ontarioissauga:

Your maid, add your pet too

Smh

Must you have to respond ? Can’t you just waka pass

Some people are just good at a cyber bullying and I don’t think we need that here .

This is a thread that most of us will eventually become friends cos we go definitely meet for Canny by God’s Grace.

You fit be guru for this matter but Biko tender justice with mercy on some of us .

Yakay:


I did not see it from her own evaluation, she posted that after i responded... What i typed is what I have seen on several people's evaluation in my group,,,ICAN is not accepted, unless it is ATS...period

Ok. I get

[quote author=efi97 post=72544900]CANADIAN EQUIVALENCY SUMMARY
Bachelor's degree (four years)

You have only one degree to claim here, did you start with ATS? if you did you can assess only that and get a positive evaluation. If not, look for an alternative programme to enroll in to help boost your score.

debbydee:


My Brother in law is in canada so i added the 15 points. that was what made up the 429

What score did you simulate for your ielts was it LRWS 8777.

Thanks bronze25

bronze25:
Congratulations

Thanks Tojued

Tojued:
Congrats at the research junkie joo2018, sthill5 and all ITA recipients. Wish you all an uneventful and speedy journey to COPR.

Claire40 congrats on our PPR

Luce congrats and thanks for opening the PPR floodgates for the week.

efi97:
Hello family.
I am very confused now and would need help please on ECA for ICAN. I received my ECA report in January and have been living with the impression that this would be seen as an additional certification. But I have been getting differing opinions on this with many saying that this is not tenable for ECA purpose. Please I need your thoughts on this. I have also copied my ECA report (edited) to enable the gurus in the house assess. I have attached an edited version of the ECA. The summary section only shows BSc even though the analysis section shows ICAN as 2 years.

it is not 2 or more degree.
IT HAS BEEN SAID OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
ICAN IS SEEN AS A PROFESSIONAL STUDY NOT EQUIVALENT TO AN EDUCATIONAL DEGREE IN CANADA.

only ATS is evaluated as diploma. If you have ATS you can evaluate that but if ur ATS Certificate has ABWA make sure ICAN writes a note with your transcript. that its the same ICAN.

Jasmine17:

This is two or more degrees o

VERY VERY WRONG
NOT 2 OR MORE MA.

efi97:
Hello family.
I am very confused now and would need help please on ECA for ICAN. I received my ECA report in January and have been living with the impression that this would be seen as an additional certification. But I have been getting differing opinions on this with many saying that this is not tenable for ECA purpose. Please I need your thoughts on this. I have also copied my ECA report (edited) to enable the gurus in the house assess. I have attached an edited version of the ECA. The summary section only shows BSc even though the analysis section shows ICAN as 2 years.

it is not 2 or more degree.
IT HAS BEEN SAID OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
ICAN IS SEEN AS A PROFESSIONAL STUDY NOT EQUIVALENT TO AN EDUCATIONAL DEGREE IN CANADA.

only ATS is evaluated as diploma. If you have ATS you can evaluate that but if ur ATS Certificate has ABWA make sure ICAN writes a note with your transcript. that its the same ICAN.

Oakville19:


What score did you simulate for your ielts was it LRWS 8777.

Yes

Hi,

I can't resist commenting on your post . I do hope you can make the right decision based on what I am writing now. My close relative got ITA and submitted all documents in December 2017. He got in at 452 or so. This included additional 15 points from my brother who is a canadian citizen. After a long wait of almost 9 months, the application was rejected. He used 2 or more certificate option based on his ICAN verification and BSC degree. In the rejection letter , the immigration officer explained the ICAN certificate was not tenable. This is the exact extract from the rejection letter : '' Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) invited you to apply for permanent resident status based on the qualifications you claimed in your Express Entry profile. In your Express Entry profile you indicated that you obtained a Certificate of Membership from The Institute of Chartered Accountants of Nigeria. According to your Educational Credential Assessment (ECA), completed by World Education Services (WES), this credential is not comparable to a completed Canadian education credential. Therefore, this credential does not qualify under the Federal Skilled Worker (FSW) program.
This change in your qualifications resulted in a loss of points that brought your rank below the lowest ranking person who was invited to apply in your round of invitation, under the Express Entry Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS). I do note that your ECA lists your Bachelor of Science degree from *********University, which is comparable to a completed Canadian education credential, and for which you obtained the allotted number of CRS points. But unfortunately, you still failed to obtain the minimum CRS score required, as your credential from The Institute of Chartered Accountants of Nigeria is unable to be used under the FSW program.
As I have found that you no longer possess the qualification on the basis of which you were ranked under an instruction given under paragraph 10.3(1)(h), you no longer meet the requirements of Section 11.2 of Act.
Following an examination of your application, I am not satisfied that you meet the requirements of the Act and Regulations for the reasons explained above. I am therefore refusing your application.
You will receive a refund of the Right of Permanent Residence Fee that you have paid''.

Naturally , he was devastated .However , he wrote an appeal letter where he compared his ICAN certificate to similar global certificate . This is an extract from his appeal letter :

Evidence 1:
According to World Educational Services Canada (WES) evaluation of my ICAN certificate, it was
determined that my ICAN certificate is equivalent to a 2‐year Canadian program, but it was not stated
if it was equivalent to an undergraduate or a graduate program. I am writing to let you know that ICAN
certification is a graduate level program which requires an undergraduate degree as a prerequisite.
This is similar to the Chartered Professional Accountant Canada Professional Education Program CPA
PEP) which is a 2‐year graduate‐level academic program which also requires an undergraduate degree
as a prerequisite (https://www.cpacanada.ca/en/become‐a‐cpa/pathways‐to‐becoming‐a‐cpa).
Hence, based on this information, I believe ICAN certification is equivalent to the Chartered
Professional Accountant Canada (CPA) certification.

Evidence 2:
ICAN and CPA belong to the International Federation of Accountant (http://www.ifac.org/about‐
ifac/membership/member‐organizations‐and‐country‐profiles). This makes ICAN a recognised
professional accounting program worldwide, and an equivalent certification to CPA.
In conclusion, I believe my undergraduate degree and ICAN certification qualify me for “Two or More
Certificates, Diplomas or Degree of which one must be for a program of three years”.

His appeal letter was ACCEPTED and he was asked to do a new medical. HE RECEIVED PPR TODAY !!!!

i wouldn't know if this experience will trigger a change in CIC view/policy concerning ICAN certificate . Action of one courageous person can change the world. Its not always good to believe anything just because someone said so. If he hasn't written his appeal, he will still be waiting for ATS verification as widely believed and advised by most applicants .

I wish you the best in your application.

efi97:
Hello family.
I am very confused now and would need help please on ECA for ICAN. I received my ECA report in January and have been living with the impression that this would be seen as an additional certification. But I have been getting differing opinions on this with many saying that this is not tenable for ECA purpose. Please I need your thoughts on this. I have also copied my ECA report (edited) to enable the gurus in the house assess. I have attached an edited version of the ECA. The summary section only shows BSc even though the analysis section shows ICAN as 2 years.

AswearoGod only Newmum0615 and co could have done this.

Onebase79:
As seen on Instagram. I'm suspecting newmum0615

I

Livy2018:
I have a contact in Unilorin, who processed my transcripts. You may send a pm.

Please help me with the contact, i have sent you a pm. Anyone on this forum who has gotten the contact should please share with me abeg. Thanks

Yakay:


You can try PGD at NACETEM(affiliated to OAU) a new session starts in Novenber, you should be done latest June/July 2019.

Sorry I'm asking, but have you confirmed that it's assessable by WES?

I spoke with the Enugu centre and they told me new session commences January, to run for 1 year.

debbydee:


good day madam. Please i also graduated from Lagos Study center. How soon will the transcript be sent. Also i sent a message please respond.

I have responded to your mail sir/ma, if I remember correctly, I think it took about 3/4 months or so.
congratulations @fiona111. go and flourish

A big hearty CONGRATULATIONS to d PPR nd ITA clinchers +IELTS acers...May God ease our affairs.
Indeed,this journey no be moinmoin.Comittment and perseverance is a must.
Started planning for this journey since February 2016.Was a complete novice about EE FSW then but hubby's friend came around and told us about it with his sugar coated tongue.All i kept hearing was 'just go and write ielts nd evaluate ur result'.Na so ur sister rush go do ielts o...(didnt even know theres a golden band score)...

After ielts,na so mentor go MIA ..So,i started researching nd stumbled on Canadavisa forum.
Also been following this thread like no mans business.
Got to know dat i was still in d cocoon.
For me to even smell ITA,3 years working experience and maxing out IELTS or at least an 8777 score is key.And na only 1year NYSC experience i get.
Dont think about hubby evaluating results nd sitting for ielts,all join,e no reach.

Alhamdullilah,got a good job january 2,2017 which will give me my 3years experience next year.
I'll b sitting for ielts by february 2019.WES still very valid...Wish me luck.
Sorry for d epistle...just reminiscing.
Seniors,God bless you for always coming through.

With our eye on the price and God by our side,it shall end in praise.

I have some savings in my Cooperative Account, can I get a letter from the cooperative office and use for POF? Also, can I use payslips to back this up as the deductions were done from my salary?

The cooperative bye-law does not permit closing the account except if you are no longer in that employment, but I am still working there.

Has anyone successfully used cooperative savings as POF here?

kindly share what to do,to get that done with WAEC.

flyboi1:


where have you been!

" **Final Secondary Examination Results (e.g. West African Senior School Certificate) must be submitted directly to WES by the appropriate examining body for evaluation along with all higher education documents. No evaluation will be completed without the final secondary examination results.
**If you had direct entry into the second year of study, you must also provide documentation for prior study, e.g. IJMB exam certificate, A-level results, National Certificate of Education, National Diploma or Higher National Diploma.
**WES has no affiliation with companies, persons, or agencies in Nigeria. We are not responsible for claims made by third parties, and we urge applicants to deal directly with WES regarding documentation or the evaluation process."

hernyhorla:


Smh

Must you have to respond ? Can’t you just waka pass

Some people are just good at a cyber bullying and I don’t think we need that here .

This is a thread that most of us will eventually become friends cos we go definitely meet for Canny by God’s Grace.

You fit be guru for this matter but Biko tender justice with mercy on some of us .

He quoted me, I saw it as a joke and joked along. But you the universe defender take it seriously.

Congrat Fiona....Welcome to Canada

orenishii:


Congratulations!!!

I must say this is one of the best post I have read on NL. One must know that whatever may have been the norm, you can always change it. I would have done the same thing your brother did however, mine would have been directed to the evaluation body. If WES says they can evaluate a professional certification like CPA, ACCA etc. Why would ICAN be different?

So whoever is evaluating ICAN must be ready to school the evaluators as I have seen people do that in other threads and they were successfully. Never be too afraid to get what you want.

Wish we all smooth sailing!!






[Qquote author=ebony9ja post=72546501]Hi,

I can't resist commenting on your post . I do hope you can make the right decision based on what I am writing now. My close relative got ITA and submitted all documents in December 2017. He got in at 452 or so. This included additional 15 points from my brother who is a canadian citizen. After a long wait of almost 9 months, the application was rejected. He used 2 or more certificate option based on his ICAN verification and BSC degree. In the rejection letter , the immigration officer explained the ICAN certificate was not tenable. This is the exact extract from the rejection letter : '' Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) invited you to apply for permanent resident status based on the qualifications you claimed in your Express Entry profile. In your Express Entry profile you indicated that you obtained a Certificate of Membership from The Institute of Chartered Accountants of Nigeria. According to your Educational Credential Assessment (ECA), completed by World Education Services (WES), this credential is not comparable to a completed Canadian education credential. Therefore, this credential does not qualify under the Federal Skilled Worker (FSW) program.
This change in your qualifications resulted in a loss of points that brought your rank below the lowest ranking person who was invited to apply in your round of invitation, under the Express Entry Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS). I do note that your ECA lists your Bachelor of Science degree from *********University, which is comparable to a completed Canadian education credential, and for which you obtained the allotted number of CRS points. But unfortunately, you still failed to obtain the minimum CRS score required, as your credential from The Institute of Chartered Accountants of Nigeria is unable to be used under the FSW program.
As I have found that you no longer possess the qualification on the basis of which you were ranked under an instruction given under paragraph 10.3(1)(h), you no longer meet the requirements of Section 11.2 of Act.
Following an examination of your application, I am not satisfied that you meet the requirements of the Act and Regulations for the reasons explained above. I am therefore refusing your application.
You will receive a refund of the Right of Permanent Residence Fee that you have paid''.

Naturally , he was devastated .However , he wrote an appeal letter where he compared his ICAN certificate to similar global certificate . This is an extract from his appeal letter :

Evidence 1:
According to World Educational Services Canada (WES) evaluation of my ICAN certificate, it was
determined that my ICAN certificate is equivalent to a 2‐year Canadian program, but it was not stated
if it was equivalent to an undergraduate or a graduate program. I am writing to let you know that ICAN
certification is a graduate level program which requires an undergraduate degree as a prerequisite.
This is similar to the Chartered Professional Accountant Canada Professional Education Program CPA
PEP) which is a 2‐year graduate‐level academic program which also requires an undergraduate degree
as a prerequisite (https://www.cpacanada.ca/en/become‐a‐cpa/pathways‐to‐becoming‐a‐cpa).
Hence, based on this information, I believe ICAN certification is equivalent to the Chartered
Professional Accountant Canada (CPA) certification.

Evidence 2:
ICAN and CPA belong to the International Federation of Accountant (http://www.ifac.org/about‐
ifac/membership/member‐organizations‐and‐country‐profiles). This makes ICAN a recognised
professional accounting program worldwide, and an equivalent certification to CPA.
In conclusion, I believe my undergraduate degree and ICAN certification qualify me for “Two or More
Certificates, Diplomas or Degree of which one must be for a program of three years”.

His appeal letter was ACCEPTED and he was asked to do a new medical. HE RECEIVED PPR TODAY !!!!

i wouldn't know if this experience will trigger a change in CIC view/policy concerning ICAN certificate . Action of one courageous person can change the world. Its not always good to believe anything just because someone said so. If he hasn't written his appeal, he will still be waiting for ATS verification as widely believed and advised by most applicants .

I wish you the best in your application.

[/quote]

efi97:
CANADIAN EQUIVALENCY SUMMARY
Bachelor's degree (four years)


CREDENTIAL ANALYSIS
1. Name on Credential:
Credential Authentication: Documents were verified by the institution
Country: Nigeria
Credential: Bachelor of Science
Year: 2009
Awarded By:
Status: Recognized Institution
Major/Specialization: Accounting
Canadian Equivalency: Bachelor's degree (four years)

2. Name on Credential:
Credential Authentication: Documents were verified by the institution
Country: Nigeria
Credential: Certificate of Membership of the Institute of Chartered Accountants
Year: 2015
Awarded By: Institute of Chartered Accountants of Nigeria
Status: Recognized Institution
Major/Specialization: Accounting
Canadian Equivalency: Two years of professional study in accounting

Follow Ebony9ja privately, if the Pal's situation, explanation and evidence convince you, toe that line of appealing after rejection.

What is your score on 2 or more? Get back to the house for possible page 1 modifications and updates.

Pradit:
Hello good day house please I missed my speaking
IELTS today due to the violence in abuja please what can I do ? In a fix right now

Can be rescheduled, visit the office at maitama and state your case / plead.
I missed mine in February by 2 days just because I didn’t read my mail.
Went to the office and explained. Was lucky to be tested same day . Don’t fret, Good luck!!!

I’m ecstatic!!! I got my writing upgraded from 6.5 to 7.5 with mod in 2weeks. I wrote September 29th exam. God is good! Time to enter the pool�

Been a while I have seen you here, wanted to find out about your Cyprus ppc stuff and how far you have gone with your application.

Jolao:
Hi @babyoj

Please house, is it compulsory for pof to be complete before entering the pool?

Also, can I do medicals before entering the pool?

Thank you so much.

mankind5050:
*For people who keep asking the steps for PR, Kindly read this*

What is a step by step procedure for Canada express entry?

Step 1: Take IELTS and attain CLB 9 (viz: band score of 8777 in LRWS)

CLB 9 gives candidates additional language points boost of 50–60 points. If you are able to reach the score of 440+ without CLB 9, that is fine too.

Cost - Approx 200 CAD every time you take IELTS.

Step 2: Get your ECA done (6–8 weeks)

ECA is Education Credential Assessment. It is done by multiple organisations (WES one of them) and provides you the Canadian equivalent degree assessment of your native country education.

Cost - Approx 285 CAD. (200 CAD Fee + 85 CAD International Result Delivery)

Step 3: Create EE profile on CIC website with your attained IELTS score and ECA

Making a profile enters you in the pool of candidates waiting for the ITA (Invitation to Apply). Make sure all the information mentioned in the profile is accurate as you will be asked to provide proof of all that information once you are selected.

Cost - 0

Step 4: Wait for the draw to reach your score and receive ITA afterwards

The ROI (Rounds of Invidation) happens every 3–4 weeks. The Canadian govt declares the min cut off score of the EE profile and all the candidates having that score or score more than it will get ITA. The score varies and is tweaked to meet the usual 2800–3000 applicants quota per ROI.

Cost - 0

Step 5: Post ITA, you get 2 months to submit your documents

After candidates receive ITA, they are suppose to provide documents and proofs of all the information mentioned in their profile along with few others. The documents/information needed from the candidates are:

Scan of Travel Document (Passport) of all applicants
Digital Photograph of all applicants
Proof of Employment of primary applicant
Proof of Funds of primary applicant
Proof of Medical of all applicants
Proof of Education & IELTS of all applicants
Police Clearance Certificate (From all countries where you have resided for 6 months or more) of all applicants
Cost varies as Medical cost, PCC fees, Notarization fees etc varies on location. Ideally, all expenses should be covered within 300–350 CAD per applicant.

Step 6: Submit documents, pay Immigration Fee and wait for the PPR (PassPort Request - For stamping)

After submitting the documents and paying the Immigration fees, the Canadian Immigration officers verifies the documents and information provided. This generally takes 2–4 months depending on the application type, countries a person has resided in and most importantly, the immigration visa office where the application has been sent for processing and how much application backlog is there.

New Delhi visa office is infamous for taking usually 4 months to process and verify the submitted documents, sometimes even more!

Cost - 1050 CAD x No. of Applicants in the application

Step 7: PPR received. Submit Passport and get Canada CoPR (Confirmation of PR)

Once the documents are verified, candidates are intimated about the result of their application via mail. On successful processing, candidates are required to submit the passports of all the applicants for the Visa Stamping and CoPR. Passport is being sent by VFS Global and would cost around30 CAD per passport. The stamped passport are returned to the designated address within 2 weeks along with 2 copies of CoPR.

Cost - Approx 30 CAD x No. of Applicants

Step 8: Reach Canada on CoPR and apply for PR card

Applicants are suppose to travel to Canada within the tenure mentioned on the passport. The tenure is generally till the time passport is valid or till medical proof is valid, whichever is earlier. In any case, visa will not be for more than 1 year.

Applicants are suppose to plan their travel, temporary or permanent migration, to Canada within the Visa timelines and submit one copy of CoPR at the time of landing. The other copy is stamped and returned.

Submitting CoPR means that Candidates have successfully landed in Canada and this in turn initiates the PR card application for each applicant.

Cost - Travel Cost of each applicant

Step 9: Receive PR card (2–3 months)

Official PR Card processing time is 62–65 days and the PR card will be couriered to the address given by the applicants at the time of their landing. The address has to be a Canadian address.

PR Card will be delivered to the address within 50–80 days. In case you have performed soft landing (temporary migration) just to fulfill the landing formalities before the Visa expires, you can request any friend coming to your native country to bring along your PR card.

PR cards are not couriered outside Canada and have to be delivered in person in such scenarios.

Step 10: You are Canadian PR. Enjoy!

Once you have your PR card, you are officially a Canadian PR. Have fun!

PR card is provided with validity of 5 years. A person is suppose to live in Canada for 730 days in consecutive 5 years to continue his/her PR card for next 5 years after the expiry.

If a person has stayed in Canada for more than 1095 days in consecutive 5 years, he/she is eligible to apply for Canadian citizenship.

Some Acronyms Frequently Used in this post & during Visa Processing:

CLB - Canadian Language Benchmark
ECA - Education Credential Assessment
EE - Express Entry
ROI - Round of Invitations
ITA - Invitation to Apply
CoPR - Confirmation of Permanent Residency
PPR - Passport Request
PR - Permanent Resident (Residency)

PS: Not taking any credit for this, someone else wrote this on Quora, thought this would help. All the best!

Diorla7701:
I’m ecstatic!!! I got my writing upgraded from 6.5 to 7.5 with mod in 2weeks. I wrote September 29th exam. God is good! Time to enter the pool�

Congrats

E don show. Thanks so much

ontarioissauga:


He quoted me, I saw it as a joke and joked along. But you the universe defender take it seriously.

oh sorry if it was a joke, na the way i see am i respond

Bullying again ...

its an observation and i am not here for fight, my darling. lets thread with caution and peace as we move along on this immigration journey. Success all the way.

ONE LOVE

what a courageous guy!!!

never say never

Congratulations.

ebony9ja:
Hi,

I can't resist commenting on your post . I do hope you can make the right decision based on what I am writing now. My close relative got ITA and submitted all documents in December 2017. He got in at 452 or so. This included additional 15 points from my brother who is a canadian citizen. After a long wait of almost 9 months, the application was rejected. He used 2 or more certificate option based on his ICAN verification and BSC degree. In the rejection letter , the immigration officer explained the ICAN certificate was not tenable. This is the exact extract from the rejection letter : '' Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) invited you to apply for permanent resident status based on the qualifications you claimed in your Express Entry profile. In your Express Entry profile you indicated that you obtained a Certificate of Membership from The Institute of Chartered Accountants of Nigeria. According to your Educational Credential Assessment (ECA), completed by World Education Services (WES), this credential is not comparable to a completed Canadian education credential. Therefore, this credential does not qualify under the Federal Skilled Worker (FSW) program.
This change in your qualifications resulted in a loss of points that brought your rank below the lowest ranking person who was invited to apply in your round of invitation, under the Express Entry Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS). I do note that your ECA lists your Bachelor of Science degree from *********University, which is comparable to a completed Canadian education credential, and for which you obtained the allotted number of CRS points. But unfortunately, you still failed to obtain the minimum CRS score required, as your credential from The Institute of Chartered Accountants of Nigeria is unable to be used under the FSW program.
As I have found that you no longer possess the qualification on the basis of which you were ranked under an instruction given under paragraph 10.3(1)(h), you no longer meet the requirements of Section 11.2 of Act.
Following an examination of your application, I am not satisfied that you meet the requirements of the Act and Regulations for the reasons explained above. I am therefore refusing your application.
You will receive a refund of the Right of Permanent Residence Fee that you have paid''.

Naturally , he was devastated .However , he wrote an appeal letter where he compared his ICAN certificate to similar global certificate . This is an extract from his appeal letter :

Evidence 1:
According to World Educational Services Canada (WES) evaluation of my ICAN certificate, it was
determined that my ICAN certificate is equivalent to a 2‐year Canadian program, but it was not stated
if it was equivalent to an undergraduate or a graduate program. I am writing to let you know that ICAN
certification is a graduate level program which requires an undergraduate degree as a prerequisite.
This is similar to the Chartered Professional Accountant Canada Professional Education Program CPA
PEP) which is a 2‐year graduate‐level academic program which also requires an undergraduate degree
as a prerequisite (https://www.cpacanada.ca/en/become‐a‐cpa/pathways‐to‐becoming‐a‐cpa).
Hence, based on this information, I believe ICAN certification is equivalent to the Chartered
Professional Accountant Canada (CPA) certification.

Evidence 2:
ICAN and CPA belong to the International Federation of Accountant (http://www.ifac.org/about‐
ifac/membership/member‐organizations‐and‐country‐profiles). This makes ICAN a recognised
professional accounting program worldwide, and an equivalent certification to CPA.
In conclusion, I believe my undergraduate degree and ICAN certification qualify me for “Two or More
Certificates, Diplomas or Degree of which one must be for a program of three years”.

His appeal letter was ACCEPTED and he was asked to do a new medical. HE RECEIVED PPR TODAY !!!!

i wouldn't know if this experience will trigger a change in CIC view/policy concerning ICAN certificate . Action of one courageous person can change the world. Its not always good to believe anything just because someone said so. If he hasn't written his appeal, he will still be waiting for ATS verification as widely believed and advised by most applicants .

I wish you the best in your application.