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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 8:44pm On Nov 06, 2018
jieta:
You like running down our team against Ivory coast all the time. they have the best team in Africa yet could not even qualify for the knock out stage on two occasions of being to the world cup. i don't know how many times it took Nigeria to make a statement in the world cup. maybe you should tell me?


I agree, Nigeria have an average middle fielders. but yet this average middle fielders are unbeaten in the last thirty six world cup qualifying( one of the best in Africa) and only bested by Brazil and Spain, this average middle field is third in Africa and the only team to have been to the last three world cup.

And your world class middle fielders of ivory coast are in what number in Africa ranking please remind me. The good thing is that the last time the both team melt Nigeria came top so show some respect cheesycheesycheesy
Bro we talking facts not feelings. We talking present not past. Nigeria had it and we proud of those greats and their achievements for the national team. When they were there, Ivory Coast had nothing on us but same cant be said of the present midfielders bar, iwobi, Ndidi and aged Mikel. Now tell me, can u compare these carpenters(Etebo, Ogu, Agu) with any of our greats past? My dear I cant settle for less, hence I no fit follow una dey glorify mediocrities. A team where Wilson Oruma was a fringe player is parading the Agus, Etebos, Ogus of this world as midfielders and u want Chriskels to be hailing them? Ogbeni make I hear word
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 8:45pm On Nov 06, 2018
Icon4s:
All these former players wey think say being a good player will automatically make u a good coach.

See The Igwe of Arsenal losing 0-3 at home to Club Brugge

Modified: 0-4!
You no see wetin de do AC Milan?

From Inzaghi to Seedorf and now Gatusso.

Very soon Cafu, Dida, Kaka, Pirlo and the rest will come do their turn in Serie F.



Though, Gatusso de try pass the rest sha.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:47pm On Nov 06, 2018
junnyjake:
W.T.F!

Thiery Henry should be fired ASAP.
He obviously needs to go back to the bakery men. Thank God he, Vierra or Arteta were not given the Arsenal job as were rumored then.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 8:49pm On Nov 06, 2018
Taliban:
E be like say Bonaventure no dey listed for brugges. Does anyone know why?
Injury
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:49pm On Nov 06, 2018
junnyjake:
You no see wetin de do AC Milan?

From Inzaghi to Seedorf and now Gatusso.

Very soon Cafu, Dida, Kaka, Pirlo and the rest will come do their turn in Serie F.



Though, Gatusso de try pass the rest sha.
Honestly with the exception of Pep most other ex-footballers have failed as coaches.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 8:51pm On Nov 06, 2018
Icon4s:
Na him be say u no jam the kine maths wey be say......
Lolzzz,

I don solve maths for this life!

And that pic, I think, I've experienced something like that before, I was getting -45 as my final answer and my mates - those ones wey their head de catch fire, de tell me say na 0.89 be answer.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 8:51pm On Nov 06, 2018
Icon4s:
Omo e surprise me say Ken no marry her o.
She is engaged to Azeez, the beach football player.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 8:52pm On Nov 06, 2018
Icon4s:
Honestly with the exception of Pep most other ex-footballers have failed as coaches.
Even the ones that are currently successful were not that good during their playing days.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:53pm On Nov 06, 2018
tbaba1234:
She is engaged to Azeez, the beach football player.
Ow really?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:53pm On Nov 06, 2018
junnyjake:
Even the ones that are currently successful were not that good during their playing days.
Exactly!

See how Maradona failed. Why Pele too no try?

I have always told people that someone like JJ Okocha can never make a good coach. I have held this opinion since his playing days. Many of them are technically gifted but tactically deficient.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 8:53pm On Nov 06, 2018
Icon4s:
He obviously needs to go back to the bakery men. Thank God he, Vierra or Arteta were not given the Arsenal job as were rumored then.
Absolutely!

He ain't ready yet.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:59pm On Nov 06, 2018
junnyjake:
Lolzzz,

I don solve maths for this life!

And that pic, I think, I've experienced something like that before, I was getting -45 as my final answer and my mates - those ones wey their head de catch fire, de tell me say na 0.89 be answer.
Imagine when dem go give u word problem and your answer go be like -45boys. Lol!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 9:00pm On Nov 06, 2018
Icon4s:
Honestly with the exception of Pep most other ex-footballers have failed as coaches.
Top players = poor coaches
Poor/average players = good coaches

Irony of life
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:04pm On Nov 06, 2018
Icon4s:
Honestly with the exception of Pep most other ex-footballers have failed as coaches.
Like Zidane, Ancelotti, Deschamps, and Mancini. All quality footballers who failed as coaches.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:05pm On Nov 06, 2018
Chrismario:
Top players = poor coaches
Poor/average players = good coaches

Irony of life
Zidane.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:07pm On Nov 06, 2018
Chrismario:
Top players = poor coaches
Poor/average players = good coaches

Irony of life
Yeah mostly true.

Look at Nigeria's top footballers and see their coaching careers:Amuneke, Amokachi,Siasia, Oliseh. JJ and Kanu just respected themselves no try am.
With the exception of Keshi who by the way did not play football at the level most of those above played. Siasia too tried sha and of course he didn't play at the level those on the above list played.

Truely, the average or below average players are the ones that make good coaches.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:08pm On Nov 06, 2018
The problem with football today is the expectation of quick results. Thierry Henry definitely has the knowledge and skills for the job. However, rescuing a sinking ship is tough. I hope he gets the support and faith to pick up the team. If he gets sacked, he should try again.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:08pm On Nov 06, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
Zidane.
1/100. Lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 9:10pm On Nov 06, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
Zidane.
Zidane is an outlier grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 9:16pm On Nov 06, 2018
Icon4s:
Exactly!

See how Maradona failed. Why Pele too no try?

I have always told people that someone like JJ Okocha can never make a good coach. I have held this opinion since his playing days. Many of them are technically gifted but tactically deficient.
Cruyff succeeded as a coach. Our own Keshi too.
The former coach of newcastle, Kevin keegan, deschamps, pochetinno, zidane, former psg french coach Lauren blanc, Frank reijkard, Diego simeone, pep guardiola, Franz beckenbaur, even our siAsia too
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 9:16pm On Nov 06, 2018
Icon4s:
Na him be say u no jam the kine maths wey be say......
see the guy, make me rethink maths, the tin wey pain be say, Dem transfer am, before I write junior waec,
him sabi math wella,
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 9:17pm On Nov 06, 2018
neighy:
what was his output in his last season in lille? 2011/2012?

7 epl goals i think, 8 in all competition

btw hazard is not a player you'll judge by his goals, Well for me
How far man
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 9:18pm On Nov 06, 2018
Icon4s:
Yeah mostly true.

Look at Nigeria's top footballers and see their coaching careers:Amuneke, Amokachi,Siasia, Oliseh. JJ and Kanu just respected themselves no try am.
With the exception of Keshi who by the way did not play football at the level most of those above played. Siasia too tried sha and of course he didn't play at the level those on the above list played.

Truely, the average or below average players are the ones that make good coaches.
Because maybe they are not naturally gifted. They spent many years learning how to (do whatever) from coaches to fit in while the good ones are showcasing skills like neymar and Pogba during trainings.

Modified: this two dancers listed above are likely to be worse-ter* than Mr Neville if they try coaching
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m):
Icon4s:
1/100. Lol
What of Diego Simeone and Rijkaard who played at the highest level for club and country?

Even Diego Simeone had a very rough patch in Argentina. It takes patience and belief to swing the tide in the direction of the coach. Even Keshi had a rough patch with one of the junior teams before it clicked for him.

Unfortunately, football lacks patience and result is what people think about.

I hope Henry gets the support he needs from the management. He can do it with time. If not, he looks for a smaller club in France and keeps trying.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Curtisaxel7(m): 9:21pm On Nov 06, 2018
Chrismario:
Top players = poor coaches
Poor/average players = good coaches

Irony of life
Good news for us then. By the time this present crop of carpenters and average players like Agu, Ogu, Iheanacho and co retires, we'll have a bunch of superb coaches on our hands. grin.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 9:23pm On Nov 06, 2018
Curtisaxel7:
Good news for us then. By the time this present crop of carpenters and average players like Agu, Ogu, Iheanacho and co retires, we'll have a bunch of superb coaches on our hands. grin.
Guy you Dae craze ooo grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:23pm On Nov 06, 2018
Chrismario:
Because maybe they are not naturally gifted. They spent many years learning how to (do whatever) from coaches to fit in while the good ones are showcasing skills like neymar and Pogba during trainings.

Modified: this two dancers listed above are likely to be worse-ter* than Mr Neville if they try coaching
Gary Neville gave up too early. He is a genius. He just took a drastic step going to Valencia where the philosophy is totally different from what he worked with in England. Then playing against top teams who understood the Spanish game more than him.

I believe Gary will do better with an English side and with time to grow.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:26pm On Nov 06, 2018
Icon4s:
All these former players wey think say being a good player will automatically make u a good coach.

See The Igwe of Arsenal losing 0-3 at home to Club Brugge

Modified: 0-4!
That happens to world class coaches also.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:26pm On Nov 06, 2018
Taliban:
Cruyff succeeded as a coach. Our own Keshi too.
The former coach of newcastle, Kevin keegan, deschamps, pochetinno, zidane, former psg french coach Lauren blanc, Frank reijkard, Diego simeone, pep guardiola, Franz beckenbaur, even our siAsia too
I tire. We can add Tigana, Bobby Robson, Daniel Pazarella, Mario Zagallo etc.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:26pm On Nov 06, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
What of Diego Simeone and Rijkaard who played at the highest level for club and country?

Even Diego Simeone had a very rough patch in Argentina. It takes patience and belief to swing the tide in the direction of the coach. Even Keshi had a rough patch with one of the junior teams before it clicked for him.

Unfortunately, football lacks patience and result is what people think about.

I hope Henry gets the support he needs from the management. He can do it with time. If not, he looks for a smaller club in France and keep trying.
Not the key word : "Most" and not "all".
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 9:29pm On Nov 06, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
Gary Neville gave up too early. He is a genius. He just took a drastic step going to Valencia where the philosophy is totally different from what he worked with in England. Then playing against top teams who understood the Spanish game more than him.

I believe Gary will do better with an English side and with time to grow.
Yes,,, he can do better but until then.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:32pm On Nov 06, 2018
From Wiki on Diego Simeone:

On 7 November 2008, Simeone announced his resignation as coach of River Plate after their elimination in the quarter-finals of the 2008 Copa Sudamericana by Mexican side Chivas and a poor run of form of 11 domestic matches without a win, which left them bottom of the Primera División Argentina with only six matches remaining

If you judge Simeone on this patch, he will look poor. With patience and adjusting his philosophy, he was able to turn out a top manager. I hope Monaco are patient with Henry. It was already a damaged team before his arrival.
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