tylann:

They have no reasons living ten per room they are just criminals nothing else and they deserve to be fed to crocodiles in Mara river
Kenya has slum problem our govt is working on that
But Nigerian cities such as abeokuta those are entire slums not cities

yet ABK has a modern city centre in construction with skyscrapers with a well planned modern light rail.


imagine as ancient as ABK is and will soon have light rail

genieluv:


They have their reasons for living 10 per room in Kenya, because such never happens in Nigeria. Your houses are too expensive perhaps seeing that a room and parlour in those mass houses cost as much $150 per month In Nigeria, you can find a room & parlour self contain in a better house for $50 per month.

****** People building nice houses close to slummish areas gradually converts that slummish area to a better place with time. That is why we don't have full blown slum communities in Nigeria unlike Kenya.

Kenya wouldn't have topped the world lists of biggest and most numerous slums if you had operated Nigeria's system.

Madam hypocrisy, stop talking about things you don't understand for once and stop being a hypocrite for once.

...........and which are these nice Nigerian houses you keep talking about? Apart from the mansions that belong to one percenters all I see in Nigerian cities are these. If these are the houses that are better than those you speak of in Nairobi then I pity you.

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I would rather live in Pipeline Estate 100 times that in these Nigerian pieces of crap. No wonder Nigerian men find our pipeline Estate so good they can't waste money living in a single room alone.

genieluv:


Interesting. I learnt that the Ethiopian orthodox church has been isolated from other orthodox churches for 15 centuries and hence evolved new practices of it's own.

~~~~ I don't mean to be offensive, but I have once watched a documentary on the Ethiopian orthodox church and my oh my, it felt very very strange and very different from every other church I had seen. Apparently, you guys use entirely different books of the New testament & Old testament maybe?

****** I guess Pentecostal & Catholic Ethiopians have been heavily influenced by Ethiopian christian culture, hence they find it so hard to deviate from the culture.

How do you know that? A guess? That's very offensive considering a few pages ago you didn't even know about orthodox Christians. You ask very dumb questions pretending to know what you are talking about.

tylann:

Just mention all the sectors that tz beats Kenya
And then tell me when did tz feed kenya a country more food insecure than Kenya itself

lazy asshole go google am. Idiot!

The stats that matter!

rvp20183:
Yeap Kenya beat Nigeria in private Equities.South Africa has 39% followed by Kenya at 14%then Nigeria the giant mess trail at 12%. There are around 250 PEs with 300 offices in 27=countries of Sub Saharan Africa.We always beat Nigeria in number of PE deals. In 2017 according E&Y..coming 3rd after South Africa & Morocco.

samsobo24:
yet ABK has a modern city centre in construction with skyscrapers with a well planned modern light rail.


imagine as ancient as ABK is and will soon have light rail

Lagos third worst city to live in the world – EIU report (2018)
but to be fair last year you were number two

https://allafrica.com/stories/201808140349.html
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/280081-lagos-third-worst-city-to-live-eiu-report.html

NairobiWalker:

Calling you on your hypocrisy is not name calling, it's your hypocrisy that's childish and pleas, these houses are not markets. It's just that Nigerians are too disorganized you sell stuff right where you live otherwise you'll have to be sick to thick somebody will believe that they sell fish in these houses.Your excuses are always lame.
www.nairaland.com/attachments/8391194_populationjumbo_jpeg35852b632aac21d8d0546ff22df79e66

Most of you Kenyans here argue stupidly, but that does not give me the right to say you guys are stupid. That's not what cultured and well-mannered people do. So, you can leave me to my so called 'hypocrisy'. Never use direct insultive words on someone. Have you been on foreign fora like Quora, Reddit etc? Do you see people calling each other names over there?

>>>> Stop arguing what you do not know. Most of those houses upstairs are used for storing goods which are sold at the floor level, that's the way it's being done in some Nigerian markets.

***** Besides, let's assume people even live upstairs, do you see as much chaotic occupation upstairs as you see in Umoja or those mass houses in Nairobi? If you look carefully you can see that those upstairs houses are apartment styled, they are like 3 bedroom apartments and you have less than a dozen of them in one building.

These mass kenyan houses have many dozens of appartments and possibly hundreds to thousands of occupants. You yourself make the comparisons.

genieluv:


Most of you Kenyans here argue stupidly, but that does not give me the right to say you guys are stupid. That's not what cultured and well-mannered people do. So, you can leave me to my so called 'hypocrisy'. Never use direct insultive words on someone. Have you been on foreign fora like Quora, Reddit etc? Do you see people calling each other names over there?

>>>> Stop arguing what you do not know. Most of those houses upstairs are used for storing goods which are sold at the floor level, that's the way it's being done in some Nigerian markets.

***** Besides, let's assume people even live upstairs, do you see as much chaotic occupation upstairs as you see in Umoja or those mass houses in Nairobi? If you look carefully you can see that those upstairs houses are apartment styled, they are like 3 bedroom apartments and you have less than a dozen of them in one building.

These mass kenyan houses have many dozens of appartments and possibly hundreds to thousands of occupants. You yourself make the comparisons.

Funny Nigerians love ths apartments ..wonder why

jaycent:
Keep fooling your self those are your country people. Ode

Is this idiot a Kenyan?

gallivant:


How do you know that? A guess? That's very offensive considering a few pages ago you didn't even know about orthodox Christians. You ask very dumb questions pretending to know what you are talking about.

Pls do not quote me on this. Respect yourself, I am not speaking with you or directing my questions to you in any way. Let the person I am speaking with respond to me, thank you.

Kismayu's amphibious attack by the Kenya Defense Forces

How it happened...

Kenyan military planners duped Al-Shabaab into believing that a land invasion of their last remaining bastion of kismayu was imminent before making an amphibious landing from the sea.
While Al-Shabaab planned its defences based on that assumption, the Kenya Defence Forces (KDF), part of the African Union Mission in Somalia (Amisom) in the Horn of Africa country, was training at sea.
“As the KAF (Kenya Air Force) engaged in aerial attacks the other forces were moving in by sea, from where they were to disembark. Essentially, it was intended to divert attention, especially from the Al-Shabaab.
That’s why you (the media) did not know about it yesterday (Thursday),” said Col Cyrus Oguna, the KDF spokesman.
The surprise landing in Somalia’s coastal city of kismayu by Kenyan troops on Friday was the culmination of a three-day secret undertaking, the Saturday Nation can reveal.
It involved attacks from the air, land and sea, all happening at the same time, and was codenamed Operation Sledge Hammer.
It was the first time the KDF ground troops set foot in
kismayu , the stronghold of terrorist group Al-Shabaab, since the Kenyan troops crossed the border into Somalia in October last year. (READ: Kenya declares kismayu fall imminent)
Landed in middle of the night
The operation involved bombing by KAF F-5 jets and more shelling by Kenya Navy ships from the Indian Ocean with the ultimate aim – landing Kenya Army troops in the city – being executed in the middle of the night.
Col Oguna, the operations officer in charge of Information at KDF, said: “By 2am (Friday), the last forces had gotten out of the naval vessels and were safely on the ground. It has been on for the past three days and that’s why there were air strikes in key Al-Shabaab logistical bases.”
The high-ranking officer left his usual station in Nairobi for
kismayu and arrived with the fighting troops so as to provide regular updates from the battleground.
Col Oguna said the capture, a secret undertaking, was an “amphibious operation”, an organised military landing by means of combined naval and land forces.
Military officers and analysts have since dubbed it the first of its kind in Africa.
The strategy was all along to make the Al-Shabaab believe that the attack on kismayu would be launched by ground troops advancing by road, most probably the ones at Jana Abdalla, the most recent township to be captured by KDF before Friday’s onslaught.
‘KNS Jasiri’ sees action
Recently acquired naval warship KNS Jasiri, which arrived in Kenya in August, was among the vessels used to transport the Kenya Army troops. Col Oguna said the naval vessels carrying the ground troops left “one of the maritime bases” in time for the fall of kismayu .
By Friday afternoon, KDF and Somali National Army had not suffered casualties, according to Col Oguna. The SNA has been fighting alongside the KDF in southern Somalia under the banner of Amisom.
“So far we have encountered minimal resistance. So the casualties on the side of Al-Shabaab are mainly due to airstrikes that are ongoing as the ground troops advance towards kismayu ’s CBD (Central Business District) from the port,” said Col Oguna.
He said the attack was given a codename because it was the ultimate prize in Sector 2, the area assigned to KDF by Amisom.
“The major operation in Sector 2 was kismayu,” said Col Oguna.
“Removal of Al-Shabaab would signal the complete destruction of its control of all the financial and logistical operations.
“We needed a hammer to accomplish it; hence ‘Operation Sledge Hammer’. kismayu supported all other sectors, including 1, 3 and 4.”
Military headquarters in Nairobi described the operation thus in a post on its official Twitter account: “KDF and SNA undertook meticulous planning on the operation and executed it with utmost effectiveness never before seen in Africa.”
It said an “amphibious operation” was of the kind which are “complicated, delicate and highly dangerous to execute.”
Situation in kismayu ‘stable’
However, the Department of Defence (DoD) described the situation in kismayu as at 2pm on Friday as “stable” while advising residents “to stay calm and controlled”.
Besides arriving at the sea port, other military personnel, mainly drawn from Special Forces, an elite squad of KDF, landed at kismayu Airport and took control.
By Friday night, the troops were going on with the operation aimed at taking control of the whole of kismayu .
The airport was on Wednesday bombed by KAF fighter jets, destroying an Al-Shabaab armoury and warehouse.
The airstrikes were described by the DoD as “surgical operations,” because only specific targets were targeted and hit, including training camps, defence posts and other areas where the militias were concentrated.
KDF urged kismayu residents to keep off areas with large number of Al-Shabaab fighters to be safe from crossfire.
It also urged Al-Shabaab to lay down their arms, adding that Kenyans who had joined the terrorist group in Somalia would be granted amnesty after they surrender.
After the combined force of ground and naval forces struck the port, the majority of Al-Shabaab fighters fled.
“Some of them just melted into the community but we still expect some little resistance, which we are ready to neutralise,” said military spokesman Emmanuel Chirchir.
The KDF destroyed several technical vehicles left behind by the fleeing militants during the take-over, which is said to have lasted less than three hours, he added.
By daybreak, the Kenyan troops had taken control of most parts of the town.
“We have sufficient ground and naval forces in kismayu as we speak. We are controlling three quarters of the city,” he stated.
Friday’s operation had been preceded by an aerial bombardment of Al-Shabaab positions in kismayu which destroyed the militants’ armoury and a warehouse at kismayu Airport on Tuesday.
“At this point in time, we are not able to know casualty figures but we will be able to give you that information once we get it,” Col Oguna was quoted by a Somalia news channel as saying.
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Mission-accomplished-/1056-1520574-87p078/index.html

rvp2018:
We kicked them beyond Kismayu and installed a puppet gov in Somalia.They cannot control a single kenya area for a single day.At their best they were gorilla fighters using suicide bombers.We have made that nearly impossible with world class surveillance and intelligence.Right now the plan is to kick their arse beyond kismayu.They can never match Africa most disciplined and professional army.The army that help restore peace in places like Kosovo and Eastern Europe.One of most regarded UN peacekeepers.A lean well paid army of 20k.An Army that requires every officer to acquire a military degree.For a long time our criminal and intelligence service were Africa best.You cannot post nonsense online and fail to get picked.We have cameras everywhere in main cities.Our gov lead in asking google for cyber criminals..majority Nigeria.Our corrupt police force is pretty effective.They take the money and puncture your vest with lead.That is what Nigerians are discovering.Finding them in Nairobi now is like trying to find an alien...our coppers are no joke.

Daejoyoung:

But these are not usually expensive places( if at all they exist in oshodi Lagos, dunno).
The crux of the matter is the rent of low income areas in Kenya are way too expensive, this is what l get from the arguement of Nowenuse and genieluv .

The fact that your Nigerian brothers can't afford them is not because they're expensive but because your brothers are poor. Housing in Nairobi is cheaper and better than in Lagos.

mtisTheQubit00:

Funny Nigerians love ths apartments ..wonder why

Nobody cares about that, the issue is that they are Kenyan housing systems.

The guy is right

mtisTheQubit00:

samsobo24:


Don't forget the owner of Glo is our 4th or 5th richest man,richer than all Kenyan whites combined

Shoprite is gradually becoming a thing of the past as our own just rite,palms and others are becoming giants.We don't value retail shopping like you Kenyans ,counting shopping malls as development.

The EAC is a joint investment project,LASG, Access bank and other firms all have their share in it.


My point is,we dominate everything, DSTV couldn't impose stations on us.

My question is

Why can't Kenyans (black) own something by themselves. It is always owned by 5 people coming together or white Indians or the government h
helping by adding its own share.For example Africa's richest woman is building an Edifice without. anybody helping or even without borrowing from bank.


Now show me one white out of our 100 top business men.

You have killed Kenyans

Daejoyoung:

Nobody cares about that, the issue is that they are Kenyan housing systems.

but why travel all they way from the Giant an live in a bedsitter (10 guys ) in such a place ..

They can't fathom that people from those houses can pay 1,200 dollars a year rent.It's normal here!

NairobiWalker:


The fact that your Nigerian brothers can't afford them is not because they're expensive but because your brothers are poor. Housing in Nairobi is cheaper and better than in Lagos.

mtisTheQubit00:

man you should see Telkom guys on the streets of nairobi giving away free cards. .that is a dying firm not a growing one.

Consolation mantra

Jonraid:
The guy is right

true..look at ths .Its like Nigerians bragging here dont have a clue on how the world views the zoo

FrudstaPresidnt:
I thought Telekom was irrelevant in that one city and poor country since it is owned by Nigerians. Kenyans are fools and clowns.
You folks should stop comsuming that nonsense chang'aa.

I thought Telkom was a big deal, does it become irrelevant when you realize that Nigerians don't actually own it?

Telkom doesn't play a big role in Kenya's Telecommunications industry at the moment, it's largely a struggling company since the day Safaricom broke off from it. We kept telling you guys that but you kept barking how a Nigerian company controls Kenya's Telecommunications - you know how you guys make a big deal off everything? We then came to you with the truth, that Helios is partly owned by Kenyans and now here you are trying to bring back what we told you earlier whilst you angrily fought back. See how hypocritical you are?

NairobiWalker:


The fact that your Nigerian brothers can't afford them is not because they're expensive but because your brothers are poor. Housing in Nairobi is cheaper and better than in Lagos.

What brothers are you talking about? you are the ones who claim there are Nigerians in Kenya. Kenya has never been among the top 20 countries Nigerians travel to( not even in Africa), we only read about this from you on this thread.

FrudstaPresidnt:
Consolation mantra

serious man ya got conned...

gallivant:


How do you know that? A guess? That's very offensive considering a few pages ago you didn't even know about orthodox Christians. You ask very dumb questions pretending to know what you are talking about.

Thank you.

NairobiWalker:


Nobody watches Iroko TV here.

Iroko tv would not have been making numerous employments in Kenya had no one been interested. So, speak for yourself. So many Kenyans enjoy west African movies and they are active subscribers of Iroko Tv.

Read below

https://techmoran.com/2017/12/08/irokotv-launches-its-offline-kiosks-in-kenya-in-a-pan-african-expansion-drive/amp/

mtisTheQubit00:

but why travel all they way from the Giant an live in a bedsitter (10 guys ) in such a place ..

l doubt there are Nigerians in Kenya, you are just lying.

Soon affordable housing will be a thing for everyone. The housing fund will be collecting almost a half a billion dollars annualy in the housing levy fund.This affordable housing agenda will be a game changer in our real estate industry!

NairobiWalker:


The fact that your Nigerian brothers can't afford them is not because they're expensive but because your brothers are poor. Housing in Nairobi is cheaper and better than in Lagos.

Daejoyoung:

l doubt there are Nigerians in Kenya, you are just lying.

then who are ths peeps

mtisTheQubit00:

then who are ths peeps

Your brothers.

Daejoyoung:

Your brothers.

no no noo..my brodas don look like ths

NairobiWalker:


I thought Telkom was a big deal, does it become irrelevant when you realize that Nigerians don't actually own it?

Telkom doesn't play a big role in Kenya's Telecommunications industry at the moment, it's largely a struggling company since the day Safaricom broke off from it. We kept telling you guys that but you kept barking how a Nigerian company controls Kenya's Telecommunications - you know how you guys make a big deal off everything? We then came to you with the truth, that Helios is partly owned by Kenyans and now here you are trying to bring back what we told you earlier whilst you angrily fought back. See how hypocritical you are?

lying machine keep lying to yourself after being presented with verifiable sources as to the ownership of Telekom and Helios.
That cheap and nonsense chang'aa has damaged your brain cells.
Please I am sorry that you lost your brain cells to chang'aa.

NairobiWalker:


Madam hypocrisy, stop talking about things you don't understand for once and stop being a hypocrite for once.

...........and which are these nice Nigerian houses you keep talking about? Apart from the mansions that belong to one percenters all I see in Nigerian cities are these. If these are the houses that are better than those you speak of in Nairobi then I pity you.

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I would rather live in Pipeline Estate 100 times that in these Nigerian pieces of crap. No wonder Nigerian men find our pipeline Estate so good they can't waste money living in a single room alone.

Pathetic (smh).
If you can't stop name calling, please don't quote me. I don't have the luxury to culture you on appropriate behaviour. You can go ahead and engage other Nigerians who will dignify your insults with insultive responses in return.

***** Look at someone like mtisTheQubit00 and see how he replies me without any word of insult and we make our points to each other. That's maturity.

I cannot fight with a mad man cos I will automatically be seen as a mad person like him.