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ChrisKels:
But u haven't brought any fact ever since, the only thing I see are some puerile uncouth words like mumu, devil et al. So let the facts rain, not the abusive words. Be mature

Really!?

What else do one expect from you?

If you can see, anyone seeking for truth will see the. No need for Stori.

Bolowolowo:
When is Ogu going to leave Israel?

To go where ❓ Enyimba❓

Danjuma don score oh

Danjuma with a wonder strike against atletico

fabyom:
Objection! Please can you stop already Safarigirl. Lagos is not and will never be a no man's land.

What I think she is saying Lagos is not overwhelmingly dominated by one ethnic group.

It is a cosmopolitan city and as it evolves into to a world class mega city, local tribal affiliations will become irrelevant.

In this regard the "No man's Land" is quite apt it's not one man's land but everybody's. That for me is great progress leaving the legacy of tribalism and its evils behind.

komekn:
What I think she is saying Lagos is not overwhelmingly dominated by one ethnic group.

It is a cosmopolitan city and as it evolves into to a world class mega city, local tribal affiliations will become irrelevant.

In this regard the "No man's Land" is quite apt it's not one man's land but everybody's. That for me is great progress leaving the legacy of tribalism and its evils behind.

No man's land is not apt.

There are indigenous occupants of the land no matter how cosmopolitan it has become.

hope d guy dey ball? onyekuru how is he doing so far?

rabzy:
Danjuma with a wonder strike against atletico

tglobal:
I think he has baited you by using the same approach you take to question Kelechi's performances in the EPL. He borrowed multiple pages from your book and I am therefore surprised at your insinuation that this is an attempt to bring down Kayode while your comments on KC shouldnt be seen as such!

I will suggest you compare his comments with the ones you have made in the past to present Kelechi as a less than average player and no longer worthy of invitation to the national team. Also consider that you tend to suggest that KC isn't good enough if he doesnt get game time or fails to deliver on goals. However, if someone brings up Kayode's performance from last season, you come up with reasons that range from his teammates selfishness to him having to compete with players KC could never dare to polish their boots (I know this is an hyperbole...but you get the gist).

*What I am asking you to do will only make sense when you have the time, are in a good mood and not hell bent on finding reasons why you are right and every other person who regards KC as a quality player is a tribalist*

What makes a man differ from an animal is his conscience. Man has conscience but animal doesn't have.

With this, they can decipher btw good and bad but if they can't decipher btw right and wrong then they are animal.

Hence, you should be able to decipher btw pull down syndrone devoid of basic facts and pure unadulterated undiluted truth backed with confirmed facts. I think once you are able to use your conscience rightfully, you can arrive at the right conclusion but as it stands, I am sorry to say... it is left for you to decipher. Get the gist.


Besides, there was never a time I called anyone who regards KC as a quality player tribalist. It's other way round. Spare me the false accusations.

tbaba1234:
No man's land is not apt.

There are indigenous occupants of the land no matter how cosmopolitan it has become.

Your diction is stuck in an era that has faded away and has no relevance in today's Lagos mega city. The mentality you express is the mentality of Omonile and all the harassment they attempt to cause.

What do you think does "indigenous occupants" have to do with property owners in Banana Island, Oniru, NICON, estate, Thomas estate Ajah, etc, etc

What a goal from Danjuma!!! What a goal!!!!!!

komekn:
Your diction is stuck in an era that has faded away and has no relevance in today's Lagos mega city. The mentality you express is the mentality of Omonile and all the harassment they attempt to cause.

What do you think does "indigenous occupants" have to do with property owners in Banana Island, Oniru, NICON, estate, Thomas estate Ajah, etc, etc

My diction?? Are you kidding me??

Having a home land does not translate to harassment or extortion.

What is the correlation between what i said and owning property??

Ridiculous!!!

komekn:
Your diction is stuck in an era that has faded away and has no relevance in today's Lagos mega city. The mentality you express is the mentality of Omonile and all the harassment they attempt to cause.

What do you think does "indigenous occupants" have to do with property owners in Banana Island, Oniru, NICON, estate, Thomas estate Ajah, etc, etc

thanks for this

Lagos is the only state, aside Abuja, where University admission is not based on cachment area. What happened to indigenes there too? In the next hundred years, who will occupy Lagos? The indigenes of Lagos don't make up 15% of the population.

Those omoniles you speak of are not even indigenes, they are settlers like most of the people in Lagos. Lagos and Abuja are distinctly different from every other state in Nigeria, the only other state close to them is PH.

As far as I am concerned, Lagos has transcended tribal affiliations. It belongs to everybody and belongs to nobody. It was built by the blood and sweat of all Nigerians from all walks of life and all erhnicities, so, it is an injustice to omit those people, some spanning three generations, from Lagos, and refer to them as non-indigenes. And no, contrary to popular belief, the day Nigeria scatters, some people that are referred to as 'non-indigenes' will not have a hometown to go to, because their entire lives are in Lagos

komekn:
What I think she is saying Lagos is not overwhelmingly dominated by one ethnic group.

It is a cosmopolitan city and as it evolves into to a world class mega city, local tribal affiliations will become irrelevant.

In this regard the "No man's Land" is quite apt it's not one man's land but everybody's. That for me is great progress leaving the legacy of tribalism and its evils behind.

Lagos isn't a no man's land!!
Lagos has a history long before Nigeria was created just like other Nigerian cities... The Aworis were the originally settlers in Lagos and they are Yorubas.. The Yorubas are the major tribe in Lagos...
Lagos just happen to be the most prosperous city in Nigeria and is thus open to everybody. If u say Lagos is a no man's land because of the ethnic diversity, then what will u call London, new York, Paris and the likes

forgiveness:
Besides, there was never a time I called anyone who regards KC as a quality player tribalist. It's other way round. Spare me the false accusations.

I may be wrong, but the bolded part of the below quote supports that sentiment

forgiveness:
Are all those people that adjourned Iheanachonaldo world worst XI striker of last season, world worst striker of the world cup and worst XI EPL striker of last season, tribal bigots too? Smh

The reason you and your cohorts can't accept the facts stirring at at your faces is because your are from the same place Iheanacho comes from. Yes! Because I perceive most are Igbos. Yes! Nothing more, nothing less.

What can be more tribal bigot than this?

Unfortunate, the world doesn't revolves around tribal sentiments reasoning. It is way beyond that and their verdicts have been given. These alone has vindicated my postulations.

Afterall, no bi me the so called Yoruba gave the verdicts. Deal with it man. Kiss the truth.

BTW, calling a fellow human being an animal because you disagree with them isn't something to be proud of neither is eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (You know my reference for that).

Again, it will be of good benefit to your well being to disabuse your mind from imagining that your fellow forumites are the basest of humans because they disagree with you. And don't use the excuse that they are doing the same as justification for your actions (Again, you know my reference for that).

forgiveness:
What makes a man differ from an animal is his conscience. Man has conscience but animal doesn't have.

With this, they can decipher btw good and bad but if they can't decipher btw right and wrong then they are animal.

safarigirl:
thanks for this

Lagos is the only state, aside Abuja, where University admission is not based on cachment area. What happened to indigenes there too? In the next hundred years, who will occupy Lagos? The indigenes of Lagos don't make up 15% of the population.

Those omoniles you speak of are not even indigenes, they are settlers like most of the people in Lagos. Lagos and Abuja are distinctly different from every other state in Nigeria, the only other state close to them is PH.

As far as I am concerned, Lagos has transcended tribal affiliations. It belongs to everybody and belongs to nobody. It was built by the blood and sweat of all Nigerians from all walks of life and all erhnicities, so, it is an injustice to omit those people, some spanning three generations, from Lagos, and refer to them as non-indigenes. And no, contrary to popular belief, the day Nigeria scatters, some people that are referred to as 'non-indigenes' will not have a hometown to go to, because their entire lives are in Lagos

@bolded ..you are very wrong..

Check: https://kevwesblog..com/2017/07/list-of-federal-universities-their.html?m=1

Danielnino00:
@bolded ..you are very wrong..

Check: https://kevwesblog..com/2017/07/list-of-federal-universities-their.html?m=1

i am not wrong.

Go and check the admission list of Unilag and compare it to the admission list of OAU. The level of diversity in Lagos is only rivalled by University of Abuja. I don't need to read anything from a blog, I am stating reality not ideal.


Compare an admission list from Unilag with one from OAU, count the number of non-Yoruba names and come and tell me your result. You will not find a more diverse list than Unilag aside University of Abuja.

tglobal:
I may be wrong, but the bolded part of the below quote supports that sentiment




BTW, calling a fellow human being an animal because you disagree with them isn't something to be proud of neither is eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (You know my reference for that).

Again, it will be of good benefit to your well being to disabuse your mind from imagining that your fellow forumites are the basest of humans because they disagree with you. And don't use the excuse that they are doing the same as justification for your actions (Again, you know my reference for that).

you no go leave that old man alone? Better look at my signature and stay woke. No be everybody post you suppose even read

safarigirl:
i am not wrong.

Go and check the admission list of Unilag and compare it to the admission list of OAU. The level of diversity in Lagos is only rivalled by University of Abuja. I don't need to read anything from a blog, I am stating reality not ideal.


Compare an admission list from Unilag with one from OAU, count the number of non-Yoruba names and come and tell me your result. You will not find a more diverse list than Unilag aside University of Abuja.

A percentage is reserved for catchment area in Unilag. It does not mean that they admit strictly on catchment areas.

The population of Unlilag reflects the diversity of the population. If a census is carried out in Unolag, it is still majority yoruba by far. I know, i was there about a century ago.

tbaba1234:
A percentage is reserved for catchment area in Unilag. It does not mean that they admit strictly on catchment areas.

The population of Unlilag reflects the diversity of the population. If a census is carried out in Unolag, it is still majority yoruba by far. I know, i was there about a century ago.

it is not a majority by far. I was admitted there less than a decade ago, I saw the list. I compared it with other schools.


if a census is carried out in Unilag, you would have 50% Yoruba and the other 50% would be other ethnicities. Do a census in OAU and you will find that 88% would be Yoruba, with 12% other ethnicities. Take a survey in UNN, that one is even worse. If you find up to hundred people in the entire school who aren't from the East or affiliated to the East in some way, you have done well


That is why I said Unilag is the most diverse school in Nigeria, only outdone by University of Abuja. The diversity in Unilag is not seen in other Universities. If they practiced cachnent area in strict terms, like everywhere else, you wouldn't find up to 40% of students that are not Yoruba


And I still insist that Yorubas are not the indigenes of Lagos, they are settlers. In another two hundred years, someone will call Igbos indigenes of Lagos, having settled there for centuries.

Guys, abeg, this Manuel Akanji playing with Dortmund, which country does he play for?

safarigirl:
Guys, abeg, this Manuel Akanji playing with Dortmund, which country does he play for?

Switzerland NT

Here's the reply I got on a comment I made on brila FM Facebook page regarding Iheanacho birthday post (d usual age cheat talk from Nigerians)

I'm a bit surprised.. is it possible??

tbaba1234 icon4s TheSuperNerd TheGoodJoe Komekn and other MRI experts on the thread,kindly shed more light on it....

Danielnino00:
Here's the reply I got on a comment I made on brila FM Facebook page regarding Iheanacho birthday post (d usual age cheat talk from Nigerians)

I'm a bit surprised.. is it possible??

tbaba1234 icon4s TheSuperNerd TheGoodJoe Komekn and other MRI experts on the thread,kindly shed more light on it....

He is most likely a liar.. Besides Iheanacho played through the youth ranks.

safarigirl:
thanks for this

Lagos is the only state, aside Abuja, where University admission is not based on cachment area. What happened to indigenes there too? In the next hundred years, who will occupy Lagos? The indigenes of Lagos don't make up 15% of the population.

Those omoniles you speak of are not even indigenes, they are settlers like most of the people in Lagos. Lagos and Abuja are distinctly different from every other state in Nigeria, the only other state close to them is PH.

As far as I am concerned, Lagos has transcended tribal affiliations. It belongs to everybody and belongs to nobody. It was built by the blood and sweat of all Nigerians from all walks of life and all erhnicities, so, it is an injustice to omit those people, some spanning three generations, from Lagos, and refer to them as non-indigenes. And no, contrary to popular belief, the day Nigeria scatters, some people that are referred to as 'non-indigenes' will not have a hometown to go to, because their entire lives are in Lagos

To call Lagos a no man's land is just an unnecessary attempt to rile people up. No matter how few the first settlers are compared to the current population, they are still the landowners. The case of calling 3rd generation descendants in a place non-indigenes is not peculiar to Lagos, it is the same all over Nigeria, there are people who were born in Ife, Onitcha, Kano, Benin in the 40s and 50s, their grandkids cant lay claim to being indigenes, what clan would you say you are from, the indigenes would promptly tell you how modern your history is in their place. As long as an indigene still remains, the land can never be a no man's land.. The American Indians are still accorded their respect as landowners despite their decimation and political castration, they are still called first Nation or Native Americans, this is to acknowledge the fact that they are the original landowners. Every Land you buy in Nigeria including Lagos has documents that acknowledges the original indigenous settlers as owners and any transfer of such land often involves these same families and the authenticity of your document is not complete without the evidence of original sale from these families. How can someone who has documents attesting to such ownership in his wardrobe then turn around and say he is living in no man's land...haba.
Despite the cosmopolitaness of London or England as a whole, the original indigenes are still acknowledge, you cant be a duke or lord if you are a 3rd or 10th generation british citizen, they wont ever bestow it on you.
If you are a british citizen, your rights as a citizen is well protected and respected according to the constitution, but you cant go and tell the lords and dukes that england is no mans land or because onitcha or benin is populated majorly by people from other parts of the east or west and then you go and say before the Obi of Onitcha, or Oba of Benin and other ancient families that Onitcha or Benin is no man's land, they can take off your head. Likewise in Lagos, your right should be protected as a citizen but dont because you have bought acres of land in Oniru or Ajah and then you go and meet Oniru, or Elegushi or Olumegbon that his domain is a no man's land. Such behavior wont be accepted in Lagos, Benin, Ife, Kano, Onitcha, Warri or London.

Those Omoniles causing havoc all over the place might not be from Lagos, but i tell you they are acting on behalf of one baale or oba, whose families can be traced hundreds of years to these places. All major towns in Lagos have what they call 'orile', the most popular Oriles are Orile Iganmu and Orile Agege, but all other towns have their oriles and if you know any of these oriles, that is where the most rundown ramshackled, ancient mud house and shrines are located. The oriles are the places where the indigenes first settled and their you will see the ancestral homes, idols, shrines of all the original settlers, all the masquerade houses are generally located in these areas, the sacrifices and festivals and oros are still managed by hereditary families. Propitiatory sacrifices are still been done in all major towns and villages in Lagos, how many Hausa man or Igbo or idoma man is part of these initiates. How many non-indigene has been honored with an Eyo burial festival
With all these structures still in place, the families managing them still very much in force etc, it would just be mere pontificating for a 3rd generation settler to tell these people, their land is no man's land. Let him try and destroy their shrine nah, or become the custodian of the shrine nah.
If we are talking to rile people up or get under their skin, it is understandable but to actually believe some what we say are true is baffling. Every Nook and Cranny in Lagos has its landowners and they are still very much in charge of their domain.

tglobal:
*What I am asking you to do will only make sense when you have the time, are in a good mood and not hell bent on finding reasons why you are right and every other person who regards KC as a quality player is a tribalist*

This was your assumption.

tglobal:
I may be wrong, but the bolded part of the below quote supports that sentiment

forgiveness:
Are all those people that adjourned Iheanachonaldo world worst XI striker of last season, world worst striker of the world cup and worst XI EPL striker of last season, tribal bigots too? Smh

The reason you and your cohorts can't accept the facts stirring at at your faces is because your are from the same place Iheanacho comes from. Yes! Because I perceive most are Igbos. Yes! Nothing more, nothing less.

What can be more tribal bigot than this?

Unfortunate, the world doesn't revolves around tribal sentiments reasoning. It is way beyond that and their verdicts have been given. These alone has vindicated my postulations.

Afterall, no bi me the so called Yoruba gave the verdicts. Deal with it man. Kiss the truth.

Where did you see me call every other person who regards KC quality tribalist in that post?

The bolded explained it all. See the snapshot for more details.

tglobal:
BTW, calling a fellow human being an animal because you disagree with them isn't something to be proud of neither is eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (You know my reference for that).

Again, it will be of good benefit to your well being to disabuse your mind from imagining that your fellow forumites are the basest of humans because they disagree with you. And don't use the excuse that they are doing the same as justification for your actions (Again, you know my reference for that).

You post wreck of double standard ladding with prejudice.

Besides, Every man is an animal but the one without knowledge makes it different from a man. Jer 10:14, Psalms 49:12.

I am not God who said so.

rabzy:
To call Lagos a no man's land is just an unnecessary attempt to rile people up. No matter how few the first settlers are compared to the current population, they are still the landowners. The case of calling 3rd generation descendants in a place non-indigenes is not peculiar to Lagos, it is the same all over Nigeria, there are people who were born in Ife, Onitcha, Kano, Benin in the 40s and 50s, their grandkids cant lay claim to being indigenes, what clan would you say you are from, the indigenes would promptly tell you how modern your history is in their place. As long as an indigene still remains, the land can never be a no man's land.. The American Indians are still accorded their respect as landowners despite their decimation and political castration, they are still called first Nation or Native Americans, this is to acknowledge the fact that they are the original landowners. Every Land you buy in Nigeria including Lagos has documents that acknowledges the original indigenous settlers as owners and any transfer of such land often involves these same families and the authenticity of your document is not complete without the evidence of original sale from these families. How can someone who has documents attesting to such ownership in his wardrobe then turn around and say he is living in no man's land...haba.
Despite the cosmopolitaness of London or England as a whole, the original indigenes are still acknowledge, you cant be a duke or lord if you are a 3rd or 10th generation british citizen, they wont ever bestow it on you.
If you are a british citizen, your rights as a citizen is well protected and respected according to the constitution, but you cant go and tell the lords and dukes that england is no mans land or because onitcha or benin is populated majorly by people from other parts of the east or west and then you go and say before the Obi of Onitcha, or Oba of Benin and other ancient families that Onitcha or Benin is no man's land, they can take off your head. Likewise in Lagos, your right should be protected as a citizen but dont because you have bought acres of land in Oniru or Ajah and then you go and meet Oniru, or Elegushi or Olumegbon that his domain is a no man's land. Such behavior wont be accepted in Lagos, Benin, Ife, Kano, Onitcha, Warri or London.

Those Omoniles causing havoc all over the place might not be from Lagos, but i tell you they are acting on behalf of one baale or oba, whose families can be traced hundreds of years to these places. All major towns in Lagos have what they call 'orile', the most popular Oriles are Orile Iganmu and Orile Agege, but all other towns have their oriles and if you know any of these oriles, that is where the most rundown ramshackled, ancient mud house and shrines are located. The oriles are the places where the indigenes first settled and their you will see the ancestral homes, idols, shrines of all the original settlers, all the masquerade houses are generally located in these areas, the sacrifices and festivals and oros are still managed by hereditary families. Propitiatory sacrifices are still been done in all major towns and villages in Lagos, how many Hausa man or Igbo or idoma man is part of these initiates. How many non-indigene has been honored with an Eyo burial festival
With all these structures still in place, the families managing them still very much in force etc, it would just be mere pontificating for a 3rd generation settler to tell these people, their land is no man's land. Let him try and destroy their shrine nah, or become the custodian of the shrine nah.
If we are talking to rile people up or get under their skin, it is understandable but to actually believe some what we say are true is baffling. Every Nook and Cranny in Lagos has its landowners and they are still very much in charge of their domain.

E.O.D

safarigirl:
it is not a majority by far. I was admitted there less than a decade ago, I saw the list. I compared it with other schools.


if a census is carried out in Unilag, you would have 50% Yoruba and the other 50% would be other ethnicities. Do a census in OAU and you will find that 88% would be Yoruba, with 12% other ethnicities. Take a survey in UNN, that one is even worse. If you find up to hundred people in the entire school who aren't from the East or affiliated to the East in some way, you have done well


That is why I said Unilag is the most diverse school in Nigeria, only outdone by University of Abuja. The diversity in Unilag is not seen in other Universities. If they practiced cachnent area in strict terms, like everywhere else, you wouldn't find up to 40% of students that are not Yoruba


And I still insist that Yorubas are not the indigenes of Lagos, they are settlers. In another two hundred years, someone will call Igbos indigenes of Lagos, having settled there for centuries.

Very funny.

Indigenes and settlers, wetin be difference?

tbaba1234:
He is most likely a liar.. Besides Iheanacho played through the youth ranks.

But is it really possible for somebody close to 30 to pass an MRI??

safarigirl:
And I still insist that Yorubas are not the indigenes of Lagos, they are settlers. In another two hundred years, someone will call Igbos indigenes of Lagos, having settled there for centuries.

All these are relative terms, who was born from the land, everyone came from somewhere, everybody is a settler no matter how obscure the history is. The original settlers of Lagos came from different places, people came from different parts of the yoruba hinterland and became first settlers, some came as warriors and soldiers from benin kingdom and became indigenous settlers, others from Togo, Benin Axis into Badagry and became original landowners. These people came, discovered, lay claim to the land without dispute or fend off all disputes, settled created a functioning society, a system of government and an identity. They became the the indigenes and original landowners, all other people came to identify with them.
While the White Americans and African Americans may rightly have become indigenous to American, 'Indigenity' still get levels. If you type indigenous Americans in google, you will just get pages full of information about the Native Americans or American indians, not olaidah equino or harriet tubman or kunta kinte not even George Washington. You can also try Indigenous Australians and wonder why 300 years history of white Australians still does not make them 'indigenous australians'.

safarigirl:
it is not a majority by far. I was admitted there less than a decade ago, I saw the list. I compared it with other schools.


if a census is carried out in Unilag, you would have 50% Yoruba and the other 50% would be other ethnicities. Do a census in OAU and you will find that 88% would be Yoruba, with 12% other ethnicities. Take a survey in UNN, that one is even worse. If you find up to hundred people in the entire school who aren't from the East or affiliated to the East in some way, you have done well


That is why I said Unilag is the most diverse school in Nigeria, only outdone by University of Abuja. The diversity in Unilag is not seen in other Universities. If they practiced cachnent area in strict terms, like everywhere else, you wouldn't find up to 40% of students that are not Yoruba


And I still insist that Yorubas are not the indigenes of Lagos, they are settlers. In another two hundred years, someone will call Igbos indigenes of Lagos, having settled there for centuries.

Unilag simply reflects the diversity of Lagos but Yorubas are by far still the dominant population. If development comes to other states,you will see more people emigrate there and you will have more diversity in their Universities.

The problem is that development is not evenly spread.

I was in Nigeria for a charity event a few years back and i visited a community that could trace their ancestry back to more than 400 years ago. How can you look at that population and say they are not indigenes.

Everyone was once a settler if you want to be technical.

Danielnino00:
But is it really possible for somebody close to 30 to pass an MRI??

It is unlikely

Danielnino00:
Here's the reply I got on a comment I made on brila FM Facebook page regarding Iheanacho birthday post (d usual age cheat talk from Nigerians)

I'm a bit surprised.. is it possible??

tbaba1234 icon4s TheSuperNerd TheGoodJoe Komekn and other MRI experts on the thread,kindly shed more light on it....

Event if he is saying the truth. We know Iheanacho and co were toddlers who grew through the youth ranks before they reached puberty in our two korokoro eyes. They might be a year or two years older but 30 na lie.