hisgrace090:
Bedc eedc both are scarm and are not worthy to handle any power distribution.

This is partly a result of when you sell such critical publics asset to yourself and your 'friends and cronies' who have no idea of how the electricity industry works.

He don red

nanizle:


This is partly a result of when you sell such critical publics asset to yourself and your 'friends and cronies' who have no idea of how the electricity industry works.

Truth, many rejected sir emeka offor then but madam goodluck Jonathan insisted that he must have it instead of bath nnaji.

nanizle:


Actually.... Discos are the weakest link in the electricity industry. Their performance is appalling and grossly inadequate.

Available generation capacity is about 7000MW but discos can/will only distribute about 3500MW due to their inadequacies and inefficiencies.

So there's a large generation capacity under-utilisation due to discos.

How bro? I do not know where you got that 7000MW from but know that actual energy generated differs from generating capacity. Since energy cannot be stored, if the DISCOs distribute far below what they got from the grid as you have suggested, it is their own loss because they have to pay for a service they are not selling. Most of the DISCOs have expressed their willingness to exit the system time and time again, should government be ready to refund a part of their investments in the sector. The government is still the biggest bottleneck of the Power sector. But then again, they seem helpless. The only policies that can palcate the rot in the Energy sector, if enacted, will seem anti-people.

BoneBlogger:
Earlier today, civil society, communities and electricity consumers gathered in their numbers to protest in Benin city, Edo state against the purported plan to renew the operational license of Benin Electricity Distribution Company (BEDC).

The Public Relations Officer of the Edo State Civil Society Organizations (EDOSCO), Osaze Edigin said the peaceful demonstration which will last for three days is to draw the BPE attention to the “incompetence of the distribution company.”

Osaze said the Performance Agreement the company entered with the Federal Government elapses on the 31st of October, 2018 and not the proposed extension of December, 2019 by the BPP.

He further disclosed that “BEDC operational Licence must not be extended or renewed. BPP and NERC cannot be compromised”.

The protesters said, "Today, we are in collaboration with other interest groups and critical stakeholders, reaffirming our stand that the operators of the BEDC do not deserve an extension or renewal of operational licence for a day later than the 31st of October, 2018".

"We vehemently object to it and sue the BPP and NERC to pursue the happiness of the people whom they swore to serve".

"The BPP and NERC should not display the posture that suggests that they have been compromised by the DISCOs as Nigerians in Edo, Delta, Ondo and Ekiti states are seriously expectant of the non extension and renewal of the licence of Vigeo Holdings Limited, the operators of the Benin Distribution Company (BEDC)".

See more; https://www.nationalhelm.co/2018/10/protest-against-benin-electricity-distribution-company-bedc-in-edo.html

You mean native doctors who take delight in darkness also want to partake in lights ?

naija Una dey try o

If dem do this against boko haram dem for don die finish

ah bedc must go o..like in my mind they re gone already. .For years now we have been having just 6hours light everyday that's if it comes at all..but at the end of the month they will bring bill and you wonder how you consume that much..funke or what ever her name is, has got to go..We re tired..

Hoodbilonia:
3hrs in
6hrs out
edo is cursed

You could make your point without the last sentence.

As per the native doctors, those guys re just members of civil society. .and not real native doctors..They were there just to make a statement

Seems this country is the only place in the world with little or no electricity access. Government in advanced countries are speaking of technology but here is about backward discussions. Smh

EnglishUsa:
Nigeria native doctors will soon go on strike, why can't them native doctors use the powers they have and invent one transformer. Since they have the powers to do something that can shock like high tension, let them also use that power to do transformer

nanizle:


Actually.... Discos are the weakest link in the electricity industry. Their performance is appalling and grossly inadequate.

Available generation capacity is about 7000MW but discos can/will only distribute about 3500MW due to their inadequacies and inefficiencies.

So there's a large generation capacity under-utilisation due to discos.

You would have been right except you missed the wheeling capacity of TCN which is roughly 5GW(even that is a doubt now as some section of the grid are not adequately maintained)

Furthermore, generating capacity is far different from generated energy due to constraints. The major constraint is usually gas which keeps quite a number of our gas turbines idle.
By the way, if the gencos generates and tcn wheels out, the discos have to distribute or the system collapse(EE guys can confirm this). Plus they pay for the idle capacity too.

Preator:

You would have been right except you missed the wheeling capacity of TCN which is roughly 5GW(even that is a doubt now as some section of the grid are not adequately maintained)

TCN is actually trying. They are working on their transmission capacity. I think it should be around 5000 - 6000MW.

Discos haven't done anything significant to increase their distribution capacity. Nothing at all. Nothing!

nanizle:



TCN is actually trying. They are working on their transmission capacity. I think it should be around 5000 - 6000MW.

Discos haven't done anything significant to increase their distribution capacity. Nothing at all. Nothing!

I would have agreed but I am an insider. The discos are quite poor and have no clue about what they are running.
A disco gets a bill of 8billion monthly from NBET(excluding interest charges) but only collects roughly 4.2billion from customers.
They pay NBET just 2.5billion and keep the rest. Out of 1.5, they have a labour and mtce fee of roughly 1billion. That leaves just 500m for expanding the network. Its not enough.

Leonbonapart:
Young boys into native doctoring. Mtcheeeew!!

hmm j saw that too.. Joblessness is alarming.. Yahoo wearing red cloth..

Leonbonapart:
Young boys into native doctoring. Mtcheeeew!!

hmm
you saw that too.. Joblessness is alarming.. Yahoo wearing red cloth..may be the oba paying all native doc. So they joined the trend

Hmm.

MOST DISCOs don't get billed up to N4bn monthly. You got it wrong there.

Preator:


I would have agreed but I am an insider. The discos are quite poor and have no clue about what they are running.
A disco gets a bill of 8billion monthly from NBET(excluding interest charges) but only collects roughly 4.2billion from customers.
They pay NBET just 2.5billion and keep the rest. Out of 1.5, they have a labour and mtce fee of roughly 1billion. That leaves just 500m for expanding the network. Its not enough.

Nevee:

How bro? I do not know where you got that 7000MW from but know that actual energy generated differs from generating capacity. Since energy cannot be stored, if the DISCOs distribute far below what they got from the grid as you have suggested, it is their own loss because they have to pay for a service they are not selling. Most of the DISCOs have expressed their willingness to exit the system time and time again, should government be ready to refund a part of their investments in the sector. The government is still the biggest bottleneck of the Power sector. But then again, they seem helpless. The only policies that can palcate the rot in the Energy sector, if enacted, will seem anti-people.

Let me give you an example.

TCN says 'Disco A' should take 700MW and distribute/sell to customers.

'Disco A' says no and takes only 300MW (load rejection), intentionally leaving many other customers without power.

One common ridiculous and unacceptable reason for this load rejection is 'they can't collect the bill for 700MW' from customers. Same discos that intentionally won't give customers prepaid meters.

Discos are not ready to do real electricity business in Nigeria. They are just profiting from a broken system via estimated billing with apparently no intention to improve their network and capacity.

Naijaguy12345:
Real juju men / babalawo don't need electricity, they live in a secluded area and their customers will find them .

Those protesting are they type that use indomie, eggs and chicken leg for sacrifice.

Hahaha, Lol at living in a secluded area, Una go kill person with laugh for Nairaland.com

Preator:


I would have agreed but I am an insider. The discos are quite poor and have no clue about what they are running.
A disco gets a bill of 8billion monthly from NBET(excluding interest charges) but only collects roughly 4.2billion from customers.
They pay NBET just 2.5billion and keep the rest. Out of 1.5, they have a labour and mtce fee of roughly 1billion. That leaves just 500m for expanding the network. Its not enough.

So we can all agree that no one should expect any significant improvement in power supply in Nigeria as long as we have same set of discos.

You are right. Discos are clueless about the business and I'm guessing you already know why.

Like really? Who buys a disco without knowing what's on ground and what's required to make it run?

nanizle:


Actually.... Discos are the weakest link in the electricity industry. Their performance is appalling and grossly inadequate.

Available generation capacity is about 7000MW but discos can/will only distribute about 3500MW due to their inadequacies and inefficiencies.

So there's a large generation capacity under-utilisation due to discos.

lol at 7000mw. What do you think is the maximum capacity of TCN? There is no available 7000mw anywhere Oga

Nigeria is hell

God go punish all the people responsible for the failure of
Electricity
Roads
water in Nigeria

obaataaokpaewu:
lol at 7000mw. What do you think is the maximum capacity of TCN? There is no available 7000mw anywhere Oga

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/240258-nigerias-current-electricity-generating-capacity-6803-mw-fashola.html

Remember that Azura came on stream this year with 460MW installed and available.

Preator:

You would have been right except you missed the wheeling capacity of TCN which is roughly 5GW(even that is a doubt now as some section of the grid are not adequately maintained)

Furthermore, generating capacity is far different from generated energy due to constraints. The major constraint is usually gas which keeps quite a number of our gas turbines idle.
By the way, if the gencos generates and tcn wheels out, the discos have to distribute or the system collapse(EE guys can confirm this). Plus they pay for the idle capacity too.

The discos refuse to distribute energy even when available to reduce load, therefore forcing generation to shut down turbines.... The way they load shed these days is majorly for this purpose. Since they couldn't improve thier ATC & C losses.. Thats the only way to go... Nigeria can never have light with this operating system

singwa:
MOST DISCOs don't get billed up to N4bn monthly. You got it wrong there.

Well, I'll snap you one when I get to work tommorow. Its for 5.5bn

Erums:


The discos refuse to distribute energy even when available to reduce load, therefore forcing generation to shut down turbines.... The way they load shed these days is majorly for this purpose. Since they couldn't improve thier ATC & C losses.. Thats the only way to go... Nigeria can never have light with this operating system

Not in the next 10yrs, but fashola will still promise you 40gw if they are reelected

nanizle:


Let me give you an example.

TCN says 'Disco A' should take 700MW and distribute/sell to customers.

'Disco A' says no and takes only 300MW (load rejection), intentionally leaving many other customers without power.

One common ridiculous and unacceptable reason for this load rejection is 'they can't collect the bill for 700MW' from customers. Same discos that intentionally won't give customers prepaid meters.

Discos are not ready to do real electricity business in Nigeria. They are just profiting from a broken system via estimated billing with apparently no intention to improve their network and capacity.

Meters aren't the problem cos bypassing is paramount with nigerians.... The load rejection is the main thing, cos if u give meter and reject load, u lose both ways....

baliyubla:
Their protest should be against the minister of Darkness Fashola, as BEDC and other distribution companies in Nigeria only distribute what has been generated and transmitted to them. What sector is even working under this government of the dullard?

The truth be told, BEDC are not performing well at all. I had seen complains from on this forum about them. I wonder how come other distribution companies are doing better in terms of delivery.

[quote author=baliyubla post=72512133]Their protest should be against the minister of Darkness Fashola, as BEDC and other distribution companies in Nigeria only distribute what has been generated and transmitted to them. What sector is even working under this government of the dullard?

The major problem ain't generation of power right now but distribution. DISCO's are to procure the energy required and distribute/sell to the final consumers but get as low as they can ration and throw estimated bill around to citizens who don't know they have a right for what they consume and pay for

Preator:

Not in the next 10yrs, but fashola will still promise you 40gw if they are reelected

Only the ignorant believes that... Discos have even gone as far as placing isolators on 33kv feeders.... They now load shed 33kv...and if that's load shredded.. Whats the fate of the majority on 11kv feeders... Such a pity