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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Jokerman(m): 4:17pm On Sep 01, 2018
Most of these doctors are actually Hypocrites... buh from my encounters with doctors, there's less ego when they see you know what you doing...

Doctors in Govt hospitals need to change their attitude to work and patients... please know you aren't the only professionals in the country... if other professionals start acting the way y'all act, things won't work out for everyone.. especially those at LUTH, UBTH etc....
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by enemyofprogress: 4:17pm On Sep 01, 2018
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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by kingsmaila(m): 4:17pm On Sep 01, 2018
We do not pray to fall seek but the way and manner Nigeria Doctors handle health issues baffles me. In short there is no emergency case in Nigeria hospitals. No need for emergency unit as it doesn't exist in medically.
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by anonymuz(m): 4:18pm On Sep 01, 2018
SUPERPACK:
what goes around comes back around, one day that same doctor or his wife will be in same situation and the doctors on duty will make same demand, to them they have health immunity.
amen
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by mzwriters: 4:20pm On Sep 01, 2018
We cannot outrightly blame d doctor because d patient in such critical condition requires a lot to stabilize and do investigation. the kind of private hospitals described by op cannot be that equipped to attend to major emergency like head injuries, fractures and unconscious patients etc just bruises. my opinion though



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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by LordIsaac(m): 4:21pm On Sep 01, 2018
Nigerians are copycats in everything and can never get things right. These ones doing watsapp during lecture would later call themselves ɗoctors. Let's just praƴ we ɗo not get into emergency and pray more for the means to get out of this country. You can only enjoƴ sanity in saner climes.
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Jaqenhghar: 4:21pm On Sep 01, 2018
dermmy:
In Nigeria na money count. Nigerian doctors don't care about hippocratic oath.They only care about hipopotamus salary grin
Oga I beg to disagree. See even with your money Niggerian doctors will fúck you up. I buried my mum this year. There is nothing they asked us to bring that we didnt bring no test that we didnt run no money that we didnt bring. For 3 months they couldnt make a simple diagnosis. Her condition went from manageable to critical. I say 3 months and they cant make diagnosis till today of you ask me what killed the poor woman I can only tell you the symptoms.
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Jaqenhghar: 4:22pm On Sep 01, 2018
SUPERPACK:
what goes around comes back around, one day that same doctor or his wife will be in same situation and the doctors on duty will make same demand, to them they have health immunity.
Amen.
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Drinkwater(m): 4:22pm On Sep 01, 2018
Y'all stressing over BS. I thought I saw a thread like this earlier.
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Ken4agent(m): 4:23pm On Sep 01, 2018
SUPERPACK:
what goes around comes back around, one day that same doctor or his wife will be in same situation and the doctors on duty will make same demand, to them they have health immunity.

I wish the op has the 2Hospital names....we would have help them wash their dirty cloths on SM for other slowpoke Hospital to learn lesson
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Jaqenhghar: 4:23pm On Sep 01, 2018
Ken4agent:


I wish the op has the 2Hospital names....we would have help them wash their dirty cloths on SM for other slowpoke Hospital to learn lesson
Abi
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Drinkwater(m): 4:23pm On Sep 01, 2018
Y'all stressing over BS. I thought I saw a thread like this earlier
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by id4sho(m): 4:23pm On Sep 01, 2018
Jaqenhghar:

Oga I beg to disagree. See even with your mney Niggerian doctors will fúck you up. I buried my mum this year. There is nothing they asked us to bring that we didnt bring no test that we didnt run no money that we didnt bring. For 3 months theu couldnt make a simple diagnosis. Her condition went from manageable to critical. I say 3 months and they cant make diagnosis till today of you ask me what killed the poor woman I can only tell you the symptoms.
Hardluck brother, this ehn. hope it's not teaching hospitals.
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by freshvine(f): 4:24pm On Sep 01, 2018
private clinics are business centres, they don't care. its all about your money. if you're sick, go to gov't hospitals for proper treatment and avail yourself of several professionals there.

i use private for birthing kids only!

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by jamace(m): 4:25pm On Sep 01, 2018
murphyibiam15:
another doctor bashing thread..

when will u all talk about the rude banker to the rude office attendants and your rude self too..self righteousness everywhere .
No professional negligence is spared on Nairaland, not even NL moderators. grin grin.

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by NoToPile: 4:26pm On Sep 01, 2018
What I find confusing is the 'he doesn't accept bank transfer part' abi am I the only one who saw that?
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Jaqenhghar: 4:26pm On Sep 01, 2018
id4sho:

Hardluck brother, this ehn. hope it's not teaching hospitals.
It is O.
We started from private they referred us to Teaching hospital. We saw like 2 consultants .... when we saw they didnt know what they were doing we decided to fly her out. My cousin another yeye doctor kept saying its not that bad and the hospital is capable. Na the grace of God no allow me rush am at the funeral
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by ruffhandu: 4:27pm On Sep 01, 2018
Are you sure those know what to even do?
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by udemzyudex(m): 4:28pm On Sep 01, 2018
sainty2k3:

That same doctor can not rush to a pharmacy and get the emergency drugs on credit not to talk of getting it free. The issue about Doctors and emergency cases is like this can only be resolved with good health insurance scheme. Probably all they need to do is to scan the man's finger print , get him treated and the Insurance coy pays the bill.
If the doctor treat 3 emergencies and no one pay him. How will you ensure that you still meet that Hospital there in the nearest future

Pls always read and understand before you post nonsense, if you find it difficult to comprehend the message look for someone that will summarise it for you.

The man wanted to pay with pos or bank transfer but they refuse to accept it.

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by klbakare(m): 4:28pm On Sep 01, 2018
ChiefSweetus:

U wan promote am? See as u dey ask like General.
Idiòt grin

If I say make I slap u ehn cheesy
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by udemzyudex(m): 4:29pm On Sep 01, 2018
murphyibiam15:
another doctor bashing thread..

when will u all talk about the rude banker to the rude office attendants and your rude self too..self righteousness everywhere .

What's stopping you from creating a thread on that?

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Jaqenhghar: 4:29pm On Sep 01, 2018
ruffhandu:
Are you sure those know what to even do?
They dont know what they are doing. A foreign based doctor told me he said when working with Niggerian doctors that migrated to UK , he said the only thing they are good at is quoting what they crammed from books.
My advice is if you find yourself sick in Niggeria go and write your will or fly abroad .

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by columbus007(m): 4:29pm On Sep 01, 2018
dermmy:
In Nigeria na money count. Nigerian doctors don't care about hippocratic oath.They only care about hipopotamus salary grin
Lol,now this is so funny.

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Chartey(m): 4:30pm On Sep 01, 2018
Why is nobody seeing what I'm seeing?
Let's forget about the doctor-bashing for a second.
The OP is a military man.
Any military or paramilitary man that doesn't know simple lifesaving first aid like "pack/pressure/elevate" and primary survey is a useless military man.
Any military that has soldiers like the OP that can't do first aid but can harass civilians is a useless military.
Any country that its citizens don't recognise this fact is a useless country.

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by IamaNigerianGuy(m): 4:31pm On Sep 01, 2018
Dear OP. The problem lies with your system and the people that run it, not the doctor's. Go and face your political masters

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by NobodyKnows(m): 4:31pm On Sep 01, 2018
SUPERPACK:
what goes around comes back around, one day that same doctor or his wife will be in same situation and the doctors on duty will make same demand, to them they have health immunity.
Lol
Life doesn’t work that way .
That saying is bullshit .

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by chinene1(f): 4:33pm On Sep 01, 2018
Abeg what does this mean? You are trying to justify the reason why the life of someone was cut short. Did you read where the man offered to deposit money for his treatment? What hospital does not have a bank account.? Why insist on cash deposit? May you never find yourself in this situation. I agree with the op, Nigerian doctors don't value the life of their patients even their fellow doctors and nurses. A woman, a nurse in a particular private hospital in Lagos lost her child because of the doctor's negligence. The same hospital she works in. I was doing my IT then with the intention of reading a Master's degree in the medical sciences. That singular event changes my decision. If they can't take care of the people they see everyday, I am not surprised they treat strangers as they please.
Baxk to the topic. No matter what, his family would have come looking for him and no matter what no amount of money can be worth a life. The whole process is f**ked up. As a doctor, you could have administered first aid, stabilize the patient and then start the wahala of collecting payment. I hope what the doctor did comes back to hunt him. I hope for everyone who could have helped another human being but decided to choose money instead be paid back in their own coin.

sainty2k3:

That same doctor can not rush to a pharmacy and get the emergency drugs on credit not to talk of getting it free. The issue about Doctors and emergency cases is like this can only be resolved with good health insurance scheme. Probably all they need to do is to scan the man's finger print , get him treated and the Insurance coy pays the bill.
If the doctor treat 3 emergencies and no one pay him. How will you ensure that you still meet that Hospital there in the nearest future

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by mercy87(f): 4:36pm On Sep 01, 2018
murphyibiam15:
another doctor bashing thread..

when will u all talk about the rude banker to the rude office attendants and your rude self too..self righteousness everywhere .


A rude banker, a rude officer and his rude self are not life and death matters. We are talking about life. Saving a life brought in an emergency situation. Those ones are quite different but when you are talking life people ought to be more humane and empathic. Shebi the man don die. He offered to use POS and transfer ooo
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by phase1: 4:37pm On Sep 01, 2018
Space kept.
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by columbus007(m): 4:38pm On Sep 01, 2018
d33types:
Copied...

I am a Nigerian doctor, and I work in Nigeria.

I have been on call, 24/7 for the last 365 days, no weekends no leave. Why? Because the community hospital where I work in cannot afford to pay many doctors at the same time. Why? Because the patients cannot afford to pay for basic healthcare services. Why? Because the economy is bad. And if they can't pay, how can you give them QUALITY healthcare?

I handle emergencies with rechargeable lanterns.

I site intravenous lines with my phone torchlight.

I consult in a room with no fan, let alone an A.C, and I am expected to rack my brains and make diagnoses, even though I see a large number of patients within a short period of time.

I have had to operate on patients with phone torchlights.

I have had to improvise an incubator with a CARTON for a premature baby.

I have had to use a suction bulb, instead of an AMBU bag or an oxygen delivery apparatus, to resuscitate a baby.

I have had to use 5 ml syringe to resuscitate a patient in shock because there was no infusion set [compare this to using a spoon to fill a bucket with water]

I have practiced for 3 years but my bank account doesn't reflect it. Why? Most of my patients are poor and I am forced to pay for their treatment. Fact!

I have managed diabetic crises without hourly RBS, let alone tests like SEUCr [compare this to sailing without a compass, or flying without a radar]

In the western world, CT scans, MRI, ECGs are obtainable in the emergency department. Largely because there's an effective health insurance scheme. But here, my patients can't afford 3 square meals, they cant even do low cost tests like FBC, MP and PCV [each of which costs approximately #500], so how can they afford CT scans and MRIs, most of which costs as much as 50k to 80k for a single test.

How do you want me to diagnose them right when I cannot do these tests to confirm my diagnosis? By magic or clairvoyance?

I am faced with these daunting challenges. And I am faced with two choices: to watch them die, or to use my brain, my raw clinical acumen, and improvise to make ends meet. Most times I get it right. But sometimes, who knows, I may not. Why? Because I am no fucking "mutant X". I got no x-ray vision! Neither do I have a magic wand.

So next time before anyone compares me, or any other Nigerian doctor, with the average doctor in the western world who has all kinds of " medical toys" at his beck and call, the person should do well to bring such a person and place him on a 24/7, 365 days call in this shitty hell hole and compare his mortality rate with mine. Only then can we have this talk.

Yes, there are incompetent Nigerian doctors [ I am working on an article on that ], but so there is in any other profession, both in Nigeria and in the west. Yes, even in the Western world! John Hopkins recently published a study which revealed that the third commonest cause of death in the U.S of A, 3rd only to Cancer and Heart disease, is doctors' error! That is in the United States.

So, contrary to what we may think, "misdiagnosis", "negligence", "incompetence" is not peculiar to "Nigerian doctors".

We should stop blaming "Nigerian health care workers" and fix our system. The government has a lot of work to do. And until we do that, it would be unfair, perhaps inhuman, to compare our health indices with that of the western world, and to blame our healthcare workers for supposed "incompetence", when it falls short of what is obtainable in the western world.

I want a situation where there's an effective health insurance scheme in place, where the average man in the street can afford basic healthcare delivery, where I can run as much lab investigations as I want without being afraid that the patient may not be able to afford it, where every patient has an ECG monitor by his bed side, where I can do CTs and MRIs even before taking full history, where I wouldn't have to improvise incubators with cartons, where I wouldn't have to operate with phone torchlights, where ......

This is what I want. But I don't have that luxury. So I try my best to make ends meet in order to save lives. You should really take a walk in my shoes.

I am a Nigerian doctor, I work under impossible conditions and still generate positive results. I walk with my head held high.

Hoo-yah! #copied
mehn,God why are we here,why are we here in this god forsaken country, were is God?has he travelled or something, i need someone to answer me,kill all this leaders,end it all,end some part of this world.

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by ruffhandu: 4:40pm On Sep 01, 2018
Jaqenhghar:

They dont know what they are doing. A foreign based doctor told me he said when working with Niggerian doctors that migrated to UK , he said the only thing they are good at is quoting what they crammed from books.
My advice is if you find yourself sick in Niggeria go and write your will or fly abroad .
I know, you are not wrong. The few that know what to do are passionate with their job. The earlier people understand what a career is about, the better.

Even with an offer of payment, he still insisted on cash, meaning he just didn't want to touch the patient.
And, do you know most of them don't even feel anything when a patient dies in their hands?

Woe is he who has hope on Nigerian doctors.

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