₦airaland Forum

helinues:
Then you are not facing the reality. Others will never allow Biafra's to go unless everybody is ready to go on their separate ways. Should Biafra separate, there would be no Nigeria.
Nigeria as an entity has so many advantages.

efighter:
Stop lying, you are suffering. If not, you will stay in your Biafran region of drugs and crime and not litter all round the country. If your region is good, why did you jump into the next available trailer taking cows to Lagos when Fashola abducted and dumped you at Upper Iweka bridge head at 2:00AM?

izzou:
From your comment, the unrest, hate speeches, killings and other atrocities can never end.

If you feel they have be sidelined because they refused to build whatever bridge you guys are talking about, then I see no reason why they should be forced to stay

Let them go. The North and the West will take turns in ruling each other. There wouldn't be any need for a third party.

Just conduct a simple referendum. They might even lose it in the process

helinues:
Referendum with SE or Nigeria in General?

izzou:
For the South East only

Just like Catalonia and Spain

UK and European Union

helinues:
And if 90% of people say yes, house of assembly and senate will still need to vote. That's where the problem lies..

izzou:
What part of the constitution can that be found?

90% of a group choose an option, and you say it doesn't count?

helinues:
Catalonia should have been an independent country long time time if that's your assertion. If not a war, seceding peacefully is not real

izzou:
And USSR seceeded through war Abi?

I really do not blame the Igbos when they insult other tribes, feel superior and throw hate speeches here and there

You know why? Because Nigeria won't let them go

Let them go.

I can understand the fact the politicians won't allow this because of their selfish interests. But I don't know why you can't see the better picture. It's a win-win for both groups

helinues:
Then you are not facing the reality. Others will never allow Biafra's to go unless everybody is ready to go on their separate ways. Should Biafra separate, there would be no Nigeria.
Nigeria as an entity has so many advantages.

chiagozien:
you mean without igbos there is no nigeria?

izzou:


If they transform to a political party and then get to power in year whatever, and then eventually conduct the referendum, what's the difference?

I don't support bullying or disrespect, but if Nkechi disrespects or insults Rashidi, the sensible option for Rashidi is to part ways with Nkechi, instead of forcing Nkechi to respect him, which isn't working

I'm Igbo. I love Nigeria and i love my tribe. But I'll rather let them go and let peace reign than allowing everywhere to be heated up

No need to form any political party. Conduct a referendum and the outcome decides their fate

Stop making it look like Nigeria cannot stand without them

cc:helinues

helinues:
Because Nigerians won't let them go shouldn't give them the audacity to abuse others. Respect is reciprocal

USSR seceeded without a war cos so many groups and internal/external factors were involved most especially the influence of Usa.

I have no problem with you guys having Biafra infact you guys have really suffered a lot under one Nigeria though others also have the fair share of the suffering . I am only saying the reality about how to achieve it.

See my advise is Ipobs should transform into a political group. By 2023, they should be matured enough to play regional politics. You guys don't need presidency so forget about national politics. If you elect credible candidate from councillor, local government chairman, house of assembly, reps, senate and governors, even if you are still under Nigeria, genuine plans will be going underground on how to achieve Biafra. Even this take years

If it is no Biafra no election, then you guys are on a long thing .

I have so many SE friends and we get along. Majority of the hatred between SE and SW are only on internet. In the real world, Rashidi is planning to weds Nkechi next weekend.

helinues:
The difference is time factor and only IF approached in a sensible way

Warship:
You are not truly educated.

Forcing yourself on a people is pure inferiority complex and that is why Biafra will be greater than Nigeria and other republics that will arise out of Nigeria.

helinues:
To the politicians . Average Nigerians do not care about Biafra. Forget about all the online rant, after all they are not the one holding Biafra not to come to a reality nor be the one to decide at house of reps or senate

helinues:
To the politicians . Average Nigerians do not care about Biafra. Forget about all the online rant, after all they are not the one holding Biafra not to come to a reality nor be the one to decide at house of reps or senate

helinues:
Who cares about Biafra? Is achieving Biafra going to stop me from being successful in life?
Inferiority complex my foot.
Remove the logs in your eyes. You guys are the one forcing your self on Nigeria. If your region is as developed as you guys claimed on internet, why are you trooping en mass to other region.
If afonj.a are so bad that all what they know is skull mining, why are your people trooping here with the next available ABC bus, beans trailer to SW if there are no goodies.

We wish you all the best in achieving your Biafra but please count SW out of people who do not want you people to get it.

We don't drink Panadol on someone's headache.

We get better thing to worry about.

izzou:
To conduct a referendum is insensible? But to form a political party and get to power in decades is sensible Abi?

You were typing so well in the beginning. Don't ruin it abeg

helinues:
Do you have an idea what it takes to conduct a recognised referendum? Before they can even pass the bill of considering whether to allow referendum or not, it will take like a year. Let assume majority vote yes, the preparation to conduct the referendum will take another year( more like proper election, after the referendum let assuming the result is yes majority, new bills will be sent to house to make final decisions. That's another year, if majority of them also say yes( which is not certain/visible), they can now decide when Biafra will leave. Optimism

Realism, the process will take more than 6 years. That's 2 government. Even if any Nigeria president wants to consider referendum for SE, it ought to be after winning his second term election and that can't be in his plan the next 2 years in second term .

New government, new policy. We all saw what happened to CONFAB

izzou:


If they transform to a political party and then get to power in year whatever, and then eventually conduct the referendum, what's the difference?

I don't support bullying or disrespect, but if Nkechi disrespects or insults Rashidi, the sensible option for Rashidi is to part ways with Nkechi, instead of forcing Nkechi to respect him, which isn't working

I'm Igbo. I love Nigeria and i love my tribe. But I'll rather let them go and let peace reign than allowing everywhere to be heated up

No need to form any political party. Conduct a referendum and the outcome decides their fate

Stop making it look like Nigeria cannot stand without them

cc:helinues

SIRTee15:
But Nigeria cant conduct referendum on a people who hasn't OFFICIALLY asked for one.....
There has to be a political force in the SE calling for this referendum....
Nigeria has to sit with some political figures from SE to draft the terms of referendum and agree on the outcome.....
Or else the whole exercise will just be purely academic and may end up like the Catalonian case....
That's the reason why some advocate that a pro secession political group has to hijack the political positions in SE....
Your present leaders are out of it, they will simply throw u guys under the bus.....
A new pro referendum force has to come in and take over...

My guy, u sound intelligent.....
secession is not easy as IPOB makes it look.....
It's hard work and requires years of careful planning, meticulous process, strategic agitation and strong political will from the region to make it happen.....

I'm not against any group leaving Nigeria as the country itself is evidently a failed experiment and an embarrassment to the black race....
However, a unilateral action of referendum or secession either by Nigeria or SE region just won't cut it in today's world where vested interest differs.....
If it's not formal, the foreign powers will not recognize the new nation.....
Remember, this people want a Nigeria that's big but useless and incompetent, thus easily exploited.....
That's their own vested interest and will find every excuse to keep it that way.....
And I'm sure the last thing u want is to have your new country but still have to travel out with a Nigerian passport.....

izzou:
I really am not a political person, but I know Tinubu is not stupid.

You think Tinubu is so stupid to labor for all these, and if Buhari finishes, he will hand it to an Igbo man in 2023?

The truth is after 2023, the West will take over till 2031
That's 12 years from now.

Now your 6 years estimation is better isn't it?

I'm not arguing with you to prove a point. I'm talking to you as a Nigerian who's pained about what this country is turning into

Conduct a referendum.Let it take how long it wants to.

Peace is very paramount. If the north and west can live peacefully, it's fine

helinues:
No two other option than to transform Ipobs or whatever group into one political party. And with that, it will still take years to even decide on referendum. Apart from the war, no region is having it better under one Nigeria. We are all locked together in a country where Monkey dey work Bamboo dey chop. How about how FG is treating their source of income, SS.
If you have ever been to North, then you will be grateful about your region even upon the war. The north are cursed but they don't know. How many years have they been killing themselves all in the name of BH and herdsmen. Karma is real to those who don't believe in it.

About Tinubu
A journey of thousand miles begins with a step. Tinubu knew this and build a dynasty. When last did he occupies any political post but still relevant, not just relevant, no politician in Nigeria is in the same category with Jagaban. See nobody worships Tinubu down SW, just that his leadership has brought so many goodies to his people.

And let me ask, when are you guys going to stop blaming everybody except yourself. When are you start blaming your leaders and politicians for enriching themselves and cronies but neglect the masses. Abia has been under one party, any development? Your leaders/Politicians are your real enemy. What do you think will happen if PDP goons set their eyes on NK?

izzou:
I think I'll have to end our discussion

Read from the beginning and see if your last comment tallies with what we have been discussing

You just missed the point.

Take care bro

IbrahimDamola:
Continue to fool yourself if you think yorubas can reap from the rift between the East and North.
When the war ended and wounds were still fresher Awolowo thought the same but was dealt a heavy blow by the Shagari + Ekwueme.

We yoruba keep deluding ourselves, we are too emotional. Let Osibade come our for presidency in 2023, e go shock una.

IbrahimDamola:
Continue to fool yourself if you think yorubas can reap from the rift between the East and North.
When the war ended and wounds were still fresher Awolowo thought the same but was dealt a heavy blow by the Shagari + Ekwueme.

We yoruba keep deluding ourselves, we are too emotional. Let Osibade come our for presidency in 2023, e go shock una.

izzou:
Stop belittling yourself

Ganduje has enough $$$ to go round

IbrahimDamola:
Continue to fool yourself if you think yorubas can reap from the rift between the East and North.
When the war ended and wounds were still fresher Awolowo thought the same but was dealt a heavy blow by the Shagari + Ekwueme.

We yoruba keep deluding ourselves, we are too emotional. Let Osibade come our for presidency in 2023, e go shock una.

fk001:
Whenever I see the bolded in your comment it makes me as if to strangle you

Although I am not Yoruba..