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Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by Hadampson(m): 4:30pm On Nov 09, 2018
The German R

The German R is one of the most challenging consonants for native speakers of English to master.

Unlike English, German uses either the uvular r (the uvula is the small flap of skin hanging from the soft palate at the back of the mouth) or the tongue-trilled r.

As far as the German, I assume the uvular ʀ is commonly used. In order to be able to pronounce it well, you need to gargle( do like hausa that want to spit grin)

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Take a sip of water in your mouth, put your head back and gargle. Basically, that is what you have to do if you want to pronounce the gargled r (uvular r)

Now try and make the same sound without the water

It will take a while until you can get the balance between tenseness and laxness of the sound.


There are some laws guiding the German R

1) If the first syllable is R, you have to use the gargled R... It is pronounced like krrrr in a gargle manner

Examples..... das Rathaus, die Ratte, Russland
Rechts, Rot, Rennen, aufräumen


2) After voiced consonant, you also have to pronounce it like gargled R

groß, die Größe, grün, Bremen, der Druck


3) When R follows an unvoiced consonants, then you have to pronounce it like KRA in a gargle manner.

der Preis, Prima, Krank, der Schrank, die Treppe

4) Before vowels, the R is pronounced RI in gargle manner

Fahren, Studieren, gehören


5) At the end of the syllable, the R will be silent. It will sound more like ah

Lernen, die Schwiegereltern, gefährlich


6) At the end of the word, the R sounds like ah

Für, das Wetter, der, der Politiker, der Fußballspieler, das Bier


7) Before consonant, the R is also pronounced ah

der Berg, dort, die Eltern, kurz, morgen



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To master the German R, you need alot of practice.

For pronunciation, search learn German with Jenny on youtube. Look for the GERMAN R by Jenny. The video is well explained.


#Shalom
Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by Hadampson(m): 6:25pm On Nov 09, 2018
The Letter s, alone and in combination


The pronunciation of the letter s depends on its position in the word. If it is in initial position preceding a vowel or stands between two vowels, it is pronounced like an English z. In other positions, it is usually pronounced as a soft s.


For example

Initial S - Salz, sehr, Seife, Suppe, sagen, sicher, süß........ The S is pronounced like Z in Zoo.


s between vowels - lesen, Käse, Mäuse, Häuser, Eisen....... The S is pronounced like Z in Zoo


Final s - Hals, Puls, das, Eis, Gans, Gas, mittags ...... The S is pronounced like S in Bus.



Consonant Clusters with s


The letter s also occurs in combination with other letters


For example

Sch - schön, wischen, wünschen, Tisch, rasch. It is pronounced like sh in the word SHINE

Sp - spät, Spiel, sprechen, spazieren, Sprache. There is no English equivalent for this but alternatively, you can pronounce it like shp

St - Stein, Stadt, still, entstehen, studieren.... No English equivalent for this also but you can pronounce it like sht
Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by Hadampson(m): 8:33pm On Nov 09, 2018
Next lesson is on Nouns and Articles


Capitalization
German is one of the few languages which uses capital letters not only at the beginning of sentences but also within sentences. In English, this applies only to proper names, to the personal pronoun ‘I’ and to personifications such as ‘Love’.

In German, all nouns or any word used as noun must always be written with a capital letter, regardless of whether they are at the beginning of a sentence or in the middle.

der Herr, das Haus, die Ratte, der Junge, der Reisende, das Mädchen, das Lesen, das Schreiben, das Singen.


Let's us look at some sentences

1) Der Mann und die Frau arbeiten jeden Tag am Computer.
The man and the woman work at their computer every day.

2) ich gehe zu Marianne
I'm going to Marianna's place

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The emboldened words are the noun*

Note that the pronoun ich (‘I’) has no initial capital in German, but Sie
(formal form of ‘you’) has.
Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by Hadampson(m): 8:54pm On Nov 09, 2018
Guys i forgot to tell you about the special characters and their importance.

ß – the sharp ‘s’

The letter ß, called ess-tset in German, is pronounced like the normal English ‘s’, for example in ‘sun’ or ‘basic’.

German uses this letter for instance after ei and ie, and after a, o, u if they are pronounced long:

heißen to be called
Straße street
groß big

The umlauts – ä, ö, ü

These are very important. They change the pronunciation of a word and more importantly, its meaning: Mutter means ‘mother’, but Mütter is the plural form and means
‘mothers’. Musste means had to, but müsste means ‘should’ or ‘ought to
Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by willy2000(m): 10:11pm On Nov 09, 2018
nice work, but be prepared to be banned always by seuns bot

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Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by drakura: 10:24pm On Nov 09, 2018
Hadampson:
As i have said earlier in one of my posts, the most difficult language is one you are uninterested in learning.

The easiest language is whichever language you enjoy most (for whatever reasons you may have) and have most readily available to immerse yourself.

When i first started learning German. My first impression of the language was poor and i had little knowledge of the resources available.

Because of these reasons I found the language dull, ugly sounding, complicated, and ultimately uninteresting. Simple concepts made little sense to me but as time goes on, i started getting it. The enthusiasm to learn it quickly was all over me. Gradually, i started forming sentences and words. Right now, i can say am still in A1 level because i haven't mastered the CASES(Nominative, dative, accusative and genitive)

So to cut my story short, every language has to be easy enough to learn at least in its spoken form.

You need consistency and commitment to learn German. If you have these 2 qualities, learning German would be as easy as ABC

Bitte

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Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by DisturbingEU(m): 12:20am On Nov 10, 2018
Hadampson:
Hallo freund
Wie geht's dir �

Super danke und dir?

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Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by Hadampson(m): 6:40am On Nov 10, 2018
willy2000:
nice work, but be prepared to be banned always by seuns bot
That one na normal thing o cos i no fit count d number of times that antispam bot don ban me.

I don even complain about it but be like say dem no fit do anything.
Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by beatmonster(m): 6:59am On Nov 10, 2018
guten morgen
Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by Hadampson(m): 7:13am On Nov 10, 2018
DisturbingEU:


Super danke und dir?


Mir geht es gut brüder. Was gibt es neues undecided smiley
Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by Hadampson(m): 7:15am On Nov 10, 2018
beatmonster:
guten morgen

Guten Morgen bruder
Wie geht's? ich hoffe du schläfst letze nacht gut?
Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by willy2000(m): 7:37am On Nov 10, 2018
Hadampson:


Guten Morgen bruder
Wie geht's? ich hoffe du schläfst letze nacht gut?

Not to sound mean, but we are all learning...... what you meant to write here is how are you? I hope you slept well last night.
This should be written in past tense. So the right sentence should be.

Wie geht's dir? " ich hoffe, dass du gut geschlafen hast?" or make it short "hast du gut geschalfen? "

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Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by Hadampson(m): 8:00am On Nov 10, 2018
What is a noun?

A noun is a naming word for a living being, thing or idea, for example, woman, happiness, Andrew. German nouns change, according to their gender, case and number.This is called declension.

GENDER: Using nouns

Unlike in English, where nouns almost always reflect natural gender (that is, the sex of the noun determines its gender, e.g., father, man, and boy are masculine; mother, woman, and girl are feminine; and hand, table, and friendship are neuter), all German nouns have grammatical gender. A noun can be masculine, feminine, or neuter, regardless of its natural gender. For example... der Mann (The Man)
das Mädchen (The girl)
die Person (The person)

The definite article der(the) designates a masculine noun, die designates a feminine noun, and das a
neuter noun. For example der Junge, die Frau, das Bild

Nouns that refer specifically to male beings, such as father and uncle, are usually masculine. Those that refer to female beings, such as mother and daughter, are usually feminine.

However, nouns referring to things are not always neuter; they can also be masculine or feminine.

For this reason, the gender of each
noun must be memorized and the best way
to do it is to learn it with its article. You will find that this will pay off in the long term.
der Teppich (The carpet)
die Zeit (The time)
das Bild (The picture)

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>Whenever you are using a noun, you need to know whether it is masculine, feminine or neuter as this affects the form of other words used with it. Such as:

*Adjectives that describe it
*Articles(such as der or ein)that go before it
*Pronouns(such as er or sie)that replace it

>We refer to something as singular when we are talking about just one, and as plural when we are talking about more than one.The singular is the form of the noun you will usually find when you look a noun up in the dictionary. As in English, nouns in Cerman change their form in the plural.

die Katze cat -------- die Katzen cats


>Adjectives, articles and pronouns are also affected by whether a noun is singular
or plural. So take note of that


Guten Morgen leute.
Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by Hadampson(m): 8:10am On Nov 10, 2018
willy2000:


Not to sound mean, but we are all learning...... what you meant to write here is how are you? I hope you slept well last night.
This should be written in past tense. So the right sentence should be.

Wie geht's dir? " ich hoffe, dass du gut geschlafen hast?" or make it short "hast du gut geschalfen? "
Thanks for the correction bro.

I'm still in A1 level and i haven't mastered Präteritum imperfekt very well. I will start working on it. Once again thanks for the correction, i really appreciate

It's nice to have you here bro smiley
Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by DisturbingEU(m): 8:57am On Nov 10, 2018
Hadampson:



Mir geht es gut brüder. Was gibt es neues undecided smiley

Ich bin jetzt zuhause entspannen

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Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by Hadampson(m): 9:35am On Nov 10, 2018
DisturbingEU:


Ich bin jetzt zuhause entspannen
Gut. Hier in Nigeria oder Deutschland

Wo wohnst du?

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Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by DisturbingEU(m): 9:42am On Nov 10, 2018
Hadampson:
Gut. Hier in Nigeria oder Deutschland

Wo wohnst du?

Ich wohne in Deutschland seit einem Jahr

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Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by Hadampson(m): 10:11am On Nov 10, 2018
DisturbingEU:


Ich wohne in Deutschland seit einem Jahr
Prima!! Du lebst in Deutschland, meinem Traumland grin du hast Glück cheesy

Bro, abeg which one is correct o if you want to say you are lucky brother

Is it "du hast Glück bruder" or "du bist ein Glücklich bruder"


cc: willy2000
Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by DisturbingEU(m): 10:22am On Nov 10, 2018
Hadampson:
Prima!! Du lebst in Deutschland, meinem Traumland grin du hast Glück cheesy

Bro, abeg which one is correct o if you want to say you are lucky brother

Is it "du hast Glück bruder" or "du bist ein Glücklich bruder"


cc: willy2000

Ich denke "du bist ein Glücklich bruder"

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Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by Hadampson(m): 10:31am On Nov 10, 2018
DisturbingEU:


Ich denke "du bist ein Glücklich bruder"
Vielen dank bruder. I'm still learning German(don't know how to say that in German; D)


Wie behandelt dich Deutschland?
Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by willy2000(m): 11:48am On Nov 10, 2018
DisturbingEU:


Ich denke "du bist ein Glücklich glücklicher bruder"
when you literally translate from English to German it is as the above, but glücklich becomes an adjective so you have to declinate it.
A native speaker would just say, Du hast Glück, Brüder.

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Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by willy2000(m): 11:52am On Nov 10, 2018
DisturbingEU:


Ich wohne in Deutschland seit einem Jahr
In sentence structure, you have to obey the rules.
German sentences are usually "time, manner, place."

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Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by DisturbingEU(m): 11:57am On Nov 10, 2018
willy2000:

In sentence structure, you have to obey the rules.
German sentences are usually "time, manner, place."


Ich wohne seit einem Jahr in Deutschland smiley
Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by DisturbingEU(m): 12:02pm On Nov 10, 2018
Hadampson:
Vielen dank bruder. I'm still learning German(don't know how to say that in German; D)


Wie behandelt dich Deutschland?

Deutschland mich gut behandeln

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Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by willy2000(m): 12:04pm On Nov 10, 2018
Hadampson:
What is a noun?

A noun is a naming word for a living being, thing or idea, for example, woman, happiness, Andrew. German nouns change, according to their gender, case and number.This is called declension.

GENDER: Using nouns

Unlike in English, where nouns almost always reflect natural gender (that is, the sex of the noun determines its gender, e.g., father, man, and boy are masculine; mother, woman, and girl are feminine; and hand, table, and friendship are neuter), all German nouns have grammatical gender. A noun can be masculine, feminine, or neuter, regardless of its natural gender. For example... der Mann (The Man)
das Mädchen (The girl)
die Person (The person)

The definite article der(the) designates a masculine noun, die designates a feminine noun, and das a
neuter noun. For example der Junge, die Frau, das Bild

Nouns that refer specifically to male beings, such as father and uncle, are usually masculine. Those that refer to female beings, such as mother and daughter, are usually feminine.

However, nouns referring to things are not always neuter; they can also be masculine or feminine.

For this reason, the gender of each
noun must be memorized and the best way
to do it is to learn it with its article. You will find that this will pay off in the long term.
der Teppich (The carpet)
die Zeit (The time)
das Bild (The picture)

###
>Whenever you are using a noun, you need to know whether it is masculine, feminine or neuter as this affects the form of other words used with it. Such as:

*Adjectives that describe it
*Articles(such as der or ein)that go before it
*Pronouns(such as er or sie)that replace it

>We refer to something as singular when we are talking about just one, and as plural when we are talking about more than one.The singular is the form of the noun you will usually find when you look a noun up in the dictionary. As in English, nouns in Cerman change their form in the plural.

die Katze cat -------- die Katzen cats


>Adjectives, articles and pronouns are also affected by whether a noun is singular
or plural. So take note of that


Guten Morgen leute.



It is good to learn the theoretical part, but to be honest with you. The easiest and best way of learning the language fast is by immersion.
I learnt German in Nigeria to B1 but when I came here, I had no confidence to speak, because you are not taught how to speak fast.
Once you get here the speed the language is used will take you off, but you then have to build confidence over time.
Just my opinion, from experience, too much grammar rules sometimes hinder you from speaking fluently. But each to his own. Learn what works for you and use it.
You learn pronunciation by repetition, so lay more emphasis on grammar rules and sentence structure, then build your vocabulary.

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Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by willy2000(m): 12:05pm On Nov 10, 2018
DisturbingEU:


Ich wohne seit einem Jahr in Deutschland smiley
Richtig grin

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Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by willy2000(m): 12:16pm On Nov 10, 2018
DisturbingEU:


Deutschland mich gut behandeln

Haha i didn't see this.
May you can appeal to seun to add German to his spambots language, otherwise it will keep hiding and banning you......... I wanted to do this sometime ago, I got frustrated.

I hope it will not see this. " dein Satz ist falsch" du hast kein Verb benutzt, und auch macht es keinen Sinn, wenn man solcher Satz schreibt, wie kann ein Land man behandelt. It is always the first challenge for English speakers. when you literally translate to German, most times the verbs are very tricky.
Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by Hadampson(m): 12:42pm On Nov 10, 2018
willy2000:

when you literally translate from English to German it is as the above, but glücklich becomes an adjective so you have to declinate it.
A native speaker would just say, Du hast Glück, Brüder.
Many thanks for this bro

One of the problems i have with learning deutsch is translating the German sentences literally to English

I wanted to write du hast Glück but i thought to myself that Glück means luck and i was like "does it make sense to say you have luck grin i guess i still have a long way to go.

I have read many materials about how to construct a sentence but still, i don't understand how some sentences are formed. Can you please highlight the steps on how to construct a good sentence that is acceptable in German.
Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by Hadampson(m): 12:46pm On Nov 10, 2018
DisturbingEU:


Deutschland mich gut behandeln
das ist schön bruder cheesy
Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by Hadampson(m): 1:32pm On Nov 10, 2018
willy2000:



It is good to learn the theoretical part, but to be honest with you. The easiest and best way of learning the language fast is by immersion.
I learnt German in Nigeria to B1 but when I came here, I had no confidence to speak, because you are not taught how to speak fast.
Once you get here the speed the language is used will take you off, but you then have to build confidence over time.
Just my opinion, from experience, too much grammar rules sometimes hinder you from speaking fluently. But each to his own. Learn what works for you and use it.
You learn pronunciation by repetition, so lay more emphasis on grammar rules and sentence structure, then build your vocabulary.
You are right bro but learning the vocabulary now is better cos i think it would
Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by Hadampson(m): 1:47pm On Nov 10, 2018
willy2000:



It is good to learn the theoretical part, but to be honest with you. The easiest and best way of learning the language fast is by immersion.
I learnt German in Nigeria to B1 but when I came here, I had no confidence to speak, because you are not taught how to speak fast.
Once you get here the speed the language is used will take you off, but you then have to build confidence over time.
Just my opinion, from experience, too much grammar rules sometimes hinder you from speaking fluently. But each to his own. Learn what works for you and use it.
You learn pronunciation by repetition, so lay more emphasis on grammar rules and sentence structure, then build your vocabulary.



My aim is to be able to read anything written in German. Newspapers, storybooks and other things.

Language is comprises of 4 aspects namely READING, WRITING, LISTENING, and SPEAKING.

I want to be an expert in reading and writing aspect. As for the speaking and listening, i would work on that when i finally escape from Zoogeria and enter my country which is Deutschland cheesy

Thanks for the advice anyways.
Re: Deutsch Lernen Mit Hadampson... Learning German With Hadampson by Hadampson(m): 2:13pm On Nov 10, 2018
Sometimes, i wonder how dem German construct a sentence sef... Take these sentences below for example


Ich Koche dir heute das Essen

Heute Koche ich dir das Essen

dir Koche ich heute das Essen

das Essen Koche ich dir heute


If you look at these sentences, you will see that they all the same meaning. What i don't understand is this? how do they construct sentences?

You know in English language, the sentence pattern goes like this..... Subject + verb + object

The only thing i know that is constant in German sentences is the verb. Verb is always at the 2nd position.

From your experiences and what you understand very well, can you kindly put me through please?

cc: DisturbingEU willy2000

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