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MariaLavina:
Hello there!

GrammarNazi1:
Hi.
It's been a long time.

Firebomber:
I could remember the day you list one Christian terrorist organization and i list over 100 of Islamic terrorist organization.

Did you know what your reply was then?

Premiumwriter:
Humans again and our endless struggle to give meaning to our meaningless life.

Man is an animal. We have no spirit, we have no soul.

When we die, we decay like every other animal out there.

"there's no knowledge in the grave where thou goest"

The spirit of God is the breathe in our nostrils and when he takes it, we cease to live.

That's if you believe in religion. Remember the story of the valley of dry bones?

When the bones where resurrected, God did not ask Jeremiah to put his spirit within them to make them alive, rather he asked him to call to the four winds of the earth. When the wind gets into them, they were all made alive.

Also, why is there no record of Lazarus experiences of the afterlife in the Bible, I mean he was dead for four days before Jesus resurrected him, if truly we go to heaven or hell after we die, Lazarus must have gone somewhere, and should have recounted his experience.

Or how about the man that died and Elisha bones brought to life or the boy and girl Jesus brought to life or the the widow Peter brought to life, why is it that none have any knowledge of their experience in heaven or hell?

Because there's no knowledge in the grave. When we die, we perish.

If you believe in the Bible, then according to it, you will be resurrected on the last day to face heaven or hell, not a day after.

Mary said to Jesus, "I know my brother will be resurrected again on the day of judgment" (paraphrased)

Please let's be guided and through search the scriptures.

And secondly, hell is not forever. Search the Bible for yourself and see.

I think I'll need to create a thread on this.

gentlegenius:
Chairman... It is easier for Bill Gates with his philanthropy to Make heaven than for you who only believe in Jesus to make it.
The Bible says that faith without 'work' is dead. Whether you agree or not, philanthropy is the most acceptable form of this 'work'.
The same Jesus said that "whatsoever you do to the least of your brethren, that, you do unto me". This shows that you can do other kinds of good works without doing it for God, but once your good works involves helping the least(poorest) among your people, you are doing it directly to God, and because of this, Jesus will tell you on that day "Come and inherit the kingdom prepared for you... For I was hungry you give me to eat, I was thirsty you give me to drink..."(Matthew 25:34-35).

Now if you still think that believing in God and accepting Jesus is the only way to heaven, then be informed that you are not the only one that believe in God, even the demons believe also in God(James 2:19). So if believing in God is all it takes to get salvation, then even the devil himself will be saved.
Also, your religion is not the only religion that believes in God... Many other religions do too. So stop believing that heaven will be filled with people from only your religion.

MariaLavina:
Yea... been busy.

How have you been?

GrammarNazi1:
I've been good.
How was your stay in Ibadan?

ollah2:
God is a christian right? Heaven will only house Christians there while hell belongs to others. Wow, this is splendid!

djon78:
Can an animal talk, reason. Man can talk, reason. Man can build things. Today men go to the moon and other planetary bodies.
Man is a great being. Man can never be the same thing as animal. The only similarity is that both the human body and animals were formed from the ground.

Mans body was also formed from the dust.

Righteousness89:
Bro do you Know being aChristian is not a Religion...
Being a Christian simply means being CHRIST LIKE... being like JESUS CHRIST..

Religion takes no one to Heaven..

Salvation Through JESUS CHRIST is what Gusrantees Heaven..

A Christian is not a Sinner and a Sinner is not a Christian..

MariaLavina:
Really?

It was great, thanks for asking.

slimdamatrix1:
Celestine, try and do things with your body you haven't been able to do in a while. Use Psalm 23. God is your shepherd, so you shall not want. Your healing and finances are all connected to God who is abundantly able to provide all your needs according to his riches in glory, so look unto God. Trust him. Thank him for healing you and your dad, thank him for providing for your family. Do that and your faith will activate Gods actions in your life as fast as possible. Learn to depend on God and not man, God will use Everyman that comes your way to support you. Try it. Works for me all the time.

Vocnewsblog:
You started very well. But with your neglect of 'Original sin', this is merely sunshine religious philosophy.

God himself said, 'Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.' - James 1:27

And baptism is religion, St. Paul was baptized upon his conversion, it's a cleansing rite. Why then are you stabbing at a universal belief system based on Bible philosophy without the discomfort of proving one true religion? It's not going to work!

As much as his spirit is in us to give life, you and I need the 'Pneuma' of Romans 8:16 which you quoted out of context - the third person of the trinity: the spirit of wisdom, understanding, counsel, knowledge, piety, fortitude and fear of God.


Going forward in your ministry, It's best to broadcast the virtues highlighted in 2 Peter 1:5-8

"For this very reason do your best to add goodness to your faith; to your goodness add knowledge; to your knowledge add self-control; to your self-control add endurance; to your endurance add godliness; to your godliness add Christian affection; and to your Christian affection add love. These are the qualities you need, and if you have them in abundance, they will make you active and effective in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ." - 2 Peter 1:5‭-‬8 GNT


PS: Granted, Western civilization was birthed in the rich moral soils of the Judeo-Christian worldview. But do you need a mystic to show you how these nations have been unchained from their sun. Nietzsche predicted it in his famous essay 'Nietzsche and the mad man'...

Nietzsche and The Madman – “I Seek God”
Here is the original Nietzsche essay, The Madman:1

“Have you not heard of that madman who lit a lantern in the bright morning hours, ran to the market place, and cried incessantly: "I seek God! I seek God!"--As many of those who did not believe in God were standing around just then, he provoked much laughter. Has he got lost? asked one. Did he lose his way like a child? asked another. Or is he hiding? Is he afraid of us? Has he gone on a voyage? emigrated?--Thus they yelled and laughed.

“The madman jumped into their midst and pierced them with his eyes. "Whither is God?" he cried; "I will tell you. We have killed him--you and I. All of us are his murderers. But how did we do this? How could we drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What were we doing when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving? Away from all suns? Are we not plunging continually? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there still any up or down? Are we not straying, as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is not night continually closing in on us? Do we not need to light lanterns in the morning? Do we hear nothing as yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we smell nothing as yet of the divine decomposition? Gods, too, decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.”


“How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whoever is born after us--for the sake of this deed he will belong to a higher history than all history hitherto.

“Here the madman fell silent and looked again at his listeners; and they, too, were silent and stared at him in astonishment. At last he threw his lantern on the ground, and it broke into pieces and went out. "I have come too early," he said then; "my time is not yet. This tremendous event is still on its way, still wandering; it has not yet reached the ears of men…”

What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us?

Over a hundred and eighteen years after Nietzsche and The Madman, the news of God’s death has finally reached ‘the ears of man.’ The horizon defining the limits of our world has been wiped away. The center holding us in place has vanished. Our age, which more and more is coming to be called postmodern, finds itself afloat in a pluralism of perspectives, a plethora of philosophical possibilities, but with no dominant notion of where to go of how to get there. A near future of cultural anarchy seems inevitable.


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ollah2:
I could go as far as listing other Christian terrorist organisations. I debunked some "islamic terrorist organisations" about Chrisitans championing them

charliboy654:
Animals have a way of communication which we humans don't understand, animals can reason as well n they can be taught to understand human commands. Off course man is not the same as animals as we are higher than them, but according to the topic the human body is mere dust n the spirit is what is living so my question is wat is living in animals since they don't have spirit or what make them living things since they don't have spirit.

Vocnewsblog:
Man is essentially a tripartite being. He is a Spirit, that lives in a physical body, and he has a soul. The real you is your spirit, and not your mortal frame. Unfortunately, many of us are awfully ignorant of this fundamental truth about our real human nature

The Bible reveals that man was made in the image and likeness of God. The term “man” is a generic term for humanity. It means man and womb-man (woman), as well.

“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.” (Genesis 1:26).

“God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” (John 4:24).

God is a Spirit. Grab hold of that. This means all human beings are first and foremost spirits, not bodies. On the inside of every living human body there is a human spirit. That is the real person, the one created in the image of God.

“But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.” (Job 32:.
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It is through the spirit of man that God communicates with him or her. God does not communicate with humans through their souls because He does not live in the soulical realm. God does not communicate with humans through their bodies because He does not live in the physical realm. God is a Spirit and He lives in the spirit realm. This is why He communicates with humans through their human spirits.

The soul of man is actually the mind of man. The soul is comprised of the mind, the will, the intellect and the emotions. The human soul is where the human being acquires knowledge. It is a storage and operational area for information, learning, logic, and reason…It is kind of like a hard drive on a computer only it is alive.

Now we come to the body of man. The body is a dwelling place and a vehicle of expression for the human spirit. The spirit actually gives animation to the body. The body is NOT the real person. The SPIRIT is the real person. However, in order for the spirit to live in the Earth realm it must be contained within a human body. I call the human body my earth suit. You have to have an earth suit to live in the earth realm. As soon as an earth suit fails, a human spirit immediately departs for one of two places that does not require one – Heaven or Hell.

Now, beyond the above elucidation on the triune nature of man, it is imperative to state here, that your life is driven by two contending dynamics: the gratification of the desires of your ‘spirit’ or the appeasement of the cravings of your ‘ body’. Fulfillment or a purposeful life, therefore, is only attained when your life aligns with the yearnings of the spirits in the inside of you. Hence, a person is said to be ‘spiritual’ when he totally submits to the control of his spirit being, and he is ‘carnal’ when the lust of the flesh dominates his existence.

Let me quickly add here, that being ‘spiritual’ has nothing to do with the religion you profess. Spirituality is not also a ‘mystical practice’ as portrayed by some religion.it is simply an act of obedience to the ‘voice of good’ in the inside of you. This ‘voice of good’ is popularly called your ‘conscience’, ‘your moral compass’, that nudges you to good deeds. It pricks you each time you deviate from the path of morality. Your conscience judges every of your action, and constantly guides you toward godliness.

Spirituality, therefore, is the gateway to godliness, not religiosity. When your life is totally controlled by the ‘spirit’, you express God anywhere you go and this qualifies you to become an authentic child of God. Romans 8:16 captures this truth:
“For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God”

Again, your godliness is not a function of your religious affiliation. It is simply an expression of the ‘God’ in you, in your daily relationship with others. The good you do to others, is the only definition of godliness that I know!
Please, do not be deceived by any religion and their complicated vain doctrines. You do not need religion to access God, or to live a godly life. Listen to the ‘voice of good’ in the inside of you- that is God guiding you along the path of rectitude. The more you acquiesce to the leading of your spirit the more godly or fulfilled your life becomes.

Have you ever wondered why Africa is backward and under developed, in spite of our pervasive religiosity, and the developed countries that are not religious, are building better societies? The answer is simple: those developed countries have strong moral value system that engenders a ‘godly society’ where the government is compassionate to the needs of every of her citizens, especially the weak, the poor and the vulnerable. And their godly leaders constantly strive to provide for the common good,

I have had cause to challenge many of my Christian folks, who are ‘tongue speaking, holy ghost filled and bible quoting’, that an average white man, who does not even go to church like them, are godlier. While the white man is looking for an opportunity to help someone in need, my Christian brother would rather carry a big bible to meet a man who is hungry, in name of ‘evangeism’, copiously quote the scriptures, and tell him to ‘give his life to Christ’. And when he is done with his ‘ministration’ he goes his way, with the pious feeling that he has done the ‘work of God’ Rubbish! Arrant nonsense.This is the wickedness towards humanity that has created an ungodly religious society that we find ourselves today. Help me tell my evangelist brother that: “Even the Christ you preach about, remember, he fed five thousand people during His earthly ministry”. Why not do the same, if you are truly his disciple?

Bill Gate is not a christian ( he is even an atheist), but he has spent over $28 billion of his net worth on charity, to support the cause of humanity. He has invested millions of dollars alone in Nigeria to support the fight against polio. His philanthropy is impacting the world. This act of nobility is godliness at its peak. Let me even shock you, God is more glorified by the life of Bill Gate, than the miserable life of your religious leaders, who collect money from the poor to build schools, and the children of the same poor people cannot attend thse schools. Many of you religious folks will be shocked to see ‘sinners’ in heaven on that day.

The reality of the life that we live today, especially most of us in Africa, is that, we are not conscious of the essential ‘spirit nature’ of our being. This is attributed largely to the negative influence of religious falsehood that has over the years, configured our lives and society. This is really tragic! Many of us are so consumed by the vain pursuit of carnality, at the expense of spiritual actualization, so much so, that the only thing that matters in our lives is the ‘god’ called ‘money’.

Apostle Paul warns in Romans 8:6-10:
“For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness”

Finally, my beloved, Let me leave you with this piece of advice: be careful about your desperate quest to satiate the cravings of your flesh. The lust of the flesh is unappeasable! You know exactly what I am talking about. The more you have, the more you want to acquire. Tame your flesh or else, it will destroy you.
“There is a way that appears to be right, but in the end it leads to death”- Proverb 14:12
Albert Schweitzer, once said, “The purpose of life is to serve, to show compassion, and the will to help other”

I rest my case!

Azemobor Gregory, The International Coordinator of Voice of Divine Truth International Outreach is a Messenger of Truth and Apostle of Humanity.
Instagram: @gazemobor
Facebook: Azemobor Gregory.

suregalluv:
The soul that possesses the Spirit of Christ belongs to God

Righteousness89:
Op sir, all Good works Without Accepting JESUS CHRIST is An Act of philanthropy..

Good works are good but they don't take to Heaven.. let's not Deceive Ourselves..

Accepting and Believing in JESUS CHRIST is the Only way to Salvation ....

Except A Man be Born Again , He cannot see the Kingdom of GOD..

Read Acts 10 .you see the Example of the Centurion..

GOOD Works Without Accepting JESUS CHRIST is An Act of Philanthropy...

Just like Prophecy without Salvation is Gymnastics

Righteousness89:
When Man Dies the following takes place:

The Body goes back to dust where it belongs
The Soul Returns to the Owner (GOD)
The Spirit goes to its next destination either Heaven or Hell based on the state which it was at death..

Righteousness89:
[s][/s] GOOD WORKS ARE GOOD BUT GOOD WORKS WITHOUT SALVATION THROUGH JESUS CHRIST IS A WASTED INVESTMENT....

GOOD WORKS HAS ITS OWN REWARD...... SEED TIME AND HARVEST DO WILL NOT CEASE... You can be so blessed by GOD and not Make Heaven..

The fact that you are Blessed does not mean u will make heaven..

The fact you Are poor does not also mean you will make Heaven...

Salvation Through JESUS CHRIST IS the ONLY WAY To Heaven According to my Bible

Jesse01:
so you mean that man is a Trinty? according to you he's a spirit that lives in a human body, he also have a soul.so what happen to him when he dies?

gentlegenius:
Do you believe that people from other religions outside Christianity can also make heaven?

1. Let me quickly add here, that being ‘spiritual’ has nothing to do with the religion you profess. Spirituality is not also a ‘mystical practice’ as portrayed by some religion.it is simply an act of obedience to the ‘voice of good’ in the inside of you. This ‘voice of good’ is popularly called your ‘conscience’, ‘your moral compass’, that nudges you to good deeds. It pricks you each time you deviate from the path of morality. Your conscience judges every of your action, and constantly guides you toward godliness.



2. Again, your godliness is not a function of your religious affiliation. It is simply an expression of the ‘God’ in you, in your daily relationship with others. The good you do to others, is the only definition of godliness that I know!
Please, do not be deceived by any religion and their complicated vain doctrines. You do not need religion to access God, or to live a godly life. Listen to the ‘voice of good’ in the inside of you- that is God guiding you along the path of rectitude. The more you acquiesce to the leading of your spirit the more godly or fulfilled your life becomes.

3. I have had cause to challenge many of my Christian folks, who are ‘tongue speaking, holy ghost filled and bible quoting’, that an average white man, who does not even go to church like them, are godlier. While the white man is looking for an opportunity to help someone in need, my Christian brother would rather carry a big bible to meet a man who is hungry, in name of ‘evangeism’, copiously quote the scriptures, and tell him to ‘give his life to Christ’. And when he is done with his ‘ministration’ he goes his way, with the pious feeling that he has done the ‘work of God’ Rubbish! Arrant nonsense.This is the wickedness towards humanity that has created an ungodly religious society that we find ourselves today. Help me tell my evangelist brother that: “Even the Christ you preach about, remember, he fed five thousand people during His earthly ministry”. Why not do the same, if you are truly his disciple?

4. Bill Gate is not a christian ( he is even an atheist), but he has spent over $28 billion of his net worth on charity, to support the cause of humanity. He has invested millions of dollars alone in Nigeria to support the fight against polio. His philanthropy is impacting the world. This act of nobility is godliness at its peak. Let me even shock you, God is more glorified by the life of Bill Gate, than the miserable life of your religious leaders, who collect money from the poor to build schools, and the children of the same poor people cannot attend thse schools. Many of you religious folks will be shocked to see ‘sinners’ in heaven on that day.

Premiumwriter:
Humans again and our endless struggle to give meaning to our meaningless life.

Man is an animal. We have no spirit, we have no soul.

When we die, we decay like every other animal out there.

"there's no knowledge in the grave where thou goest"

The spirit of God is the breathe in our nostrils and when he takes it, we cease to live.

That's if you believe in religion. Remember the story of the valley of dry bones?

When the bones where resurrected, God did not ask Jeremiah to put his spirit within them to make them alive, rather he asked him to call to the four winds of the earth. When the wind gets into them, they were all made alive.

Also, why is there no record of Lazarus experiences of the afterlife in the Bible, I mean he was dead for four days before Jesus resurrected him, if truly we go to heaven or hell after we die, Lazarus must have gone somewhere, and should have recounted his experience.

Or how about the man that died and Elisha bones brought to life or the boy and girl Jesus brought to life or the the widow Peter brought to life, why is it that none have any knowledge of their experience in heaven or hell?

Because there's no knowledge in the grave. When we die, we perish.

If you believe in the Bible, then according to it, you will be resurrected on the last day to face heaven or hell, not a day after.

Mary said to Jesus, "I know my brother will be resurrected again on the day of judgment" (paraphrased)

Please let's be guided and through search the scriptures.

And secondly, hell is not forever. Search the Bible for yourself and see.

I think I'll need to create a thread on this.