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The Story Of Josephus: The Man Who Helped Christians With Fake History by OtemAtum: 4:00pm On Oct 08, 2018
The christians anchor the falsehood of their religion on the shoulders of one false historian named Josephus. Here is an excerpt from the book of truth concerning him:

Chapter Twelve

1. Josephus was a male homo sapiens born in the 280,037th year of the homo sapiens era, the same is the 37CE. Now Josepehus was the son of Matthias, a wealthy priest of Iudaea.
2. The name of his mother was Phasaelis, who was a former wife of Herod Antipater. Now when Phasaelis had been divorced by Herod, she met Matthias and he loved her and married her.
3. Now Josephus and his elder brother schooled in a very good school in Jerusalem. Then they learnt so much concerning the Torah and the Greek philosophies. Now on the sabbath day, Josephus was found in the field of his father.
4. Then the Sanhendrin judged him guilty, commanding that he should be beaten with forty-nine lashes of the whip. Then Josephus cried out and said, let none of you Saducees lay hands on me. You know who my father is.
5. Now one of the teachers of the law, who was a member of the Saducees said, keep quiet you little boy. You have gone to school and we have taught you the Torah how that no one should pollute the sabbath day of Yahweh, but you have deliberately polluted it by working in the field of your father on this day of rest.
6. You should rejoice that we have not pronounced a judgement of death upon you, according to that which is written in the Torah concerning a man who worked on the sabbath day and Yahweh our god declared that he should be stoned to death.
7. Then according to the Torah, he was stoned to death.
8. Therefore there is no way you will escape punishment. I counsel you that you should take this minor punishment in good faith, for forty-nine lashes of the whip will not kill you.
9. Now when the whipper raised his whip to flog Josephus, he cried out and said, you are a whipper in the sanhendrin. This is your work. Will you perform this work in the sabbath day by whipping me?
10. If you do so, you shall receive even a greater judgement.
11. When Josephus had said this, the whipper dropped his raised hand and looked at the little boy in shock. Then another asked the boy, saying, how old are you? Then he said, I am eleven years old.
12. Then the head of the Sanhendrin said, you speak more intelligently than an eleven year old child. Now we have no power to handle your case. Therefore we shall direct the case to the higher council.
13. Now when the case had reached the higher council, Matthias the father of Josephus bribed the members of the higher council, who were all almost Saducees. Then they did not carry the case further.
14. Now for the bribe which the Saducees collected, Josephus began to hate them, saying, they are all hypocrites and liars. Since then, Josephus began to think concerning his religion. Soon, he realised that all religions were man-made.
15. However, he pretended as if he was not aware of the secret behind religion. He defended all the wrong actions of Yahweh his god as recorded in the Torah.
16. Now when Josephus was growing into a youth, he was dissatisfied with the infiltration of the Romans. He hated anything Roman so much that he went to a pace called Gischala to join himself to a rebel named Johanan.
17. Now Johanan said to Josephus, you have come at the right time, young boy. You are but a teenager but you will be useful in the fight against these Romans who trouble us day and night.
18. We zealots are not as evil as even some submissive Jews had painted us. We fight to protect our land from being totally taken by the Romans. We do not fight with ourselves but with our oppressors.
19. But the priests of our land, fearing not to lose their priesthood to an emergence of violence by our acts, have cursed us by the name of Yahweh our god. They have declared us as the enemy of both the nation Israel as a whole and of the Romans.
20. Therefore we could be attacked from both sides. Because of this, we are ready and fully prepared all the time.
21. We have one great enemy in the name of Ananus the high priest. He has spoilt the minds of the people of Galilee and all its villages against us. The people of Yodfat watch carefully to see that their children do not join our force. They warned them, saying, it is against the laws of our god to become a zealot.
22. And Ananus had predicted that five years from now, the zealot would have been cut off the face of the earth, because no one in Judea or even Samaria will join our force.
23. Now Josephus, you are a young man and well learned. And if you can campaign for we zealots, then we shall havea population which shall surpass even the population of those who come to worship in the temple during the feasts.
24. Now Josephus who already hated the high priest Ananus and anything called Judaism for its hypocrisy did accept the offer of Johanan and his hatred for Ananus became even greater than that which Johanan himself had for Ananus.
25. When Matthias the father of Josephus had heard how Josephus had become a zealot, he disowned him and did not seek after him anymore.
26. Now Josephus went to speak intelligently with the young ones. And because of his mastery of words and his education, the young ones joined themselves to the zealots in multitude.
27. Then the zealots went and took over the temple of Jerusalem, driving out the priests and all the old ones in it. And from then, the zealots took over the temple, handling all the functions in it.
28. Now Josephus and Johanan appointed young priests to function in the temple. Then the priests and many other officials in the temple dealt corruptly with the worshippers. They raped young children, played gambling and drank to stupor in the temple.
29. They also kept stolen items in the temple and sold them to the people who came to worship there. Now the corruption in the temple was so great that Nero, being the emperor of the Romans sent soldiers to the temple, saying, go and find out the level of corruption with the people of our province Iudaea.
30. For I have heard that the place which they called a temple is only a hideout for thieves and rebels. See that you bring the priests who are found guilty to me here, for I do not tolerate dirty religious activities.
31. The prisons are filled with the religious ones who cause uproar and riots everywhere and I still am not tired of capturing them. For they are to blame for all manner of ugly occurences as a result of their negligence.
32. So the soldiers of Rome went and took fifteen priests from the temple an brought them to Nero. Then they were all imprisoned.
33. When Johanan heard this, he sent Josephus to go and speak with the cruel emperor for their release. Now Johanan did so, thinking that by doing so, Josephus would be killed by Nero.
34. For already, Josephus had gained much name among the zealots and Johanan feared that he would be surpassed by Josephus with time. So he sent him to Nero, thinking that he(Josephus) being only twenty-two years would have no experience to stand before Nero.
35. Now Josephus secretly gathered a large multitude in Galilee and said, I have been sent on a mission to bring back some preists imprisoned by Nero. You know how Nero does all things for himself alone, regarding no one, not even our god.
36. But I know that by the grace of our god, his heart shall be touched and he will release the priests to us. Now fast and pray for me in the name of Yahweh that I may find grace and favour in the sight of Nero.
37. Now Josephus had done this in order to win the hearts of the people of Galilee to himself, for he had desired to become the governor of that land. For the people of Galilee would now think of him as a devout worshipper of Yahweh their god because he had said to them, fast and pray for me in the name of Yahweh our god.
38. So Josephus went to Nero and spoke intelligently with him. And Nero loved the manner of his speech. And he said to him, I will release them to you on one condition: you will continously pay me a half of the proceedings of the temple monthly.
39. Then I will not trouble the temple anymore. Only pay me what I have asked for.
40. So Josephus agreed to do as Nero had said. Then he was led to see the priests who were held in prison. But one of them had died already.
41. Now while Josephus was seeing his priests in their wards, he saw a bald man of about fifty years in the prison also. And he said, who are you and why are you here? Then the man said, I am Paul of Tarsus, the preacher of Iesus Christus, the saviour.
42. When Josephus heard what Paul had said, he became interested immediately. And he asked the warden to permit him go in to Paul and speak at length with him. Then he was granted his request.

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Re: The Story Of Josephus: The Man Who Helped Christians With Fake History by OtemAtum: 4:02pm On Oct 08, 2018
43. Now Paul told Josephus about his religion, saying, the god whom I preach is the son of god Iesus Christus. He died on the crucifix for the sins of the world. This man committed no offence but he was killed.
44. Now when Josephus had listened attentively, he said, I have heard how some Romans testify this also, but I have not found any evidence that this god whom you speak about exists.
45. I have spent my childhood in Iudaea of the Romans, but there is no sign that such fellow existed. Now elder, if you tell me the exact truth about this god, I shall by my power let you go free from this prison, both you and your colleague.
46. But if you do not tell me the truth, I will let you remain there and get killed, even as it has been planned that you would be killed next month. Now Paul agreed to tell Josephus all the truth concerning his religion.
47. So Josephus, being popular among the wardens, bribed Simon, one of the wardens, saying, let these two go free. So Paul and Silas his counterpart who had been imprisoned were set free at night.
48. And Paul told Josephus everything about Christianity, saying, I pray you, tell this secret to no one. I have discovered the hypocrisy of Judaism and I thought to make a better religion.
49. Truly, Philo is involved in this, for he did put his effort in making up this god Iesus Christus before he died. Now if I will find favour in your sight, do everything in your power to see that this religion is believed by all.
50. Are you not an influential person? So it is within your power to do this.
51. Now Josephus said, even I am tired of Judaism. For the Saducees and the Sanhendrin did make it loathsome to me in my teenage years. And I sought how to begin another religion, but did not so till these days.
52. Now tell me how I can be of help to you and so will I do. I am he whom many look up to, therefore you can count on me to help your religion. For I will write histories of the Jewish people of which I belong.
53. And I may put as a sidenote something which will make this Christus seem real to the generations to come, forever and ever. But you will not get this for free, rather, you shall pay a sum of money and this will I do for you.
54. Now Paul and Silas his companion left the prison and the warden went about to tell lies to declare in tears that the prison opened by itself after a great shaking. And when the matter was reported to Nero, he said, this story is childish and senseless, for it seem to have come out of the mouths of fools who themselves think that everyone is a fool.
55. Now take the warden and cast him in prison, so that he could replace the prisoners whom he had set free. So the warden named Simon was imprisoned instead of Paul and Silas for telling a story which was not genuine in defending himself.
56. Now when Josephus had returned to Galilee with thirteen priests, the people of Yodfat and the whole of Galilee rejoiced and sought to make him their ruler.
57.(Now Josephus had killed two of the priests on their way back to Iudaea because the two priests condemned his act of negotiation with Nero, saying, you are a greater sinner than Nero himself, therefore we will declare it in Jerusalem).
58. So Josephus killed the two priests named Aaron and Mehujael and buried them in Rome, under an oak tree.
59. Now when Josephus had received much support from the people, he was made a ruler. But Johanan, the head of the zealots was displeased, because himself had coveted the rulership position of Galilee.
60. Now the supporters of Johanan fought vehemently against the supporters of Josephus in Bersabe, Gischala and even in Arraba, which were the places where Johanan had more supporters than Josephus.
61. The Sanhendrin also supported Johanan and decreed him as the governor, for they brought up the offence of Josephus against him, saying, when he was a teenager, he polluted the Sabbath day.
62. But the allegation brought against him was not strong enough, because his supporters said, if he has received the forgiveness of Yahweh our god, who then are we to condemn him. For this same Josephus was he who fasted and prayed with us and got the favour of Nero in releasing the priests to us.
63. So the answer to his prayers by Yahweh is an assurance that he is now found faultless before him. For we know that Yahweh will not answer the prayers of the guilty.
64. Now Josephus remained the governor of Galilee over Johanan.
65. Now when Josephus began to rule, he determined not to pay his vow to Nero, the emperor of Rome. Rather, he began to make strong walls and to strengthen the cities and villages under his control.
66. And he said, rather than paying my vows to Nero the beast, we shall give them a fight. So Josephus continued to resist the attacks of the Romans. He fought vehemently until the General of the Roman army named Vespasian, of a family named Flavius, captured him.
67. Now when Josephus had been captured by Vespasian, Annanus the priest found it an opportunity enough to reclaim the temple of Jerusalem and to become influential in Jerusalem once more. So he gathered strong men who will go in might and surround the temple so that none of the Zealots in it would be able to go out or come into it.
68. Then by so doing, they would run out of food and daily needs and become too weak to fight back.
69. Now Johanan said to the zealots, what shall we do now, for the temple is now surrounded by the forces of Ananus? We cannot go out of it anymore. Now the zealots said, master, let two to three of us escape through the secret way and let us go into the city to seek the support of the people.
70. For you know how Jerusalem at this moment supports we zealots who resist the Romans day and night. Certainly, if the people of Jerusalem knows that we have been surrounded, they would have come in multitude to fight for us.
71. Now Johanan said, it is the truth. Now let three men go to the city and make known to the Jews that the temple is under siege by the enemies and they shall destroy the temple in a short time if they do not come against them on time.
72. I have estimated the number of the forces of Ananus to be three thousand five hundred men and we are but a thousand men. Therefore we are not much enough to challenge them to a fight, man to man.
73. Therefore, let at least eight thousand Jews follow you here. Then shall they shall surround our surrounders and we shall have them at the middle. So while the Jews attack them from the outside, we shall attack them from inside. And the battle shall be ours to win.
74. Now three men named Maathan, Jonathon and Sadok were sent to escape into the city through the secret way. And they watched carefully and escaped. When they had reached the city, they said to them, Ananus has defected to the sides of the Romans and they are now laying a siege against the temple.
75. If you do not hurry to come with us, they shall destroy the temple.
76. When the Jews heard this, they assembled the youths and the strong men. And when they had been counted, they had only three thousand and seventy-two men. Then they said, we cannot continue to wait until we could have eight thousand people to join this force.
77. Let us seek the assistance of the Idumeans who themselves hate the Romans with passion. So they went to the Idumeans and sought their assistance, for the Jews had themselves often assisted the Idumeans in fighting against their enemies.
78. So three thousand four hundred and eighteen Idumeans went with them to fight. And altogether, they had about six thousand five hundred men to go against the forces of Ananus.
79. Now when Ananus was of the thought that the zealots in the temple would by now be out of food and drinks and be weak, he said to his men, let us go in to them now and attack them. Now before they could make a move, some of them began to rush towards them, saying, we have been surrounded by a larger number of people.
80. Now when Ananus and his men heard this, they were confused. Then the Jews and Idumeans attacked them from without. While they struggled with them, the zealots came out and attacked them from within.
81. So Ananus and his men were defeated, but Ananus took a sword and stabbed himself before his attackers could lay their hands on him. And he fell down dead.

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Re: The Story Of Josephus: The Man Who Helped Christians With Fake History by Righteousness89(m): 4:27pm On Oct 08, 2018
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OtemAtum:
43. Now Paul told Josephus about his religion, saying, the god whom I preach is the son of god Iesus Christus. He died on the crucifix for the sins of the world. This man committed no offence but he was killed.
44. Now when Josephus had listened attentively, he said, I have heard how some Romans testify this also, but I have not found any evidence that this god whom you speak about exists.
45. I have spent my childhood in Iudaea of the Romans, but there is no sign that such fellow existed. Now elder, if you tell me the exact truth about this god, I shall by my power let you go free from this prison, both you and your colleague.
46. But if you do not tell me the truth, I will let you remain there and get killed, even as it has been planned that you would be killed next month. Now Paul agreed to tell Josephus all the truth concerning his religion.
47. So Josephus, being popular among the wardens, bribed Simon, one of the wardens, saying, let these two go free. So Paul and Silas his counterpart who had been imprisoned were set free at night.
48. And Paul told Josephus everything about Christianity, saying, I pray you, tell this secret to no one. I have discovered the hypocrisy of Judaism and I thought to make a better religion.
49. Truly, Philo is involved in this, for he did put his effort in making up this god Iesus Christus before he died. Now if I will find favour in your sight, do everything in your power to see that this religion is believed by all.
50. Are you not an influential person? So it is within your power to do this.
51. Now Josephus said, even I am tired of Judaism. For the Saducees and the Sanhendrin did make it loathsome to me in my teenage years. And I sought how to begin another religion, but did not so till these days.
52. Now tell me how I can be of help to you and so will I do. I am he whom many look up to, therefore you can count on me to help your religion. For I will write histories of the Jewish people of which I belong.
53. And I may put as a sidenote something which will make this Christus seem real to the generations to come, forever and ever. But you will not get this for free, rather, you shall pay a sum of money and this will I do for you.
54. Now Paul and Silas his companion left the prison and the warden went about to tell lies to declare in tears that the prison opened by itself after a great shaking. And when the matter was reported to Nero, he said, this story is childish and senseless, for it seem to have come out of the mouths of fools who themselves think that everyone is a fool.
55. Now take the warden and cast him in prison, so that he could replace the prisoners whom he had set free. So the warden named Simon was imprisoned instead of Paul and Silas for telling a story which was not genuine in defending himself.
56. Now when Josephus had returned to Galilee with thirteen priests, the people of Yodfat and the whole of Galilee rejoiced and sought to make him their ruler.
57.(Now Josephus had killed two of the priests on their way back to Iudaea because the two priests condemned his act of negotiation with Nero, saying, you are a greater sinner than Nero himself, therefore we will declare it in Jerusalem).
58. So Josephus killed the two priests named Aaron and Mehujael and buried them in Rome, under an oak tree.
59. Now when Josephus had received much support from the people, he was made a ruler. But Johanan, the head of the zealots was displeased, because himself had coveted the rulership position of Galilee.
60. Now the supporters of Johanan fought vehemently against the supporters of Josephus in Bersabe, Gischala and even in Arraba, which were the places where Johanan had more supporters than Josephus.
61. The Sanhendrin also supported Johanan and decreed him as the governor, for they brought up the offence of Josephus against him, saying, when he was a teenager, he polluted the Sabbath day.
62. But the allegation brought against him was not strong enough, because his supporters said, if he has received the forgiveness of Yahweh our god, who then are we to condemn him. For this same Josephus was he who fasted and prayed with us and got the favour of Nero in releasing the priests to us.
63. So the answer to his prayers by Yahweh is an assurance that he is now found faultless before him. For we know that Yahweh will not answer the prayers of the guilty.
64. Now Josephus remained the governor of Galilee over Johanan.
65. Now when Josephus began to rule, he determined not to pay his vow to Nero, the emperor of Rome. Rather, he began to make strong walls and to strengthen the cities and villages under his control.
66. And he said, rather than paying my vows to Nero the beast, we shall give them a fight. So Josephus continued to resist the attacks of the Romans. He fought vehemently until the General of the Roman army named Vespasian, of a family named Flavius, captured him.
67. Now when Josephus had been captured by Vespasian, Annanus the priest found it an opportunity enough to reclaim the temple of Jerusalem and to become influential in Jerusalem once more. So he gathered strong men who will go in might and surround the temple so that none of the Zealots in it would be able to go out or come into it.
68. Then by so doing, they would run out of food and daily needs and become too weak to fight back.
69. Now Johanan said to the zealots, what shall we do now, for the temple is now surrounded by the forces of Ananus? We cannot go out of it anymore. Now the zealots said, master, let two to three of us escape through the secret way and let us go into the city to seek the support of the people.
70. For you know how Jerusalem at this moment supports we zealots who resist the Romans day and night. Certainly, if the people of Jerusalem knows that we have been surrounded, they would have come in multitude to fight for us.
71. Now Johanan said, it is the truth. Now let three men go to the city and make known to the Jews that the temple is under siege by the enemies and they shall destroy the temple in a short time if they do not come against them on time.
72. I have estimated the number of the forces of Ananus to be three thousand five hundred men and we are but a thousand men. Therefore we are not much enough to challenge them to a fight, man to man.
73. Therefore, let at least eight thousand Jews follow you here. Then shall they shall surround our surrounders and we shall have them at the middle. So while the Jews attack them from the outside, we shall attack them from inside. And the battle shall be ours to win.
74. Now three men named Maathan, Jonathon and Sadok were sent to escape into the city through the secret way. And they watched carefully and escaped. When they had reached the city, they said to them, Ananus has defected to the sides of the Romans and they are now laying a siege against the temple.
75. If you do not hurry to come with us, they shall destroy the temple.
76. When the Jews heard this, they assembled the youths and the strong men. And when they had been counted, they had only three thousand and seventy-two men. Then they said, we cannot continue to wait until we could have eight thousand people to join this force.
77. Let us seek the assistance of the Idumeans who themselves hate the Romans with passion. So they went to the Idumeans and sought their assistance, for the Jews had themselves often assisted the Idumeans in fighting against their enemies.
78. So three thousand four hundred and eighteen Idumeans went with them to fight. And altogether, they had about six thousand five hundred men to go against the forces of Ananus.
79. Now when Ananus was of the thought that the zealots in the temple would by now be out of food and drinks and be weak, he said to his men, let us go in to them now and attack them. Now before they could make a move, some of them began to rush towards them, saying, we have been surrounded by a larger number of people.
80. Now when Ananus and his men heard this, they were confused. Then the Jews and Idumeans attacked them from without. While they struggled with them, the zealots came out and attacked them from within.
81. So Ananus and his men were defeated, but Ananus took a sword and stabbed himself before his attackers could lay their hands on him. And he fell down dead.
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Re: The Story Of Josephus: The Man Who Helped Christians With Fake History by bobydo: 8:33pm On Oct 08, 2018
OtemAtum:
43. Now Paul told Josephus about his religion, saying, the god whom I preach is the son of god Iesus Christus. He died on the crucifix for the sins of the world. This man committed no offence but he was killed.
44. Now when Josephus had listened attentively, he said, I have heard how some Romans testify this also, but I have not found any evidence that this god whom you speak about exists.
45. I have spent my childhood in Iudaea of the Romans, but there is no sign that such fellow existed. Now elder, if you tell me the exact truth about this god, I shall by my power let you go free from this prison, both you and your colleague.
46. But if you do not tell me the truth, I will let you remain there and get killed, even as it has been planned that you would be killed next month. Now Paul agreed to tell Josephus all the truth concerning his religion.
47. So Josephus, being popular among the wardens, bribed Simon, one of the wardens, saying, let these two go free. So Paul and Silas his counterpart who had been imprisoned were set free at night.
48. And Paul told Josephus everything about Christianity, saying, I pray you, tell this secret to no one. I have discovered the hypocrisy of Judaism and I thought to make a better religion.
49. Truly, Philo is involved in this, for he did put his effort in making up this god Iesus Christus before he died. Now if I will find favour in your sight, do everything in your power to see that this religion is believed by all.
50. Are you not an influential person? So it is within your power to do this.
51. Now Josephus said, even I am tired of Judaism. For the Saducees and the Sanhendrin did make it loathsome to me in my teenage years. And I sought how to begin another religion, but did not so till these days.
52. Now tell me how I can be of help to you and so will I do. I am he whom many look up to, therefore you can count on me to help your religion. For I will write histories of the Jewish people of which I belong.
53. And I may put as a sidenote something which will make this Christus seem real to the generations to come, forever and ever. But you will not get this for free, rather, you shall pay a sum of money and this will I do for you.
54. Now Paul and Silas his companion left the prison and the warden went about to tell lies to declare in tears that the prison opened by itself after a great shaking. And when the matter was reported to Nero, he said, this story is childish and senseless, for it seem to have come out of the mouths of fools who themselves think that everyone is a fool.
55. Now take the warden and cast him in prison, so that he could replace the prisoners whom he had set free. So the warden named Simon was imprisoned instead of Paul and Silas for telling a story which was not genuine in defending himself.
56. Now when Josephus had returned to Galilee with thirteen priests, the people of Yodfat and the whole of Galilee rejoiced and sought to make him their ruler.
57.(Now Josephus had killed two of the priests on their way back to Iudaea because the two priests condemned his act of negotiation with Nero, saying, you are a greater sinner than Nero himself, therefore we will declare it in Jerusalem).
58. So Josephus killed the two priests named Aaron and Mehujael and buried them in Rome, under an oak tree.
59. Now when Josephus had received much support from the people, he was made a ruler. But Johanan, the head of the zealots was displeased, because himself had coveted the rulership position of Galilee.
60. Now the supporters of Johanan fought vehemently against the supporters of Josephus in Bersabe, Gischala and even in Arraba, which were the places where Johanan had more supporters than Josephus.
61. The Sanhendrin also supported Johanan and decreed him as the governor, for they brought up the offence of Josephus against him, saying, when he was a teenager, he polluted the Sabbath day.
62. But the allegation brought against him was not strong enough, because his supporters said, if he has received the forgiveness of Yahweh our god, who then are we to condemn him. For this same Josephus was he who fasted and prayed with us and got the favour of Nero in releasing the priests to us.
63. So the answer to his prayers by Yahweh is an assurance that he is now found faultless before him. For we know that Yahweh will not answer the prayers of the guilty.
64. Now Josephus remained the governor of Galilee over Johanan.
65. Now when Josephus began to rule, he determined not to pay his vow to Nero, the emperor of Rome. Rather, he began to make strong walls and to strengthen the cities and villages under his control.
66. And he said, rather than paying my vows to Nero the beast, we shall give them a fight. So Josephus continued to resist the attacks of the Romans. He fought vehemently until the General of the Roman army named Vespasian, of a family named Flavius, captured him.
67. Now when Josephus had been captured by Vespasian, Annanus the priest found it an opportunity enough to reclaim the temple of Jerusalem and to become influential in Jerusalem once more. So he gathered strong men who will go in might and surround the temple so that none of the Zealots in it would be able to go out or come into it.
68. Then by so doing, they would run out of food and daily needs and become too weak to fight back.
69. Now Johanan said to the zealots, what shall we do now, for the temple is now surrounded by the forces of Ananus? We cannot go out of it anymore. Now the zealots said, master, let two to three of us escape through the secret way and let us go into the city to seek the support of the people.
70. For you know how Jerusalem at this moment supports we zealots who resist the Romans day and night. Certainly, if the people of Jerusalem knows that we have been surrounded, they would have come in multitude to fight for us.
71. Now Johanan said, it is the truth. Now let three men go to the city and make known to the Jews that the temple is under siege by the enemies and they shall destroy the temple in a short time if they do not come against them on time.
72. I have estimated the number of the forces of Ananus to be three thousand five hundred men and we are but a thousand men. Therefore we are not much enough to challenge them to a fight, man to man.
73. Therefore, let at least eight thousand Jews follow you here. Then shall they shall surround our surrounders and we shall have them at the middle. So while the Jews attack them from the outside, we shall attack them from inside. And the battle shall be ours to win.
74. Now three men named Maathan, Jonathon and Sadok were sent to escape into the city through the secret way. And they watched carefully and escaped. When they had reached the city, they said to them, Ananus has defected to the sides of the Romans and they are now laying a siege against the temple.
75. If you do not hurry to come with us, they shall destroy the temple.
76. When the Jews heard this, they assembled the youths and the strong men. And when they had been counted, they had only three thousand and seventy-two men. Then they said, we cannot continue to wait until we could have eight thousand people to join this force.
77. Let us seek the assistance of the Idumeans who themselves hate the Romans with passion. So they went to the Idumeans and sought their assistance, for the Jews had themselves often assisted the Idumeans in fighting against their enemies.
78. So three thousand four hundred and eighteen Idumeans went with them to fight. And altogether, they had about six thousand five hundred men to go against the forces of Ananus.
79. Now when Ananus was of the thought that the zealots in the temple would by now be out of food and drinks and be weak, he said to his men, let us go in to them now and attack them. Now before they could make a move, some of them began to rush towards them, saying, we have been surrounded by a larger number of people.
80. Now when Ananus and his men heard this, they were confused. Then the Jews and Idumeans attacked them from without. While they struggled with them, the zealots came out and attacked them from within.
81. So Ananus and his men were defeated, but Ananus took a sword and stabbed himself before his attackers could lay their hands on him. And he fell down dead.
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Re: The Story Of Josephus: The Man Who Helped Christians With Fake History by tolugar: 10:19pm On Oct 08, 2018
i googled the Josephus and the rest was history.

I believe as humans we learn new things daily and I just did thanks to op.

No need of arguing what you don't really know.

Google it and you will be amazed.



Thanks op.
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43. Now Paul told Josephus about his religion, saying, the god whom I preach is the son of god Iesus Christus. He died on the crucifix for the sins of the world. This man committed no offence but he was killed.
44. Now when Josephus had listened attentively, he said, I have heard how some Romans testify this also, but I have not found any evidence that this god whom you speak about exists.
45. I have spent my childhood in Iudaea of the Romans, but there is no sign that such fellow existed. Now elder, if you tell me the exact truth about this god, I shall by my power let you go free from this prison, both you and your colleague.
46. But if you do not tell me the truth, I will let you remain there and get killed, even as it has been planned that you would be killed next month. Now Paul agreed to tell Josephus all the truth concerning his religion.
47. So Josephus, being popular among the wardens, bribed Simon, one of the wardens, saying, let these two go free. So Paul and Silas his counterpart who had been imprisoned were set free at night.
48. And Paul told Josephus everything about Christianity, saying, I pray you, tell this secret to no one. I have discovered the hypocrisy of Judaism and I thought to make a better religion.
49. Truly, Philo is involved in this, for he did put his effort in making up this god Iesus Christus before he died. Now if I will find favour in your sight, do everything in your power to see that this religion is believed by all.
50. Are you not an influential person? So it is within your power to do this.
51. Now Josephus said, even I am tired of Judaism. For the Saducees and the Sanhendrin did make it loathsome to me in my teenage years. And I sought how to begin another religion, but did not so till these days.
52. Now tell me how I can be of help to you and so will I do. I am he whom many look up to, therefore you can count on me to help your religion. For I will write histories of the Jewish people of which I belong.
53. And I may put as a sidenote something which will make this Christus seem real to the generations to come, forever and ever. But you will not get this for free, rather, you shall pay a sum of money and this will I do for you.
54. Now Paul and Silas his companion left the prison and the warden went about to tell lies to declare in tears that the prison opened by itself after a great shaking. And when the matter was reported to Nero, he said, this story is childish and senseless, for it seem to have come out of the mouths of fools who themselves think that everyone is a fool.
55. Now take the warden and cast him in prison, so that he could replace the prisoners whom he had set free. So the warden named Simon was imprisoned instead of Paul and Silas for telling a story which was not genuine in defending himself.
56. Now when Josephus had returned to Galilee with thirteen priests, the people of Yodfat and the whole of Galilee rejoiced and sought to make him their ruler.
57.(Now Josephus had killed two of the priests on their way back to Iudaea because the two priests condemned his act of negotiation with Nero, saying, you are a greater sinner than Nero himself, therefore we will declare it in Jerusalem).
58. So Josephus killed the two priests named Aaron and Mehujael and buried them in Rome, under an oak tree.
59. Now when Josephus had received much support from the people, he was made a ruler. But Johanan, the head of the zealots was displeased, because himself had coveted the rulership position of Galilee.
60. Now the supporters of Johanan fought vehemently against the supporters of Josephus in Bersabe, Gischala and even in Arraba, which were the places where Johanan had more supporters than Josephus.
61. The Sanhendrin also supported Johanan and decreed him as the governor, for they brought up the offence of Josephus against him, saying, when he was a teenager, he polluted the Sabbath day.
62. But the allegation brought against him was not strong enough, because his supporters said, if he has received the forgiveness of Yahweh our god, who then are we to condemn him. For this same Josephus was he who fasted and prayed with us and got the favour of Nero in releasing the priests to us.
63. So the answer to his prayers by Yahweh is an assurance that he is now found faultless before him. For we know that Yahweh will not answer the prayers of the guilty.
64. Now Josephus remained the governor of Galilee over Johanan.
65. Now when Josephus began to rule, he determined not to pay his vow to Nero, the emperor of Rome. Rather, he began to make strong walls and to strengthen the cities and villages under his control.
66. And he said, rather than paying my vows to Nero the beast, we shall give them a fight. So Josephus continued to resist the attacks of the Romans. He fought vehemently until the General of the Roman army named Vespasian, of a family named Flavius, captured him.
67. Now when Josephus had been captured by Vespasian, Annanus the priest found it an opportunity enough to reclaim the temple of Jerusalem and to become influential in Jerusalem once more. So he gathered strong men who will go in might and surround the temple so that none of the Zealots in it would be able to go out or come into it.
68. Then by so doing, they would run out of food and daily needs and become too weak to fight back.
69. Now Johanan said to the zealots, what shall we do now, for the temple is now surrounded by the forces of Ananus? We cannot go out of it anymore. Now the zealots said, master, let two to three of us escape through the secret way and let us go into the city to seek the support of the people.
70. For you know how Jerusalem at this moment supports we zealots who resist the Romans day and night. Certainly, if the people of Jerusalem knows that we have been surrounded, they would have come in multitude to fight for us.
en heard this, they were confused. Then the Jews and Idumeans attacked them from without. While they struggled with them, the zealots came out were defeated, but Ananus took a sword and stabbed himself before his attackers could lay their hands on him. And he fell .

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Re: The Story Of Josephus: The Man Who Helped Christians With Fake History by johnw47: 10:52am On Oct 09, 2018
madman otem, your father has you obsessed against YAHWEH, Jesus

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Re: The Story Of Josephus: The Man Who Helped Christians With Fake History by OtemAtum: 5:04pm On Oct 10, 2018
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Re: The Story Of Josephus: The Man Who Helped Christians With Fake History by OtemAtum: 4:32am On Oct 14, 2018
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Re: The Story Of Josephus: The Man Who Helped Christians With Fake History by OtemAtum: 8:09pm On May 05, 2019
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Re: The Story Of Josephus: The Man Who Helped Christians With Fake History by OtemAtum: 3:05am On Jun 16, 2019
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Re: The Story Of Josephus: The Man Who Helped Christians With Fake History by Niflheim(m): 1:53pm On Sep 20, 2019
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Re: The Story Of Josephus: The Man Who Helped Christians With Fake History by OtemAtum: 4:25pm On Sep 22, 2019
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Re: The Story Of Josephus: The Man Who Helped Christians With Fake History by OtemAtum: 7:25am On Jul 23, 2020
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Re: The Story Of Josephus: The Man Who Helped Christians With Fake History by donnie(m): 7:45am On Jul 23, 2020
First, Josephus was a black Israelite.
Then taking a look at what he wrote about the MESSIAH versus how Christian writers falsified his writings... Original text was reconstructed from an old Russian manuscript.

“At that time also there appeared a certain man of magic power … if it be meet to call him a man, [whose name is Jesus], whom [certain] Greeks call a son of [a] God, but his disciples [call] the true prophet who is supposed to have raised dead persons and to have cured all diseases. Both his nature and his form were human, for he was a man of simple appearance, mature age, black-skinned (melagchrous), short growth, three cubits tall, hunchbacked, prognathous (lit. ‘with a long face [macroprosopos]), a long nose, eyebrows meeting above the nose, that the spectators could take fright, with scanty [curly] hair, but having a line in the middle of the head after the fashion of the Nazaraeans, with an undeveloped beard.”

Re: The Story Of Josephus: The Man Who Helped Christians With Fake History by donnie(m): 7:49am On Jul 23, 2020
Fuller text of original description by Josephus before Satan's children changed it.

That this basic description goes back to Josephus is affirmed by a number of early Christian ecclesiastics, such as Andreas Hierosolymitannus, Archbishop of Crete (8th cent.) and John of Damascus (8th cent.). Most of the details of this description are found in other Christian literature of an even earlier period. As T.W. Doane quotes:

Arthur E. Palumbo, The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Personages of Earliest Christianity (New York: Algora Publishing, 2004) who concludes: “It is likely that Eisler’s restoration of the Slavonic passage about Jesus does correspond as close as can be expected to what Josephus actually wrote and to what was recorded in the actual official Jewish and Roman documents. ”

“In its first years, the Christian church fancied its Lord’s visage and form marred more than those of other men; and that he must have had no attractions of personal beauty. Justin Marty (A.D. 150-160) speaks of him as without beauty or attractiveness, and of mean appearance. Clement of Alexandria (A.D. 200), describes him as of an uninviting appearance, and almost repulsive. Tertullian (A.D. 200-210) says he had not even ordinary human beauty, far less heavenly. Origen (A.D. 230) went so far as to say that he was ‘small in body and deformed.’ As well as low-born, and that, ‘his only beauty was in his soul and life (emphasis Doane’s).

This startling image of the Hebrew prophet from first century Jerusalem does violence to the reigning iconographic orthodoxy. Indeed, this orthodox image appears to be a point-by-point contradiction of this no doubt more reliable one: black-skinned vs. white; short and hunchback vs. tall and majestic; short (and curly) hair vs. long and flowing; scanty vs. long beard, etc.

Re: The Story Of Josephus: The Man Who Helped Christians With Fake History by donnie(m): 8:38am On Jul 23, 2020
Now to the question of whether such a man ever existed, I'll say "YES and NO".

Why? If you're referring to the white effeminate-looking man with long hair and blue eyes, that man never existed. It's a creation of Rome. But if you're referring to the tough looking YAHUSHA, the black MESSIAH, he sure did exist. And yes he was seen as MESSIAH, a great prophet but he was never worshipped as a replacement of the Most High YAH. Not even by his disciples.

You need not look too far for proof that such a man existed. Read about Simon Toko... of recent history. Here was a man who fulfilled the words of MESSIAH, "greater works shall ye do...".

He proved many times to be immortal. Killed many times and came back alive. This is not a myth, there are still living witnesses today. And his news was all over Europe.

He was said to have unleashed angels against the Belgian army. January 4, 1959, witnesses attest that many “cherubim and seraphim” emerged and held off Belgian colonial army.
Citizens of Leopoldville saw an army of about a thousand angels (non terrestrials)... short, very muscular bodies, imposing.
These human-looking beings, but with supernatural powers, demonstrating an extraordinary force; for example, a witness saw one of them on the road sweeping a five-ton truck with one hand!

If you study this man, it will not be difficult to believe the writings in the Bible concerning the MESSIAH.

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Re: The Story Of Josephus: The Man Who Helped Christians With Fake History by OtemAtum: 11:59pm On Aug 19, 2020
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Re: The Story Of Josephus: The Man Who Helped Christians With Fake History by OtemAtum: 7:31am On Sep 05, 2020
Time to move away from the lies of Christianity

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