Abuheekmat:



only a foolish person Will debate with a kafir. even the best human being to walk the � never did have debate with kafir

Ofcos your so called best human being doesn't debate with kafir because he knows his beliefs are full of shenanigans.

He prefer killing them.

Abuheekmat:



only a foolish person Will debate with a kafir. even the best human being to walk the � never did have debate with kafir

Maybe you can't debate because you know Islam has no validity outside of your bubble

lanrexlan:
You keep clinging to this weak rope and committing fallacy. Your father might be a sheikh of Islamic studies, that's not tantamount to you knowing what he knows. Prophet Nuh was a messenger, yet his kid NEVER benefited from his knowledge nor guidance.
We know sheikhs of the highest order whose kids are shame to them. These kids know nothing as regards to the deen. (May Allah guide them and us)

Knowledge is acquired by learning and studying, it is NEVER inherited. Stop hiding under this "My father is this, my dad is that".

this is a tactic used by so called former Muslims or "Muslim experts" who are now Christians, according to them. The same was used by "bonsue Fuji" man Ayuba. "My father is a sheikh" as if he and his father will be buried in the same grave.

Nonsense.

^^^^^^^@tintingz, I won't bother replying your post. You are so so dishonest with yourself. If you can't be sincere with yourself, how can you be sincere with others?! Inna Lilah wa Inna Ilahi Rajiun.

You made a grammatical blunder in Arabic by saying "I am a proud Kuffar" instead of "I am a proud Kafir". I pointed out that to you, perhaps you might give yourself the excuse of a typographical error or forgetfulness, yet you remain adamant, clinging tightly to the rope of "I have some knowledge of Arabic", "My father is a sheikh, know where I am coming from" and spewing unfounded claims. SubhanAllah!!!

Seriously, this is ridiculously ridiculous. If you can't differentiate between simple مفرد (singular) and جمع (plural), don't know when to apply them and still claimed that "The difference between them is pronunciation and they boils down to the same thing", then which Arabic knowledge are you claiming to possess?! La hawla wala quwata illa billah.


Discussion with you will always be fruitless until you decide to be sincere with yourself. Drop this mantle of pride and arrogance towards the truth, stop being proud of this mediocre knowledge, be sincere to know, discuss to add to your arsenal of knowledge and not to win or be the last man standing in the discussion.

I leave you with the poem of Ibn Yamin that says One who knows and knows that he knows… His horse of wisdom will reach the skies. One who knows, but doesn’t know that he knows… He is fast asleep, so you should wake him up! One who doesn’t know, but knows that he doesn’t know… His limping mule will eventually get him home. One who doesn’t know and doesn’t know that he doesn’t know… He will be eternally lost in his hopeless oblivion!

Allah's aid is sought.

Empiree:
this is a tactic used by so called former Muslims or "Muslim experts" who are now Christians, according to them. The same was used by "bonsue Fuji" man Ayuba. "My father is a sheikh" as if he and his father will be buried in the same grave.

Nonsense.

I learnt the guy is now a Christian. The argument is just weak. Even if your father is a sheikh and you failed to follow his footpaths, you won't gain anything. It is one thing to be born a Muslim, it is another thing to seek the conviction of being a Muslim. The way and how you seek for conviction with your sincerity will determine the output.

lanrexlan:
^^^^^^^@tintingz, I won't bother replying your post. You are so so dishonest with yourself. If you can't be sincere with yourself, how can you be sincere with others?! Inna Lilah wa Inna Ilahi Rajiun.

You made a grammatical blunder in Arabic by saying "I am a proud Kuffar" instead of "I am a proud Kafir". I pointed out that to you, perhaps you might give yourself the excuse of a typographical error or forgetfulness, yet you remain adamant, clinging tightly to the rope of "I have some knowledge of Arabic", "My father is a sheikh, know where I am coming from" and spewing unfounded claims. SubhanAllah!!!

Seriously, this is ridiculously ridiculous. If you can't differentiate between simple مفرد (singular) and جمع (plural), don't know when to apply them and still claimed that "The difference between them is pronunciation and they boils down to the same thing", then which Arabic knowledge are you claiming to possess?! La hawla wala quwata illa billah.

This are just strawman.

Again, whatever the word is still boils down to "unbelieve".

Secondly, it doesn't make your religion true!

Discussion with you will always be fruitless until you decide to be sincere with yourself. Drop this mantle of pride and arrogance towards the truth, stop being proud of this mediocre knowledge, be sincere to know, discuss to add to your arsenal of knowledge and not to win or be the last man standing in the discussion.

Again, what is the truth?

No one is all knowledgeable, your psychological projection is alarming.

I leave you with the poem of Ibn Yamin that says One who knows and knows that he knows… His horse of wisdom will reach the skies. One who knows, but doesn’t know that he knows… He is fast asleep, so you should wake him up! One who doesn’t know, but knows that he doesn’t know… His limping mule will eventually get him home. One who doesn’t know and doesn’t know that he doesn’t know… He will be eternally lost in his hopeless oblivion!

Ignorance doesn't equate hopelessness.

Allah's aid is sought.

I learnt the guy is now a Christian. The argument is just weak. Even if your father is a sheikh and you failed to follow his footpaths, you won't gain anything. It is one thing to be born a Muslim, it is another thing to seek the conviction of being a Muslim. The way and how you seek for conviction with your sincerity will determine the output.

Lol, if you're indoctrinated or brainwashed everything about your religion will make sense even with dishonesty.

Why is a Christian a Christian, why is an Hindu an Hindu, why is a Jew a Jew, why aren't you a Jew or a Taoist? Society and family mostly determines your beliefs, if everyone are left to choose thier beliefs without brainwashing what makes you think you will be a Muslim?

Those that converts to another religion did it for personal reasons, agenda, conviction etc it doesn't make any of it true.

The bolded is totally false.

Religious people use this reverse psychology projection and excuses when someone abandon his/her faith, they are quick to project the person as someone who's having emotional issues, who lack knowledge of the religion, who is not a devoted person.

This is fallacy and nonsensical!

tintingz:
The Quran is word of Arab man/men.

Just like every other mythical books existing in other religions and cultures.

I taught you are a muslim. Have you left islam?

najib632:
I don't believe you for saying this statement especially this phrase -"bad scientific approach"

Maybe you should go and read his old post on Nairaland, like 3 to 4 years ago. The guy has really 'ported' either to atheism or Kiriyo.

true2god:
Maybe you should go and read his old post on Nairaland, like 3 to 4 years ago. The guy has really 'ported' either to atheism or Kiriyo.

what about you, you aren't becoming Muslim yet?

true2god:
I taught you are a muslim. Have you left islam?

Yes

Abuheekmat:
whoever is replying this kafir guy is making jest of islam. . just leave him to his dolal.

The guy is making so much sense; don't be afraid of holding a divergent view that is strange to your traditional belief system. We learn everyday and I can tell you that modern human are far more knowledgeable that the 7th century Arabian folks. Smell the coffee bro, more people are 'wizing' up to the Arabian frauds and brainwashing.

Empiree:
what about you, you aren't becoming Muslim yet?

I am already a Nairaland muslim because I have to say the shahada before I can sign in to this section; outside Nairaland, I remain a kufar. Thanks bro!

true2god:
I am already a Nairaland muslim because I have to say the shahada before I can sign in to this section; outside Nairaland, I remain a kufar. Thanks bro!

Alhamdululah, and try to improve your offline shahada. Perhaps, God may give you full reward.

Empiree:
Alhamdululah, and try to improve your offline shahada. Perhaps, God may give you full reward.

You don't get the sarcasm.

Empiree:
Alhamdululah, and try to improve your offline shahada. Perhaps, God may give you full reward.

I already have a full reward as a kafir: a nice car, good apartment and a beautiful young lady. I just have to keep thanking God for his love and mercy over a kafir like me, including all my kafir friends who are all doing great in the US. Thanks bro!

tintingz:
You don't get the sarcasm.

How about you leave me and him alone to keep deceiving ourselves?. Na you go tell me it is sarcasm

true2god:
I already have a full reward as a kafir: a nice car, good apartment and a beautiful young lady. I just have to keep thanking God for his love and mercy over a kafir like me, including all my kafir friends who are all doing great in the US. Thanks bro!

Is this definition of reward according to your bible? These verses certainly seem to indicate that your full rewards are in heaven and vary according to how you live your live here on earth:

“…each one’s work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. 14 If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward” (1 Corinthians 3:13-14 ESV).

“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil” (2 Corinthians 5:10 ESV).


But you are talking about earthly rewards which Jesus condemned. Mark 8:36KJV


"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?"

Empiree:
Is this definition of reward according to your bible? These verses certainly seem to indicate that your full rewards are in heaven and vary according to how you live your live here on earth:

“…each one’s work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. 14 If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward” (1 Corinthians 3:13-14 ESV).

“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil” (2 Corinthians 5:10 ESV).


But you are talking about earthly rewards which Jesus condemned. Mark 8:36KJV


"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?"

Seek ye first money, power and wealth and all other things will be added unto you. Live a good and happy life while earth, you never know what lies in the world beyond. Obey your parents and do good to your fellow human beings, be in muslims, christians, atheist etc.

Leave judgement to God; stride for a happy life and a successful future.

true2god:
Seek ye first money, power and wealth and all other things will be added unto you. Live a good and happy life while earth, you never know what lies in the world beyond. Obey your parents and do good to your fellow human beings, be in muslims, christians, atheist etc.

Leave judgement to God; stride for a happy life and a successful future.

you literally ran away from your own bible quotes

Empiree:
you literally ran away from your own bible quotes

If you say so. The Yorubas will say: 'Soji aye eee'

true2god:
If you say so. The Yorubas will say: 'Soji aye eee'

You dey deny your Jesus small small. Soji ko, sun lo ni

We ask Allaah never to inflict us with what these (Kuffar) have been inflicted with!

Rashduct4luv:
We ask Allaah never to inflict us with what these (Kuffar) have been inflicted with!

Lol, this is delusion.