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MuttleyLaff:
Do you have the awareness that you don't understand what Leviticus 20:13 and Romans 1:26-28?

Also do you have the awareness that you fail to understand the context and the surrounding reason why God said abomination was committed in Leviticus 20:13?

What goes against God's moral is infidelity. Would you say driving with legs subverts God's natural order?

I repeated here questions I asked frosbel2. Would you love your kid any less if confided in you about being gay? Would you disown the kid?

I'm not talking morals, extensively. I'm talking about the HUMAN BEHAVIOR and its consequences.And the mention of the "Possible Mastermind of the Masterminded Nonsense"/First Cause/God(s)/Whatever is unnecessary.

MexManuel:
Gay people in my opinion are not possessed. Religion makes many people think so because proponents of religion do not understand the complexity of homosexualism (same-sex attraction), and as not understanding something, homosexuality is labelled a sin.

A gay person is as normal and productive as a straight person, the major difference being in whom they choose to love

I have in my many study about homosexualism not being able to bring one thing and tell you this is what is wrong with homosexualism or homosexual people. The only thing I would say is that my religion does not support it, and does not have clear reason(s) why it does not support it.

It is okay for one not to support homosexualism, but it wrong to have hatred or manifest your hatred towards gay people.
Infact in some society now, homophobia is a crime, and with crimes, it is punishable.
What is required of us all is respecting the rights and dignity of everyone. Report cases when one abuses your right or becomes a threat to you.


Many of us want to go abroad or are abroad already. Shebi that abroad woman can marry woman, and man can marry man? Yet we still want to go.

The demons are not actually gay people but people calling gay people demons.

They don't consciously "choose" to love. Its a biological thing. But a sensesible comment by the way. If only the OP would be open to education

MuttleyLaff:
Do you have the awareness that you don't understand what Leviticus 20:13 and Romans 1:26-28?

Also do you have the awareness that you fail to understand the context and the surrounding reason why God said abomination was committed in Leviticus 20:13?

What goes against God's moral is infidelity. Would you say driving with legs subverts God's natural order?

I repeated here questions I asked frosbel2. Would you love your kid any less if confided in you about being gay? Would you disown the kid?

Could you please educate me on the context the above verses portray. I await your response sir.

asuustrike1:
Gayism is demonic. Although religion non science has been able to give a good study of this tendency, many persons are dying in silent because of the act. Many wish they were never born or they didn't have that kind of affection towards their same sex. This is not as a result constant condemnation from different people but the sadnesses many see in their friends living a normal life. We should pray for them to be delivered instead of this constant verbal attack on them

You also need to pray so that 95% of Christians can be delivered from pornography, lust, masturbation, adultery, hypocrisy, judgemental attitudes , pride and above all lying.

Basically, remove the IROKO TREE from your eye before you remove the SPECK from the Homosexuals eye.

frosbel2:
You also need to pray so that 95% of Christians can be delivered from pornography, lust, masturbation, adultery, hypocrisy, judgemental attitudes , pride and above all lying.

Basically, remove the IROKO TREE from your eye before you remove the SPECK from the Homosexuals eye.

You need deliverance

MuttleyLaff:
Do you have the awareness that you don't understand what Leviticus 20:13 and Romans 1:26-28 were each and all about?

Also do you have the awareness that you fail to understand the context and the surrounding reason why God said abomination was committed in Leviticus 20:13?

What goes against God's moral is infidelity. Would you say driving with legs subverts God's natural order?

I repeated here questions I asked frosbel2. Would you love your kid any less if confided in you about being gay? Would you disown the kid?

What part of Leviticus 20:13 and Romans 1:26-28 you don't understand?

Leviticus didn't say abomination was committed but was a prohibition against it.
Romans clearly stated that homosexuality is a result of people denying God simple.
My kid can never be a gay. Teaching kids about God and his standards can deliver them from such reprobate mind but what do we have, the media, government, the academia and even some corrupt churches are promoting this abomination.

What is wrong is wrong no matter how it is painted and glorified.

MuttleyLaff:
With the utmost respect and without any intent to insult, both you, frosbel2 along with some ill-informed homophobic comments by other bigoted posters here are each and all ignorant, if you don't know that the human being by design is created with the impulse to swing the other way.

Why as frosbel2 suggests should anyone unlearn what is legitimately natural to me?
Would frosbel2 love his kid less if confided in him being gay? Would he disown the kid?

Of course, it isn't normal for you but it is normal to them. They arent attracted sexually to the opposite sex like we are. We don't live in a world where everything and everyone will be the same.

Homosexuals are least of anyone's and the world's problems. There are more problems like starvation, injustice, oppression, victimisation, homophobia etcetera to deal with than x-raying homosexual lifestyles

What may come natural to someone may not be legitimate . For example, excess consumption of alcoholic beverages, indulgence in drugs and/or unrestrained heterosexual sexual activity come natural to a lot of people; This does not in any way make them legitimate behaviours. In fact, these behaviours can lead to imprisonment, financial loss and possibly self inflicted death.

We can therefore say that just because queerness comes natural to some people, it does not make it legitimate behaviour according to the norms of society. If a particular society accepts this as 'normal' then everyone is free to accept or reject it , most societies don't.

Further, statistically ( to buttress the normalcy of heterosexuality ) , homosexuals make up less than 5% of worldwide population, meaning that it is the exception rather than the norm.

None of my children are gay, I will not reject my child irrespective - my preference though is that none of them become gay. This is according to the norms of my tradition and what is classified as healthy sexual behaviour.

God made man and woman for a reason.
A man and a woman shall become one not the other way around.

Homosexuality is not natural, it's demonic. It's not formed majourly by situation the person finds themselves in. God created attraction of a man to a woman and woman to man for a reason. But the devil AND HIS agents are at work.

I pray for all those afflicted, seeing this message (willing to Cha nge) be free from any demonic chains holding you bound.i Jesus name AMEN.

kkins25:
They don't consciously "choose" to love. Its a biological thing. But a sensesible comment by the way. If only the OP would be open to education

Do you read at all? I said that we need a NEW study.

HellVictorinho:
That's thoughtful. But how do we determine what caused the first set of homosexual humans to be like that ?

first set of homosexual humans You mean Adam and Steve ?


I only know of Adam and Eve and they were heterosexual

frosbel2:
first set of homosexual humans You mean Adam and Steve ?


I only know of Adam and Eve and they were heterosexual

I'm talking about the first set of people to exhibit homosexual tendencies.
I'm not talking about the first set of humans to appear naturally.
Adam and Eve are the supposedly Eternal/Super-but-critically-stupid-and-incompatible-hunted-sexually unproductive-turned-mortal-evil-bearing-godlike-couples you are referring to as your first parents.
This is apocalyptic.

HellVictorinho:
I'm talking about the first set of people to exhibit homosexual tendencies.
I'm not talking about the first set of humans to appear naturally.
Adam and Eve are the supposedly Eternal/Super-but-critically-stupid-and-incompatible-hunted-sexually unproductive-turned-mortal-evil-bearing-godlike-couples you are referring to as your first parents.
This is apocalyptic.

You are not making any sense

frosbel2:
You are not making any sense

You don't understand the clarifications I made on my question concerning people with homosexual behaviour? Fine,Humans can be dumb.

As regards my description of your 'First Parents',I don't have anything to clarify because the Bible's account of the creation is just as twisted in presentation as what I posted.

HellVictorinho:
You don't understand the clarifications I made on my question concerning people with homosexual behaviour? Fine,Humans can be dumb.

As regards my description of your 'First Parents',I don't have anything to clarify because the Bible's account of the creation is just as twisted in presentation as what I posted.

You seem to be defensively angry on this topic. Stop taking it personal .

frosbel2:
You seem to be defensively angry on this topic. Stop taking it personal .

You are acting like you can't read ,so what do you expect?
And I am not taking anything personal.

Aaronsrod:
Correct!

We must put every one of them to death as the Bible commands us!

Christians! We must do our duty!

NO Sir! In Christianity we're ordered to PREACH as in PLEAD with them to reason and CHANGE but if they choose to continue in their filth Jesus CHRIST said "Let them be!" because He is coming to reward both the obedient and disobedient ones. Revelations 22:10-15

HellVictorinho:
Do you read at all? I said that we need a NEW study.

What new study ogbeni?? Instead of you to accept correction, you are quoting your elder in the field of biology.
Frosbel2 has been trying to drill it into you too but nahh You have a very thick skull.

kkins25:
What new study ogbeni?? Instead of you to accept correction, you are quoting your elder in the field of biology.
Frosbel2 has been trying to drill it into you too but nahh You have a very thick skull.

I can see that both you and Frosbel have reading deficiencies

frosbel2:
What may come natural to someone may not be legitimate . For example, excess consumption of alcoholic beverages, indulgence in drugs and/or unrestrained heterosexual sexual activity come natural to a lot of people; This does not in any way make them legitimate behaviours. In fact, these behaviours can lead to imprisonment, financial loss and possibly self inflicted death.

Heterosexuality and homosexuality is much more complex than what you think to be represented by the reproductive organs. If God created anything perfect, ease tell me why we have "shemales" and hermaphrodites. It goes beyond just physical appearance. Haven't you noticed little kids? In a large class you would always find that one boy who acts like a Girl, Also that one girl who acts like a boy.

The environment plays a role in shaping sexualy,therefore a boy might want to be gay because of environmental influence. so also do hormones. A transgendered looks like a Girl but sometimes have a full functioning penis. The penis works on testosterone which is the male sexual hormone. She males dont usually have sexual preferences but they will definitely get more erection to the site of women becuase even though they have female bodies, they are males on the inside.

Gay-ism could also be triggered by environment in a different way, take for example titus the gorilla. TITUS is an African gorilla who at one time in his life had no female associates and was observed to exhibit homosexual behaviours with other males in his group. So the absence of females triggered titus to start getting attracted sexualy to other dudes. He didn't make this choice some intrinsic factors responded to the extrinsic factors. Simple. Titus never saw Gay-ism with his eyes before. Take note. So ask yourself, where did that behaviour come from.
Not only in gorillas my friend other species have been observed to engage in homosexual behaviours. Haven't you seen one he goat trying to bleep another he goat. Its very common and take note again that this goats didn't watch porn or fox series.

Hormonal imbalance is one factor and environmental influence is another.

We can therefore say that just because queerness comes natural to some people, it does not make it legitimate behaviour according to the norms of society. If a particular society accepts this as 'normal' then everyone is free to accept or reject it , most societies don't.

organisms all have the tendency to evolve. Don't be surprised males in the future would start developing wombs Lolz. Just kidding.

Your analogy above is very wrong especially that of alcohol because drinking alcohol has nothing to do with the internal physiology or the external environment. Same goes with drugs. Even legimate behaviours which you surely have a misconception about such as anger, jelousy, sex etc can lead to adverse consequences.
Is homosexuality a legitimate behaviour? NO BUT YES.

No because it Is novel to H. Sapient(I don't know if earlier species like H. Erects or neathendrals exhibited Gay-ism) so to non "gayish" individuals it would look illegitimate. But current studies have shown otherwise. BONOBO monkeys are of course offshoot of a common ancestor.

They are naturally heterosexual but like humans they engage in some exciting sexual activities, sometimes I wonder if they would go to imaginary hell.

Ok let's come back, Bonobo monkeys engage in lesbianism, Gay-ism, orgies, prostitution in a sense and a variety of sex positions including missionary and more exiting doggy(heterosexual and homosexual). Bonobo monkeys unlike titus the gorilla where not influenced by environment such as absence of female individuals. So it would seem that they have hormonal factors that causes such impulsive sexual behaviour.

That leads me to say that along side other factors, Genetic influence could play a role in terms of hormone secretion or its function. If the genes produce a hormone that affects the sexual preference of the individual then it becomes a legitimate behaviour. We are our genes after all.

Further, statistically ( to buttress the normalcy of heterosexuality ) , homosexuals make up less than 5% of worldwide population, meaning that it is the exception rather than the normal.

None of my children are gay, I will not reject my child irrespective - my preference though is that none of them become gay. This is according to the norms of my tradition and what is classified as healthy sexual behaviour

At bolded, reminds me of a diety who always goes
"i give you freewill to do whatever you like but first you must obey this 10 commandments and a plethora of others. Obey me only of face torture in Hell"
Studies has taught us up to this point. HellVictorinho which new study are you talking of, or what the HELL do you mean by new study self. Do you mean "further studies"?

kkins25:
Heterosexuality and homosexuality is much more complex than what you think to be represented by the reproductive organs. If God created anything perfect, ease tell me why we have "shemales" and hermaphrodites. It goes beyond just physical appearance. Haven't you noticed little kids? In a large class you would always find that one boy who acts like a Girl, Also that one girl who acts like a boy.
The environment plays a role in shaping sexualy,therefore a boy might want to be gay because of environmental influence. so also do hormones. A transgendered looks like a Girl but sometimes have a full functioning penis. The penis works on testosterone which is the male sexual hormone. She males dont usually have sexual preferences but they will definitely get more erection to the site of women becuase even though they have female bodies, they are males on the inside.
Gay-ism could also be triggered by environment in a different way, take for example titus the gorilla. TITUS is an African gorilla who at one time in his life had no female associates and was observed to exhibit homosexual behaviours with other males in his group. So the absence of females triggered titus to start getting attracted sexualy to other dudes. He didn't make this choice some intrinsic factors responded to the extrinsic factors. Simple. Titus never saw Gay-ism with his eyes before. Take note. So ask yourself, where did that behaviour come from.
Not only in gorillas my friend other species have been observed to engage in homosexual behaviours. Haven't you seen one he goat trying to bleep another he goat. Its very common and take note again that this goats didn't watch porn or fox series.

Hormonal imbalance is one factor and environmental influence is another.




organisms all have the tendency to evolve. Don't be surprised males in the future would start developing wombs
Lolz. Just kidding. Your analogy above is very wrong especially that of alcohol because drinking alcohol has nothing to do with the internal physiology or the external environment. Same goes with drugs. Even legimate behaviours which you surely have a misconception about such as anger, jelousy, sex etc can lead to adverse consequences.
Is homosexuality a legitimate behaviour? NO BUT YES.
No because it Is novel to H. Sapient(I don't know if earlier species like H. Erects or neathendrals exhibited Gay-ism) so to non "gayish" individuals it would look illegitimate. But current studies have shown otherwise. BOOBOO monkeys are of course offshoot of a common ancestor. They are naturally heterosexual but like humans they engage in some exciting sexual activities, sometimes I wonder if they would go to imaginary hell. Ok let's come back, Bonbon monkey engage in lesbianism, Gay-ism, orgies, prostitution in a sense and a variety of sex positions including missionary and more exiting doggy(heterosexual and homosexual). Booboo monkey unlike titus the gorilla where not influenced by environment such as absence of female individuals. So it would seem that they have hormonal factors that causes such impulsive sexual behaviour. That leads me to say that along side other factors, Genetic influence could play a role in terms of hormone secretion or its function. If the genes produce a hormone that affects the sexual preference of the individual then it becomes a legitimate behaviour. We are our genes after all.


At bolded, reminds me of a diety who always goes
"i give you freewill to do whatever you like but first you must obey this 10 commandments and a plethora of others. Obey me only of face torture in Hell"

You have typed something considerable but the legitimacy/illegitimacy of this behavior doesn't change the fact that we need a new STUDY!!!!!

[quote author=solite3 post=74379643]God didn't create anyone as an homosexual, it is one of the manifestation of the sin nature of man. God hates homosexuality just as other sins but he chooses to deliver sinners including homosexuals from these sins through Jesus Christ.

How did u know?

HellVictorinho:
I am going to try to make this as short and as simple as possible.

Yeah? Right. Smh*

HellVictorinho:
Gays/Lesbians/Trannies and other people like that(un-straight) have matters that have been largely debated as regards their effects on societies.

And what effect do "Gays/Lesbians/Trannies and other people like that(un-straight)" have on societies, pray tell.?

budaatum:
Yeah? Right. Smh*


And what effect do "Gays/Lesbians/Trannies and other people like that(un-straight)" have on societies, pray tell.?

They simply make it look completely normal to exhibit things like homosexual feelings,sexual desires,orientations.
They also cause the children they adopt to be exposed to things that might change their actual sexual orientation.
Gay sex usually results in complications that could lead to death.
The practice of same-sex marriage is seen as an indication of a collapsed value system in some societies.
There have been cases of men raping boys to death in certain countries where homosexuality is practiced.
Trannies undergo operations that make it look like a person can actually live as a male then a female or vice versa
But the implication of this psychologically is that a condition is yet to be fixed.
This condition might even be unknown.
And trannies don't encourage acceptance of gender identity
This rejection of biologically induced gender has resulted in certain psychological conditions which are seen as normal due to insufficient evidence to suggest otherwise.

HellVictorinho:
They simply make it look completely normal to exhibit things like homosexual feelings,sexual desires,orientations.
They also cause the children they adopt to be exposed to things that might change their actual sexual orientation.

You get evidence for this, or is it just a belief you have?

Name me one gay person you have met please.

budaatum:
You get evidence for this, or is it just a belief you have?

Name me one gay person you have met please.

What I mentioned is a possibility.
That is,a change in the actual sexual orientation of a child adopted by gays.
The child getting affected by the practice of homosexual acts is a probability.
And this probability supersedes that of the child not getting affected.

HellVictorinho:
What I mentioned is a possibility.
That is,a change in the actual sexual orientation of a child adopted by gays.
The child getting affected by the practice of homosexual acts is a probability.
And this probability supersedes that of the child not getting affected.

Show me your reasons for making the above assertion, haba. After all, you cannot possibly be making this up now! Or are you?

Is homosexuality a communicable disease?

HellVictorinho:
What I mentioned is a possibility.

So it's just a possibility. You have no evidence whatsoever to support your claim? And I bet you've never met a gay person either!

Do you know it's a possibility for gay people to have two heads fly to the moon and talk from your behind? I have no evidence for any of this, but its a possibility, no?

budaatum:
Show me your reasons for making the above assertion, haba. After all, you cannot possibly be making this up now! Or are you?

Is homosexuality a communicable disease?

It is a mental-activity-induced behavioral condition that leads to homosexual tendencies.
It could also be described as something propelled by what goes on in a person's mind.
It exists naturally when a person considers it practically.
And some conditions are not classified as disorders/diseases until certain things about them are discovered e.g. a pathological effect.

budaatum:
So it's just a possibility. You have no evidence whatsoever to support your claim? And I bet you've never me a gay person either!

Do you know it's a possibility for gay people to have two heads fly to the moon and talk from your behind? I have no evidence for any of this, but its a possibility, no?

Can't you read?
And,have you not heard of psychology?

HellVictorinho:
Can't you read?
And,have you not heard of psychology?

As I said after reading what you wrote, twice, as MuttleyLaff would advise, do you know it is a possibility that you talk from you behind? I have no evidence, but a very strong possibility self.

Psychologically too!

budaatum:
So it's just a possibility. You have no evidence whatsoever to support your claim? And I bet you've never me a gay person either!

Do you know it's a possibility for gay people to have two heads fly to the moon and talk from your behind? I have no evidence for any of this, but its a possibility, no?

When a possibility is stated,there must be a chance that it could happen.
Existential possibilities are different from Eventful possibilities.
And I know how gays behave.
What if I tell you that cows are mammals and Mr Mohammed Buhari could win the 2019 presidential elections if he is allowed to continue as a candidate of his political party?
Would that require evidence?
Unless you were born in 1345 or somewhere in Jupiter,I would say it is unnecessary.
Certain things are certain for certain reasons..