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Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by Ishilove: 3:43am On Nov 02, 2018
claseek:
I swear.. And that's what makes it so crazy. Humans are the worst jeez
Hurray for the 'higher animals'
Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by Ishilove: 3:44am On Nov 02, 2018
RB007:
shocked

The woman will forever have that hate in her.

A whole family wiped out shocked

She's strong though.
Very strong. Even now, look into her eyes and see the trauma still there. It's like visiting the old places has reopened the wounds sad

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Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by deebrain(m): 3:48am On Nov 02, 2018
Africa.

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Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by CoolAmbience(m): 4:13am On Nov 02, 2018
Mintayo:

Its unimaginable what the man must have seen, the killings, and all that. Its enough to make someone go mad. After watching hotel Rwanda and sometimes in April some years ago, i found it difficult to sleep for a long time. I just pray stuffs like this do not happen in Nigeria.


That's why we must all continue to consciously work for peace and unity in our country. It is not just about prayers.

When I hear people talk recklessly and beat drums of war I feel greatly concerned.
Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by CoolAmbience(m): 4:14am On Nov 02, 2018
Osagyefo98:
Chaii

Even over. 200 thousand have been sent to their early graves by mohamurder buhari- Mr intagrity


See one of them....
Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by meforkene(m): 4:15am On Nov 02, 2018
Nairaland has been such a sad and divided place since a few to 2015. So tribalistic.

Moderators should be charged to make their own contribution in making Nigeria a better place by banning any tribalistic post.

Genocides have been ongoing in Nigeria since the 1960s and worse these days.

To imagine that the President of a nation made that 97% 5% comment, to a supposedly learned and exposed Fashola forgot governance and went tribal, to humans defending the shooting of Shiites, to Middle belt and Kaduna genocides.....etc.

There's actually no light at the end of this tunnel.

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Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by OnyeOGA(m): 5:47am On Nov 02, 2018
Mintayo:

Its unimaginable what the man must have seen, the killings, and all that. Its enough to make someone go mad. After watching hotel Rwanda and sometimes in April some years ago, i found it difficult to sleep for a long time. I just pray stuffs like this do not happen in Nigeria.
Stuff like this has already happened in Nigeria. The massacre of Odii people by Obasanjo. The massacre of Biafrans from 1967-1970. You guys should stop denying the fact that your nation massacred people just to force them to stay together with them. The world never speak of it because the hand of UN and Britain was in it.

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Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by EagleNest(m): 6:04am On Nov 02, 2018
DeckXavier:
oga closing down Nairaland won't solve anything, the streets will still be filled with people harboring hatred in their hearts... What is needed is justice and a sense of belonging for every tribe, we should be trying to stop tribalism, not the medium through which it happens... Stop the cause not the effects

For me I think Censoring or Closing it will help in mitigating the toxic hate speeches that goes on daily basis here.

It subtly and gradually pollutes the mind such that some tribes have started seeing others as their worst enemies.

Their should be sense of justice, equity, unity and fair distribution of things in the country to assuage such bad feelings of being alienated by fellow stakeholders.

Who knows man, na him dey killam!

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Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by EagleNest(m): 6:13am On Nov 02, 2018
bantudra:


nigeria own is different...igbos fought back....tutsi didnt had the chance to fight back....

biafran soldiers even tried to enter the south west....the yorubas are still baffled till today about that invasion....massackers happened in the north and not in the south west....what were they lookin for in the south west....??...they even sent away the army to show the igbos that they have nothing to do with it but they still tried to invade the south west....why...??

I thought the capital of Nigeria was located in SW and the head of government fighting Igbos were seated in SW. May be they wanted the head of the snake to be cut off first.

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Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by Vivuch: 7:17am On Nov 02, 2018
naptu2:


I listened to an interview that General Roméo Dallaire gave to the BBC World Service in the early 2000s.

General Dallaire was the head of the UN peacekeeping force in Rwanda before and during the genocide. He suspected that the killings were about to happen and he asked the UN for more troops (his force was pretty small) but they refused to send more troops to him. The Americans did not want to send more troops to another African country (that they did not really care about) after what happened to their troops in Somalia.


He also asked for permission to seize weapons that the Hutus were stockpiling, but his superiors in New York refused to give him permission.


Eventually he had to focus his small body of troops on parts of Kigali in which he knew that Tutsis were hiding. He eventually saved thousands of Tutsis.


Yet he had post traumatic stress disorder because of the events that he witnessed in Rwanda. He repeatedly tried to kill himself because of the psychological torture he experienced whenever he remembered what happened in Rwanda.
That was were Kofi Anan failed woefully as UN secretary general.
Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by Vivuch: 7:19am On Nov 02, 2018
OnyeOGA:
Stuff like this has already happened in Nigeria. The massacre of Odii people by Obasanjo. The massacre of Biafrans from 1967-1970. You guys should stop denying the fact that your nation massacred people just to force them to stay together with them. The world never speak of it because the hand of UN and Britain was in it.
There is a difference between Biafran war and Rwanda genocide. The Igbo's retaliated the war, while the tutus never did.

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Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by naptu2: 7:21am On Nov 02, 2018
Vivuch:
That was were Kofi Anan failed woefully as UN secretary general.

naptu2:


Kofi Annan wasn't the secretary general at the time.

The secretary general of the UN at the time was Boutros Boutros Ghalli of Egypt.

I remember that he requested for assistance but none of the Western Powers wanted to provide assistance because of what happened to the US in Somalia.

He blamed the US while the US blamed him. He had a spat with Madeline Albright who was the US ambassador to the UN.

A secretary general usually has two terms and Boutros Ghalli was serving Africa's first term, but Madeline Albright campaigned hard to ensure that he didn't get a second term.

Kofi Annan was thus elected to continue Africa's tenure.
Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by OnyeOGA(m): 8:21am On Nov 02, 2018
Vivuch:
There is a difference between Biafran war and Rwanda genocide. The Igbo's retaliated the war, while the tutus never did.
hey! It's called Nigeria war your information. Besides, we never invaded your land. You people started massacring my people since 1945 till date. Stop twisting fact. You people killed my people because of unity. What of Asaba genocide? What about the genocide orchastrated in the code name "python dance"? Let just talk about the present genocide since you have forgotten history. You people have been lying all this while but no more.

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Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by streetzdreamz(m): 9:28am On Nov 02, 2018
I think humans are the only animals that kills its kind just for sport,hotel rwanda was nerve wrecking,I almost threw up at the scene when vehicles were moving on cadavers,the entire road was filled with decaying humans,kept wondering why would humans do this to their kind? supremacy,land tussles,power tussles,resources, money,skin colour variations,and a whole lot of lame shitty excuses,and at the end none of us is billed to come out of life alive,so why the fuss?? why the killings?? where is Hitler, the Nazis and those power drunk leaders now? dead as a coffins nail just like their victims,time kills us all.........
Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by voluminous87: 10:00am On Nov 02, 2018
same shit is happening in cameroun now. africa is blessed and cursed
Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by Roh50(f): 10:25am On Nov 02, 2018
naptu2:


I listened to an interview that General Roméo Dallaire gave to the BBC World Service in the early 2000s.

General Dallaire was the head of the UN peacekeeping force in Rwanda before and during the genocide. He suspected that the killings were about to happen and he asked the UN for more troops (his force was pretty small) but they refused to send more troops to him. The Americans did not want to send more troops to another African country (that they did not really care about) after what happened to their troops in Somalia.


He also asked for permission to seize weapons that the Hutus were stockpiling, but his superiors in New York refused to give him permission.


Eventually he had to focus his small body of troops on parts of Kigali in which he knew that Tutsis were hiding. He eventually saved thousands of Tutsis.


Yet he had post traumatic stress disorder because of the events that he witnessed in Rwanda. He repeatedly tried to kill himself because of the psychological torture he experienced whenever he remembered what happened in Rwanda.


And to think that the head of the UN’s peacekeeping department at the time, then was our very own; Koffi Anan. I listened to a recent interview he did just before his death this year on BBC and he was asked about the genocide in Rwanda. He said he made a move then, but the U.N. security council refused to approve the sending of more troops to Rwanda even after General Dallaire made a request. He said, he has to abide by the agreed resolution.

The point in which the resolution was made is that it is an internal issue and since Rwanda was a sovereign nation, it's sovereignty has to be respected until they officially ask for help. He also said that the time was just not there to put every thing in place.

He further said of how once he was called upon to give account of the negligence of the U.N. during the genocide in Rwanda and he raised the issue of time and a journalist told him that God made the world in seven days but he allowed the genocide to go on for weeks. His answer was that God worked alone but in his case, he was working with the security council that were not disposed to sending more troops.

I guess in all in all, Rwanda Genocide was one question he has to answer everywhere he go till he breathed his last.

My own bit is that humanity is no longer for humanity. Humanity has failed humanity. No more value for what is good or bad, no value for morality, no value for life. What humanity values is what do I stand to gain or lose. U.N. could have step up to prevent this but majority of its members looked at it as what is it for them or their countries.
Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by phase1: 10:49am On Nov 02, 2018
Madam Ishilove I think you are a pretentious hypocrite, you are one of the biggest haters of Biafrans who defended themselves from genocide ten times worse than what happened to the Tutsis of Rwanda. You mock them while they cry in pains of injuries inflicted by the genocidist right in your country.

You shed crocodile tears while giving moral support to the carnage that happened to the Igbos. You are a HYPOCRITE. I know your history here in Nairaland.

Spare us your crocodile tears.

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Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by naptu2: 10:54am On Nov 02, 2018
Roh50:



And to think that the head of UN then was our very own; Koffi Anan. I listened to a recent interview he did just before his death this year on BBC and he was asked about the genocide in Rwanda. He said he made a move then, but the U.N. security council refused to approve the sending of more troops to Rwanda even after General Dallaire made a request. He said, he has to abide by the agreed resolution.

The point in which the resolution was made is that it is an internal issue and since Rwanda was a sovereign nation, it's sovereignty has to be respected until they officially ask for help. He also said that the time was just not there to put every thing in place.

He further said of how once he was called upon to give account of the negligence of the U.N. during the genocide in Rwanda and he raised the issue of time and a journalist told him that God made the world in seven days but he allowed the genocide to go on for weeks. His answer was that God worked alone but in his case, he was working with the security council that were not disposed to sending more troops.

I guess in all in all, Rwanda Genocide was one question he has to answer everywhere he go till he breathed his last.

My own bit is that humanity is no longer for humanity. Humanity has failed humanity. No more value for what is good or bad, no value for morality, no value for life. What humanity values is what do I stand to gain or lose. U.N. could have step up to prevent this but majority of its members looked at it as what is it for them or their countries.


naptu2:


Kofi Annan wasn't the secretary general at the time.

The secretary general of the UN at the time was Boutros Boutros Ghalli of Egypt.

I remember that he requested for assistance but none of the Western Powers wanted to provide assistance because of what happened to the US in Somalia.

He blamed the US while the US blamed him. He had a spat with Madeline Albright who was the US ambassador to the UN.

A secretary general usually has two terms and Boutros Ghalli was serving Africa's first term, but Madeline Albright campaigned hard to ensure that he didn't get a second term.

Kofi Annan was thus elected to continue Africa's tenure.
Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by Roh50(f): 11:25am On Nov 02, 2018
In 1994, at least 800,000 Rwandans were
slaughtered in a 100-day genocide, when Hutu
soldiers and militias slaughtered members of the
Tutsi ethnic group. At that time, Annan was
chief of U.N. peacekeeping.


Annan left behind a complicated legacy when he
died Saturday at age 80. A Ghanaian national, he
would go on to become the first U.N. secretary
general from sub-Saharan Africa.

The Nobel Peace Prize laureate managed to in some ways to make progress in Africa in his time leading the
U.N. and after, but many saw his failure to
intervene in Rwanda beforehand as inextricably
intertwined with his later accomplishments. (He
also oversaw peacekeeping during the brutal
Srebrenica massacre that left thousands of
Muslims dead during the Balkans War.)


In 1994, the U.N. instructed Canadian Lt. Gen.
Romeo Dallaire, who headed the U.N.
peacekeeping force in Rwanda, not to intervene.
Dallaire wanted more troops to quell the
escalating violence, but instead most of them
were withdrawn. In 2014, Dallaire wrote in a
Washington Post column that “[p]reventing this
genocide was possible; it was our moral
obligation. And it’s a failure that has haunted me
every day for the last 20 years.”


As journalist Stanley Meisler wrote in Annan’s
obituary in The Washington Post: "He and his
aides worked behind the scenes to prevent the
widespread killing in Rwanda, but they said the
forces of ethnic hatred were too strong to
temper. When the massacres erupted in the
mid-1990s, the U.N. Security Council, led by the
United States, did little to stop them; hundreds of
thousands were killed. "

Washington Post
Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by naptu2: 11:35am On Nov 02, 2018
Ishilove, Elfico, Vivuch, Roh50.

Since yesterday night I've been writing a piece that explains why the world did not intervene in the Rwanda crisis. I hope I finish it before the end of today.

I remember these issues very well. It all began with Ronald Reagan in the mid 1980s and the Somali debacle of 1993 was a crucial factor.

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Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by Roh50(f): 11:43am On Nov 02, 2018
naptu2:





The article, in the New Yorker, alleges that the
head of the UN forces in Rwanda, General
Romeo Dallaire, sent a message to the office of
Mr Annan, then in charge of UN peacekeeping
operations, on 11 January 1994 warning of the
impending massacre. The General cited a
Rwandan security official saying he had been
ordered to prepare for the "extermination" of the
Tutsis.


According to the report, by journalist Philip
Gourevitch, Gen Dallaire was ordered not to
intervene and to turn over what he had been
told by the informant to the Hutu government of
the late President Juvenal Habyarimana.


I meant to type Head of UN peacekeeping operations at that time. It was an omission. Thanks anyway
Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by VeeVeeMyLuv(m): 12:02pm On Nov 02, 2018
This is what could happen when over 90% of the the security heads/apparatus are from a section of a particular country, where the HOS in the spirit of nepotism declared the 93% Vs 5%.

People should just do the right thing.
Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by TheBeni: 12:25pm On Nov 02, 2018
Ishilove:

I wouldn't be surprised at all, after all didn't Jesus point out that "these people worship me with their lips but their hearts are far from me." On that day He said he will tell them to depart from him because they are workers of iniquity


grin What an irony...
Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by olajizz01(m): 2:57pm On Nov 02, 2018
Chai,only your men who never knew what war looks like, are the people who clamour for it,may Almighty forgive the lost soul and console the bereaved.
Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by elfico(m): 3:05pm On Nov 02, 2018
naptu2:
Ishilove, Elfico, Vivuch, Roh50.

Since yesterday night I've been writing a piece that explains why the world did not intervene in the Rwanda crisis. I hope I finish it before the end of today.

I remember these issues very well. It all began with Ronald Reagan in the mid 1980s and the Somali debacle of 1993 was a crucial factor.
Can't wait to read it
Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by Nobody: 3:32pm On Nov 02, 2018
HERE IS THE REAL CAUSE OF THE WAR, YOU WILL UNERSTAND IT IF YOU CAN WATCH THIS 59 MINUTES VIDEO




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQSn1NiVuCo
Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by blacktallest(f): 3:33pm On Nov 02, 2018
Ishilove:

What happened in Somalia with the Americans?

Watch Black hawk down. You'll have an idea
Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by onunwa21(m): 7:57pm On Nov 02, 2018
It's April again
Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by naptu2: 9:44am On Nov 03, 2018
Ishilove, Elfico, Vivuch, Roh50. (scroll down to continue reading after this post. There are 5 posts below).

Memories of the failure to stop the Rwandan Genocide

I think I've written a little bit about this before, but I'm not sure, so I'll write it anyway.

It all began during the Reagan Administration in the mid-1980s.

Ronald Reagan seemed to me to be a person that liked wars or at least a person that believed in military solutions to problems. grin My dad called him a "cowboy" during the 1984 Olympics in Los Angeles.
Now remember, this was during the Cold War and the US was in an on again/off again arms race with the Soviet Union.

The only thing keeping the peace at that time was the theory of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD). This was the idea that the United States (and NATO) and the Soviet Union (and the Warsaw Pact countries) had enough nuclear weapons and intercontinental balistic missiles to destroy each other.

This meant that the United States would not launch a nuclear strike on the Soviet Union because it knew that the Soviet Union would launch a retaliatory strike and both nations (and a large part of the world) would be destroyed.

Ronald Reagan did not believe in MAD and he wanted to make nuclear weapons useless, so he started the Star Wars Plan.

That's not it's official name, but that's what it was often called in the media and that's what I called it in my mind. It's official name was the Strategic Defence Initiative. Man! That thing sparked my imagination!

My favourite parts of the plan were (1) proposals to develop lasers that could vaporise intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM) (2) proposals to arm satellites in space with missiles that could shoot down ICBMs and other satellites. The program also included developing faster supercomputers that could take charge of the command and control functions needed to operate these weapons. There were other futuristic proposals attached to this plan.

Many people credit Ronald Reagan with ending the Cold War. How did he end the Cold War when he had already left office before the Berlin Wall came down and long before the Soviet Union collapsed?

Well, the Star Wars programme and other such military programmes that the Reagan Administration embarked on were incredibly expensive. The Soviet Union also spent a lot of money to upgrade its military to meet the challenges posed by the American programmes and the Soviet Union went broke and this led to its collapse.

The crazy military spending of the Reagan era also affected the US economy. Reagan piled up huge debts which he used to fund his military spending. Things were ok at first, because this spending was creating jobs in the defence industry, but inflation rose and the US economy fell into a recession.

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Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by naptu2: 9:44am On Nov 03, 2018
By this time Reagan had left office and George Bush The First was president. There were social and economic problems in the US. The gap between the rich and the poor was widening, crack cocaine appeared on US streets (particularly in black neighbourhoods), allegedly facilitated by the CIA in order to fund the Contra Rebels and racial tensions and race riots (e.g. the Rodney King/LA riots) were increasing.

At this point the American people wanted the government to focus on American domestic problems rather than foreign policy. The Soviet Union had collapsed and there was no great military threat to the existence of the US, but there were serious social and economic problems within the US and the people wanted the government to solve those problems.

However, the Bush Administration was still obsessed with foreign policy. President Bush gave many speeches in which he talked about a "new world order" and an opportunity for the US to dictate the pace of world affairs and ensure peace, since it had become the sole superpower due to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

[img]http://naijachronicles.files./2018/10/800px-george_h__w__bush_crop.jpg?w=584[/img]
George Bush The First



This was why Bill Clinton won the 1992 election.


There was an increase in gang violence, crack cocaine on the streets, increased police harassment of blacks and hispanics (factors that led to the rise of hard core and gangster rap), a recession, etc. yet the president was obsessed with foreign policy. Americans were tired of being the "policeman of the world", yet the president was talking about a "new world order".

I will never forget the night I saw this. Bill Clinton walked into the arena at a campaign rally carrying a big sign that read, "It's The Economy, Stupid!" (I watched it on CBN News in 1992).

Basically, he was saying that the main problem facing the country at that time was the economy (and domestic policy), not foreign policy. That was exactly what Americans wanted to hear and they elected him.

[img]http://naijachronicles.files./2018/10/economy.jpg?w=584[/img]

Clinton promised to focus on domestic policy, but his first major challenge was actually about foreign policy. It was about Somalia.

What happened in Somalia?

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Re: Rwanda Genocide: A Survivor's Heart Rending Testimony (Pics) by naptu2: 9:45am On Nov 03, 2018
Major General Mohammed Siad Barre became the president of Somalia after a military coup in 1969. The US Government supported his government in the late 1970s and 1980s because they saw it as a counterweight to the communist government in Ethiopia (which was backed by the Soviet Union).


Unfortunately Siad Barre's government became increasingly dictatorial, tyrannical and oppressive in the 1980s. He suspected that other ethnic groups were plotting against him so he starved them and denied them water so that they would die of thirst. He also killed many members of his own government because he thought that they were plotting a coup against him.

Naturally, many rebel groups sprung up against him. Some of these groups were supported by the communist government in Ethiopia. The Cold War ended in 1990 and the United States stopped supporting Siad Barre, because they didn't need him anymore (the communist government in Ethiopia was also overthrown). The rebels were marching on the capital, Mogadishu, so Siad Barre fled to Lagos.

[img]http://naijachronicles.files./2018/10/baree.jpg?w=584[/img]
US President Ronald Reagan and Somali President General Mohamed Siad Barre

I often saw Siad Barre and his people driving around Ikoyi in Federal Government (W126) S Class Mercedes Benz in the early 1990s. It made my friend very angry. "This man destroyed his country and fled to Lagos to live in luxury, while his people suffered", my friend said.

Now, Siad Barre was gone, so you'd expect that peace would break out, right? (Ethiopia and Eritrea experienced peace when the dictator, Mengistu Haile Merriam, was chased away). That's not what happened.

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