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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 11:55am On Nov 19, 2018
rvp2018:
E-commerce is old tech. Amazon is probably 30yrs old.
That is why a shirty Lagos based firm is dominating Kenya
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:56am On Nov 19, 2018
You don't have slums - you entire cities are integrated - slum sit next to massionette next to a flat next to office block - in most kenyan cities - that simply doesn't happen. You see them same in South Africa. Slums are side-effect of well planned cities in developing world.
68816419:
well, no country in Africa that those not have slums, Nigeria makoko slums are mostly inhabited by Togolese and people from Togo, the issue is that Nigeria slums are not really that large in comparison with the population, what we have here is nothing to be compared with what I saw in Nairobi, Nigeria do have old buildings/ancient buildings(Ibadan,kano )and they all have access roads and proper interconnectivity, these buildings major challenge is the types of roofing systems been used back then and may be improper refused management systems.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 11:56am On Nov 19, 2018
rvp2018:
Not anymore. They report to Dubai & France. The CEO seem based in Washington DC.
You are truly mad. Please explain what dey mean by Hq that is placed behind ikeja. You know better than the company

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 11:57am On Nov 19, 2018
rvp2018:
Not anymore. They report to Dubai & France. The CEO seem based in Washington DC.
Provide link or your unborn children will die mysteriously
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:58am On Nov 19, 2018
We have lots of ecommerce sites - and all of them combined - do not make lot of sales - not even 1% of total retail.
darfay:
That is why a shirty Lagos based firm is dominating Kenya
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 11:59am On Nov 19, 2018
rvp2018:
We have lots of ecommerce sites - and all of them combined - do not make lot of sales - not even 1% of total retail.
A Nigerian company is dominating Kenyanis all I care about.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 11:59am On Nov 19, 2018
rvp20182:
Good question. That is mystery.
well I will tell you where they(evicted Kibera slum dwellers) have gone to, they are currently building new slums around Karen and around Westland, buruburu areas,.
With this , do you still believe your aim of achieving a slum free and a better country by the year 2050 can be achieved knowing fully well that the evicted 30000+ former slums dweller would result to arm robbery and prostitution and will also looks for other means of survive by building more slums at other area? do you now believe me when I say "your government is moving 1 step forward( developing Kibera ) and moving 3 steps backwards ( creating new slums in other areas as result of forceful eviction from Kibera, creating more economy burden, creating more hoes and robbers)?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 4kDdullard: 11:59am On Nov 19, 2018
darfay:
That is why a shirty Lagos based firm is dominating Kenya

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 11:59am On Nov 19, 2018
rvp2018:
We have lots of ecommerce sites - and all of them combined - do not make lot of sales - not even 1% of total retail.
List your laggards
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:00pm On Nov 19, 2018
Don't sweat it. Jumia is yet to break 6 yrs since it started. It just burning money. There is nothing to be proud about here. They are probably going to declare bankrupt in the short ran.
darfay:
You are truly mad. Please explain what dey mean by Hq that is placed behind ikeja. You know better than the company
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Iwantslavesgone: 12:00pm On Nov 19, 2018
Yobeezy:
You're uselessly bitter,we day pay taxes here so that our government can cater for our social and economic needs,our recent tax laws have made the taxing to cut across all sectors ranging from telecommunication to petroleum.
Pseudo taxes are also ammended to improve the specific sectors on which taxes are being paid from like rental and housing tax goes towards provision of social and affordable houses as part of government to achieve one of it's big four agenda.
By the way do Nigerians even pay serious taxes?
No! And you're busy talking out of bitterness.
Nigerian taxes don't go to giving useless housing to stupid people who are lazy. Our government is not stupid. Keep on following on the footsteps of useless Zulus even though as an older brother you should be leading, you will end up all living in slums . Daft
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by BlcoChina2018: 12:00pm On Nov 19, 2018
Hahahahahah of course! With boko haram, unmitigated corruption, endemic poverty, unemployment, starvation, bad road, insecurity and violence, kidnappings and armed robberies, baby factories, how can you have my time? Chei, Nigeria we hail una! Fuckeduppedness ������������ una get mouth for nothing. Your country don pafuka! Hahahaha hahahaha I don Dey laugh tire sef!�

darfay:
Oga we don't have your time
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 12:04pm On Nov 19, 2018
rvp2018:
Don't sweat it. Jumia is yet to break 6 yrs since it started. It just burning money. There is nothing to be proud about here. They are probably going to declare bankrupt in the short ran.
As far they are headquartered in Lagos and are the largest of its kind in Africa
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:05pm On Nov 19, 2018
Kilimall should be toe to toe with Jumia in kenya online commerce space - and Safaricom MASOKO probably is even bigger now - Vitumob, pigieme, Olx. In any case I don't see Jumia staying for that long. It's owner Rocket Internet are busy looking for someone to buy it - it made losses every year since it was founded.
darfay:
List your laggards
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 12:10pm On Nov 19, 2018
rvp2018:
Kilimall should be toe to toe with Jumia in kenya online commerce space - and Safaricom MASOKO probably is even bigger now - Vitumob, pigieme, Olx. In any case I don't see Jumia staying for that long. It's owner Rocket Internet are busy looking for someone to buy it - it made losses every year since it was founded.
Kilimall is based in dar er salam.
Olx is not Kenyan
Vitumob is from Ethiopia
Worst of all,all of them all combined isn't up to jumia
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 4kDdullard: 12:16pm On Nov 19, 2018
rvp2018:
Don't sweat it. Jumia is yet to break 6 yrs since it started. It just burning money. There is nothing to be proud about here. They are probably going to declare bankrupt in the short ran.
Oh! U have accepted that the HQ is based in Nigeria now. Efulefu!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:19pm On Nov 19, 2018
rvp20182:
This verbiage is devoid of any facts, evidence or data.On the contrary if you scroll these pages I have clearly shown you with emperical evidence that your GDP is cooked, your service sector way below kenya, and the only thing you got that we don't is OIL.

You remind me a lot about KaziKazi and TZ - generally scrapping the bottom of the barrel - with one or two pictures or link that they keep posting.

1) Tourism. All you got is data from questionable source showing you've got 1.8m internation visitors; maybe unless they counted diaspora Nigeria returning back. Kenya obviously well know tourist destination.We have 3 times the hotel bed you've got. We don't even bother count the number of lodges. There is really no point in debating this.

2) Our agricluture is more than flowers. We are world leading exporter of TEA - third leading exporter of flowers - among leading exporters of vegetables - world leading exporter of several nuts. We export best quality Coffee.

[b]3) Banking. This probably only sector that you finally got right with reforms of the Igbo lady but you're still behind kenya. Our banks are some of most profitable - majority have operations in all East Africa countries including now DRC Congo.

Top 1000 global bankers has 3 of banks in there - you've got 5 banks!
As of 2016 our total banking assets were around 41B dollars - yours around 85B dollars. And yet you've 4 times our population. South Africa with genuine 350B dollar economy has more than 300B dollars in banking asset.


This regional footprint of our banks.

10 Kenyan banks, including the KCB, DTB, Bank of Africa and Equity Bank, operate in other countries in East Africa and South Sudan. Kenyan banks operate 140 branches in Uganda, 96 in Tanzania, 55 in Rwanda, 33 in South Sudan and 9 in Burundi. The biggest cross-border banks are the KCB and DTB with 64 regional branches each. Others include, I&M Bank, with a 50% shareholding in Bank One Mauritius; Prime Bank, with a 22.5% share in First Merchant Bank of Malawi; and Equity Bank, which acquired a subsidiary in Democratic Republic of Congo.[/quote]1. Nigeria Banks leads in the most profitable banks in Africa. We dominated the top 5. Kenya's banks are below the pecking order. grin (see snapshot 1 &2)

2. Lying Kenyan, Only two Kenyan banks made the top 1000 global banks in the world and they were below Nigerian banks. See snapshot 3 &4. grin

I am not done yet. grin

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 4kDdullard: 12:19pm On Nov 19, 2018
darfay:
Kilimall is based in dar er salam.
Olx is not Kenyan
Vitumob is from Ethiopia
Worst of all,all of them all combined isn't up to jumia

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:19pm On Nov 19, 2018
Kilimall in TZ is an actual mall - in Kenya it's e-commerce that should be competing with Jumia and Masoko. Then dozen other small e-commerce sites including vitumob, himall - all of them are struggling to sell anything beyond cheap chinese phones.
darfay:
Kilimall is based in dar er salam.
Olx is not Kenyan
Vitumob is from Ethiopia
Worst of all,all of them all combined isn't up to jumia
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:24pm On Nov 19, 2018
For someone who doesn't know the difference btw revenue and profit I think you're done. This is beyond your paygrade. Kenya has 3 banks in Bankers 1000 - namely KCB, Equity and Co-operative bank. Nigeria has 6 banks -Zenith, FBN, GTbank, Access, UBA & Diamond.Our banks have for a long time been GLOBAL (leave africa) most profitable banks.
forgiveness:
1. Nigeria Banks leads in the most profitable banks in Africa. We dominated the top 5. Kenya's banks are below the pecking order. grin (see snapshot 1 &2)

2. Lying Kenyan, Only two Kenyan banks made the top 1000 global banks in the world and they were below Nigerian banks. See snapshot 3 &4. grin

I am not done yet. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 12:25pm On Nov 19, 2018
68816419:
well even in worst slums u still find 0.1% nice place ...
You used to say you live in Kenya. The fact that you can rank Buruburu and Mihango as slums tells you've never been to Kenya. Those two estates can easily be high end neighborhoods in Ibadan.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:31pm On Nov 19, 2018
68816419:
well, no country in Africa that those not have slums, Nigeria makoko slums are mostly inhabited by Togolese and people from Togo, the issue is that Nigeria slums are not really that large in comparison with the population, what we have here is nothing to be compared with what I saw in Nairobi, Nigeria do have old buildings/ancient buildings(Ibadan,kano )and they all have access roads and proper interconnectivity, these buildings major challenge is the types of roofing systems been used back then and may be improper refused management systems.
what you saw in nairobi is being corrected and somehow you exaggerated the whole situation first mathare cannot hold 500k people even the largest slum kibera cannot it ranges btwn 170k-250k i have told you to read about kibera missing numbers those are NGOs trying to steal from international donors who post such numbers to get more funding and anyway our govt today is doing slum upgrading projects go kibera today and mathare who will see what is happening even our slums have 24hr electricity and water schools and hospitals and buruburu is not a slum just Google buruburu now it is an middle class estate
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:35pm On Nov 19, 2018
rvp20182:
This verbiage is devoid of any facts, evidence or data.On the contrary if you scroll these pages I have clearly shown you with emperical evidence that your GDP is cooked, your service sector way below kenya, and the only thing you got that we don't is OIL.

You remind me a lot about KaziKazi and TZ - generally scrapping the bottom of the barrel - with one or two pictures or link that they keep posting.

1) Tourism. All you got is data from questionable source showing you've got 1.8m internation visitors; maybe unless they counted diaspora Nigeria returning back. Kenya obviously well know tourist destination.We have 3 times the hotel bed you've got. We don't even bother count the number of lodges. There is really no point in debating this.

2) Our agricluture is more than flowers. We are world leading exporter of TEA - third leading exporter of flowers - among leading exporters of vegetables - world leading exporter of several nuts. We export best quality Coffee.

3) Banking. This probably only sector that you finally got right with reforms of the Igbo lady but you're still behind kenya. Our banks are some of most profitable - majority have operations in all East Africa countries including now DRC Congo.

Top 1000 global bankers has 3 of banks in there - you've got 5 banks!

As of 2016 our total banking assets were around 41B dollars - yours around 85B dollars. And yet you've 4 times our population. South Africa with genuine 350B dollar economy has more than 300B dollars in banking asset.


This regional footprint of our banks.

10 Kenyan banks, including the KCB, DTB, Bank of Africa and Equity Bank, operate in other countries in East Africa and South Sudan. Kenyan banks operate 140 branches in Uganda, 96 in Tanzania, 55 in Rwanda, 33 in South Sudan and 9 in Burundi. The biggest cross-border banks are the KCB and DTB with 64 regional branches each. Others include, I&M Bank, with a 50% shareholding in Bank One Mauritius; Prime Bank, with a 22.5% share in First Merchant Bank of Malawi; and Equity Bank, which acquired a subsidiary in Democratic Republic of Congo.
That's why your banks are still local champions. grin

They don't have brand value because none of them are listed in the top 500 banking brand in the world neither among the top 50 countries in the world in this category. grin

But Nigeria has 5 banks and was rated 42 best banking brand in the world. See snapshot 1 &2. grin

Who dash Kenya? cheesy

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:35pm On Nov 19, 2018
NairobiWalker:
You used to say you live in Kenya. The fact that you can rank Buruburu and Mihango as slums tells you've never been to Kenya. Those two estates can easily be high end neighborhoods in Ibadan.
you should post pictures of buruburu and mihango for them to see they have not told us what buhari govt is doing to eradicate slums in Nigeria
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 12:36pm On Nov 19, 2018
rvp2018:
Kilimall in TZ is an actual mall - in Kenya it's e-commerce that should be competing with Jumia and Masoko. Then dozen other small e-commerce sites including vitumob, himall - all of them are struggling to sell anything beyond cheap chinese phones.
Stop claiming kilimall, it is a Tz achievement

Wetin be masoko? Isn't that a Ugandan cosmetics shop

Jumia(Naija) still dominates your housing

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 4kDdullard: 12:41pm On Nov 19, 2018
darfay:
Stop claiming kilimall, it is a Tz achievement

Wetin be masoko? Isn't that a Ugandan cosmetics shop

Jumia(Naija) still dominates your housing

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ChimaAdeoye: 12:50pm On Nov 19, 2018
jaycent:
You're a big fool I swear? who's Afonja and what's the meaning of Afonja? see am a igbo by tribe if you don't know, know it now? I hate tribalism. useless? instead of you to join hand and end tribalism in Nigeria, you're here insulting the yoruba's for nothing? useless Nigerian?
YOU ARE A BLOODY BASTERD!

Who told you I'm Igbo, if not your warped tribalistic Nigerian mindset that think anyone that begs to differ isn't from your tribe?

Where did i mention YORUBA in my entire post? IS AFONJA SAME AS YORUBA?

Bloody Nigerians preaching against tribalism,yet their dark fickle minds are full of hate. I have googled all Statistics posted by the Kenyans here. See how Kenyans are dishing verifiable statistics here, all you are thinking about is your hatred for Igbo- and posting fake unverifiable trash for Nigeria?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:52pm On Nov 19, 2018
ChimaAdeoye:
YOU ARE A BLOODY BASTERD!

Who told you I'm Igbo, if not your warped tribalistic Nigerian mindset that think anyone that begs to differ isn't from your tribe?

Where did i mention YORUBA in my entire post? IS AFONJA SAME AS YORUBA?

Bloody Nigerians preaching against tribalism,yet their dark fickle minds are full of hate. I have googled all Statistics posted by the Kenyans here. See how Kenyans are dishing verifiable statistics here, all you are thinking about is your hatred for Igbo- and posting fake unverifiable trash for Nigeria?
Which facts are they posting?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 4kDdullard: 12:53pm On Nov 19, 2018
Mumu Kenyans! Una don go regroup but we cld degrade and decimate una.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 4kDdullard: 12:55pm On Nov 19, 2018
ChimaAdeoye:
YOU ARE A BLOODY BASTERD!

Who told you I'm Igbo, if not your warped tribalistic Nigerian mindset that think anyone that begs to differ isn't from your tribe?

Where did i mention YORUBA in my entire post? IS AFONJA SAME AS YORUBA?

Bloody Nigerians preaching against tribalism,yet their dark fickle minds are full of hate. I have googled all Statistics posted by the Kenyans here. See how Kenyans are dishing verifiable statistics here, all you are thinking about is your hatred for Igbo- and posting fake unverifiable trash for Nigeria?
una wan carri una mumu dirty lenen come wash for where mumu kenyans dey? Abeg make una respect unasef
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 12:55pm On Nov 19, 2018
Jumia doesn't own any estates in Kenya.I thought you should know that! For you to say that an online platform dominates the Kenya's housing sector is just so so foolish!

Might as well go google the meaning of the word "dominate"
darfay:
Stop claiming kilimall, it is a Tz achievement

Wetin be masoko? Isn't that a Ugandan cosmetics shop

Jumia(Naija) still dominates your housing

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