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Ooni of Ife Honored by Brazil's government

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OezfLVW4aM

Ooni of Ife Visits Oldest African Temple in Brazil

We the Afojans!!! best tribe in nigeria

Wow! This is a proud achievement... Èyí máà yááyì ooooo... Èdè Yoruba dún púpò#ó se é ko,#ó se é kà# èdè kan šošo tóó ní àpónlé nínú# a máa yéni yéké.
Ó yá! Èyin omo Yòrùbá àtàtà, ojù yin dà?





I'm proudly Yòrùbá

While Igbo people are trying tooth and nail to forge a link with Israel, Canada or anything that has white skin, the white skin are the ones establishing links with the Yoruba.

Igbo should jettison inferiority complex and accept who they are: African, black African at that.

Nice one!!


Check my sign and make 40k monthly

wowcatty:
Who cares about what your intentions are! Are you not igbo, a people who would rather die than say the truth? This kind of topics are not for you, it's ATARI AJANAKU TI KII S'ERU OMODE. When the people with good intentions show interest, you can take note and follow the convo from the side.

Rambling a whole lot of drivel as usual instead of answering a simple question. I didn't come here for a tribal battle. You'll find plenty of like-minded cretins to indulge in that juvenile pastime. I simply saw you assert something I found interesting and wanted to know if you could substantiate the claim. But you refused to engage because you know you were talking utter bollocks out of your arse.

mrjaydee:
Yoruba Amaka beautiful people.

Igbo kwenu

mrjaydee:
Yoruba Amaka beautiful people.

As slaves sold in diaaporia, they form a colony

Lekkigists do you hvae any idea what "Official Language" means?

Dr Sérgio Sá leitão at the weekend in Brazil that the government has introduced the compulsory study of African History and Yoruba language into the primary and secondary schools curriculum.


Wow! wow! wow! wow!.... This means every CHILD in primary and secondary schools in Brazil compulsoryly must offer YORUBA as a language .no alternative to this. This is another Joseph ( Yoruba ) in disguise becoming a king I Egypt ( BRAZIL ). wow! glory b to God

longjon:
You dey mind these illiterates . The article clearly said Yoruba was recognized as a FOREIGN language . Leave them to their chest beating

Bros celebrate with your neighbours when they succeed in life so that your own too can come didn't u read where it was boldly written in d article that ...................Dr Sérgio Sá leitão at the weekend in Brazil that the government has introduced the compulsory study of African History and Yoruba language into the primary and secondary schools curriculum......This means every CHILD in primary and secondary schools in Brazil compulsoryly must offer YORUBA as a language .no alternative to this. HOW MANY FOREIGN OR EVEN ANY OF THE BRAZILIAN LANGUAGES IS MADE COMPULSORY IN BRAZILIAN EDUCATION SYSTEM? THIS IS WOW ONCE AGAIN GLORY B TO GOD!

johnmattew:
while modern yoruba people, especially those in lagos are adopting British English and phonetics as their language

low self-esteem of Nigerians stinks


irony of life

what's your business? must you start point fingers. its only evitable that such should occur in Brazil because the slaves there were predominantly from the Yoruba kingdom. Yoruba people were Sold as slaves to the Portuguese in huge shipments . so its no big deal that it should be included in a multicultural society like Brazil. however Portuguese still remains the official and first language before any other languages in Brazil.

a wonderful thread that people of African decent should be proud of. yet they turn it into a tribalistic bashing . I'm ashamed of being black and an African.

ike007:
what's your business? must you start point fingers. its only evitable that such should occur in Brazil because the slaves there were predominantly from the Yoruba kingdom. Yoruba people were Sold as slaves to the Portuguese in huge shipments . so its no big deal that it should be included in a multicultural society like Brazil. however Portuguese still remains the official and first language before any other languages in Brazil.

MY FRIEND IS NOT JUST ABOUT SLAVE THING ,WAS YORUBA TRIBE THE ONLY TRIBE EXPORTED TO BRAZIL? WHY AREN'T THE LANGUAGES OF OTHER ENSLAVED TRIBES THRIVING SO GREATLY LIKE YORUBAS? IT HAS TO DO WITH CHARACTER ..CHARACTER...CHARACTER.. YORUBAS ARE SO GIFTED WITH CHARISMATIC WISDOM THAT THEY WILL MAKE U ACCEPT WHAT THEY WANT WITHOUT NECESSARILY FORCING U OR USING VIOLENCE! I BELIEVE CHARISMA IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAD KEPT THAT LANGUAGE FROM GOING INTO EXTINCTION IN BRAZIL AND OTHER PLACES, EVEN IN THEIR CONSTANT DAILY GREETINGS THIS CHARISMA THING SHOWS.... glory b to God for this once again! wow!

strenghtt:
MY FRIEND IS NOT JUST ABOUT SLAVE THING ,WAS YORUBA TRIBE THE ONLY TRIBE EXPORTED TO BRAZIL? WHY AREN'T THE LANGUAGES OF OTHER ENSLAVED TRIBES THRIVING SO GREATLY LIKE YORUBAS? IT HAS TO DO WITH CHARACTER ..CHARACTER...CHARACTER.. YORUBAS ARE SO GIFTED WITH CHARISMATIC WISDOM THAT THEY WILL MAKE U ACCEPT WHAT THEY WANT WITHOUT NECESSARILY FORCING U OR USING VIOLENCE! I BELIEVE CHARISMA IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAD KEPT THAT LANGUAGE FROM GOING INTO EXTINCTION IN BRAZIL ANDOTHER PLACES. glory b to God for this once again! wow!

oh no doubt my friend Yoruba's are very charismatic and outspoken . And of cause they weren't the only ones sold and shipped to Brazil. but if you read what I said carefully, I said they were the predominant slaves over there in Brazil. and moreover there are some other languages that have been put into the Brazilian culture of learning too. not just Yoruba. people of Yoruba decent are part of the multicultural society of brazil , so also are others.

[quote author=Hopebringer post=71115668]That's a good development[/quote

Correct people

ike007:
what's your business? must you start point fingers. its only evitable that such should occur in Brazil because the slaves there were predominantly from the Yoruba kingdom. Yoruba people were Sold as slaves to the Portuguese in huge shipments . so its no big deal that it should be included in a multicultural society like Brazil. however Portuguese still remains the official and first language before any other languages in Brazil.

oversabi, why are u arguing with urself?

A very misleading title! From what is actually written there, Brazil government is only purported to have introduced Yoruba language as one of languages to be studied in school but the idiot who wrote this made it look as if Yoruba language is made official language!

totit:
That ng..bati is going global while your chidifuro,chichiku,mmbanu cave language is no where to be found

You must be an ibochristian ...always filled with envy and jealousy.

I'm neither a rubbish igbochriatian cos I dunno wat da 4k that is nor im I a jaw dropping -mouth opened ofonja, just relax.

Naijazeus:
Just as Osu Muslims are talking with long mouth

Lmao!exactly my fellow lazynigerian...all people na d same mumu we be.

Hotfreeze:
Yes.

And by that time, Igbo language would be extinct as predicted by Unicef and agreed by Ohaneze.

Igbos would be scattered all around the world without an identity of their own. That's what has been happening to Igbos over the ages and that's why you have no history and no future.

yes! Na so dem want am, igbo ppl no get sense for unity na. Wetin kwansan mi sef? Mtcheww

BrokenCock:
I'm neither a rubbish igbochriatian cos I dunno wat da 4k that is nor im I a jaw dropping -mouth opened ofonja, just relax.

Your state of mind and reasoning ( from what I have seen here) is as rough and disorganise as your mentions. What's this junk and rubbish you piled up there? WFT is these jargons and afonja?

Lmao

Mtcheew for ibochristians.

9c recognition 2 dis country, 4gt abt tribal ish in dis country, we ar 1.......United we stand
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congrats 2 Yoruba lecturers, teachers nd Scholars.........pls dnt 4gt home if u ar called
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Me Nigeria 2b proud

You this dumb loser need to stop bitching cos you can't get a hit on a golden religion the kind your progenitors couldn't put 1% of it together in 1,000 lifetimes. When has your kind ever asked a question without reducing it to a mess? You must be out of your rabid ass mind to think I would bring Ifa to a pig pen denizen like you. Just go about parroting propaganda as you have been doing.
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Obi1kenobi:
Rambling a whole lot of drivel as usual instead of answering a simple question. I didn't come here for a tribal battle. You'll find plenty of like-minded cretins to indulge in that juvenile pastime. I simply saw you assert something I found interesting and wanted to know if you could substantiate the claim. But you refused to engage because you know you were talking utter bollocks out of your arse.

wowcatty:
You this dumb loser need to stop bitching cos you can't get a hit on a golden religion the kind your progenitors couldn't put 1% of it together in 1,000 lifetimes. When has your kind ever asked a question without reducing it to a mess? You must be out of your rabid ass mind to think I would bring Ifa to a pig pen denizen like you. Just go about parroting propaganda as you have been doing.
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I didn't ask you to "bring Ifa to me", you window-licking reetard? I simply asked for the source of your claim that "Ifa is the 2nd religion in the world" - whatever that is supposed to mean. I don't give a shiit what the Ifa tradition is all about. I'm merely asking for substantiation of your claim.

Herrnit:
This article is very suspicious and untrue. Nigerians suffer from lack of knowledge and information.

1) This news is only carried by Nigerian media (known to make up false stories). This news isn't verifiable by any foreign media beyond the few Nigerian websites that carry it.

2) A quick look at the official list of Brazillian languages still does not list Yoruba as one of them. Why are Nigerian journalists so quick to create false articles?

3) There was no transatlantic slavery in the 13th century. Slavery started 2 centuries later - in the 15th century (around 1460) and with that Yorubas slaves did not participate in slavery until around 1640 and they began to appear in justifiable numbers towards the end of slavery in the 18 century, coinciding with the period slavery was abolished by the British and the ongoing Oyo-Dahomey war at that time. Yoruba slaves were mostly spoils of the ongoing war between Oyo vs Dahomey after slavery was abolished and were among the last group of tribes to arrive in the new world in substantial numbers, thus explains why their religious practice survived the most. Slavery was abolished worldwide by the British in 1833 and despite the abolishment, French and Portuguese slave traders continued to illegally purchase slaves from Africa to ship to Latin America (Brazil, Cuba etc). The Oyo vs Dahomey wars were at its peak (between 1851 and 1864) and with the Dahomey warriors (mostly women) invading several Yoruba towns and capturing almost all of its inhabitants in entirety and selling them off to the last slave buyers on the slavery scene - the Portuguese and French, Yoruba slaves continued to be shipped in substantial numbers to Brazil and Cuba especially much until the 1860s. An entire Yoruba village would be wiped out and most of the natives transported to the new world together with their chief priest, their mini gods etc. For example, the case of Ketu in Benin Republic or the village of Ajayi Crowther which was completely emptied by invading Dahomey slave raiders and Ajayi exported into slavery. The British soon got wind of this illegal slavery taking place by the French and Portuguese and made efforts to intercept slave ships leaving the shores of Africa for Latin America. The British successfully intercepted a few slave ships from Bight of Benin (containing Yoruba slaves) and the captives were freed and dumped in Freetown, Sierra Leone (the Saros, think of Tiwa Savage, Desmond Elliott, Ajayi Crowther etc). These group of Yoruba slaves never made it out of the shores of Africa. Because they were sold after slavery had been abolished, their memories of home was still strong and a good number of Yoruba slaves found their way back to Lagos (the Agudas/Brazilian territory in Lagos, the Saros).

4) Slave conditions after slavery had been abolished had improved greatly and the arriving Yoruba slaves found themselves in conditions more like servants instead of slaves - they had much greater freedom to keep their names, speak their language, practice their religion and faced much less acculturation compared to slaves who arrived at the peak of slavery (1750 to 1820) who had their names, language and culture forcefully stripped from them and forced to work under terrible conditions. Infact up until early 1900s, there were still some Nago (Yoruba) native speakers in Brazil and the question we should be asking is, why didn't Yoruba language survive in Latin America as a living language (by living it is used regularly at home, at school, at the market place etc) given the favorable conditions they found themselves in when they arrived Brazil and Cuba?

5) The survival of Yoruba religious practices was a matter of favorable times and conditions. Yoruba slaves in Latin America experienced the least cultural stripping and acculturation compared to slaves that arrived in the previous centuries.

6) Ifa religion is a Nigerian cultural heritage in Latin America and has become a religion to its adherents (afro descendants who wish to reconnect with their African heritage) who are not necessarily Yoruba by genetic ancestry but participate in the religion. Congolese slaves and Angolan slaves and even Igbo/Efik/Ibibio slaves were shipped to Brazil and Cuba and it would be wrong to assume all Ifa adherents to be Yoruba because they practice the religion. A good number of them may just be of Congolese or Angolan ancestry who practice Ifa. Just as it would be wrong to call Igbo Catholics in Nigeria Romans because they practice Roman Catholicism that originated in Rome.
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7) Up until the 2000s it was erroneously believed that the Yorubas slaves were the most sold owing to the survival of Ifa religion in Brazil and Cuba, however slave census and ship records show that no more than 460,000 Yoruba slaves actually left the Bight of Benin. Subtracting the substantial number made it back to Lagos (Agudas) and those that were rerouted to Sierra Leone (Saros) in Africa, thus the final number settling in Latin America and contributing to the gene pool of afro-descended blacks in Latin America and North America would be around 300,000 to 350,000.

8.) Ifa religion is no where close to being the 2nd largest in the world. A terrible joke played by the author.

9) The title of this article seems like a wish to come true by the author (who is Yoruba) of it which is far from realizable because the use of Yoruba in Brazil is more like a liturgical language used only during Ifa service just as Latin is often used by the Roman Catholic Church in Nigeria but all Catholics barely understand nor speak it after church service. Most Ifa adherents memorize the words/lyrics and sing it from heart. Yoruba language is extinct in Brazil (i.e it has no native speakers who speak it from birth) and thus is far far from being recognized in Brazil.

I just didn't want this well researched and articulated write up to finish....

johnmattew:
oversabi, why are u arguing with urself?

epa I'm just expressing to the learned. Not to you sir

ike007:
epa I'm just expressing to the learned. Not to you sir

I don't need it....I already knew about Bahia region in Brazil and it's african-catholicism/africanism and other carribbbean regions Iike cuba,barbados etc and their Santeria religion.....and Gullah speaking Americans.

Whoever told you this slimy chump that you can put your mouth in every topic you hear or see got you real good. Who the hell are you to ask me to substantiate anything? While I stand by my statement on Ifa being #2 religion, this topic is not down for gutter where you belong, and like I told you earlier, diamond is not for you pigs. Ifa is too golden for your animal touch, reason your fathers were still dangling upside down on trees and collecting bananas from Yoruba tourists when Ifa was already a religion of the world.

Obi1kenobi:
I didn't ask you to "bring Ifa to me", you window-licking reetard? I simply asked for the source of your claim that "Ifa is the 2nd religion in the world" - whatever that is supposed to mean. I don't give a shiit what the Ifa tradition is all about. I'm merely asking for substantiation of your claim.