Malocity:
The Best thing to happen here is let the person in doubt of the reality of hell just die and pls tell God you only left to confirm Hell.

After then, when you wake just tell us on this tread what you saw and we shall believe you.

Kpakam!

Dami12345:


Try reading the posts on the religion threads, they will help.

Have you finished reading your bible. You should, both the old and new testament.

Are there things about God that feel weird?

On the hell fire thing,
It seems a God who can do anything, wouldn't bother to create an hell fire, he could just unmake the bad souls right.

Why stop there, why not destroy the source of all evil once and for all.
But that brings another question, if God created the devil and the devil became bad, how is it possible for God who is everything and can do anything , to make something and it becomes evil .

Does this mean there is another entity out there that has power on par with God and can corrupt his works?

Or is God the embodiment of good and evil?

This a few to think on.

LordReed:


And how do you know there is a god to see after death?

johnydon22:
Many Christian sects believe in a literal place of perpetual burning and punishment for those who fail to do the will of God in this life or simply didn't believe in God or maybe just not found in the book of life.

Now, most justice systems employs punishment. For this to make sense, a punishment is required to be in some way proportional to the crime committed.

A murderer is killed or sentenced to life imprinsonment.

When a punishment exceeds a crime, it fails to be justice.

When a punishment is less than a crime, it also fails to be justice, we call that mercy.

Life on earth ends at 70 on average, hell is perpetual.

Trillions of years is only but a blink.

what is the morality behind the punishment of hell?

Can a just God punish a finite transgression with an infinite punishment and still be termed just?

mujahid777:

Sometimes atheists fall guilty to what they accuse theists of...of man creating God in mans image.

LordReed:


And how do you know there is a god to see after death?

Malocity:


That's why I say someone should try and die to wake again. Then tell us what you saw.

johnydon22:


I do not think this is as effective as you make it appear. They are literally hundreds of people who claimed to have died and gone to either heaven or hell.

How many of them do you believe?

LordReed:


Why don't you volunteer.

Malocity:


I have not heard about much of them, just few like two, and they tell lies. We have very few cases where people go to hell and are saved by Jesus so as to return back vis versa.

Let's gist a bit privately. 08035694634...

johnydon22:


Why do you think you won't still regard mine as a lie if I happen to do it?

Malocity:



My Brother this is strong. I believe there is hell and heaven oh. So I no wan do that experiment go stupidly land for hell. Lolz

LordReed:


So you are not even sure where you would land, why?

Malocity:


It's suicide...and punishable by hell. Taking your own life.

Malocity:


It's suicide...and punishable by hell. Taking your own life.

LordReed:


Revelation 14
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Revelation 20
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Dantedasz:


This woman claims God regularly invites her to heaven and she has made an industry out of selling descriptions of heaven to her followers.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3vmwlaobSw

Thanks man. It was an amazing experience.
I believe her.





It shows you don't have to die before you can visit heaven because she has been visiting heaven for over 10 years according to her.

Malocity:


I have read much about the operations of hell and heaven. So I know when one is saying the truth or not.

God has been faithful.

DoctorAlien:


I hold my belief even with the knowledge of these verses. And I believe that my belief about the judgment of the wicked occupies a position of harmony between these verses you quoted and the other verses talking about the matter in the Bible. Jude v.7 is an example of such other verse.

johnydon22:


If you believe some part of the scriptures and not the others, it is not the scripture you believe but yourself.

~Saint Augustine

Dantedasz:


So you believe someone can just bodily fly to heaven and meet God and Jesus and be conducted on a tour of heaven and then return to Earth to spread the gospel??

johnydon22:
And so far, none has been saying the truth. Innit?

DoctorAlien:


I hold my belief even with the knowledge of these verses. And I believe that my belief about the judgment of the wicked occupies a position of harmony between these verses you quoted and the other verses talking about the matter in the Bible. Jude v.7 is an example of such other verse.

LordReed:


Ah yes, the bible doesn't mean what it says, it means what you say. LMFAO!

DoctorAlien:


If that is what you understand from my post, fine.

Malocity:



The was the life of Enoch while he was still on earth before God took him.

Dami12345:


Try reading the posts on the religion threads, they will help.

Have you finished reading your bible. You should, both the old and new testament.

Are there things about God that feel weird?

On the hell fire thing,
It seems a God who can do anything, wouldn't bother to create an hell fire, he could just unmake the bad souls right.

Why stop there, why not destroy the source of all evil once and for all.
But that brings another question, if God created the devil and the devil became bad, how is it possible for God who is everything and can do anything , to make something and it becomes evil .

Does this mean there is another entity out there that has power on par with God and can corrupt his works?

Or is God the embodiment of good and evil?

This a few to think on.

ColdPizzas:


If there is no allowance of the existence for evil how then can good exist? If the beings created by God aren't created with the propensity to commit evil how then can they commit good since good is the antithesis of evil. For good to have value, then evil most be an alternative.

If God destroys evil once and for all, what makes you think that a life devoid of the possibility for evil is one that you'd want to live? If evil doesn't exist and that includes, pain, suffering death, ugliness, wars etc, then how can you appreciate life, happiness, pleasure, beauty and peace?

johnydon22:


What is evil?

Dantedasz:



Hmmm.
So you believe this woman when she says she has been regularly invited to visit heaven by God and Jesus then she returns to Earth?