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Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by MuttleyLaff: 6:09pm On Oct 27, 2018 |
LordReed:Aim for the ball and kick it about, not be kicking or stomping on the foot Face and deal with the message, not the messenger LordReed:If it is that easy and cheap to create a universe and human beings, why haven't you, LordReed Mr. Big Stuff who is cleverer than God or any of your other guys you're in cahoots with, not gone to do or create one? If you don't like how things are being on schedule run, then you know what to do. Jump ship LordReed |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by frank317: 6:46pm On Oct 27, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: Why did God not kill Satan from the onset. The question was asked by a 13 years old who understand that ur God's action didn't make sense. U said God knew man would fail and put some things in place... Yet a 13 year old is questioning ur Gods action. |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by LordReed(m): 7:00pm On Oct 27, 2018 |
Ihedinobi3: OK you now understand how its a bet right? Good. Yes Job suffered in the the fairytale story needlessly also his children and servants died because a supposedly all powerful, all knowing god, all good god needed to show off to the evil, rebellious Satan. It is clearly an illogical fairytale but of course you have more elaborate explanations.
How about you bring the meaning of lie and show how those statements are lies since you are the one making the accusations.
Because neither my teachers nor books claim to be divine, nor do they want me to worship them or believe them on faith. The fairytale book was not written by any divine being but yet with no proof, wants me to take on faith the existence of a divine being. No truth requires faith to operate, any truth that demands faith is fake. If an all knowing divine being wants me to understand it then unequivocal truths which require no faith or sophistry would be presented.
You accept that Father of lies is a personification but still say the bible does not regard Satan as the personification of evil, is this not contradictory? Is it not the bible that says Satan is the father of lies? Why do you need to quibble with the most obvious of details?
LoL again more elaborate stories to explain the already illogical stories. How is it logical that god has an enemy who has subverted a third of his angelic forces and attempted to seize the throne and still god allows him the responsibility of stewardship of earth? This is the same question the 13 yr old asked in another way, how is this god just allowing his archenemy to do what ever he likes. And the illogical Job story goes on to have the archenemy in his presence even though it is said he cannot behold evil. And not only that, is sweet talked into giving permission for his own best servant to be evilly treated. It is just insane and shows a god who is just dull cos at the end of it there is no lesson for Satan nor does Satan stop doing the accuser of the brethren role. Just a stupid story really.
Again you are the one conjecturing this summons, the text does not say that. And even if we accept it was a summons the fact that it is a reluctant action does not negate the characterization of it as an everlasting buspass, for Satan to be there it means he has permission to be there, whether by force or will. Also this your summons narrative does nothing to explain how he is constantly in heaven accusing the brethren. So is it every time he wants to accuse the brethren that god summons him? This is just a mess of illogicality.
The bible story is illogical and no matter how you try you can't fill the holes. The more you try to explain it the more illogicality is exposed. It was not written by any divine being or under the direction of one so it continues to throw up extremely illogical reasons for the conditions of the universe. You have not shown in even one place were what I wrote was false or presented falsely so you are the one engaged in falsity and high falutin arguments. It is not surprising since you are defending illogicalities. 1 Like |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by LordReed(m): 7:11pm On Oct 27, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: LMFAO! I have told you what to do if my humour pains you so much, report to your imaginary magic sky daddy. Your blatherings are boring, run along to sky daddy, now there's a good boy. |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by RuthlessLeader(m): 7:13pm On Oct 27, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:I'm beginning to question your intelligence. Slandering God, is what you're good atThat incompetent bitch can suck my balls. /quote]Did he forcibly lead the innocent into sin? Is he forcibly causing and bringing about the damnation of billions for eternity?[/quote] Yes. He did all that by corrupting adam and eve, which had the effect of all their descendants being damned unwillingly. So much for free will. What made you think He didnt caution satan and told him what he would do?The fact that this was never mentioned in the bible. Have you forgotten that Satan has a mind of his own?So because of free will, satan is alowed to harm billions by proxy through adam and eve, meanwhile the free will of humanity is ignored because... reasons? What made you think God never or didnt at least talk to satan to prevent the events of the bible?What makes you think God did? Judging by God's general incompetence, I think he didn't. And by my previous post, God created satan evil, so he made no mistake. Sin kills, if sin wasnt committed, we wouldnt be here, having this conversation RuthGod is a lazy mofo, if he wasn't a lazy mofo, we wouldn't be here having this conversation mutt It is knowledge gaps that leads you into making spurious comments like "punish all of humanity for the sins of three people"Lol. I am more interested in stating and showing you the reality instead of giving you excuses Ruth.Your own deluded reality. OK, you say Satan was a danger when he was createdRead post 280 to know my answer. You turn soft work into hard workKeep telling yourself that. [s]Let me break it down for youTo compare that universe with the one God owns, so we can see who runs theirs better and so mankind can decide which they want to live in. That's free will by the way. If it is that easy and cheap to create a universe and human beings, why haven't Satan, you, LordReed and frank317 not gone to do one?Because your lazy ass god refuses to use his power and give me one. Or maybe it's because god is imaginary and the whole personal universe was a HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO. Ruth, I am not making it sound like God planned for satan to rebelYes you are. neither am I indirectly saying God was incompetent.Yes you are making god sound incompetent. God, just as was done with Adam and Eve, gave Satan, a moment of choice.Post 280 shows my new thoughts on this matter. Ruth, you cant hide from the fact that, Satan was given total freedom to be himself,Whatever It is close and similar to, why none of frank317 characters ever question frank317So we are characters in a book with a predestined set of actions. Okay. Privilege means a special right or advantage that only one person or group of people hasOkay. How does god's privilege allow satan to wreak havoc. What's your birthdate?Lame. 1/ People are not punished for infinitySubstantiate this with bible verses or you are a liar. 2/ God is above been morally wrongSo he's above good and evil, yet can't create us above good and evil. 3/ The earth is a perfect rehabilitation system for sinnersNo it's not. The earth is where sinners are made, god why do you lack intelligence like this. 4/ Hell is a Greek concept, Sheol or Hades is the approprite word to useYou don't have sense. Hades is the GREEK god of the dead and the underworld, and aren't all three places people are damned to for eternity? Remember I wrote:Why didn't God fucking replace the template when the flaw was introduced? God's incompetence and/or evil nature is the reason for the pain and suffering. Ruth, you dont change the default settings so newly created files aren't corrupted, it's the template that is replaced and/or renamedWhy doesn't god do that already? Should have thought about that first before eating of fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.Yes. God should have thought about that. And why did God put that tree there in the first place? We didnt have to find meaning in either (i.e. suffering or happiness)Translation: I don't know so I 'm going to say goddidit. Why dont you in protest go and create your own parallel universe and your own perfect human beingsTranslation: I was caught off gaurd, and rather than say I don't know, I will ask a stupid question to throw my opponent off. Just say you don't know, I will only laugh at you. I admit I am not half as unfunny as you are with your lame, weak and flat jokesI never asked for this explanation of your pathetic jokes. Those verses were talking about you specificallyClown. That's what you are. After being busted for contradicting yourself or having no answer to my questions, you post stupid responses, questions and insults to damage control instead of admitting you don't know. I believe whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you a better and strongerStill said a whole lot of rubbish. You are a clown, on the level of your brothers, felixmoron, foreverscammer and schizophrenicbutterfly. |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by orisa37: 7:26pm On Oct 27, 2018 |
God doesn't kill and won't stain His Hands in blood. He uses Satan to kill whatever deserves to die. 1 Like |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by Nobody: 1:34pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
In answering this 13 year old girl's question you'll need to use your freewill to ask this question. If the man who created this robot knew that this robot will one day use its freewill and turn the world to what it is today, what will the man do? Options: 1. The man will make sure the robot does not have freewill so that it will not fall for the deceit of another robot that has already turned bad due to it's own freewill. 2. The man will prepare another super robot that will come to recuse the world from the robots he has created after they have turn the world to what it is today. The truth is that Satan has put his own verses in the Bible to deceive many into believing there is no GOD as anyone using the freewill GOD has given him/her will know this story does not show that an Omnipotent GOD created this world and it is like this today. Image url: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARpd5J5gDMk
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Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by RuthlessLeader(m): 1:49pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
MrBible:What stops him from simply not creating the robot, or putting a limit to it's freewill? |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by truthislight: 1:56pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
Ihedinobi3: Was that ^^^ one still not on planet earth? 2 Likes |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by LordReed(m): 2:52pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
truthislight: With no evidence at all of such a flood but trust Ihedinobi3 to know how water can flood space, engulf all the planets, moons, sun and stars (with no evidence, scientific proof or even workable hypothesis). LMFAO! 3 Likes |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by Nobody: 3:09pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
RuthlessLeader: Good question and in continuation to the previous post below. The answer is that GOD did not create Satan. Satan was the one that created this world including men and women by stealing from GOD what is needed for creation and then mixing creation with his own evil will, in order to deceive men and women that it was GOD Almighty WHO created this world to be the way it is today thereby making many to doubt the existence of an Omnipotent GOD and turning them away from wanting to know GOD Almighty WHO owns all that is in this world including men and women. Because GOD Almighty owns all that is in this world as they were stolen by Satan to create this world, is the reason GOD still has interest in this world and will one day reclaim all that Satan has stolen and save men and women who have not been too contaminated by Satan and GOD Almighty will make the world a perfect place. Since God did not create Satan, this is the reason why there are Supernatural laws that needs to be followed in order for GOD to reclaim this world from Satan in order to make it perfect. MrBible:
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Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by RuthlessLeader(m): 3:19pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
MrBible:And how do you know all this? |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by Nobody: 3:44pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
RuthlessLeader: Because men and women are made in the image of GOD but contaminated by Satan after he stole what is needed for creation, is the reason the world is filled with both good and evil from creation, the good being from GOD Almighty and the evil being Satan's contamination of this world after he stole what is needed for creation. This world is a replica of the supernatural world and that is why humans can make laws and all countries and communities have laws they have to abide by as these laws have already been imprinted in the DNA of humans from creation, just as these robots created by man today have human programmed codes embedded in these robots from when they were created and these robots can never operate outside of this human programmed codes embedded in them. |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by truthislight: 4:02pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
xpmode: RuthlessLeader: xpmode: @Xpmode Don't be a charlatan, see your initial comment and the implied reply you got before you started cursing. If you don't have what to say just keep quiet. Peace. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by theoriginalgood: 6:00pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
xpmode: I can agree that no being actually dies in eternity, but what do you think about this: Good should delete evil from the onset, but Good didn’t because Good couldn’t. What you need to know is that there is a battle between Good and bad. It is obvious Good will win, but it’s just time dependent. Bad has some power to restrict Good. This is why bad STILL exists in the world. Humanity is bad and will be gotten rid of eventually. Sinners need to read Mark 10:18, we’re told only God is Good and this is proven to be true because all humans have an expiry date while God is eternal. A good being should never die. A good being like God has ultimate power to defeat whatever. |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by theoriginalgood: 6:08pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
RuthlessLeader: Does this mean all humanity will spend eternity in hell? I say this because of this: Good should delete evil from the onset, but Good didn’t because Good couldn’t. What you need to know is that there is a battle between Good and bad. It is obvious Good will win, but it’s just time dependent. Bad has some power to restrict Good. This is why bad STILL exists in the world. Humanity is bad and will be gotten rid of eventually. Sinners need to read Mark 10:18, we’re told only God is Good and this is proven to be true because all humans have an expiry date while God is eternal. Nothing should be able to kill a truly good being, but you know humans die all the time in various ways.... |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by LordReed(m): 6:39pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
theoriginalgood: You are just contradicting yourself. God has ultimate power to defeat whatever but Good didn’t because Good couldn’t. You people will always have an excuse for this your fairytale god that doesn't make sense. 1 Like |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by LordReed(m): 6:43pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
MrBible: LoL! Another storyteller has arrived on the scene. You and Ihedinobi3 should get together and write a script, I am sure Hollywood will buy it. 1 Like |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by theoriginalgood: 9:38am On Oct 29, 2018 |
LordReed: Well, I know what I’ve said seems strange, but I thought I explained it well enough. The matter here is just time, mankind is on a journey and not yet at a final destination.... |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by LordReed(m): 10:28am On Oct 29, 2018 |
theoriginalgood: Its not strange, its contradictory so you ended up not explaining anything. Why do humans need a journey where billions die in pain and suffering? Anyway religion is comforting to those who cannot fathom that this life is all there is and death is final. That is why a god is necessary but hardly makes any sense because this universe is not created or run by a god. 1 Like |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by Ihedinobi3: 1:06pm On Oct 30, 2018 |
truthislight:I'm not sure what you want me to answer you. My statement was that the flood covered the whole universe. You opted to correct it to "earth". I told you that it was no mistake on my part, that I said what I meant to say. And now you say the above. If you want to talk about a global but not universal flood, why don't you do so? That would be your own argument. Stop trying to correct what I said with what you think I must have meant. Again, there were two floods. The first covered the whole universe including the earth before man was created and the second covered only the planet earth more than a thousand years after man was created. I was speaking of the first one. Now, if you have something else you wish to say, please say it. 1 Like |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by theoriginalgood: 1:25pm On Oct 30, 2018 |
LordReed: This should be straightforward enough. The one original Good God is somewhere in this existence. At the beginning, he tried to delete bad, but bad actually has some power to prevent this. This is why bad still exists today. Humanity is made up of beings that all die someday. You think a good being is ever supposed to die? Humanity is bad and will be wiped away eventually. |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by Ihedinobi3: 1:47pm On Oct 30, 2018 |
LordReed:I believe that you are being disingenuous. You are saying that you are upset because Job had to suffer because God or Satan knew something? Usually, the meaning you referred to is used thus: "I bet he loses his keys". How does that apply here in the sense of being a "stupid bet"? Again, feel free to believe whatever you want but you must also defend it whenever you begin to argue. Does the Bible say or have I myself argued that Job's experience was so that God would show off in any fashion to Satan? Or is that your own argument? You can call the Bible illogical. You have the freedom to do so. But you will also have to show that it in face is illogical. Can you do that? I'd say no since you haven't managed to, as far as I can see, done that. But it doesn't matter. What you believe is your business. LordReed:How about you put on your big boy hat and actually prove something for once? Those were your statements. Why don't you demonstrate how they are actually true and thus prove me to be lying about calling you a liar. LordReed:This is an irrelevant argument. A book is a book. The physical world is the physical world. If you need somebody to teach you about stuff you see everyday, then why do you think you should be able to understand a book that actually claims that it cannot be understood without certain qualifications and provisions when you do not possess them? The quality of divinity is directly analogous in this case with any claim made by a book of possessing specialized knowledge (like advanced calculus, for example) that can only be accessed if the reader possesses certain qualifications and resources. LordReed:"That hurricane is a killer" is a personification. Shall we say then that the hurricane is the personification of evil? The fact that "Satan is the father of lies" is a personification does not mean that Satan is the personification of evil. This point is being argued because you don't appear to understand what evil is. Evil is just rebellion against God. It is nothing more esoteric than that. Therefore, being a rebel does not mean that if God were to permit or command it, Satan cannot stand before him. Even an earthly king may call a rebellious vassal to attend him in his court if he is able to both compel and restrain him. How much more God? LordReed:Yes, more elaborate stories. That is how the Bible works. Truth leads to more truth for those who are obedient enough to follow. God never allowed Satan to possess stewardship of the Earth. He does not recognize him as the Steward of the Earth. That was why the Lord Jesus became a Man and came to the Earth: to recover control of the Earth from Satan. Man was God's Steward. He forfeited his stewardship to Satan and God recovered it for him. Satan is "allowed to be steward" only in so far as some of God's human stewards give their allegiance to him so that then he has some limited right to present himself in their place. I have already explained about having Satan in Heaven. You are speaking of Habakkuk 1:13. What it means is that God will not tolerate rebellion indefinitely. He will end it eventually. For now, He is permitting it to mature and prove itself irreversible so that when the rebels are punished, there will be no unfairness attributable to God for it. That does not mean that God cannot tolerate Satan. He certainly can and has. Satan is one of His creatures after all. God can definitely afford to have him come before Him in Heaven since He can both compel and restrain him even in his rebelliousness. Does the Bible say that God was sweet-talked into anything or was that your own "conjecture"? Again, the elect angels are learning about God from human history. Satan and the other rebellious angels and humans will find at the Judgment of the White Throne that there is no admissible excuse for which they must not end up in the Lake of Fire. That is how Satan will learn from God's Permission of his continued activity. This is not about changing his mind about anything. Angels are incapable of changing their minds. LordReed:Everything you said here is a bald-faced lie. I gave you three different Bible passages explaining how this is a summons and therefore how Satan can be in Heaven at any time at all. As for a pass, you can keep trying to define words in ways that please you. It appears to be an atheist thing. A pass is permission. My argument is that Satan would not want permission to go to Heaven since he does not want to go there at all. I have also explained why. He is scared of God and being with God prevents him from acting all high and mighty which of course he wants to. So, he would rather be anywhere but Heaven. So, he would not want a pass. He would only go to Heaven under divine compulsion. LordReed:Oh, I have shown up your lies plenty enough times. Now, feel free to actually try to prove something you say. Find the illogicality that has not been adequately explained and demonstrate its "impossible-to-ignore" illogicality and let us know that you know what you are talking about. 1 Like |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by LordReed(m): 1:54pm On Oct 30, 2018 |
theoriginalgood: You still are not answering the question why and you are not clearing up the clear contradiction where you say god is all powerful and bad has power to resist god. If bad has the power to resist god then he is not all powerful. You keep returning to death, to me it shows that it is the fear of death that drives belief in gods and devils. |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by Ihedinobi3: 2:23pm On Oct 30, 2018 |
frank317:So, the definition of "perfection" is that which can never be damaged? Do you want a dictionary again here? Again, it makes no sense that someone possessing foreknowledge should act with foresight? The Bible did not say that the world would quit being messy before the full seven thousand years of human history had run its course. So, the world's still being messy is not proof that God is anything but perfect in planning. frank317:Telling you about anthropopathism which is a legitimate literary device is not the same as changing the meaning of the word "regret". frank317:Feel free to believe that. But believing it does not make it true. If you want to prove that it does, knock yourself out. frank317:I have no reason to believe that the preparation did not go well. The fact that my six year old nephew asks me why I moved a bishop instead of a queen in a game of chess does not mean that I played wrong. frank317:Well, if that is your reason, then you should praise Him as well, since I also said that He prepared the Solution to all the problems that would come from creature possession of a free will and has actually already successfully deployed that Solution. frank317:That's a lot of problems to have with English words, Frank. Incidentally, the word "man" describes both an individual and also the whole complement of the human race so that if some men in that complement make the wrong choice, it is not unreasonable to expect some other men to make the right one. frank317:I take it that you finally agree. I've been saying it from the start of our conversation but you seemed to not really care. frank317:Oh, I have said plenty times that He HAS FIXED and IS FIXING everything. You haven't been paying attention, it appears. frank317:Lots of parents allow their babies to "suffer the needle" to preserve them from dangerous diseases. I suppose by your logic, it means that they enjoy their babies' pain and cries? frank317:There's that "intellectual laziness" we talked about. frank317:More proof that you haven't been paying attention. frank317:No, thank you. I don't often tell those. frank317:Asked and answered. 1 Like |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by Ihedinobi3: 2:38pm On Oct 30, 2018 |
LordReed:And giving you all these would help you believe? Didn't you call all my explanations "elaborate fairytales" or something very like that. I don't remember you even granting me the dignity of having advanced testable hypotheses. Why would anything else I offer make a difference here? 1 Like |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by theoriginalgood: 2:42pm On Oct 30, 2018 |
LordReed: Brilliant! Maybe I can say that “ultimately” God is all-powerful because the conclusion is that Good will eliminate bad from existence. Which brings me to the next point; the temporary or permanent nature of life. I believe when you say “god” and “devil”, you mean one is “good” and the other “bad” accordingly. Yea? The aspect of death is clearly very important. To be able to defeat death, I believe one must be “good”, which is perfect in every way. For ideal logic, something “good” must be permanent as well while something “bad” must be absent in the perfect situation. Unfortunately, since “bad” is not absent, the next logical conclusion is that “bad” should be temporary. This temporary nature means being able to stop or “die”. |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by LordReed(m): 3:36pm On Oct 30, 2018 |
Ihedinobi3: Yes its a stupid and illogical because god says "hey satan, seen my servant job?" Satan replies "yeah I've seen him but I bet you if you did shit to him he'll not be your servant" and god says "yeah go ahead and do shit to him". What stupid god who knows all things needs to acquiesce to an inferior creation to find out what he already knows? Why did he need to even mention Job to satan if not to show off? Why would he need to see Job debased to prove his loyalty? A transcendent god can't think of a better way to express his servant's loyalty than to see him debased? And what lesson did satan take from this, accuse the brethren some more because god will grant satan's wishes? What a stupid tale.
LoL. After you got me to look up a dictionary for the meaning of bet, you refuse to do the same for lie. You are a hypocrite on top of being disingenuous it seems. You made the accusations, you prove it.
LoL. What yeye qualifications are you on about? I went to bible school and speak in tongues so which yeye qualifications do you want again? And even ignoring that, if a transcendent being cannot write its own words then it may as well not exist. If it cannot communicate its ideas in a way the lowliest human can grasp then it is a stupid transcendent being, one that rubbishes the meaning of transcendent. If a transcendent being cannot provide unequivocal proof of its existence then it is a fraud.
Go and look at the difference in meaning between anthropomorphism and personification maybe you'll understand better. Meanwhile is lying not evil according to your fairytale? Do liars go to heaven or hell? Who was the first rebel according to the fairytale? Please give me one real life example where a vassal in open rebellion is called to attend a King without consequence.
LoL. Angels are incapable of changing their minds but satan changed his from good to evil. See how stupid your story gets? Angels can't change their minds but they are learning from human history, how do you learn if you can't change your mind? Like how much more contradictory can you get? God does not recognize satan as a vassal yet he summons him as a vassal? What stupidity do you keep spilling out? Again explain this other stupidity in the fairytale: 1 Kings 22 19 And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the Lord: I saw the Lord sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left. 20 And the Lord said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner. 21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the Lord, and said, I will persuade him. 22 And the Lord said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so. 23 Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee. So did god also summon this lying spirit? How did a lying spirit come to be in the midst of the host of heaven? God summoned him but happened to forget that he summoned a lying spirit? Your fairytale is just a bunch of stupid gibberish. Yes I conjectured the sweet talk, still doesn't take anything away from the fact that the fairytale records god acquiescing to satan's words.
You are so disingenuous it has become ridiculous. Show me in Job where it says god summoned satan. You bring some scriptures which do not refer to satan, make it mean that god summons satan and you call me the liar. You are the liar, lying to defend a fake fairytale. How does it even make sense to you that god summons the accuser of the brethren to heaven day and night just so he could keep accusing the brethren and getting permission to do evil stuff to them? And even if he is summoned, does a summons not mean an implicit permission? Keep quibbling with simple things, shows how willfully disingenuous you are.
You showed nothing but an inability to understand English or maybe to deliberately be obtuse and a great aptitude for twisting stories to fit your illogical narratives. You are also willing to lie for your fairytale defence, shows just how depraved you've become. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by LordReed(m): 4:28pm On Oct 30, 2018 |
Ihedinobi3: If you provide testable proof I will agree with your universal flood story. |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by Ihedinobi3: 5:11pm On Oct 30, 2018 |
LordReed:You have enough already. 1 Like |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by LordReed(m): 5:24pm On Oct 30, 2018 |
Ihedinobi3: LoL! I thought you said I didn't give you a chance? Gosh you are so disingenuous. |
Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by LordReed(m): 5:37pm On Oct 30, 2018 |
theoriginalgood: The universe shows no natural inclinations to moral judgements called good or bad, it just is. Men like you and I are the ones calling things good and bad. So tell me now that modern medicine is getting to the point where we can stop & possibly reverse aging and potentially end death, what happens to this your narrative? 1 Like |
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