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Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by Kellibae(f): 3:08pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
KillTheZombies: I love the way u are bashing his skull. Oya take one kiss. 13 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by KillTheZombies: 3:14pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
PaChukwudi44: Or kwakwanso...or Dankwanbo. They want to eat their cakes and have it. Their insult against the East is now playing out right before their eyes. 'Yoruba get sense, other southerners no get' 7 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by KillTheZombies: 3:16pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Kellibae: 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by raumdeuter: 3:17pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
KillTheZombies: Which facts? The lies you wrote up there which were disproved within minutes 3 Likes |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by dreamwords: 3:28pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Parada:Ikwerre is part of igbo, stop dividing igboland. your decietful method ,won't work here ok, Thank you 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by Petersamuel8(m): 4:01pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
so what you saying is that the above mentioned names should continue ruling us? please we better than this |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by Ziggylady(f): 4:10pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
KillTheZombies: Kai you too much!! ...You are really killing the zombies.. A Yoruba President in 2023 is DOA....let the iddiots keep revisiting history and fooling their cone-heads. 10 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by ImperialYoruba: 4:33pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
life2017: Good and intelligent write up. I have some issues with your claims in the bolded. Starting from bottom up... In the list of Top5 diversified economies in the South (non-oil), the top three are in SW. These three, when you look on IGR list for Southern States are Lagos, Ogun and Oyo. So the oil in SS is not a base for our economies in SW. If you shut off the oil today many regions, including your SS, will suffer greatly. In fact doing so will lead to migrant families uprooting from other regions, including SS, and relocating to SW to live because it will be the only place supporting survival. Even as we speak, with oil regularly flowing, SW is indeed the place of hope and secured future against many threats to life in other regions. No place in Nigeria is host to diversified population as much SW is. We host people across the West African States in addition to our own countrymen. When it comes to human rights abuse, security risks, poor economic performance, religious intolerance and other such dramas...we are insulated. Crimes are fought with precision and quickness. All these is possible because of the type of government we run and the calibre of people we put in place to run the administration. In a sense SW is tested every day with all the challenges of social demographics and economic pressure and yet we hold up and produce at even better scale. No other region in Nigeria can match us. Definitely no region in South can stand to us, even the oil producing region, SS. We operate a self developed and independent Think-Tank called DAWN. This development commission strives to integrate and unify purpose for all Yorubas, including those in Kwara and Kogi...but currently focuses on just SW. Their drive is for BEST PRACTICE in governance and COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE for production and excellence. No other development commission in Nigeria is self developed and independent, or focused on integration and excellence. In the oil producing areas, SS, NDDC has been a drain and a waste of resources and missed its target for purpose. Plus it is controlled by the center. Politically, SW builds manpower and resource through mainstream approach and democratize the process of governance from bottom up and top to bottom. We carefully select and put office holders through a capacity test. If they fail we have a process in place to rectify the failure and put a remedy in place. We have a process for multiplying values. We have process for mentoring. We have a mediation program and conflict resolution process. Even though we practice democracy, our approach to humanity and its many issues is through social welfare and support system. So we use democracy as a vehicle to address the many challenges of manpower, production and conflicts. Example of conflict resolution - OPC was an ethnic militant group formed to fight anti-Yoruba forces. It performed successfully and impressively and was able to accomplish its goal. When there was no outside enemy left to fight OPC turned inward to start fighting Yorubas. Our leaders saw this and quickly got involved and turned OPC to a security force and a cultural vanguard. They patrol wards and keep crime at check. In certain challenging and daring operations where the police or military could not go in they partner with OPC and get the job done. OPC has also travelled round the world promoting Yoruba culture. In the SS there are numerous militant groups. They have become the default political drivers. Any SS Governor that defy their order does so at his own risk. When they ordered Okowa of Delta not to negotiate a deal with FG the Governor did as was told. When GEJ was President the Delta militants issued threats left and right. As far as partisan politics goes, how many states in SS are APC? What is your capacity to take SS from PDP and give to APC? Given the just recent poor outing by Jonathan and the bad taste he left in the mouth of many Nigerians who do you have in SS that has undergone rigours of governance and proven ready to lead the nation? SW operates governance on a scale above the FG. SW is a yardstick for true governance in Nigeria. Any region in the South vying for Presidency must produce someone who is at peerage or above, not below, with a government executive in SW. We remain the standard to beat! Nigeria is past the point we will be giving leadership to someone or allowing someone to rule because they have not ruled in past. Every region needs to pull up its bootstraps and show us what capacity they have to take this country to Next Level. Your concern about the cross tension between SW and SE is not convincing. SE does not stand a chance where SW is. Even SS with its oil does not stand a chance. The only benefit of oil is revenue. Oil does not fight crime, oil does not build and improve society, oil does not build manpower and excellence, oil does not accomodate diversity. All these are done with skills and competencies and no region in South can beat SW when it comes to political governance and economic performance....which is the all round criteria we will need our next President to posess. We will not have it in Buhari...but we are prepared to put a Yorubaman there after him because we know what the Yorubas have done and what they can do. We also know what the SS people have not done and cannot do. Im not even going to talk about SE because like I said they are not even a contender on any of the areas and scopes I shared so far. Now, if we were to include oil economy. Again in South, in the Top5 economies SW is there. If we look at total income, oil and non oil, in Top5 income generators, again SW occupy 2 positions. So anyway you cut economy SW is the standard. Anyway you cut politics, SW is the standard. Anyway you cut diversity, SW is the model. Anyway you cut social programs, SW holds the medal. ....and if you look in APC you will see SW is the most successful. Why shouldn't a Yoruba be the President of Nigeria in 2023? 15 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by ImperialYoruba: 4:49pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
raumdeuter: Surugede has found its lost mission. 2 Likes |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by Nobody: 4:50pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
gurnam: Superb response. Where is the mythical Igbo bravery? Since Fashola and Osinbajo have demonstrated the change in Yoruba thinking in the modern age I warned them SW folks now work with ? We will now go after what we want without mincing words. No more political correctness. We helped create APC and played our part in its success at State at federal level and we expect reward for that. Politics 101. Igbo response to the direct and amitious approach of Fashola, Osinbajo and others has been very disappointing. They have not manned up or shown any interest to square up against us. Instead, like those accustomed to losing, they have lamely gone around saying they will not run and will be happy for the North to field a candidate they will then get behind to defeat us. In short they are not interested in something as transformational as the Presidency and would rather focus vengefully on doing anything that impedes the success of the Yorubas who are now showing ambition and a united focus. How incredibly cowardly and defeatist. Whatever happens in 2023 at least Yorubas are showing Liver and I know doing this will always be feared and rewarded by others unlike where Igbos , with their cowardice, have put themselves. Others don't even have minimal regard for them because all Nigeria can now see that Igbos don't respect nor act as if they believe in themselves. They are now seen as a "food is ready" group alwayd waiting to eat without taking part in the cooking process. Sad. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by BillGoldberg: 4:52pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Atimes I wonder why my Igbo brothers engage this low lives. Thats usually our problem. We already know that these people mistrust us. So the least we can do is to frustrate any Yoruba presidency by playing politics of necessity. How do we do it? We all know that Igbo presidency is not a do or die affair like its for the Yorubas. The Igbos just need a standard play ground for all to prosper. Either that or give us our country. Now what is the Politics of necessity am talking about? Igbos will be commiting a political suicide by presenting a candidate in 2023 to compete against a Yoruba man in 2023. The smart thing to do is to play politics of necessity. Simply field another Northern candidate like Kwankwaso or Tambuwal with A south South VP like Wike or South East VP like Obi or Ekweremmadu! Voila! There goes the Yoruba dreams of having a President chosen by them! The aim here is to frustrate Yoruba presidency. So give another 8 years to the North! Shey na only them sabi backstabbing? 19 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by BillGoldberg: 4:57pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Oshigun: Your stuppid blackmail will not work. We already have your antidote. We already know that because of Biafra issue, many tribes will be skeptical of an Igbo presidency. So the least we can do is to frustrate any attempt by you guys to get the presidency through the backdoor! You guys did it to Jonathan in 2015 abi? You signed a pact with the North and betrayed the South. Your reward is coming in hot and sweet. What happened to Abiola will be child's play to what Osibunjo or Fashole will suffer in the South. Your only play is to have the North support you guys which I know will never happen. Igbos will simply sacrifice their turn to get revenge at what you guys did. Its nothing about defeatist. Its simply politics of necessity. Osibunjo won't even get 1% in the whole East and South. What you guys did to Obi will be childs play compared to what that fake pastor will suffer. 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by Nobody: 5:01pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
BillGoldberg: Read my post above yours to know Yorubas have worked you out and we are miles ahead of you. You literally confirmed what I said which is that Igbo focus is to frustrate Yorubas and not to try and do what is necessary to gain the chance to lead Nigeria. As it is now, it is for the south to duke out 2023 but you cowards have given up already and are now limiting your 2023 engagement to be about frustrating Yoruba ambition. How tragic for you. We build bridges and engage the North because we understand negotiating in life is important as no man is an Island and that you can't go it alone. You lot are now acting like slaves of the North with your defeatist attitude of licking their shoes because you believe no one can lead Nigeria other than Hausa/Fulani. Watch Yorubas, a people who don't give up and don't believe in cheaply riding on the back of others, prove you wrong as we have done before and will continue to do. 8 Likes |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by ImperialYoruba: 5:03pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
BillGoldberg: Why wait till 2023 to do that? We have been telling you long before the PDP primary in PH what we intend to do in 2023. Your Kwara god, Saraki even declared publicly to you that Tinubu is scheming to be President after Buhari. Did you not hear him? Now, to show how politically naive you Ibos are. After knowing Yoruba will go for 2023...you gave all your delegate votes to Atiku. Now you are crying....buyer's remorse! Was Tambuwal not a candidate in the PH primary, or you didnt see his teeth? How about Kwankwaso, did you mistake his red hat for an Iboman? If you like sef line up behind IBB for president and put Ekweremadu as VP na you go still lose. See how you already commited errors and lost 2019 before the polls have even started counting. Here...keep this, the numbers will change for 2023 but the rankings will be same. 3 Likes
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Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by BillGoldberg: 5:08pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Oshigun: Cheap Clap trap. Did you read through your comment and see how stuppid you sound? You guys served the North as slaves in 2015 in a bid to get the Presidency abi? Now what makes you think we can't build same "bridges" you guys purportedly built? So when the Yolobas fooolishly gave the North their vote in 2015, it wasn't lickin their shoes? But if Igbos try it, it becomes slavery? Tell me why a special thunder from Mali mixed with a Little lighting from Ethiopia will not destroy your flaccid akpa amu? Its not anythinh defeatist bro. Its just necessity. We are not duking anything out with you people. Drag it in APC with the fooolish Igbos there. We already know the APC deal. Our own deal is simply Kwankwaso and Peter Obi! Am aware this combo will send shivers down your scrotal sac... But cry me a river bro. Its a done deal. We are not contesting and the Yorubas are not getting it either. 9 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by BillGoldberg: 5:12pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
ImperialYoruba: Forget all those figures Oke. Just wait till 2023. The average Hausa okada rider will not attend a mosque a Yoruba man is an Imam not to talk of having one as President. Let's not talk too much. My vote is for Atiku... Pending the command Nnamdi Kanu gives. If he says no election... Then bye bye to the Fulani man! Butbif he says vote, I will vote Atiku hands down! Now come 2023, PDP will will field Tambuwal. Please field your Osibanjo and meet us at the Playing field. E go dawn for your eyes soon! 7 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by ImperialYoruba: 5:13pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
BillGoldberg: In this country Nigeria, Yoruba is number 1. In the South, Yoruba is number 1. SS comes behind us. SE comes last. When we talk about society and humanities, our debate with Ibo is non merited because you are not even at a level and scale we should engage. This majority thing that gave you third majority is really a bad outcome generally for everybody. You are the wrong majority in Nigeria. 4 Likes |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by ImperialYoruba: 5:18pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
BillGoldberg: Lol. Tambuwal and Kwankwaso are not d0mb. They see that Atiku has Ibo behind him. He is going to loose and become a lessons learnt for them.....the "what not to do" in politics; and they will shy away from touching any Ibo as a VP. They will even shy away from your endorsements. They dont want to be stained with it and loose. Your best bet is 2019. Im telling you. If Atiku looses he will not be able to shake off the Ibo risk and others will learn to avoid Ibo. You under estimate Nigerian politicians. 5 Likes |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by Odingo1: 5:18pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Yoruba are ingrates for trying to grab 2023 presidency. They have their turn and others should have theirs. 8 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by BillGoldberg: 5:20pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Odingo1: Don't worry bro. Am even tired of quoting them because I see them as sub humans and barbarians. They will never get it. Rather than that, let the North rule forever! 7 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by Nobody: 5:21pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
ImperialYoruba: Eniyan mi, this is what I keep telling them. We are coming out early with our ambition because we are focused, confident of victory and completely sure of ourselves. Every region has dishonourable men but Northerners are honourable in comparison to others in Nigeria. Match that consideration with how Igbos do not realise no one plays politics of hate and enmity that they do and it will be a shocker for them to see even the PDP present a Yoruba candidate in 2023. Igbos are the only ethnic group who fail to understand the fundumental principles about politics being about permanent interests and not permanent friends or foes. The SW get that. The North does too . So too Middle bet , SS and every other region. A Yoruba will be President in 2023 and we can start a lottery challenge here with Igbos on NL. Let us all put our names and money into a central lottery pool Nairaland can organise. If Yorubas do not produce the President in 2023 Igbos who contributed take the total loot. If Yorubas win we who contributed take the booty. I will put N200K because I know I will get N1 million back if Igbos will shun cowardice and put their money where there mouth is to meet us mano a mano. Man for man. 4 Likes |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by ImperialYoruba: 5:22pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
BillGoldberg: Yoruba, the most Superior race on earth! 3 Likes |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by Odingo1: 5:22pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
ImperialYoruba:You Yoruba will understand the reality after Buhari presidency which will end in shame because Buhari is no more and Nigeria ruled by Al shabab element. Yoruba will not be president in 2023. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by ImperialYoruba: 5:24pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Oshigun: Correct! Even PDP will learn its lesson in 2023 and avoid Ibo. 1 Like |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by ImperialYoruba: 5:26pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Odingo1: Oga, bring it back home abeg. Focus on Nigeria, and the South! 2 Likes |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by OruExpress: 5:27pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
life2017: I knew this post was fake when I got to 'we South south' 10 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by Nobody: 5:30pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Odingo1: What others? After OBJ the North, SS and then North have had it. Yorubas, with the pivotal APC merger and with PMB winning all States bar Ekiti in 2015 and likely to win all SW States in FeBuhari, have gone on to show they are loyal and understand the need to build bridges thus cementing their image as a people others can trust. Igbos have gone on to create for themselves an image of a people who hate all others and must never be trusted with ultimate power. It is sad you guys operate several levels below Yorubas in terms of intellect because if not for that you would realise that Yorubas current confident posturing is a 50-50 mix of belief in our own ability and the knowledge we are the ones who, by far, have done enough to be the only candidate the North can view as worthy of their support and those they can safely and comfortably trust with power. 4 Likes |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by totit: 5:42pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Of course , We IBO's don't need your gov we can survive alone, after all, who the " president " HEP, who E hep Yeye people. Una want to rule through the back door abi? Make una continue with una hate abeg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW9yMpIqTUA Mtchew!!! 1 Like |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by BafanaBafana: 5:53pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
PaChukwudi44:And you think Tambuwal will defeat Osibanjo in sokoto? 3 Likes |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by Nobody: 6:04pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
Odingo1: You are a funny character and typical Igbo guy. You say Yorubas have had their turn and others should. Is that how life works? I.e reap where you have not sown because it is 'your turn'? So your neighbour who has been rude and physically violent towards you for years and has shown open hatred for you will marry your daughter so he then becomes an enemy within in your family and you would be okay with that because it is his turn? Talk sense dude. Igbos qualify as per equity but you are disqualified, and I would say for at least 30 years unless you change the way you act and talk publicly, because of your hateful conduct. To make things worse people like you come her insulting others instead of showing remorse and conciliatory behaviour that will endear you to Nigerians. When Yorubas were building bridges with the North, via TINUBU merging his ACN with CPC to form APC, you called us "slaves of the terrorist Jihadists" and claimed "SW licking aboki/Fulani azz". Today you dare to talk about "your turn" after such behaviour? You guys are cowards because real men live and die by their words and action. When you were busy alienating the North and SW you should know this would cost you their support you should, if upright and brave men, have no moral justification to go and seek in future. To now talk of your turn, or to claim the Yorubas should not profit from their mature politics, just shows how deluded you are. If I insult someone everyday and has made an enemy of him, how can I feel I am entitled to go to him for help in future just because I am desperate? Only you guys don't appreciate this. Turn ko Tonto Dike ni. 4 Likes |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by escapefromusa(f): 6:32pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
BillGoldberg: And, I thought it odd; Pentecostal's refuse to attend Catholic churches. www.nairaland.com/attachments/8377609_screenshot20181202theonlycomedymoviewith10awards2018nigerianmovieslatestafricannollywoodfullmoviesyo____png0def6649d18a7c9d5d735967a29d83c5 |
Re: 2019: Igbos reactions to Yoruba 2023 Presidency dream Is Pathetic & Pitiful by Donelli: 6:48pm On Dec 24, 2018 |
See how una dey kill unasef on top 2023 when we never know if APC or even the business enterprise called Nigeria go exist till then. ISIS dey pack north-east small small, marauding herdsmen dey shift come down south and una dey here dey argue wetin never sure. Meanwhile, those people wey dey brag about Yoruba presidency, I no sure say una don baff. E go clear people eye...no be Fulani people? Osinbanjo wey dem don rape sotey no more dignity remain naim una dey use threaten people, make una no let that man drink sniper out of shame sha. Abi na Fashola wey don troway the small respect him been get as governor inside lagoon for the yeye minister work him go carry himself put. Yoruba this, yoruba that, yoruba sabi book, yoruba get sense pass. Treachery and betrayal naim them call sophistication so o, now wey all man wan follow una play the game una begin cry. Shame! 5 Likes 1 Share |
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