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lillaowow:
Also once you're over the age of 18, you don't get the derivative status. You however get the option of an I485 application for PR.

Who told you that?

As long as you were under 18 when your parents became citizens then automatically you're a derivative citizen.

You only need to file for form N-600 ( Certificate of Citizenship).

lillaowow:
Also once you're over the age of 18, you don't get the derivative status. You however get the option of an I485 application for PR.

Why would one apply for Permanent Residency when they're already a Derivative Citizen?

That doesn't even make any sense.

LUCAS99:
I'm not getting all defensive.

I believe I have answered your question to the best of my ability.

My mum passed away when I was little & I didn't want to start explaining every little details of my life in a public forum.

Go read up on the Citizenship Act of 2001 and then come back and ask your questions.

I don't have time for you right now.
I am checking out of my hotel and my Uber is waiting. Boston is a crazy place to be at this time.

When I have time, I'll dissect your post. Just know people here are not idiots or kids.

lillaowow:
I don't have time for you right now.
I am checking out of my hotel and my Uber is waiting. Boston is a crazy place to be at this time.

When I have time, I'll dissect your post. Just know people here are not idiots or kids.

Nobody is calling anyone idiots.

But when you're not knowledgeable about a subject matter just research & ask questions instead of arguing blindly.

lillaowow:
I don't have time for you right now.
I am checking out of my hotel and my Uber is waiting. Boston is a crazy place to be at this time.

When I have time, I'll dissect your post. Just know people here are not idiots or kids.

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Just be careful so Madam doesn't catch you checking out of a hotel...

If not you will have to explain what you were doing there this morning...

LUCAS99:
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Just be careful so Madam doesn't catch you checking out of a hotel

If not you will have to explain what you were doing there this morning...

Lol... Work related trip tho (Modified)

lillaowow:
Lol... Work related trip tho (Modified)

Ok, I have never been to Boston.

Heard is Super Expensive & Very Cold during winter.

I should have visited when I was still living in New York City.

LUCAS99:
I just told you that if you were born in Nigeria & your parents were citizens at the time of birth then automatically you become a derivative citizen at birth.

So I went from F-1 to U.S. Citizen.

No Permanent Residency.

What part are you confused about?

OR

Do you need me to post a copy of my U.S. Passport?

No it no’s automatic, both the child and the parents meet the requirements . To be derivative your child must under 18 years old . During your f1 interview they would have asked about having any relatives in the U.S. They definitely can track these things. It would be weird if you answered no during the f1 interview then your parent later applied for you later.

LUCAS99:
Who told you that?

As long as you were under 18 when your parents became citizens then automatically you're a derivative citizen.

You only need to file for form N-600 ( Certificate of Citizenship).

You are incorrect , you must be under 18years old during the filling . It says it right on the USCIS website.
https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-parents

LUCAS99:
Why would one apply for Permanent Residency when they're already a Derivative Citizen?

That doesn't even make any sense.

Because citizenship is not automatic in your case. Plus if it was automatic then why did you apply for f1 in the first place.

https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-parents

Babyvet:
No it no’s automatic, both the child and the parents meet the requirements . To be derivative your child must under 18 years old . During your f1 interview they would have asked about having any relatives in the U.S. They definitely can track these things. It would be weird if you answered no during the f1 interview then your parent later applied for you later.

You guys love arguing unnecessarily.

To obtain derivative citizenship you only need to old under 18 years old when your father became a Citizen.

You can apply at anytime to obtain a Certificate of CItizenship.

Babyvet:
You are incorrect , you must be under 18years old during the filling . It says it right on the USCIS website.
https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-parents

No, you don't.

Have you ever filed a form N-600 before?

You only need to be under 18 when the original law was enacted not during the filing of a form N-600

Babyvet:
Because citizenship is not automatic in your case. Plus if it was automatic then why did you apply for f1 in the first place.

https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-parents

Define Automatic Citizenship & Derivative Citizenship.

The answer lies right there in your definition.

Babyvet:
You are incorrect , you must be under 18years old during the filling . It says it right on the USCIS website.
https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-parents

Thank you Babyvet

His story is so weird. There's no way they'd have issued him a F1.

I don't wanna say he's lying but c'mon.

He is implying that US embassy have no record of his parents

Besides, they won't have given him citizenship since he's over 18 and left with the option of a permanent residency.

LUCAS99:
Ok, I have never been to Boston.

Heard is Super Expensive & Very Cold during winter.

I should have visited when I was still living in New York City.

Boston is amazing. I love it.

I come to Boston everyweek on work related event. I hate driving to Boston though. When I drive my personal car, I make more money.

When I take public transport, I enjoy more and get to stay at one of the Marriott hotel in Boston with other benefits.

lillaowow:
Thank you Babyvet

His story is so weird. There's no way they'd have issued him a F1.

I don't wanna say he's lying but c'mon.

He is implying that US embassy have no record of his parents

Besides, they won't have given him citizenship since he's over 18 and left with the option of a permanent residency.

Una sabi argue...

Even after explaining everything to you guys...

You guys need to ask question...

People become Citizens without even becoming permanent residents first...

I know because I went through the process...

lillaowow:
Boston is amazing. I love it.

I come to Boston everyweek on work related event. I hate driving to Boston though. When I drive my personal car, I make more money.

When I take public transport, I enjoy more and get to stay at one of the Marriott hotel in Boston with other benefits.

I thought you live in Boston?

Do you only visit for work?

LUCAS99:
Define Automatic Citizenship & Derivative Citizenship.

The answer lies right there in your definition.

This isn't about definition. This is about how the process works.

It is right there on the United States citizenship and immigration services website. Any other thing outside that is falsehoods.

LUCAS99:
I thought you live in Boston?

Do you only visit for work?

No bro... I can't afford Boston. Not that I can't pay the rent but, I can't live in a tiny 1bedroom or studio appartment for 1,800$ per month and have to pay for parking every day. Plus the traffic sucks and bunch of annoying tourists always in your way.

The city is Lively though just too expensive for me.

However, from my experience, working in Boston is great. The pay is way better for most people.

I am working my transfer to Maryland or Texas, I haven't decided (if my parents petition gets approved sooner) once I get my citizenship in few months

lillaowow:
This isn't about definition. This is about how the process works.

It is right there on the United States citizenship and immigration services website. Any other thing outside that is falsehoods.

Their is no falsehoods in my statements:

Even if you're above 18 years now but you were under 18 years old on February 27, 2001 (the date the law took effect) you may file Form N-600 at any time to obtain a Certificate of Citizenship.

What part of my statement above is too difficult to understand?

lillaowow:
No bro... I can't afford Boston. Not that I can't pay the rent but, I can't live in a tiny 1bedroom or studio appartment for 1,800$ per month and have to pay for parking every day. Plus the traffic sucks and bunch of annoying tourists always in your way.

The city is Lively though just too expensive for me.

However, from my experience, working in Boston is great. The pay is way better for most people.

I am working my transfer to Maryland or Texas, I haven't decided (if my parents petition gets approved sooner) once I get my citizenship in few months

Yup.

The same exact reason while I moved away from New York City to Miami.

New York City is way too expensive for me.

Dremca:
What! The cost of buying data to watch that 20mins video is equivalent to some people monthly salary in Nigeria.

Umm N2,000?

LUCAS99:
I think it depends on the circumstances.

You just have to put yourself in the best position possible.

I have a friend both of us attended High School together but he came into the United States in 2011 while I came into the United States in 2012.

He came on an F-1 Student Visa and was able to find a Girlfriend on campus after 1 year in college.

He dropped out of school & they both moved in together & eventually got married.

It's been almost 7 years now & they're still together.

He even told me he will be filing for his citizenship this year and he is just waiting to save up enough money to pursue the application.

At the end of the day as long as you're sincere & committed with them most are willing to help.

But don't have a wife in Nigeria & start up lying to them inorder to get them to help you because if they eventually find out on their own sorry will be you name...

EXACTLY

lillaowow:
Hmmm

That doesn't make any sense to me. They won't even issue you an F1 if they find out you're a derivative and encourage you to apply for citizenship.

Except maybe your parent became a citizen during your F1 while you're still a minor (which doesn't seem to be the case)

No, quite possible if he didn't mention it in F1 app

lillaowow:
I'm sorry. Not that I am trying to scrutinize your post. But something just weird.

Story sounds like your parent woke up someday and realized they were USC then need to file for you

Or you were lost child (which doesn't seem to be the case) and all of a suddenly renuited with your family

And in both instances, you won't skip green card since you're already 18 and older.

Your immigration history is so weird. Like UNBELIEVABLY weird.

F1 to USC.?

Again, possible. Same thing happened to my husband.

LUCAS99:
Their is no falsehoods in my statements:

Even if you're above 18 years now but you were under 18 years old on February 27, 2001 (the date the law took effect) you may file Form N-600 at any time to obtain a Certificate of Citizenship.

What part of my statement above is too difficult to understand?

Children of U.S. Citizens Residing Outside the United States

Children residing outside of the United States may obtain citizenship under Section 322 of the INA. A child who regularly resides outside of the United States is eligible for naturalization if all of the following conditions have been met:

The child has at least one parent, including an adoptive parent, who is a U.S. citizen by birth or through naturalization;
The child’s U.S. citizen parent or U.S. citizen grandparent meets certain physical presence requirements in the United States or an outlying possession;
The child is under 18 years of age;
The child is residing outside of the United States in the legal and physical custody of the U.S. citizen parent, or of a person who does not object to the application if the U.S. citizen parent is deceased; and
The child is lawfully admitted, physically present, and maintaining a lawful status in the United States at the time the application is approved and the time of naturalization.

lillaowow:
Thank you Babyvet

His story is so weird. There's no way they'd have issued him a F1.

I don't wanna say he's lying but c'mon.

He is implying that US embassy have no record of his parents

Besides, they won't have given him citizenship since he's over 18 and left with the option of a permanent residency.

He is lying, it’s does not work like that. Citizenship is not automatic for him because if it was why did he apply for f1 visa instead of citizenship .

Babyvet:
He is lying, it’s does not work like that. Citizenship is not automatic for him because if it was why did he apply for f1 visa instead of citizenship .

https://www.uscitizenship.info/articles/what-is-the-difference-between-the-uscis-form-n-600-and-form-n-400/
Can you just briefly go through this .

radautoworks:
Again, possible. Same thing happened to my husband.

Please explain ?

Godchangemylife:
https://www.uscitizenship.info/articles/what-is-the-difference-between-the-uscis-form-n-600-and-form-n-400/
Can you just briefly go through this .

I know how to read it’s states the same thing that I posted . I asked him a simple question why didn’t he apply for that first instead of f1.

To qualify for the i245,

A petition for classification under section 204 of the Act (on Form I-130, I-140, I-360, or I-526) which was properly filed with the Attorney General on or before April 30, 2001, and which was approvable when filed;

(ii) The term “properly filed” means:

With respect to a qualifying immigrant visa petition, that the application was physically received on or before April 30, 2001, or if mailed, was postmarked on or before April 30, 2001, and accepted for filing.

https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/AFM/HTML/AFM/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-8624/0-0-0-9232.html

Babyvet:
He is lying, it’s does not work like that.

Citizenship is not automatic for him because if it was why did he apply for f1 visa instead of citizenship .

Madam you love arguing unnecessarily...

Even after everything has been explained properly to you.

Please go download the form N-600 as well as filing instructions then come back & argue.