm On Aug 31, 2018
gidieberry:
if xiaomi offer flagships with stock android in the form of android one and no flash sales for d Indian market coupled with their aggressive pricing policy, bliv me lotta Indians go defect even EU customers..
Oneplus fanbase is built on stock android coupled wif aggressive pricing for a flagship... Fanbase ain't like Apple or Sammy, i will say vulnerable


I agree, the pull OnePlus is enjoying is the near stock android experience. The day xiaomi launches a flagship with near stock Android with little customisations and global LTE bands, OnePlus would be in big trouble. As it is the Poco F1 is a big headache for them. Would be interesting how they will justify a price tag of $550 for the op6T as xiaomi were very wise in launching POCO this early basically undercutting all rivals.

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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by fibonacci2526: 3:54pm On Aug 31, 2018
Elxandre:

I think Xiaomi has that luxury of releasing phones anyhow cos they dont manufacture too many units without demand.
I mean they sell online mostly, so they can just manufacture the necessary number of units to fill just needed demand.


This is one of the way they cut cost and can give us these good phones at affordable rates.
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Gptech(m): 3:58pm On Aug 31, 2018
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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by pyrex23(m): 4:00pm On Aug 31, 2018
GrandMufti:

For now, no

what about redmi5
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Gptech(m): 4:01pm On Aug 31, 2018
Gtoyo:
Anyone with fairly used Xiaomi note 5pro?
I wanna buy. Thanks
Just do the tempting, you'll get what you want, how much are you willing to pay?
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by 2kurupt(m): 4:04pm On Aug 31, 2018
gidieberry:
if xiaomi offer flagships with stock android in the form of android one and no flash sales for d Indian market coupled with their aggressive pricing policy, bliv me lotta Indians go deflect even EU customers..
Oneplus fanbase is built on stock android coupled wif aggressive pricing for a flagship... Fanbase ain't like Apple or Sammy, i will say vulnerable

Correct. In addition to that OnePlus is only riding on the strength of its sister company OPPO which has a stronghold in China.

They can't really match Xiaomi's pricing and market segmentation strategy which is why their phones in recent times are not really as affordable unlike the early releases & also having very lean product portfolio
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Gptech(m): 4:06pm On Aug 31, 2018
macbeyland:


I think Gptech should be in a better position to advise you.
Saw similar stuff with a Redmi note 5a prime some days back, bootloader showing locked but when rebooting, it was showing unlocked. I already unlocked the bootloader some months back and was surprised to see it was showing locked when viewed from developer options. Well I still went ahead and rooted the phone since TWRP was already flashed, there shouldn't be a problem flashing customer roms too I believe, though haven't done any research regarding this.
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by frankyvalll(m): 4:10pm On Aug 31, 2018
Gtoyo:
Anyone with fairly used Xiaomi note 5pro? I wanna buy. Thanks
contact me i have one for sale
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by noobody(m): 4:19pm On Aug 31, 2018
but lets get sometin straight oo,i never compared oneplus to xiaomi,i said oneplus has a good business strategy,which is working great for them,

What i meant:a small company,produces limited amount of phones for a certain period,sells all they produce,no space for excess or wastage,6 months later comes out with another banging deal,the previous model wud be so so scarce and limited that the price wud even be expensive than there latest product.
By october now,oneplus sites wud start lacking supllies of oneplus 6,it wud be out of stock,its only resllers that wud hav fot sale at a crazy price,thats wen u know the 6tea is coming..

This has bin working very well for them.

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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by gidieberry(m): 4:20pm On Aug 31, 2018
fibonacci2526:



I agree, the pull OnePlus is enjoying is the near stock android experience. The day xiaomi launches a flagship with near stock Android with little customisations and global LTE bands, OnePlus would be in big trouble. As it is the Poco F1 is a big headache for them. Would be interesting how they will justify a price tag of $550 for the op6T as xiaomi were very wise in launching POCO this early basically undercutting all rivals.
i just hope Xiaomi's plans for poco will not emulate Oppo's Realme... Lets us imagine for once dt Poco f1 was released as an android one....

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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by 2kurupt(m): 4:23pm On Aug 31, 2018
Elxandre:

I think Xiaomi has that luxury of releasing phones anyhow cos they dont manufacture too many units without demand.
I mean they sell online mostly, so they can just manufacture the necessary number of units to fill just needed demand.

That's actually OnePlus' strategy. I think Xiaomi has moved past that.

Xiaomi intends not to exceed 5% annual profits for its hardware unit which includes mobile phones. When the 5% profit is attained, it intends to give back to the customers thru one way or the other. Herein lies the secret to Xiaomi's hyper rate of product introduction coupled with aggressive pricing.

So I believe this means Xiaomi can afford to even introduce a smartphone selling at its cost price to end-users provided it has exceeded its projected 5% profit margins for the year

SOURCE
https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/150e3d34-4875-11e8-8ee8-cae73aab7ccb

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/m.businesstoday.in/lite/story/xiaomi-limits-profit-margin-at-5/1/275635.html
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by genabc(m): 4:23pm On Aug 31, 2018
Thanks to noobody, my Mi A2 Lite got delivered today 14 days shipping via AliExpress. Told him I want 3/32rom but he got 4/32rom fr me, I really appreciate. Anyway, I love d stock Android display, so cool. The phone is well built, nice sound system. It takes cool pix and the notch screen is well encrypted.

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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by gidieberry(m): 4:25pm On Aug 31, 2018
noobody:


Oneplus core lovers wud never opt for any xiaomi device,that i can assure you.
this is why i quoted u... Oneplus aint Apple or Sammy i repeat, hence they are vulnerable..
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by fibonacci2526: 4:27pm On Aug 31, 2018
gidieberry:
i just hope Xiaomi's plans for poco will not emulate Oppo's Realme... Lets us imagine for once dt Poco f1 was released as an android one....


Would sell 50 times more.
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by 2kurupt(m): 4:31pm On Aug 31, 2018
noobody:
but lets get sometin straight oo,i never compared oneplus to xiaomi,i said oneplus has a good business strategy,which is working great for them,

What i meant:a small company,produces limited amount of phones for a certain period,sells all they produce,no space for excess or wastage,6 months later comes out with another banging deal,the previous model wud be so so scarce and limited that the price wud even be expensive than there latest product.
By october now,oneplus sites wud start lacking supllies of oneplus 6,it wud be out of stock,its only resllers that wud hav fot sale at a crazy price,thats wen u know the 6tea is coming..

This has bin working very well for them.

This strategy is well & good but restrictive and will only get them to a certain extent. If indeed they want to be world players then they must do brick and mortar stores.

This is why Xiaomi is now launching in Europe not just via online retailers but opening physical stores. Once they achieve striking a deal with major mobile network companies for phone contract deals in addition to complete regional bands, no other Chinese company will catch them.

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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by pyrex23(m): 4:36pm On Aug 31, 2018
Redmi 5 battery life on miui 9.6.3.0

Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by noobody(m): 4:39pm On Aug 31, 2018
gidieberry:
this is why i quoted u... Oneplus aint Apple or Sammy i repeat, hence they are vulnerable..

Xiaomi thread pls grin
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by noobody(m): 4:40pm On Aug 31, 2018
2kurupt:


This strategy is well & good but restrictive and will only get them to a certain extent. If indeed they want to be world players then they must do brick and mortar stores.

This is why Xiaomi is now launching in Europe not just via online retailers but opening physical stores. Once they achieve striking a deal with major mobile network companies for phone contract deals in addition to complete regional bands, no other Chinese company will catch them.

I guess thats why they are still a small company,
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by fibonacci2526: 4:42pm On Aug 31, 2018
2kurupt:


This strategy is well & good but restrictive and will only get them to a certain extent. If indeed they want to be world players then they must do brick and mortar stores.

This is why Xiaomi is now launching in Europe not just via online retailers but opening physical stores. Once they achieve striking a deal with major mobile network companies for phone contract deals in addition to complete regional bands, no other Chinese company will catch them.


I think OnePlus is still doing well as an online company but like you said they might need to reverse that idea long term. There is a rumor that they might be partnering with T-Mobile for the launch of OP6T which is a big deal to be honest.

We will sit back and watch how these OEMs fight tooth and nail, competition is good and long may it continue.
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by gidieberry(m): 4:48pm On Aug 31, 2018
noobody:

Xiaomi thread pls grin
n wah
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by gidieberry(m): 4:51pm On Aug 31, 2018
fibonacci2526:



I think OnePlus is still doing well as an online company but like you said they might need to reverse that idea long term. There is a rumor that they might be partnering with T-Mobile for the launch of OP6T which is a big deal to be honest.

We will sit back and watch how these OEMs fight tooth and nail, competition is good and long may it continue.
India is oneplus primary market, they have offline presence dia dou not as massive compared to xiaomi sef... I really wish dia deal with Tmobile will b hitch free
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by gidieberry(m): 4:59pm On Aug 31, 2018
noobody:


I guess thats why they are still a small company,
despite been a small company their business strategy as elaborated by u n corroborated by fibonacci2526 make sure they are keeping a healthy profit margin.. Wen u think of oems like Sony, HTC and LG as well, size wunt matter dt much...
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by noobody(m): 5:01pm On Aug 31, 2018
gidieberry:
despite been a small company their business strategy as elaborated by noobody n corroborated by fibonacci2526 make sure they are keeping a healthy profit margin.. Wen u think of oems like Sony, HTC and LG as well, size wunt matter dt much

Now u r getting my point,i didnt want to go fully into ecn terms,it wud sound like jargons to most,

As long as cost is bin covered,and deh r making profit,

The rest na story,

Thou i know dey aspire to go bigger,

But that level of playing field,mehn,odikwa risky oo grin

Even lg at point confessed,activities of smaller chinese companies don hurt there biz so so much,what is drill keeping samsung as kings till tmao is that they are innovative and giv you value for your 1k$ aka note 9 grin

That is the first 1k $ fone the whole world wud come togeda as a whole say it is worth there 1k,specs and build worth am die
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by gidieberry(m): 5:09pm On Aug 31, 2018
noobody:


Now u r getting my point,i didnt want to go fully into ecn terms,it wud sound like jargons to most,

As long as cost is bin covered,and deh r making profit,

The rest na story,

Thou i know dey aspire to go bigger,

But that level of playing field,mehn,odikwa risky oo grin

Even lg at point confessed,activities of smaller chinese companies don hurt there biz so so much,what is drill keeping samsung as kings till tmao is that they are innovative and giv you value for your 1k$ aka note 9 grin

That is the first 1k $ fone the whole world wud come togeda as a whole say it is worth there 1k,specs and build worth am die
to add futher, earlier this yr, LG mobile pulled out of china patapata.. Of recent, samsung market share in china is less dan 1% i think..
Android oems are suffering small cauz lotta players in a saturated market, Samsung is already at d pinnacle.. Oda oems have to b smart or else they might not even break even relating to cost n revenue
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by 2kurupt(m): 5:10pm On Aug 31, 2018
fibonacci2526:



I think OnePlus is still doing well as an online company but like you said they might need to reverse that idea long term. There is a rumor that they might be partnering with T-Mobile for the launch of OP6T which is a big deal to be honest.

We will sit back and watch how these OEMs fight tooth and nail, competition is good and long may it continue.

Lol @your last paragraph. Competition sweet I tell ya
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by 2kurupt(m): 5:13pm On Aug 31, 2018
gidieberry:
India is oneplus primary market, they have offline presence dia dou not as massive compared to xiaomi sef... I really wish dia deal with Tmobile will b hitch free

Why? You dey America? It'll be good for them though, OnePlus seem to be the only Chinese brand those Americans don't whine so much about.
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by gidieberry(m): 5:14pm On Aug 31, 2018
2kurupt:


Lol @your last paragraph. Competition sweet I tell ya
long live competition
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by HenriFayol(m): 5:14pm On Aug 31, 2018
genabc:
Thanks to noobody, my Mi A2 Lite got delivered today 14 days shipping via AliExpress. Told him I want 3/32rom but he got 4/32rom fr me, I really appreciate. Anyway, I love d stock Android display, so cool. The phone is well built, nice sound system. It takes cool pix and the notch screen is well encrypted.
How much
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by gidieberry(m): 5:17pm On Aug 31, 2018
2kurupt:


Why? You dey America? It'll be good for them though, OnePlus seem to be the only Chinese brand those Americans don't whine so much about.
if Oneplus start selling officially in US, dey cnt really make a dent in Apple n Sammy market duopoly.. I go like see how they scale thru wif patent trolls n security issues

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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by 2kurupt(m): 5:22pm On Aug 31, 2018
noobody:


Now u r getting my point,i didnt want to go fully into ecn terms,it wud sound like jargons to most,

As long as cost is bin covered,and deh r making profit,

The rest na story,

Thou i know dey aspire to go bigger,

But that level of playing field,mehn,odikwa risky oo grin

Even lg at point confessed,activities of smaller chinese companies don hurt there biz so so much,what is drill keeping samsung as kings till tmao is that they are innovative and giv you value for your 1k$ aka note 9 grin

That is the first 1k $ fone the whole world wud come togeda as a whole say it is worth there 1k,specs and build worth am die

Good points there. Plz lemme digress, talking about the $1k flagship I've been wondering with the steady upward review of flagship retail prices, how further can the OEMs really go? Especially with midrange & upper midrange getting better and better on each release.

Projections show that flagship sales are declining in favour of the 2 sub-tiers. This I think is why LG and HTC are badly hit since they hardly have a midsection in their product portfolio.

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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by noobody(m): 5:28pm On Aug 31, 2018
2kurupt:


Good points there. Plz lemme digress, talking about the $1k flagship I've been wondering with the steady upward review of flagship retail prices, how further can the OEMs really go? Especially with midrange & upper midrange getting better and better on each release.

Projections show that flagship sales are declining in favour of the 2 sub-tiers. This I think is why LG and HTC are badly hit since they hardly have a midsection in their product portfolio.

Yes you are right,that is why samsung keeps going the extra mile to make there prices worth it....

And dey wud need to do more next year

But still,a flagship experience is like no other,

Pray somone doesnt lend u his samsung s9+ to use for a week grin

You wud ask,abeg wetin be xiaomi sef grin

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