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Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by 1zynnvn(m): 10:45am On Sep 30, 2018
Babysho:
Elon Musk, founder, CEO, and lead designer of SpaceX; co-founder, CEO, and product architect of Tesla, Inc.; co-founder and CEO of Neuralink; and co-founder of PayPal uses 'Am' instead of 'I'm'.

tongue



You forgot "the boring company"
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by 1zynnvn(m): 10:46am On Sep 30, 2018
Babysho:
Elon Musk, founder, CEO, and lead designer of SpaceX; co-founder, CEO, and product architect of Tesla, Inc.; co-founder and CEO of Neuralink; and co-founder of PayPal uses 'Am' instead of 'I'm'.

tongue



You forgot "the boring company", hat salesman
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Nobody: 10:48am On Sep 30, 2018
i like that man for his vision, intellect, innovations but, i hate his attitude of unguided unterances and fingers due pride.
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by franchasng: 10:52am On Sep 30, 2018
Newboss:


Yes, it's healthy. angry

He should please go into electricity generation too so that we can have light for 24/7 angry He should also complete that refinery fast soo that we can stop importing refined petrol angry

Don't let envy and jealousy destroy you. angry
Hahahaha, he should also go into governance so he can help us put president to avoid all these APC brazen election rigging cheesy cheesy

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Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Newboss(m): 10:56am On Sep 30, 2018
ehissi:


Trust me, tesla is now as good as dead......... undecided

Tesla without Musk is like Apple without Jobs (that while he was still alive).

Its not a slap on the wrist, it more like chopping off the hand........


From the wrist................. angry
He's still the CEO and everyone in Telsa knows that that he owns Telsa despite it being a listed on the stock market angry

I always advise against this listing of a thing but everyone seems to want what they don't have even if it means giving up their liberty angry
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Newboss(m): 11:02am On Sep 30, 2018
franchasng:
Hahahaha, he should also go into governance so he can help us put president to avoid all these APC brazen election rigging cheesy cheesy

That's not where a businessman with billions of dollars to invest belongs angry

I'm not talking about Trump because that's simply an idiot whose biggest ambition was to become a president in his lifetime not minding his undiplomatic nature. angry

People should enter the hole they are shaped to fit into, not just any hole angry

Dangote has nothing to do with governance, and he knows that very well angry
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Adek15(m): 11:13am On Sep 30, 2018
franchasng:
When you hear Americans saying their last presidential election was rigged, don't confuse it with your own type of brazen rigging as seen in Ekiti and Osun elections.

What they meant is some social media promotion firms from Russia created image lifting videos and campaigns to favor Donald Trump and to tarnish Hillary Clinton by exposing Hillary's past dark political secrets to make Americans dislike Hillary and prefer Trump. So they used Facebook more to push these messages to more American voters which made them to vote more for Trump, not as if it was rigged by changing figures like APC did in Ekiti and Osun.

Now back to Dangote, Dangote is the luckiest Nigerian alive and that's why he stay off contesting any political posts cos he knows past heads of states and presidents will expose him and kill his empire.

Dangote is not a self made billionaire. Dangote got his first business startup money from his billionaire uncle Alhj. Dantata + business connections and political connections from his father, uncles, etc. How many Nigerians had such opportunity If many Nigerians here have someone to give them just 5million to startup a business or fund their ideas, many will become richer in few years to come.

Dangote is the looting pipe and front for majority of past Nigerian heads of state excluding:

1. Abacha
2. Yaradua
3. Goodluck

Dangote gets a lot of tax and FOREX waivers running into billions while other competitors don't get! The FOREX waivers Dangote gets alone can make any mad man a very rich person angry

Let me explain the FOREX waiver Dangote gets to you.

If dollar is 365 naira in black market, and CBN is selling dollar at 310 naira. Federal Government will issue Dangote a FOREX waiver to obtain dollar from CBN at official rate of 310 naira to encourage him so he can employ more. Dangote will buy this dollar and move it outside Nigeria and round trip to make billions.

That alone is a multi billion dollar business that made Aisha Buhari and many top APC chieftains billionaires in 2015/2016 when dollar shot up to 500naira = $1.

They will get waiver from CBN to buy $ at official rate of say 310nairs = $1 and they go to black marker to sell it for 480naira = $1, now check how much they will make selling like $50million

Dangote gets monopoly while his competitors gets shutdown. Obasanjo did it for him as against IBETO!

Dangote and Otedola used to be sworn secret enemies due to his cousin Rahamania Oil issue with Otedola, what rescued Otedola is Goodluck that brought him back from Ghana as soon as he became president because Otedola used to respect him even while he was VP.

They wanted to kill Otedola, they slapped him with several fines and charges running into billions, Goodluck waived all that but still mumu Yorubas hate Goodluck even after all the favor he also gave to their god Tinubu's OANDO oil but just because Tinubu wanted him to give his relative minister of petroleum job which he didn't, he turned against him. Nature will humble Tinubu sha, soon!

So stop over hyping Dangote cos he did nothing special to become the political business billionaire he is today. When u talk about self made billionaires, u talk about the man in topic of discussion that brought us here in the first place
nice comment. Really nice but what I don't understand is you saying Yorùbás hate Goodluck despite helping otedola. How is that my business? Otedola is one man. I voted for goodluck in 2011 hoping he'll be better but he's not. He failed Nigerians.

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Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by franchasng: 11:19am On Sep 30, 2018
Adek15:
nice comment. Really nice but what I don't understand is you saying Yorùbás hate Goodluck despite helping otedola. How is that my business? Otedola is one man. I voted for goodluck in 2011 hoping he'll be better but he's not. He failed Nigerians.

you are among the few wonderful Yoruba people, pls I am sorry, forgive....people like u make me weak cry
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Awoo88: 11:53am On Sep 30, 2018
Wen him go smoke Igbo finish cum begin tweet
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Ugosample(m): 12:12pm On Sep 30, 2018
Berankis:
Electric car manufacturing may be the future of automobiles but as at today, it is not! Tesla over its15years in business has never made a profit. So claiming via Twitter to taking the company private and securing funds for it was considered fraud and misleading investors. Let's just try to emulate, learn from this people from their acts of lawfulness and discipline, so we can be a better nation.
I wish such accountability exists in Nigeria

But everything in that zoo na just scatter scatter
And people get away with anything
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Ugosample(m): 12:14pm On Sep 30, 2018
franchasng:
Better nation where things work.

Do you know why America is a great country today Simply because the country is built on honesty, fairness and equality.

American law respects no class; be it poor or rich the law must take its course.

Dangote ought to have been jailed or paying off huge fines running into billions if Nigeria were to be a normal nation, but down here, they buy their way even when they break the law, what a failed nation called Nigeria cry

pay huge fines for doing what exactly? ?
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by BuddhaPalm(m): 12:19pm On Sep 30, 2018
Babysho:
Elon Musk, founder, CEO, and lead designer of SpaceX; co-founder, CEO, and product architect of Tesla, Inc.; co-founder and CEO of Neuralink; and co-founder of PayPal uses 'Am' instead of 'I'm'.

tongue


You that know how to use it, who e hep?
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Ugosample(m): 12:20pm On Sep 30, 2018
CoolAmbience:




United States of America is built on fairness, honesty.....bla bla bla.

Was their presidential election not rigged?

Dangote is a blessing to Nigeria incase you don't know. You don't seem to know what it means to have over 10,000 people in your employ and counting...




don't mind that guy

not to talk of the industries he has built and the savings he has made Nigeria via import substitution strategy


with the refinery coming up....


We will both safe forex on importation, and at the same time even gain forex via exportation

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Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Ugosample(m): 12:29pm On Sep 30, 2018
franchasng:
When you hear Americans saying their last presidential election was rigged, don't confuse it with your own type of brazen rigging as seen in Ekiti and Osun elections.

What they meant is some social media promotion firms from Russia created image lifting videos and campaigns to favor Donald Trump and to tarnish Hillary Clinton by exposing Hillary's past dark political secrets to make Americans dislike Hillary and prefer Trump. So they used Facebook more to push these messages to more American voters which made them to vote more for Trump, not as if it was rigged by changing figures like APC did in Ekiti and Osun.

Now back to Dangote, Dangote is the luckiest Nigerian alive and that's why he stay off contesting any political posts cos he knows past heads of states and presidents will expose him and kill his empire.

Dangote is not a self made billionaire. Dangote got his first business startup money from his billionaire uncle Alhj. Dantata + business connections and political connections from his father, uncles, etc. How many Nigerians had such opportunity If many Nigerians here have someone to give them just 5million to startup a business or fund their ideas, many will become richer in few years to come.

Dangote is the looting pipe and front for majority of past Nigerian heads of state excluding:

1. Abacha
2. Yaradua
3. Goodluck

Dangote gets a lot of tax and FOREX waivers running into billions while other competitors don't get! The FOREX waivers Dangote gets alone can make any mad man a very rich person angry

Let me explain the FOREX waiver Dangote gets to you.

If dollar is 365 naira in black market, and CBN is selling dollar at 310 naira. Federal Government will issue Dangote a FOREX waiver to obtain dollar from CBN at official rate of 310 naira to encourage him so he can employ more. Dangote will buy this dollar and move it outside Nigeria and round trip to make billions.

That alone is a multi billion dollar business that made Aisha Buhari and many top APC chieftains billionaires in 2015/2016 when dollar shot up to 500naira = $1.

They will get waiver from CBN to buy $ at official rate of say 310nairs = $1 and they go to black marker to sell it for 480naira = $1, now check how much they will make selling like $50million

Dangote gets monopoly while his competitors gets shutdown. Obasanjo did it for him as against IBETO!

Dangote and Otedola used to be sworn secret enemies due to his cousin Rahamania Oil issue with Otedola, what rescued Otedola is Goodluck that brought him back from Ghana as soon as he became president because Otedola used to respect him even while he was VP.

They wanted to kill Otedola, they slapped him with several fines and charges running into billions, Goodluck waived all that but still mumu Yorubas hate Goodluck even after all the favor he also gave to their god Tinubu's OANDO oil but just because Tinubu wanted him to give his relative minister of petroleum job which he didn't, he turned against him. Nature will humble Tinubu sha, soon!

So stop over hyping Dangote cos he did nothing special to become the political business billionaire he is today. When u talk about self made billionaires, u talk about the man in topic of discussion that brought us here in the first place

he did nothing special? ?

you are on this stupid argument again undecided


And comparing dangote to ibeto is ludicrous

any ways I know your type, you sound like one of my uncles who was fed with the koolaid of how dangote ruined ibeto while in reality Ibeto ruined ibeto cheesy grin

Like I asked you in the other thread, tell me one gov't that will support a common inoorter of cement over a local producer of cement? ??

And yes due to the volatile nature of Nigeria, dangote needs all the waivers and protection he can get, because without that he will be ruined, and others will not be encouraged to invest in the murky waters of Nigeria

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Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Ugosample(m): 12:31pm On Sep 30, 2018
madridsta007:


Enough said.
Same thing which they did to cripple Ibeto Cement. Gave Dangote a lot of concessions which made him sell Cememt almost at half-price to Ibeto’s. When Ibeto was out-priced and crumbled, Dangote went back to his normal price.

story story grin grin
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Ugosample(m): 12:35pm On Sep 30, 2018
CoolAmbience:



Lengthy but makes no sense to me.

Slander isn't the same as rigging. Are you saying that Americans do not know the difference between the two words?

Dangote isn't the only person benefiting from the Nigerian system, how much have the others given back? Besides, most of the stuff you wrote here are nothing but tittle tattle.

Tell me the country where there aren't a few persons who are enjoying some kind of business privileges in compensation for their contributions to the economy...??












no mind that guy
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Ugosample(m): 12:38pm On Sep 30, 2018
franchasng:
tell me the special thing Dangote did to raise his first business startup capital

Now compare it to how Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Larry Page, Sagel Brim, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, etc raised their business startup capital.

Dangote did nothing special. He only managed what his family handed over to him well, that's all

so managing money that was given to you in the 70s well and paying back and expanding upon it over the decades is not special? grin cheesy

tell me something tongue

you know how many Nigerians have been given seed money and wasted it?

I know boys who squandered what was given to them at onitsha, so forget that story
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Ugosample(m): 12:41pm On Sep 30, 2018
franchasng:
Let's leave American election for Americans to sort out.

As for Dangote and his political business wealth, it doesn't move people in the know of his shenanigans like me.

I know more about Dangote's shenanigans than u.

When I see Dangote and Otedola now forming best friends, I smile lol

If you know, you know, let's leave matter bra cool

you know of dangote shenanigans grin grin tongue

I know he is no saint (his shenanigans during his NSE days was not cool, but I bet you don't know about it) But accisibf dangote of ruining ibeto is ludicrous, and saying there in nothing special about him is equally laughable


considering the environment he finds himself, he has tried
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Johnrake69: 12:42pm On Sep 30, 2018
CoolAmbience:




United States of America is built on fairness, honesty.....bla bla bla.

Was their presidential election not rigged?

Dangote is a blessing to Nigeria incase you don't know. You don't seem to know what it means to have over 10,000 people in your employ and counting...




He can't be a blessing to Nigeria. Great wealth create great poverty. You can't be a billionaire in dollars unless you have multitude of workers getting paid peanut and living from hand to mouth. Wealth accumulation is what creates poverty.
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Ugosample(m): 12:43pm On Sep 30, 2018
Igboeze90:


I shudder at the illogic of your ramblings.

First off, no billionaire is self-made! Musk? OK, why didn't he become a billionaire in South Africa? Bill Gates? Ever heard of the IBM coup? I could go on and on, but no. You only need one book. Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell. Comment again after you've read it...


On a second thought, your propensity to dish out useless propaganda can only be matched with your rank jealousy.

You must be leading a bitter life. Learn to pray for opportunities to become half as great as Dangote.

Shalom.

naa

I don't think he is bitter
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Ugosample(m): 12:48pm On Sep 30, 2018
franchasng:
lolz, I love your comment. Anyway, u are right most popular Nigerians got popular through family push, and reason I don't fancy people using them as role models for youths.

Yes they are successful but they are not worthy role models to encourage majority of Nigerian youths who come from very poor family background.

Maybe Dangote and his likes can be used as role models to rich Nigerian kids like Otedola's daughter DJ Cuppy, Abiola's kids and their likes but not a good role model for majority of Nigerians who were born without a shoe nor roof.

Same goes with Chimamanda and many others like them.

We need to celebrate more of people who made fortune from scratch!

People who built their wealth from poverty!

Tomorrow now, Adenuga's son Paddy Adenuga will come out to brag how they made it on their own, how pls These people are totally wrong role models for our yourhsy, my take and thanks for your subtle comment cool

now I understand your perspective


But still, the poor and disenfranchise can still look up to them, and see them as a bench Mark for which they can achieve and even surpass


But then, a lot of dreams in our home land (land of the rising sun) and even in Lagos, is the PhD syndrome prevalent in Nigeria


lots of youths are putting the effort, but the black man factor (whether its jealous relatives, wicked lecturers or wicked bosses) are just out there killing dreams

But one must not give up

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Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Ugosample(m): 12:53pm On Sep 30, 2018
CoolAmbience:



Large minds never think enmity should linger forever.

I won't blame you because the consensus thinking of the average Nigerian is that every well-to-do businessman 'shortchanged' the system.

As an entrepreneur, I have met Alhaji Aliko Dangote at different fora where he shared his story with us, young entrepreneurs. It will be unwise to ignore what I heard from the man himself, in the presence of stakeholders of the same system whom we accuse of enriching him, detailing how much he and other businessmen of his era struggled and toiled amidst 'killing' bank interest rates of over 40%, to successfully build and expand their businesses; and believe mere hearsay from just anyone.

How do you mean you know Alhaji Dangote than I do? When we hardly know each other?

Anyways, people are at liberty to think whatever they want to think.











a virtual encounter with him changed my own life too and my perception of it

And I like his sense of humor too, as he took no offense whatsoever , or carried the airs of the average insecure big man in Nigeria

And by the grace of God, I'm keying into his vision, and you should too

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Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Ugosample(m): 12:55pm On Sep 30, 2018
dwas:
This is very good. As much as I respect the person of Elon Musk, always support his visionary invention, I detest it when innocent people are being trick to part with their hard earn money.

Hope Nigerian Sec will learn and do the right thing rather than allowing banks and other listed companies on the market floor from improverishing their shareholder.

Still yet to recover from 2008 stock market collapse

exactly

sorry for your losses
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Igboeze90: 2:01pm On Sep 30, 2018
Ugosample:


naa

I don't think he is bitter


Well, it's okay to choose to differ.

However, I must admit I came out a little too harsh on those lines. That said, you need to understand that having prejudiced views of a person based on his tribe alone is HATE...

And all forms of hate - bitterness, acrimony, resentment and cynicism - spring from casting blames.

I only wanted to lead him away from that path...

Blames devalue a man. I'm not winning because you are losing; you are not winning because I'm losing. The sun rises for everyone in the East and sets for everyone in the West. Only some are born on hilltops, others in tunnels...

It's no one's fault. TIME and CHANCE happens.
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by Ugosample(m): 3:09pm On Sep 30, 2018
Igboeze90:


Well, it's okay to choose to differ.

However, I must admit I came out a little too harsh on those lines. That said, you need to understand that having prejudiced views of a person based on his tribe alone is HATE...

And all forms of hate - bitterness, acrimony, resentment and cynicism - spring from casting blames.

I only wanted to lead him away from that path...

Blames devalue a man. I'm not winning because you are losing; you are not winning because I'm losing. The sun rises for everyone in the East and sets for everyone in the West. Only some are born on hilltops, others in tunnels...

It's no one's fault. TIME and CHANCE happens.

you got that right tho


he is being biased against dangote

that's how I see it
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by brainhgeek(m): 4:08pm On Sep 30, 2018
Mark Zuckerberg will be rolling over on this news. One enemy down. This guy Elon Musk hate Zuckerberg die and he doesn't hide it.
Re: Elon Musk And Tesla Settle SEC Fraud Case For $40m,Will Resign As Tesla Chairman by omohlexy: 2:47am On Oct 01, 2018
CoolAmbience:



Large minds never think enmity should linger forever.

I won't blame you because the consensus thinking of the average Nigerian is that every well-to-do businessman 'shortchanged' the system.

As an entrepreneur, I have met Alhaji Aliko Dangote at different fora where he shared his story with us, young entrepreneurs. It will be unwise to ignore what I heard from the man himself, in the presence of stakeholders of the same system whom we accuse of enriching him, detailing how much he and other businessmen of his era struggled and toiled amidst 'killing' bank interest rates of over 40%, to successfully build and expand their businesses; and believe mere hearsay from just anyone.

How do you mean you know Alhaji Dangote than I do? When we hardly know each other?

Anyways, people are at liberty to think whatever they want to think.
Like seriously you and Dangote meet for fora? Hahaha. Uncle you can lie o









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