₦airaland Forum

AWOLOWO10:
you are the highest fool of 2018, Animal

bettercreature:
It must come to south west.Igbo man must not be allowed to get close to power or what if the president suddenly dies

genternity:
May Amadioha visit you

bettercreature:
Your people want Biafra! Allow a Nigerian man to rule Nigerians

stinechykee:
just like the way you people want to eat una own vomit which is PDP you people have rejected and now want to kill una sef for VP but it will never happen

TundeBricklayer:
There has been this beautiful argument on why ndigbo should allow the southwest have a double header as VP for both the APC and the PDP. It is the sort of argument that many would dismiss as a beautiful nonsense. Yet, it is gaining traction and should not be denied access to publicity anymore. One must confess, the argument is fairly compelling. But it certainly falls short of some critical benchmarks.

After the 2015 Presidential Election, which the PDP lost, the Party (PDP) set up a postmortem and reorganising committee headed by the Deputy Senate president, Senator Ike Ekweremadu. That strategic committee did not only recommend that PDP should zone its presidential slot to the North but also zone the VP to southeast. In line with those reasoned and adopted prescriptions of the Ekweremadu committee, the entire dozen PDP aspirants came from the north. Rather than allow Atiku Abubakar pick his running mate from the southeast, kite fliers are at it, presenting him with alluring reasons he has to jettison the accepted Committee recommendations, which even produced him as the Party’s flag-bearer.

The argument on why PDP VP slot is presumed by these permutations to be best from southwest wrongly assumes that the zone is the decider of the 2019 presidential poll and therefore once the zone is divided, a pathway to Atiku's victory would become all the more obvious. Really?

This postulation appears incurably defective for many reasons. In 2015, southwest, though contributed fundamentally, contributed just about 2m votes to the APC kitty. Kano alone, as part of the nPDP, contributed almost as much as the entire southwest. The man that made the Kano nPDP give that much to the APC namely Rabiu Musa Kwankwaso is back to the PDP. One does not expect that Kwankwaso of the Kwakwasiyya fame would deliver as many votes as he delivered as an incumbent governor. But the Kwankwaso factor can only be ignored to one's peril. As Kwankwaso himself acknowledged in Port Harcourt during the PDP primaries, the point here is that it was the nPDP that gave Buhari victory and not the southwest as erroneously held in some quarters even though Ahmed Bola Tinubu provided the initial impetus.

What’s more, times are changing. The tightening gap between APC and PDP in the election outcomes in Ekiti and Osun clearly show the ruling party does no longer have that dominant hold on southwest.

Not only that, APC in its poor imbibing of impunity, wished Ambode away and paved way for veteran Jimi Agbaje who has an overarching reach in Lagos to return to the fray as PDP guber candidate. The Jimi Agbaje factor working mainly in tandem and synergy with non-Yoruba’s, will ensure that Lagos is not a walk in park for the ruling party.

Where then is the reason why ndigbo should let go of the VP slot zoned to them ab initio?

It's important to also state why Atiku should not let go of his search for his vice in the southeast. There are half a dozen factors why the southeast should not let go also.

First, being part of Nigeria and having the right to produce President and Vice, the southeast should not sacrifice such God-given opportunity for the so-called political expediency.

Second is the power of the front seat. Since the days of Dr. Alex Ekwueme as Vice President, Southeast never came close to power. Since restructuring is what is uppermost on the mind of the zone, producing a Vice president can ensure the issue is not swept under the carpet like APC did.

Third is power of proximity. Every vice president has some right to succeed the President. Be it Osinbajo or another Yoruba, it is only natural that he or she would aspire to succeed the departing President. This inherent desire caused the rift between Atiku and Obasanjo.

Fourth, producing Nigeria President of Igbo extraction is closer from a vice president’s position. In other words, distancing the southeast from the office of the Vice president is distancing the zone also from the office of the President of Nigeria.

So, those arguing against ndigbo producing the VP for Atiku at this point really argue amiss and do the zone more harm than good.

Some have even argued that ndigbo would be better off with Senate president. That argument is neither here nor there. If zoning didn't work in 2015, what's the guarantee that it will work in 2019 with the same actors?

In federalism, each federating unit enters the equation from a position of strength. The southeast should not always go on voyage of discoveries of zones in the country to assuage and make happy.

It's time the Southeast took care of itself and its people. The zone has sacrificed enough and should demand reciprocal entitlements for its noble and patriotic labour, which has kept Nigeria one.

From foundation, it has always been mainly southeasters working and sacrificing to bring and keep the country together. Zik did not become Prime Minister because he thought if he did; the north could leave the union. This tendency has repeated itself over and over.

What's more, a southeast producing VP would consolidate the zone's votes. The southwest, middle belt and southwest ought to see it from that perspective. Southwest particularly is divide into Afenifere and Tinubu camps with the former pushing for restructuring along with the rest of the south and middle belt. They cannot insist of producing the VP for Atiku in order to vote for him for the actualization of the restructuring agenda, just like the Tinubu side will not be changed in their inclination to Tinubu, Osinbajo and APC.

Again, southeast zone parades great materials to deliver in that office and make the task of rescuing Nigeria from the slide into feudalism only easier and merrier.

Let us consider one or two of the great minds from the east. If there is one man the southeast could entrust with its future and representation in contemporary Nigeria, it is Ike Ekweremadu. He is a man who is what every politician wants of an intellectual and what every intellectual would want in a politician. A quiet achiever, like octopus, he has his overarching tentacles all over Nigeria. A choice of a man like Sen. Ike Ekweremadu as VP is but a foremost choice. The problem is that Ekweremadu thinks more of lawmaking than executive functions and has to be seriously persuaded otherwise.

Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala has done it before. When she was coordinating, she steadied the nation's economy, freed Nigeria from foreign loans and brought far-reaching reforms that made Nigeria the biggest and fastest growing economy in Africa and, as VP, would repeat the feat and guarantee the votes of the womenfolk. The problem is that It would take quite a lot to convince the great lady to come to the rescue after her rueful experience.

Peter Obi as governor of Anambra state restored security and education to the State. He is also unapologetically frugal and can help cure Nigeria of debilitating profligacy. He too is a great choice. The impediment may be the thinking of some that his political horizon is shrinking.

Chukwuma Soludo has a similar capacity as Ngozi Okonjo-Iwela and being a homeboy is even an added advantage for him. As VP, the former CBN govenor, who designed NEEDS, can help Atiku banish poverty. His impediment is that he is in APGA. Can PDP turks let him in?

Southeast parades more first-class VP candidates to give Atiku and Nigeria choices to make the difference. Ndigbo must not let go and give in to the emotional blackmail. Like Shakespeare said, there's a tide in the affairs of men. When an opportunity comes, seize it with both hands. It comes but once.

http://saharareporters.com/2018/10/10/atikus-running-mate-why-southeast-shoud-not-let-go-law-mefor

stinechykee:
This is why other Southerner hate you yorubas including house/Fulanis you people try to force una sef on them because of una greediness, treachery but una cup don full this time

cbrass:
and where did you see Yorubas on the majority talking about the VP position...please dont drag us into your matter abeg

Tushkito:
You have spoken well mefor, the VP slot must be zoned the southeast, it must be done to give the region a sense of belonging. Those people pushing for southwest VP are not only myopic but also WICKED.

cbrass:
i hope you know Yorubas are watching all these comments

Ade3000yrs:
As a yoruba man with an opinion positing a conflict to consensus; If the criteria for choice of Presidential or Presidential vice candidate were to be on the basis of zoning to the politically marginalised, then it should be most preferedly zoned to the south south or better still the southeast. However the special derivative allocations & preferences, this southerners are still subject to live life on the edge in abject poverty while the community leaders invest in multinational & robust real estate investment portfolios outside the reach of their indigenes & in estrange lands. Visit the south south or ead through the works of Dr Ese or Nairaland, Eseade3000yrs post and you will see the thin line behind the truth & fiction. This is d reason why Niger Delta vices & restiveness will continue to pose the worst threat on the existence & progress of a peaceful united Nigeria.

bettercreature:
It must come to south west.Igbo man must not be allowed to get close to power or what if the president suddenly dies

flyca:
Nigeria and Nigerians are not truely ready for any change, walahi.

This leader will come from this region and that region. He or she must be from this religion, must be this party or this tribe and blabala.

Nowhere is the equation does intelligence, sound mind, exposure, progress, honesty, empathy, confidence, commitment, passion, ability to motive others etc these do not come to the equation!

Of what use was Jonathan to the Ijaws? Did he develop Bayelsa during his regin? Did he build their roads? Same with PMB, same with Namadi Sambo, Osibanjo just name it!.

They are a the same. They just satisfy a few people in the inner cacus, the rest of us will still not have any benefit. Just the same cycle of failure. The bad thing is: we still don't learn. We still fight to defend them. And then turn around and wait for C-H-A-N-G-E?!

Wonderful!

baysol:
This is because the igbos are politically and nationally worthless in the Nigeria scheme accept and be happy.

TundeBricklayer:
There has been this beautiful argument on why ndigbo should allow the southwest have a double header as VP for both the APC and the PDP. It is the sort of argument that many would dismiss as a beautiful nonsense. Yet, it is gaining traction and should not be denied access to publicity anymore. One must confess, the argument is fairly compelling. But it certainly falls short of some critical benchmarks.

After the 2015 Presidential Election, which the PDP lost, the Party (PDP) set up a postmortem and reorganising committee headed by the Deputy Senate president, Senator Ike Ekweremadu. That strategic committee did not only recommend that PDP should zone its presidential slot to the North but also zone the VP to southeast. In line with those reasoned and adopted prescriptions of the Ekweremadu committee, the entire dozen PDP aspirants came from the north. Rather than allow Atiku Abubakar pick his running mate from the southeast, kite fliers are at it, presenting him with alluring reasons he has to jettison the accepted Committee recommendations, which even produced him as the Party’s flag-bearer.


This is an APC posted article
The argument on why PDP VP slot is presumed by these permutations to be best from southwest wrongly assumes that the zone is the decider of the 2019 presidential poll and therefore once the zone is divided, a pathway to Atiku's victory would become all the more obvious. Really?

This postulation appears incurably defective for many reasons. In 2015, southwest, though contributed fundamentally, contributed just about 2m votes to the APC kitty. Kano alone, as part of the nPDP, contributed almost as much as the entire southwest. The man that made the Kano nPDP give that much to the APC namely Rabiu Musa Kwankwaso is back to the PDP. One does not expect that Kwankwaso of the Kwakwasiyya fame would deliver as many votes as he delivered as an incumbent governor. But the Kwankwaso factor can only be ignored to one's peril. As Kwankwaso himself acknowledged in Port Harcourt during the PDP primaries, the point here is that it was the nPDP that gave Buhari victory and not the southwest as erroneously held in some quarters even though Ahmed Bola Tinubu provided the initial impetus.

What’s more, times are changing. The tightening gap between APC and PDP in the election outcomes in Ekiti and Osun clearly show the ruling party does no longer have that dominant hold on southwest.

Not only that, APC in its poor imbibing of impunity, wished Ambode away and paved way for veteran Jimi Agbaje who has an overarching reach in Lagos to return to the fray as PDP guber candidate. The Jimi Agbaje factor working mainly in tandem and synergy with non-Yoruba’s, will ensure that Lagos is not a walk in park for the ruling party.

Where then is the reason why ndigbo should let go of the VP slot zoned to them ab initio?

It's important to also state why Atiku should not let go of his search for his vice in the southeast. There are half a dozen factors why the southeast should not let go also.

First, being part of Nigeria and having the right to produce President and Vice, the southeast should not sacrifice such God-given opportunity for the so-called political expediency.

Second is the power of the front seat. Since the days of Dr. Alex Ekwueme as Vice President, Southeast never came close to power. Since restructuring is what is uppermost on the mind of the zone, producing a Vice president can ensure the issue is not swept under the carpet like APC did.

Third is power of proximity. Every vice president has some right to succeed the President. Be it Osinbajo or another Yoruba, it is only natural that he or she would aspire to succeed the departing President. This inherent desire caused the rift between Atiku and Obasanjo.

Fourth, producing Nigeria President of Igbo extraction is closer from a vice president’s position. In other words, distancing the southeast from the office of the Vice president is distancing the zone also from the office of the President of Nigeria.

So, those arguing against ndigbo producing the VP for Atiku at this point really argue amiss and do the zone more harm than good.

Some have even argued that ndigbo would be better off with Senate president. That argument is neither here nor there. If zoning didn't work in 2015, what's the guarantee that it will work in 2019 with the same actors?

In federalism, each federating unit enters the equation from a position of strength. The southeast should not always go on voyage of discoveries of zones in the country to assuage and make happy.

It's time the Southeast took care of itself and its people. The zone has sacrificed enough and should demand reciprocal entitlements for its noble and patriotic labour, which has kept Nigeria one.

From foundation, it has always been mainly southeasters working and sacrificing to bring and keep the country together. Zik did not become Prime Minister because he thought if he did; the north could leave the union. This tendency has repeated itself over and over.

What's more, a southeast producing VP would consolidate the zone's votes. The southwest, middle belt and southwest ought to see it from that perspective. Southwest particularly is divide into Afenifere and Tinubu camps with the former pushing for restructuring along with the rest of the south and middle belt. They cannot insist of producing the VP for Atiku in order to vote for him for the actualization of the restructuring agenda, just like the Tinubu side will not be changed in their inclination to Tinubu, Osinbajo and APC.

Again, southeast zone parades great materials to deliver in that office and make the task of rescuing Nigeria from the slide into feudalism only easier and merrier.

Let us consider one or two of the great minds from the east. If there is one man the southeast could entrust with its future and representation in contemporary Nigeria, it is Ike Ekweremadu. He is a man who is what every politician wants of an intellectual and what every intellectual would want in a politician. A quiet achiever, like octopus, he has his overarching tentacles all over Nigeria. A choice of a man like Sen. Ike Ekweremadu as VP is but a foremost choice. The problem is that Ekweremadu thinks more of lawmaking than executive functions and has to be seriously persuaded otherwise.

Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala has done it before. When she was coordinating, she steadied the nation's economy, freed Nigeria from foreign loans and brought far-reaching reforms that made Nigeria the biggest and fastest growing economy in Africa and, as VP, would repeat the feat and guarantee the votes of the womenfolk. The problem is that It would take quite a lot to convince the great lady to come to the rescue after her rueful experience.

Peter Obi as governor of Anambra state restored security and education to the State. He is also unapologetically frugal and can help cure Nigeria of debilitating profligacy. He too is a great choice. The impediment may be the thinking of some that his political horizon is shrinking.

Chukwuma Soludo has a similar capacity as Ngozi Okonjo-Iwela and being a homeboy is even an added advantage for him. As VP, the former CBN govenor, who designed NEEDS, can help Atiku banish poverty. His impediment is that he is in APGA. Can PDP turks let him in?

Southeast parades more first-class VP candidates to give Atiku and Nigeria choices to make the difference. Ndigbo must not let go and give in to the emotional blackmail. Like Shakespeare said, there's a tide in the affairs of men. When an opportunity comes, seize it with both hands. It comes but once.

http://saharareporters.com/2018/10/10/atikus-running-mate-why-southeast-shoud-not-let-go-law-mefor

drnoel:
[s]Anyone who is blind will see that in this our time, no Yoruba man will vote for am igboman to be VP or even president. That's a statement of fact, not with Tinubu (their God) running amok all around Nigeria. That being said, PDP should know that to wrestle power from APC they need to field a intellectual southwesterner to the VP slot so that he can appeal to the elite yorubas as well as the western masses.
Many Igbos already stand behind Atiku (I have no idea why this is so) but it could be cos they will never dream of voting APC.
All that said the best option is to place a westerner on the VP slot without sentiments to the Igbos.
An Igbo man being the president of Nigeria is not an Igbo achievement. I have no idea why there is a lot of clamour for that. Let's leave sentiments alone.[/s]

goaldynman:
RUBBISH!

So you expect the Igbos to vote for Yoruba VP?

It's obvious you're one of those APC agents trying to deceive Atiku to choose a Yoruba VP! Without Yoruba vote Atiku and PDP will still win! It has happened during Obasanjo time, when southwest did not vote for Obasonjo!!

Dubembiafra:
All we are saying.... Give us Biafra

bettercreature:
It must come to south west.Igbo man must not be allowed to get close to power or what if the president suddenly dies

bettercreature:
It must come to south west.Igbo man must not be allowed to get close to power or what if the president suddenly dies

goaldynman:
Why I don't want to dissipate my energy arguing everyday who should be picked the Vice President is that all these fake news are emanating from Southwest's Lagos -Ibadan Expressway Media propaganda trying to deceive and coerce Atiku to pick his VP from southwest! However, take the following points from me:

1. Even if Atiku pick his VP from southwest, it will not have any impact on the vote he will get from southwest. The southwest will still vote APC because they plotting to grab power as soon as 2023 instead of voting Atiku and wait a longer period till 2027.

2. If Atiku pick his VP from southwest, he will not get any vote from southeast and South-South! This will be the beginning of his failure.

3. If Atiku pick his VP from southwest, he will not get any financial support from southeast Governors and southsouth Governors. We all know the Southwest does not have any PDP Governor to support him during the election!

4. Southwest at the moment does not have any credible PDP member to be chosen a VP! Is it Fayose or Fani Kayode?

5. Southeast has been the greatest support of PDP even when southwest abandoned the party!

6. Southwest ruled the Country under PDP for 8yrs. So all these mundane talk that PDP marginalised them is arrant nonsense!

7. Virtually all those fabricating and peddling these fake news and calling Atiku to choose his VP from southwest are APC agents attempting to lure Atiku into making the greatest mistake of his political life!

8. Igbos residing in Southwest are monumental (about 30% of people residing in Southwest are Igbos) and will vote massively for Atiku if he choose his VP from southeast.

9. Southeast delegates voted massively for Atiku while southwest delegates voted for Tambuwal in anticipation of the latter making Fayose his VP!

10. Lastly, it is very wicked, selfish, greedy and evil for Southwest to be angling for VP position of PDP! Having ruled under the party in the person of their son Obasanjo; and their son Osinbajo having been VP for 4yrs now! Still they are plotting to take over from Buhari in 2023! Is southwest the only Nigerians in the Southern part of Nigeria? So to them, southeasterners are slaves and does not deserve any political post? This is sheer wickedness in high places!

Roger3D:
Nobody dashes power to anyone, if the SE wants power then they will have to fight for it

stinechykee:
This is why other Southerner hate you yorubas including house/Fulanis you people try to force una sef on them because of una greediness, treachery but una cup don full this time

OsuEbonyi:
Lamidi Cownu must be turning in his shallow grave right now

goaldynman:
Why I don't want to dissipate my energy arguing everyday who should be picked the Vice President is that all these fake news are emanating from Southwest's Lagos -Ibadan Expressway Media propaganda trying to deceive and coerce Atiku to pick his VP from southwest! However, take the following points from me:

1. Even if Atiku pick his VP from southwest, it will not have any impact on the vote he will get from southwest. The southwest will still vote APC because they plotting to grab power as soon as 2023 instead of voting Atiku and wait a longer period till 2027.

2. If Atiku pick his VP from southwest, he will not get any vote from southeast and South-South! This will be the beginning of his failure.

3. If Atiku pick his VP from southwest, he will not get any financial support from southeast Governors and southsouth Governors. We all know the Southwest does not have any PDP Governor to support him during the election!

4. Southwest at the moment does not have any credible PDP member to be chosen a VP! Is it Fayose or Fani Kayode?

5. Southeast has been the greatest support of PDP even when southwest abandoned the party!

6. Southwest ruled the Country under PDP for 8yrs. So all these mundane talk that PDP marginalised them is arrant nonsense!

7. Virtually all those fabricating and peddling these fake news and calling Atiku to choose his VP from southwest are APC agents attempting to lure Atiku into making the greatest mistake of his political life!

8. Igbos residing in Southwest are monumental (about 30% of people residing in Southwest are Igbos) and will vote massively for Atiku if he choose his VP from southeast.

9. Southeast delegates voted massively for Atiku while southwest delegates voted for Tambuwal in anticipation of the latter making Fayose his VP!

10. Lastly, it is very wicked, selfish, greedy and evil for Southwest to be angling for VP position of PDP! Having ruled under the party in the person of their son Obasanjo; and their son Osinbajo having been VP for 4yrs now! Still they are plotting to take over from Buhari in 2023! Is southwest the only Nigerians in the Southern part of Nigeria? So to them, southeasterners are slaves and does not deserve any political post? This is sheer wickedness in high places!

stinechykee:
I have never seen a tribe as wicked,insecure,greedy,selfish,self centered as south west.They always accused Igbos of crying marginalisation and greedy whereas they are the people that always exhibit those traits.Yorubas always used time of Goodluck Jonathan Ebere to weep setiment that they were marginalised while Igbos were rewarded and gave juicy positions so they resorted in plotting with Buhari and APC to unseat GEJ and even rejected PDP because of their quest and greedy for power and here they are coming again to scheme and plot evil as usual which they are known for to lick their vomit which is for become VP under PDP they so much hate.Now which tribe is wicked and cry marginalise btween Igbo and Yoruba? I need honest answer please