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TayserMahiri:
Fake ass. Kazikazi, every Mzansi can tell you arent South African.

What's going on here between you Kenyans and Tanzanians?seems like you have a cold war or something.

I think you're trivializing Kenya non-interference policy. Kenya had the same policy for Zimbwabwe, Namibia, and South Africa - still under white minority rule - like it's had for Uganda or Ethiopia or Sudan - that had their own internal issues. You could come to Nairobi live or work - but gov was NEVER going to finance or host rebels - Yes weapons could be allowed to pass Kenya border - to Rwanda or Sudan or Uganda - but that as as much as it went.

Tanzania and Ethiopia had exact opposite ideology - and supported rebels & causes all over the map - and eventually found themselves entangled in a messy affair in uganda.

Kenya non-interference policy was the reason why we largely avoided conflict traps that many African countries soon found themselves entangled in all over Africa - and that policy ought to be upheld.

TayserMahiri:
When you come from a country where you used armed insurrection and war to gain independence you would find it hard to understand what help South Africans needed when they werent already actively fighting. The last person you would convince that SA needed significant help was Jomo Kenyatta. Kenyans simply assumed South Africans werent the warring types and would proceed on with their peaceful marches like the rest of the peaceful march movements across Africa (like Tanzania) till they got independence, which actually happened, though of course very late. Thats not to say we never helped the South Africans in their times of need. The Kenyan govt was made up of left leaning anti-apartheid ministers like Dr Munyua Waiyaki and right leaning nutjobs who believed in people helping themselves first before being helped like Charles Njonjo. Needless to say, the left leaning types were a minority who couldnt convince the majority what was there to help when South Africans werent even in the bush fighting in the first place. In the apartheid days, all Kenyan passports had a stamp that allowed holders to visit every country in the world except South Africa. We always had a coldish relationship with SA right from apartheid days until very recently.

TayserMahiri:


Thats it. The idiot is WankWank

Lionessza6:
Lol, a fool got trolled by another and decided to lash out at the worst people. "Mr white man told us", if we wanted to have a go at Kenya, trust me we would not hide behind silly monikers to do it, we have enough ammunition for the attack . Oh and it's not the scamming Anglos on them tea and flower farms , the Indians in those factories or them Chinese prisoners on the rails , I can think of two main positions we would take to get to the promised land lol.

My friend , did you just call the Gautrain a white man's sweat ? The last time I checked they were the ones " sweating " their asses off to kill the whole project from conception because it was " unnecessary expenditure " , but today are the first to flood the damn thing .

You said who is lazy ? I'm guessing you got this from them Anglo zionists (prophets of prosperity and doom ) giving interviews in Nairobi right ? Becareful though, they know how to sweet talk you to your own death lol. The country that seems to pain many people in the continent was built on the backs of them lazy people , so ofcourse we would beat our chests over the sweat of our forefathers . Afterall , we have people around the continent bragging about things built by lebanese, chinko money and labour, unlike our " lazy" asses who had to Labour for the infrastructure you see today and yes it was built from the proceeds of our natural resources, mined by lazy people . Define lazy for me please . Can you show me one thing that " hardworking " and " smart" black Kenyans have that my people would envy ? Just one thing .

You said Rustenberg is what ?. You are getting dumber by the minute my guy . 90% of South Africa is developed and from your inferiority ridden write up , I'm guessing we the lazy blacks all live in the remaining small space and them Gods are all living in wealth . , is that how things are in Kenya?. It's like you are projecting . Don't take sissy punches on us , declare war so that we can come fight you directly , we fckn despise ball- less and two -faced negroes .

Ihaveleftnaija:
Interesting.
How about we have Kenya vs South Africa for a change .

Why are South African women so aggressive , I was watching a video of winnie mandela on YouTube,, she was beating up a white soldier and the comments from South African women particulary were very scary, that's next to the black American psychos who also did not see anything wrong with her demonic actions.

Hey, Lioness, I think we agreed to hold this fire till 2030. I have to say that guy was completely out of line, reacting to a comment from a Tanzanian pretending to be a South African. Dont let it get into you.

However, I must say we also have enough ammo to do the job if push comes to shove, and we know exactly what to pick on. In the profanities department it would likely be a tie if not an outright win for the 254. The only part you would win is the development part which is why am insisting we wait till there is a level playing field. Anyway, that sasool idiot is a Tanzanian, ignore his pretense. South Africans are not that desperate

TayserMahiri:
Hey, Lioness, I think we agreed to hold this fire till 2030. I have to say that guy was completely out of line, reacting to a comment from a Tanzanian pretending to be a South African. Dont let it get into you.

However, I must say we also have enough ammo to do the job if push comes to shove, and we know exactly what to pick on. In the profanities department it would likely be a tie if not an outright win for the 254. The only part you would win is the development part which is why am insisting we wait till there is a level playing field. Anyway, that sasool idiot is a Tanzanian, ignore his pretense. South Africans are not the desperate types.

Remind Lioness we got the moab bomb..we call still scream white folks all the time..it works most of the time..

TayserMahiri:
When you come from a country where you used armed insurrection and war to gain independence you would find it hard to understand what help South Africans needed when they werent already actively fighting. The last person you would convince that SA needed significant help was Jomo Kenyatta. Kenyans simply assumed South Africans werent the warring types and would proceed on with their peaceful marches like the rest of the peaceful march movements across Africa (like Tanzania) till they got independence, which actually happened, though of course very late. Thats not to say we never helped the South Africans in their times of need. The Kenyan govt was made up of left leaning anti-apartheid ministers like Dr Munyua Waiyaki and right leaning nutjobs who believed in people helping themselves first before being helped like Charles Njonjo. Needless to say, the left leaning types were a minority who couldnt convince the majority what was there to help when South Africans werent even in the bush fighting in the first place. In the apartheid days, all Kenyan passports had a stamp that allowed holders to visit every country in the world except South Africa. We always had a coldish relationship with SA right from apartheid days until very recently.

So msee we basically screwed up bigtime heh…

rvp2018:
I think you're trivializing Kenya non-interference policy. Kenya had the same policy for Zimbwabwe, Namibia, and South Africa - still under white minority rule - like it's had for Uganda or Ethiopia or Sudan - that had their own internal issues. You could come to Nairobi live or work - but gov was NEVER going to finance or host rebels - Yes weapons could be allowed to pass Kenya border - to Rwanda or Sudan or Uganda - but that as as much as it went.

Tanzania and Ethiopia had exact opposite ideology - and supported rebels & causes all over the map - and eventually found themselves entangled in a messy affair in uganda.

Kenya non-interference policy was the reason why we largely avoided conflict traps that many African countries soon found themselves entangled in all over Africa - and that policy ought to be upheld.

You are the one trivializing the issue with politically correct narratives. KEnya was actively helping Namibia as early as 1964 during the SWAPO days before quickly realizing how little Southern African nations were willing to go into an armed struggle and from then on decided to let people do their thing in their own preferred style.

TayserMahiri:
Hey, Lioness, I think we agreed to hold this fire till 2030. I have to say that guy was completely out of line, reacting to a comment from a Tanzanian pretending to be a South African. Dont let it get into you.

However, I must say we also have enough ammo to do the job if push comes to shove, and we know exactly what to pick on. In the profanities department it would likely be a tie if not an outright win for the 254. The only part you would win is the development part which is why am insisting we wait till there is a level playing field. Anyway, that sasool idiot is a Tanzanian, ignore his pretense. South Africans are not the desperate types.

Its too late.since you talked rubbish,we have to respond.both you Kenyans and naija drug lords will have to suffer for your no sense.Mzansi is not your league.

mtisTheQubit:
Ever wondered why the right wing nuts always hate Iran but don’t talk about Saudi despite most of 9/11 hijackers being Saudis..Its a question Americans avoid to answer..

The existential threat to Israel's dominance in the middle east is Iran. The. greatest lobbying force in the US government is run by the Jews. When Obama was in power, he tried not to let their lobbying affect his foreign policy and the Jews were greatly incensed when Obama struck the nuclear treaty with Iran.

Iran have been agitated at the US since they funded two coups in Iran in the '50s.

When Trump came in, one of the first things he did was ramp up sanctions on Iran, then also cancel the nuclear treaty.

It's amusing when it's easier for the US to be allies with a country like Saudi Arabia that murdered three thousand of their own people, on their own soil.

The Jews got them on a choke hold.

TayserMahiri:
You are the one trivializing the issue with politically correct narratives. KEnya was actively helping Namibia as early as 1964 during the SWAPO days before quickly realizing how little Southern African nations were willing to go into an armed struggle and from then on decided to let people do their thing in their own preferred style.

Wasn't this doctrine of non-interference by Kenya bolstered by Western aids. I know for a fact that if it wasn't for Cuba and Russia, Namibia wouldn't have become independent at the time they did.

forgiveness:
Na real mumu be the guy. I was like, what's did? Hahahaha! Walahi, the guy no get sense. I am sorry to say.

No need to tell sorry? you're Right!

Define actively helping. Did kenya send armed forces or arms or allowed SWAPO to have rebel camp in Kenya. 1964 - Jomo kenyatta had more serious issues to deal with - than think about Namibia some thousand miles away.

TayserMahiri:
You are the one trivializing the issue with politically correct narratives. KEnya was actively helping Namibia as early as 1964 during the SWAPO days before quickly realizing how little Southern African nations were willing to go into an armed struggle and from then on decided to let people do their thing in their own preferred style.

boostdom:
The existential threat to Israel's dominance in the middle east is Iran. The. greatest lobbying force in the US government is run by the Jews. When Obama was in power, he tried not to let their lobbying affect his foreign policy and the Jews were greatly incensed when Obama struck the nuclear treaty with Iran.

Iran have been agitated at the US since they funded two coups in Iran in the '50s.

When Trump came in, one of the first things he did was ramp up sanctions on Iran, then also cancel the nuclear treaty.

It's amusing when it's easier for the US to be allies with a country like Saudi Arabia that murdered three thousand of their own people, on their own soil.

The Jews got them on a choke hold.

This is what am getting from western front:

" And while I’m not suggesting the killing of Khashoggi was justified, let’s not forget that Khashoggi was no great peacemaker. He was a propagandist for the Muslim Brotherhood, an opponent of Saudi friendship with the US (and with Israel), a proponent of alliance with Turkey and Qatar, and a shill for disaffected princes opposed to MBS. "

So now the fear of Saudi is a survival tactic

boostdom:
Wasn't this doctrine of non-interference by Kenya bolstered by Western aids. I know for a fact that if it wasn't for Cuba and Russia, Namibia wouldn't have become independent at the time they did.

Its a fact that Kenya have been a puppet of Whites since time memorial. They didn't care for the suffering of their African brothers.Just imagine the atrocities the white minority placed to the blacks in south Africa.But Kenya choose to fold their hands.The non aligned movement wasn't designed to make nations passive during during genocides or any autocratic rule like the apartheid.The non aligned notion was supported by countries like cuba,India,Zambia,Tanzania and so forth.but these nation weren't passive on apartheid.
So if I may ask,which non aligned movement did Kenya belong to?Its shockingly autrageous for kenyans to even mentioning it,considering the behavior portrayed by your leadership during apartheid south Africa.

sasol:
Oh I am no longer a naija? That's great hey

acha ufala ww

TayserMahiri:


Thats it. The idiot is WankWank

mtisTheQubit:
This is what am getting from western front:

" And while I’m not suggesting the killing of Khashoggi was justified, let’s not forget that Khashoggi was no great peacemaker. He was a propagandist for the Muslim Brotherhood, an opponent of Saudi friendship with the US (and with Israel), a proponent of alliance with Turkey and Qatar, and a shill for disaffected princes opposed to MBS. "

So now the fear of Saudi is a survival tactic

What "western front"? When you make quotes, supply the source. That might as well have come from Saudi trolls.

sasol:
Its a fact that Kenya have been a puppet of Whites since time memorial. They didn't care for the suffering of their African brothers.Just imagine the atrocities the white minority placed to the blacks in south Africa.But Kenya choose to fold their hands.The non aligned movement wasn't designed to make nations passive during during genocides or any autocratic rule like the apartheid.The non aligned notion was supported by countries like cuba,India,Zambia,Tanzania and so forth.but these nation weren't passive on apartheid.
So if I may ask,which non aligned movement did Kenya belong to?Its shockingly autrageous for kenyans to even mentioning it,considering the behavior portrayed by your leadership during apartheid south Africa.

I am not Kenyan, in case you were wondering.

My question to him was a rope-a-dope. I wanted him to clarify, in his opinion, if the supposed non-aligned movement by Kenya was altruistic or just opportunistic.

There are many ways to support a cause - kenya supported anti-apertheid in many ways - but refuse to host armed ANC rebels - and that is true for South Africa or close home in East Africa - we hosted refugees, provide safe havens for their leadership and their families - but simply draw the line when it come to the extend such assistance can be extended.For a long time kenya modeled himself - as Africa swiss - with strict non-interference in internal affairs of a soverign country except through UN or AU - and I hope we remain the same -- going to Somali and getting stuck there sound to me like a mistake already - thankfully the invasion was re-hatted into AMISON force.

sasol:
Its a fact that Kenya have been a puppet of Whites since time memorial. They didn't care for the suffering of their African brothers.Just imagine the atrocities the white minority placed to the blacks in south Africa.But Kenya choose to fold their hands.The non aligned movement wasn't designed to make nations passive during during genocides or any autocratic rule like the apartheid.The non aligned notion was supported by countries like cuba,India,Zambia,Tanzania and so forth.but these nation weren't passive on apartheid.
So if I may ask,which non aligned movement did Kenya belong to?Its shockingly autrageous for kenyans to even mentioning it,considering the behavior portrayed by your leadership during apartheid south Africa.

Kenya of course pursue it's self-interest. It not in our interest to army rebels of any nature - because nothing stop other countries from similarly arming rebels against us. Apertheid was never won through armed conflict. It was ended with cold war. Countries like TZ for example contributed to cold war by aligning with China and Rusia - we remained friendly to both Russia and Western world - and of course to British/Commonwealth because it made sense - self-interest wise.

boostdom:
I am not Kenyan, in case you were wondering.

My question to him was a rope-a-dope. I wanted him to clarify, in his opinion, if the supposed non-aligned movement by Kenya was altruistic or just opportunistic.

Kazikazi:
What you are saying is the ANC was just the rebels? So Tanzania didn't suffer at all because of hosting ANC and PAC? Didn't we spend our little resources we had for helping the people whom the world and you Kenyans abandoned in their time of need? Now you just want to sound wise?

You suffered because you allowed the boers to air bomb you, all the way from South Africa. Majimaji tendencies. Take the L and step aside.

rvp2018:
You should have helped yourself first. After end of Apertheid - the white Boers companies simply overrun Tanzania and now you're the slaves of the Boers. When they tried Kenya - they "found" it a hard nut to crack - because we really never blocked boers from coming here and doing their bizness.

Help yourselves first. Now you host the 3rd largest poor people - 20M plus - in Africa - after Nigeria & DRC - and nobody is helping you.

Our foreign policy has remained non-aligned. We are too poor to shoulder responsibilities that likes of US, UK, China and such countries ought to take individually - but we will support UN, AU and such multilateral agencies.

We oppose Apartheid - and that is the far we could do - the same way we refuse to get into Uganda or Sudan or Somali or Ethiopia - or even Tanzania - we simply refuse to host rebels or assist any group militarily outside the UN/AU.

Nailed it. Nyerere lacked foresight, an integral part in being a leader. Help yourselves first, common sense!

sasol:
Don't mention south African past history of apartheid if you couldn't join us.Zambians helped so as Tanzania's under Mwalimu Nyerere.we thank them.We will remain bonded and support the country like Tanzania for the sacrifices made for thina.umuntu ngu....

Kazikazi, you are not South African. This is pathetic.

mtisTheQubit:
it’s nice but looks like a test drive. Where are the customers…Was expecting hundreds if not thousands of naijas queuing..You got admit I got a valid point there

No. You don't have a valid point because this was just test drive.

rvp2018:
You should have helped yourself first. After end of Apertheid - the white Boers companies simply overrun Tanzania and now you're the slaves of the Boers. When they tried Kenya - they "found" it a hard nut to crack - because we really never blocked boers from coming here and doing their bizness.

Help yourselves first. Now you host the 3rd largest poor people - 20M plus - in Africa - after Nigeria & DRC - and nobody is helping you.

Our foreign policy has remained non-aligned. We are too poor to shoulder responsibilities that likes of US, UK, China and such countries ought to take individually - but we will support UN, AU and such multilateral agencies.

We oppose Apartheid - and that is the far we could do - the same way we refuse to get into Uganda or Sudan or Somali or Ethiopia - or even Tanzania - we simply refuse to host rebels or assist any group militarily outside the UN/AU.

Saint Kenya is on the list of the poorest in Africa.

boostdom:
What "western front"? When you make quotes, supply the source. That might as well have come from Saudi trolls.

It’s a general reaction from many of western countries trying not to offend Saudi for one reason or another..
This is a quote from one prominent evangelical leader (Pat Robertson ) on Khashoggi crisis

“ You’ve got $100 billion worth of arms sales...we cannot alienate our biggest player in the Middle East.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=116&v=5RZVIANQpMA

forgiveness:
No. You don't have a valid point because this was just test drive.

Ok smarty pants here we dont test drive we run the real thing..

mtisTheQubit:
Ok smarty pants here we dont test drive we run the real thing..

And who told you we are not doing the real thing after test drive, huh?

Lionessza6:
Lol, a fool got trolled by another and decided to lash out at the worst people. "Mr white man told us", if we wanted to have a go at Kenya, trust me we would not hide behind silly monikers to do it, we have enough ammunition for the attack . Oh and it's not the scamming Anglos on them tea and flower farms , the Indians in those factories or them Chinese prisoners on the rails , I can think of two main positions we would take to get to the promised land lol.

My friend , did you just call the Gautrain a white man's sweat ? The last time I checked they were the ones " sweating " their asses off to kill the whole project from conception because it was " unnecessary expenditure " , but today are the first to flood the damn thing .

You said who is lazy ? I'm guessing you got this from them Anglo zionists (prophets of prosperity and doom ) giving interviews in Nairobi right ? Becareful though, they know how to sweet talk you to your own death lol. The country that seems to pain many people in the continent was built on the backs of them lazy people , so ofcourse we would beat our chests over the sweat of our forefathers . Afterall , we have people around the continent bragging about things built by lebanese, chinko money and labour, unlike our " lazy" asses who had to Labour for the infrastructure you see today and yes it was built from the proceeds of our natural resources, mined by lazy people . Define lazy for me please . Can you show me one thing that " hardworking " and " smart" black Kenyans have that my people would envy ? Just one thing .

You said Rustenberg is what ?. You are getting dumber by the minute my guy . 90% of South Africa is developed and from your inferiority ridden write up , I'm guessing we the lazy blacks all live in the remaining small space and them Gods are all living in wealth . , is that how things are in Kenya?. It's like you are projecting . Don't take sissy punches on us , declare war so that we can come fight you directly , we fckn despise ball- less and two -faced negroes .

Wait is sasol a Tanzanian or a south African?
And if he's a south African,why are you just hurt with my response to him?
Seems they're bitter.

gallivant:
Kazikazi, you are not South African. This is pathetic.

Ho ho ho ho...solve ur issues.I am not a small boy.one day you guys will respect me..just watch this place.mind u,I am not a chang'aa drinker..I will have a last laugh here

Moi referral hospital to build Africa's largest hospital.

Eldoret-based Moi Teaching and Referral Hospital has sought approval to build Africa’s largest hospital with 4,000 beds to service western Kenya’s 24 million people.

South Africa’s Chris Hani Baragwanath Hospital with, 3,400 beds is currently the largest.

According to regulatory filings, the Sh28 billion project, earmarked for construction on 200 acres at Kiplombe on the outskirts of Eldoret town, will complement services offered at its current multi-specialty 1,000-bed centre on Nandi Road.

The report says the 4,000 beds will be accommodated in six multi-storeyed buildings and an accompanying 36 nursing units. It adds that 22 new general outpatient clinics will be hosted in a three-floor complex that will also accommodate a paediatric clinic, thereby easing congestion and fast-tracking dispensation of services to residents.

The notice contained in the Kenya Gazette said a five-floor medical technology block will be put up as well as a separate administration office block with new staff apartments. The plan includes a research development and innovation building on a separate block.


Moi referral hospital accused of illegally deducting staff pay
Rotich memo raises parastatal board members pay 87 per cent
The announcement indicates an end to a raging ownership row with a group of squatters that hampered commencement of the project last year.

The new project dwarfs the biggest referral and regional hospital, Kenyatta National Hospital, that currently has 1,800 beds and 6,000 members of staff.

On Monday, National Environmental Management Authority said it would make its decision known in the next 30 days.

There had been a long-standing legal battle between the hospital and the Kenya Prison Service over ownership of a section of the land. But the dispute was resolved after the National Land Commission permitted the use of the property for the hospital project.

https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Moi-Referral-to-build-Africa-s-largest-hospital/996-4817806-sjekdfz/index.html

Yobeezy:
Moi referral hospital to build Africa's largest hospital.

Eldoret-based Moi Teaching and Referral Hospital has sought approval to build Africa’s largest hospital with 4,000 beds to service western Kenya’s 24 million people.

South Africa’s Chris Hani Baragwanath Hospital with, 3,400 beds is currently the largest.

According to regulatory filings, the Sh28 billion project, earmarked for construction on 200 acres at Kiplombe on the outskirts of Eldoret town, will complement services offered at its current multi-specialty 1,000-bed centre on Nandi Road.

The report says the 4,000 beds will be accommodated in six multi-storeyed buildings and an accompanying 36 nursing units. It adds that 22 new general outpatient clinics will be hosted in a three-floor complex that will also accommodate a paediatric clinic, thereby easing congestion and fast-tracking dispensation of services to residents.

The notice contained in the Kenya Gazette said a five-floor medical technology block will be put up as well as a separate administration office block with new staff apartments. The plan includes a research development and innovation building on a separate block.


Moi referral hospital accused of illegally deducting staff pay
Rotich memo raises parastatal board members pay 87 per cent
The announcement indicates an end to a raging ownership row with a group of squatters that hampered commencement of the project last year.

The new project dwarfs the biggest referral and regional hospital, Kenyatta National Hospital, that currently has 1,800 beds and 6,000 members of staff.

On Monday, National Environmental Management Authority said it would make its decision known in the next 30 days.

There had been a long-standing legal battle between the hospital and the Kenya Prison Service over ownership of a section of the land. But the dispute was resolved after the National Land Commission permitted the use of the property for the hospital project.

https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Moi-Referral-to-build-Africa-s-largest-hospital/996-4817806-sjekdfz/index.html

What is the use of having large hospital but lack the quality?This is another SGR.we in Tanzania don't shout much but we have the best public hospital in the region.this is what we have already..