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Riofidelio:
The Bible was written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit so if anyone reading is not in agreement with the Spirit surely such a person can't understand the message! JWs claimed that all the gifts will seize but many are of the contrary opinion, so let's reason together. Why is it that Jesus never prescribe any remedy for ailments but during the life of His powerful Apostles Paul prescribed alcoholic beverages for Timothy's sickness? Why is it that Jesus calm the storm but His Apostles experienced a shipwreck that almost claim their lives? Why is it that right from the death of the last Apostle there wasn't any more historical records of miracles and even the first religious groups claiming Christians like Catholics, Anglicans,Methodists,Presebitarians,Missionaries and the rest performed no miracles until early 20th century when false prophets increased in number? Where are the magicians today or magicians have gone into extinct? What's the meaning of Paul's record at 2Corinthians 11:13-15? Please these are SOLID food for thought!

Nice one Bro

Riofidelio:
Miracles were for some purposes,if someone don't know the purpose of something such a person could overdo or miss out totally from it's benefits.According to Jesus Christians would perform miracles for some reasons (1)to help honest hearted ones IDENTIFY those that will complete all other useful info God wants to pass to mankind since HIS son couldn't complete the info within His short lifespan on the Earth as a man. (2) to help during the time the info is given eg they spoke in tongues to reach out to none Jews, they received most info through visions,(3) Some of them escaped execution miraculously to complete their assignments (4) God's Holy Spirit reminded them of all that Jesus said and to relate them to the old scriptures. But towards the completion of the Bible they gradually performed no more miraculous signs, and after the Bible was completed all those things seized. 1Corinthians 13:8-13 That's why the closest religions to the first century Christians who were claiming Christianity don't perform miracles! Jesus warned that during the last days when lawlessness will abound,false prophets will perform great signs that's powerful enough to confuse Saints (Holy Ones) This indicates that these so called Saints won't be performing any signs at the time because if they do there can't be any fake miracles that will confuse them. God is still God no doubt but as for continuous signs to impress people HE is no more giving such, it's left to those with eyes of Faith to display their love for HIM by waiting patiently for HIS promises.1Corinthians 13:13 compare to Matthew 12:39

This is precise and very correct.... Weldone Bro

kurt09:
They are lobotomized. A friend of mine who is a witness told me that miracles are false. That there is nothing like miracle. One fateful night, her few months nephew fell sick, and at the point of death. My friend brought out her Bible, opened Psalm 91, and prayed incessantly until the child health normalised. In the morning, when she came to work,she told me how God used her. That she didn't sleep last night. That God is powerful and merciful for answering her prayers last night. I told her you don't believe in miracles but you're sharing testimony of what God did for your family last night. I told her to pray for more divine encounters instead of following church doctrines...

So She did not use paracetamol? and she go de cry if the pikin die

Riofidelio:
It's OK! We're just giving opinions here we're not judging anyone as the question suggests "why don't......believe in miracles today?" If you still believe in miracles today nobody should stop you from doing so and if you choose not to nobody should force you to believe it. The Bible book of Galatians 5:22/23 settled this by pointing out the COMPULSORY things that a Christian group must Cherish and in conclusion Apostle Paul said "against such there is NO LAW" meaning if these nine qualities of the fruit is found in a religion then such a religion is OK!

After all said and done it's your own opinion not the bible's. Therefore it is an assumption that you strongly hold on to.

Thank God you accepted that this belief is your own opinion. People who choose not to believe and hold on to your opinions are not pagans, apostates, wicked, worldly and unrighteous.
All your beliefs are humans opinions that if disobeyed, the person is punished.
Don't try to give excuse for believing in something not mentioned in the Bible.

Yes.. There are miracles for sure in the past and this provides evidence of Gods backing of Jesus Christ and the first century Christians Ex4;1- 9 John 9: 17 Hebrews 2:3-4 but in time, selected gifts will pass away 1cor13:8-11 including miraculous gifts

In reading the history of the Acts of Apostles, we see that Jehovah’s spirit was working mightily, speedily, forming congregations, getting Christianity firmly established. ( Ac 4:4; chaps 13, 14, 16-19 ) In the few short years between 33 and 70 C.E., thousands of believers were gathered in many congregations from Babylon to Rome, and perhaps even farther west. ( 1Pe 5:13; Ro 1:1, 7; 15:24 ) It is worthy of note that copies of the Scriptures then were few. Usually only the well-to-do possessed scrolls or books of any sort. In pagan lands there was no knowledge of the Bible or the God of the Bible, Jehovah. Virtually everything had to be done by word of mouth. There were no Bible commentaries, concordances, and encyclopedias readily at hand. So the miraculous gifts of special knowledge, wisdom, speaking in tongues, and discernment of inspired utterances were vital for the congregation then. ( 1Co 12:4-11, 27-31 ) But, as the apostle Paul wrote, when those things were no longer needed, they would pass away.

A Different Situation Today. We do not see God performing such miracles by the hands of his Christian servants today, because all needed things are present and available to the literate population of the world, and to help those who cannot read but who will listen, there are mature Christians who have knowledge and wisdom gained by study and experience. It is not necessary for God to perform such miracles at this time to attest to Jesus Christ as God’s appointed deliverer, or to provide proof that He is backing up His servants. Even if God were to continue to give his servants the ability to perform miracles, that would not convince everyone, for not even all the eyewitnesses of Jesus’ miracles were moved to accept his teachings. ( Joh 12:9-11 ) On the other hand, scoffers are warned by the Bible that there will yet be stupendous acts of God performed in the destruction of the present system of things.​— 2Pe 3:1-10; Re chaps 18, 19 .
In conclusion, it may be said that either those who deny the existence of miracles do not believe there is an invisible God and Creator or they believe that he has not exercised his power in any superhuman way since creation. But their unbelief does not make the Word of God of no effect. ( Ro 3:3, 4 ) The Biblical accounts of God’s miracles and the good purpose that they accomplished, always in harmony with the truths and principles found in his Word, instill confidence in God. They give strong assurance that God cares for mankind and that he can and will protect those who serve him. The miracles provide typical patterns, and the record of them builds faith that God will, in the future, intervene in a miraculous way, healing and blessing faithful humankind.​— Re 21:4 .
Jehovah’s witnesses believe that Jehovah do perform miracles but as far as this present world is concerned, miracles is no longer an evidence of Jesus disciples john13:35
Jesus told his disciples that they would do works 100times more than he do now look- Jesus ressurect the dead who have done 100times that?
He opened the blind eye who have done 100times that?
Turned water to wine who has done 100times that
And so on
But Jesus also declared the Good news luke4:18-21 we Jehovah’s witnesses no doubt are happy that Jehovah has given us the strength � and privilege to attain this feat even at great exponential rate mal3:16 acts 15:14 Matt 28:19-20

Hairyrapunzel:
Tell us where the bible said that the gift of performing miracles ended with the first century Christians. Till then your religion is the biggest scam on earth.

Scamming 8 million people that the world will soon end as 8billion will be slaughtered by their Jehovah so 8 million people will take over because they belong to watchtower and follow governing body bible misinterpretation is the biggest lie ever told to anybody. See who they call pastors scammers na him dey for inside the scam.

Acts8:5-7 and verses 14-17 the gifts were transferred to other believers directly by placing their hands on them acts8;18 and these fresh receivers don't transfer them to other in the bible.. So when they all died the gift have already accomplished its work

Regarding scam remember what Jesus said at matt24:37-38
Can you see a connection in the number of people saved in noah's day with those who perish? All the same Jehovah does not even desire any to perish 2pet3:9 just serve the true God Jehovah and meditate on his name mal3;16. Jehovah’s witnesses can assist you

Crysthaniel:
Acts8:5-7 and verses 14-17 the gifts were transferred to other believers directly by placing their hands on them acts8;18 and these fresh receivers don't transfer them to other in the bible.. So when they all died the gift have already accomplished its work

Regarding scam remember what Jesus said at matt24:37-38
Can you see a connection in the number of people saved in noah's day with those who perish? All the same Jehovah does not even desire any to perish 2pet3:9 just serve the true God Jehovah and meditate on his name mal3;16. Jehovah’s witnesses can assist you

Please where did the bible say the fresh receivers don't transfer them to others in the Bible?

At the end of the day the bible never mentions your beliefs you have to assume to arrive at the conclusion you make.
You are not even sure of you beliefs. You are even ashamed to quote this bible passage.


9 Now for some time a man named Simon had practiced sorcery in the city and amazed all the people of Samaria. He boasted that he was someone great, 10 and all the people, both high and low, gave him their attention and exclaimed, “This man is rightly called the Great Power of God.” 11 They followed him because he had amazed them for a long time with his sorcery. 12 But when they believed Philip as he proclaimed the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. 13 Simon himself believed and was baptized. And he followed Philip everywhere, astonished by the great signs and miracles he saw.

14 When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to Samaria. 15 When they arrived, they prayed for the new believers there that they might receive the Holy Spirit, 16 because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

18 When Simon saw that the Spirit was given at the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money 19 and said, “Give me also this ability so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”

20 Peter answered: “May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money! 21 You have no part or share in this ministry, because your heart is not right before God. 22 Repent of this wickedness and pray to the Lord in the hope that he may forgive you for having such a thought in your heart. 23 For I see that you are full of bitterness and captive to sin.”

24 Then Simon answered, “Pray to the Lord for me so that nothing you have said may happen to me.”

25 After they had further proclaimed the word of the Lord and testified about Jesus, Peter and John returned to Jerusalem, preaching the gospel in many Samaritan villages.


IT'S LIKE YOU GUYS IN THAT SCAM YOU CALL RELIGION HATE QUOTING BIBLE PASSAGES. READ AND UNDERSTAND THE PASSAGE.

YOU THINK YOU CAN THINK FOR THE BIBLE. YOU EVEN HAVE TO THINK FOR PAUL, PETER AND THE EARLY CHRISTIANS. WHAT THEY DIDN'T SAY AND DIDN'T DO YOU ASSUME THEY SAID AND DID IT

Crysthaniel:
Acts8:5-7 and verses 14-17 the gifts were transferred to other believers directly by placing their hands on them acts8;18 and these fresh receivers don't transfer them to other in the bible.. So when they all died the gift have already accomplished its work

Regarding scam remember what Jesus said at matt24:37-38
Can you see a connection in the number of people saved in noah's day with those who perish? All the same Jehovah does not even desire any to perish 2pet3:9 just serve the true God Jehovah and meditate on his name mal3;16. Jehovah’s witnesses can assist you

Be quoting Noah's day. When they ask you to show us where the bible said joining an organization called watchtower aka a publishing company/business corporation will lead to salvation now you will start speaking another language

Why do you guys even think of people perishing? Somebody will just stay and be thinking about impending destruction of human beings and talking about Noah's day.
You think all these your thinking about mass slaughter will scare us?

Your new system will stink for a long time of dead bodies. You will end up suffering from post traumatic stress disorder.

Your only hope and wish is for a day like Noah's day to come? You go wait tire. Well, your dead founding fathers eg taze, Rutherford, knorr, Franz and the dead governing body members have been waiting for over 140years because of the delusion that your sky daddy will come slaughter all non jws just like Noah's day.

Hairyrapunzel:
Be quoting Noah's day. When they ask you to show us where the bible said joining an organization called watchtower aka a publishing company/business corporation will lead to salvation now you will start speaking another language

Why do you guys even think of people perishing? Somebody will just stay and be thinking about impending destruction of human beings and talking about Noah's day.
You think all these your thinking about mass slaughter will scare us?

You new system will drink for a long time of dead bodies. You will end up suffering from post traumatic stress disorder.

Your only hope and wish is for a day like Noah's day to come? You go wait tire. Well, your dead founding fathers eg taze, Rutherford, knorr, Franz and the dead governing body members have been waiting for over 140years because of the delusion that your sky daddy will come slaughter all non jws just like Noah's day.

we should remember that it's Jesus that made these statements as regards to noah's day.. if its not going to be that way he would not have say something like that

And as regards of Organization.. Yes every one needs to be in Jehovah's arrangement or organization to be saved.. Jehovah has been and continues choosing people from all corners of the earth to be his -bearing his name, yes a people for his name.. Please read Isaiah 43:6-13 a vital prophecy was written by Isaiah and acts 15:14 in connection also Amos 9:11-12.. The work is currently going on now until Jehovah said its done.. You can go to our website www.jw.org for more answers you gonna like it just try

I will never forget how JW made me lose the girl I really like

confused set of people

Bushyhair:
I will never forget how JW made me lose the girl I really like

confused set of people

Anger is eating U up. Pls mend your ways. Why will she be with someone whose hatred for Jehovah's righteous standard he wears like a tag ?

[quote author=Hairyrapunzel post=65781953]To all servants of the only true God, Jehovah ( JW; )

The "Hairyrapunzel " moniker is an apostate, excommunicated from the Christian congregation of Jehovah's witnesses.
IBERIBEISM litters his posts on NL.
Pls beware of evil seeds of Korah who come online to malign Jehovah's name.
Numbers16:1-3,20-27. 1 Cor 5:1-3,9-13.
Pls note.
CC: crysthaniel.
prinzfavian
TATIME et al

Hotzone:
I like their style. If all Christians can be devoted to preach the gospel, Muslim would have all been converted to Christianity.
I LOVE JEHOVAH. I LOVE JESUS CHRIST!!!!!

Your assertion is wrong. It is the holy spirit that convert and convinces people. Many Muslims argue the scriptures based on their understanding, it will be difficult to convert them by just preaching.

KKKWHITE:
Because 95% of present day miracles are fake And also 1 Corinthians 13:8

Were did you get this fact or figure from?. What is your empirical evidence to support your claim?

maximunimpact:
A JW will rather seek the help of witch doctors than pray for miracle. I was once advised by one JW woman to rub some charms in my lips for job interview success and i looked at her astonishingly but said since am not yet a baptized brother that there's nothing wrong with that.

How can you use one person to generalize the whole thing?

My own is why don't they recognize government or sing national anthem?

They believe that it is idolatry that giving reverence to man instead of Jehovah.

The pastorpreneur & his wife of will travel out to do IVF assisted reproduction to achieve conception &birth triplets.
Later they begin to deceive their gullible mumu hynotised followership that they travelleld for a 'Retreat' where God opened the womb of the wife after sowing seed in 7 digits, coupled with 40 days intense fasting & prayers..... Lol.
Their miracle god is IVF assisted reproduction.
If U wanna believe the well choreographed theatrical shows (AKA miracles) of pastorpreneurs who fleece their flocks with consulting fees, prayers fees ,tithe fee, sowing seed fees & demand special guests appearance fees (at crusades,revival outings)) in the name of miracles, U haf enter one chance....

Workers of iniquity(AKA "miraclepreneurs & pastorpreneurs) , Christ will disown them very soon. Matt 7:21-23.

But this is what Jehovah counts as righteousness....

John 13:34,35. 1 cor 13:1-13. James2:14-17,26. James 1:26,27. Gal 5:19-23. Gal 6:1.

Crysthaniel:
we should remember that it's Jesus that made these statements as regards to noah's day.. if its not going to be that way he would not have say something like that

And as regards of Organization.. Yes every one needs to be in Jehovah's arrangement or organization to be saved.. Jehovah has been and continues choosing people from all corners of the earth to be his -bearing his name, yes a people for his name.. Please read Isaiah 43:6-13 a vital prophecy was written by Isaiah and acts 15:14 in connection also Amos 9:11-12.. The work is currently going on now until Jehovah said its done.. You can go to our website www.jw.org for more answers you gonna like it just try

I need a bible passage stating where jehovah said you have to join an organization to get saved by jehovah? Abi e hard to provide?

Shame did not allow you quote your lie about acts 8 again. Always assuming what jehovah never thought of.

asuustrike1:
How can you use one person to generalize the whole thing?

I have more than a handful examples, not just one jw. Even my former landlord who is an elder practice witchcraft, my girlfriend's mum who is jw gave me a charm for interview success telling me because i am not yet baptized that its okay. I can't even mention all that i have personally came across.

maximunimpact:
I have more than a handful examples, not just one jw. Even my former landlord who is an elder practice witchcraft, my girlfriend's mum who is jw gave me a charm for interview success telling me because i am not yet baptized that its okay. I can't even mention all that i have personally came across.

Achan was a thief , Josh7:1.
Many Israelites served idols Deut 32:17-19.
Judas was a traitor Matt 26:14-16,
Ananias & Saphira were fraudulent ( Acts 5:1-11) did that render the worship of Jehovah by other faithful ones obsolete ?

OneJ:
Achan was a thief , Josh7:1.
Many Israelites served idols Deut 32:17-19.
Judas was a traitor Matt 26:14-16,
Ananias & Saphira were fraudulent ( Acts 5:1-11) did that render the worship of Jehovah by other faithful ones obsolete ?

To justify your false beliefs and doctrines you start lying. What happened to this people you mentioned now? I no fit laugh.

OneJ:
Achan was a thief , Josh7:1.
Many Israelites served idols Deut 32:17-19.
Judas was a traitor Matt 26:14-16,
Ananias & Saphira were fraudulent ( Acts 5:1-11) did that render the worship of Jehovah by other faithful ones obsolete ?

you can quote all the verses to justify the act, but that doesn't change the fact that a jw would rather consult idols that seek a miracle from God.

maximunimpact:
I have more than a handful examples, not just one jw. Even my former landlord who is an elder practice witchcraft, my girlfriend's mum who is jw gave me a charm for interview success telling me because i am not yet baptized that its okay. I can't even mention all that i have personally came across.

OneJ:
Achan was a thief , Josh7:1.
Many Israelites served idols Deut 32:17-19.
Judas was a traitor Matt 26:14-16,
Ananias & Saphira were fraudulent ( Acts 5:1-11) did that render the worship of Jehovah by other faithful ones obsolete ?

maximunimpact:
you can quote all the verses to justify the act, but that doesn't change the fact that a jw would rather consult idols that seek a miracle from God.

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maximumimpact, Why U dey throw shade, dey dodge my question & lie lie against me ?

Pls be specific to point out where I justified the ungodly acts that U alleged that those JWs (the ones U mentioned) had done.

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Hairyrapunzel:
Please where did the bible say the fresh receivers don't transfer them to others in the Bible?

At the end of the day the bible never mentions your beliefs you have to assume to arrive at the conclusion you make.
You are not even sure of you beliefs. You are even ashamed to quote this bible passage.


9 Now for some time a man named Simon had practiced sorcery in the city and amazed all the people of Samaria. He boasted that he was someone great, 10 and all the people, both high and low, gave him their attention and exclaimed, “This man is rightly called the Great Power of God.” 11 They followed him because he had amazed them for a long time with his sorcery. 12 But when they believed Philip as he proclaimed the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. 13 Simon himself believed and was baptized. And he followed Philip everywhere, astonished by the great signs and miracles he saw.

14 When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to Samaria. 15 When they arrived, they prayed for the new believers there that they might receive the Holy Spirit, 16 because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

18 When Simon saw that the Spirit was given at the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money 19 and said, “Give me also this ability so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”

20 Peter answered: “May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money! 21 You have no part or share in this ministry, because your heart is not right before God. 22 Repent of this wickedness and pray to the Lord in the hope that he may forgive you for having such a thought in your heart. 23 For I see that you are full of bitterness and captive to sin.”

24 Then Simon answered, “Pray to the Lord for me so that nothing you have said may happen to me.”

25 After they had further proclaimed the word of the Lord and testified about Jesus, Peter and John returned to Jerusalem, preaching the gospel in many Samaritan villages.


IT'S LIKE YOU GUYS IN THAT SCAM YOU CALL RELIGION HATE QUOTING BIBLE PASSAGES. READ AND UNDERSTAND THE PASSAGE.

YOU THINK YOU CAN THINK FOR THE BIBLE. YOU EVEN HAVE TO THINK FOR PAUL, PETER AND THE EARLY CHRISTIANS. WHAT THEY DIDN'T SAY AND DIDN'T DO YOU ASSUME THEY SAID AND DID IT

what else can I say .. that account shows clearly that it is the first apostles that directly share with others The gift by laying their hands on them ...
if that's not true ni.. that simon would not have offered money to receive it..and Peter rebuked him..
it's different from nowadays that people will be trying to get miraculous gifts by shouting on top of their voices for something that they don't need.

Crysthaniel:
we should remember that it's Jesus that made these statements as regards to noah's day.. if its not going to be that way he would not have say something like that

And as regards of Organization.. Yes every one needs to be in Jehovah's arrangement or organization to be saved.. Jehovah has been and continues choosing people from all corners of the earth to be his -bearing his name, yes a people for his name.. Please read Isaiah 43:6-13 a vital prophecy was written by Isaiah and acts 15:14 in connection also Amos 9:11-12.. The work is currently going on now until Jehovah said its done.. You can go to our website www.jw.org for more answers you gonna like it just try

[quote author=OneJ post=72014252][/quote]Crysthaniel , that man "hairyranpunzel" was disfellowshipped from the Christian congregation of Jehovah's witnesses.
He is an apostate. Number 16:1-3,20-27
1 cor 5:1-3,9-13.
Pls take note.

OneJ:
Crysthaniel , that man "hairyranpunzel" was disfellowshipped from the Christian congregation of Jehovah's witnesses.
He is an apostate. Number 16:1-3,20-27
1 cor 5:1-3,9-13.
Pls take note.

oooh...I perceived that thanks Bro
#adjustedmyself

OneJ:
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maximumimpact, Why U dey throw shade, dey dodge my question & lie lie against me ?

Pls be specific to point out where I justified the ungodly acts that U alleged that those JWs (the ones U mentioned) had done.

U may think i don't know what am saying, but even yourself knows that there's an atom of fact in my "alleged" claims. I love JWs in other aspects and if i ever want to be religious again i will go back there. I still know JWs have more twisted version of the bible more than any other christian denomination.

Crysthaniel:
what else can I say .. that account shows clearly that it is the first apostles that directly share with others The gift by laying their hands on them ...
if that's not true ni.. that simon would not have offered money to receive it..and Peter rebuked him..
it's different from nowadays that people will be trying to get miraculous gifts by shouting on top of their voices for something that they don't need.

So you wanted to lie that the bible said the gifts of performing miracles ended with the first century Christians and I caught you red handed.

You can't say what the bible never mentions. It's just your assumption that performing miracles ended with the apostles because someone wanted to buy the gift from the apostles


18 When Simon saw that the Spirit was given at the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money 19 and said, “Give me also this ability so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”

This is Peter's reply to the man:


20 Peter answered: “May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money! 21 You have no part or share in this ministry, because your heart is not right before God.


Peter never said God gave only the apostles the gift of performing miracles neither did he say that the gift was going to end with the first century Christians.

Your beliefs are based on assumptions because you make assumptions for yourselves on Everything the bible is silent about.

You want to change mouth.
The man thought he could by the gift of the holy spirit by giving peter money and peter rebuked him for that.

Don't try to change narrative.
You said that the gift of performing miracles ended with the first century Christians and this discussion was never about people shouting on top of their voices to get what they don't need.


Your governing body members that say they alone have the gift of the holy spirit Nko? I know peter or Paul in the Bible didn't lay hands on them.

Hypocrite.

OneJ:
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maximumimpact, Why U dey throw shade, dey dodge my question & lie lie against me ?

Pls be specific to point out where I justified the ungodly acts that U alleged that those JWs (the ones U mentioned) had done.

maximunimpact:
U may think i don't know what am saying, but even yourself knows that there's an atom of fact in my "alleged" claims. I love JWs in other aspects and if i ever want to be religious again i will go back there. I still know JWs have more twisted version of the bible more than any other christian denomination.

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1) U have FAILED to give proof that to your fallacious claims I justified the ungodly acts U alleged that some JWs had done.

2) Your post above reveals that U a person who speaks with both sides of his mouth. U lied against me, worst still ,U cast aspersion on the JWs as idol worshippers with "more twisted version of the Bible".

Yet, if U "ever want to be religious again", U "will go back there" to JW.
U be chameleon. Your way no straight.
Omo, unrepentant ones & apostates like U are not welcome..

OneJ:
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1) U have FAILED to give proof that to your fallacious claims I justified the ungodly acts U alleged that some JWs had done.

2) Your post above reveals that U a person who speaks with both sides of his mouth. U lied against me, worst still ,U cast aspersion on the JWs as idol worshippers with "more twisted version of the Bible".

Yet, if U "ever want to be religious again", U "will go back there" to JW.
U be chameleon. Your way no straight.
Omo, unrepentant ones & apostates like U are not welcome..

Apostates? that's the name your elders hangs on those they want to shun... i said inspite of the shortcomings in JW i still will go back there some day. Just that anyone who disagrees with the lies the governing body rolls out every now and then becomes an apostate. I will say it again that jws will rather consult idol than pray for miracles. Case closed!

maximunimpact:
Apostates? that's the name your elders hangs on those they want to shun... i said inspite of the shortcomings in JW i still will go back there some day. Just that anyone who disagrees with the lies the governing body rolls out every now and then becomes an apostate. I will say it again that jws will rather consult idol than pray for miracles. Case closed!

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U falsely claimed "that JWs will rather consult idol than pray for miracles..."
(asuustrike1 has already faulted your fallacy )
Ogidigan of lie lie.

Hahahahahaha!!!!!

Pls do not harden your heart (Hebr12:1).
Return to JEHOVAH, like the prodigal son.
Shalom.