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Abbeybailey:
Olodo, keep wetting your mouth for nothing like that will advance your cause in life. Always grabbing at the straws to validate your Basura.

Come on love!

budaatum:
Insult buda? Lol! Like I care! Insults are a clear sign of weakness and ignorance that I put under bullying and an inability to put one's point across, and by golly I am strong enough to let the weakness of the ignorant flow off my back.

Lol. My last sentence was sarcastic. You know he is known to heavily insult those with opposing views or those who challenge him.

Abbeybailey:
Watching the same thing too. Except i am not happy my Man U is not doing good. Lol Go Man U.

I am a Chelsea fan o, we aren't doing too good either. Very disappointed with yesterday's result. But Man utd are doing better now with ole gunnar Solksjaer. With the way things are going right now, I won't be surprised if Man utd end up making it into the Champions league while Chelsea and Arsenal drop out

Abbeybailey:
Watching the same thing too. Except i am not happy my Man U is not doing good. Lol Go Man U.

Excuse me, but you are not allowed to watch UK's Man U since you are not from Manchester and don't live in UK! Go watch American football or something else played in the America you live in!




Now tell me that's not a very stupid thing to say, and ask me if the telly you're watching is mine!

Martinez19:
Lol. My last sentence was sarcastic. You know he is known to heavily insult those with opposing views or those who challenge him.

Well, I'm sure I've stated some views that oppose his, and challenged him, but can't say he's insulted me yet. Must be something I did to his telly or something.

budaatum:
Well, I'm sure I've stated some views that oppose his, and challenged him, but can't say he's insulted me yet. Must be something I did to his telly or something.

You said Trump is an ass. That is a statement he can masturbate to so he has no reason to insult you over that fap material.

budaatum:
Excuse me, but you are not allowed to watch UK's Man U since you are not from Manchester and don't live in UK! Go watch American football or something else played in the America you live in!




Now tell me that's not a very stupid thing to say, and ask me if the telly you're watching is mine!

That's a wrong analogy. The African blood in me will watch soccer and don't forget I watch Bundeglesia, La Liga, EPL and even MSL plus I love American Football. Go Chicago Bears, the Monsters of the Midway.

budaatum:
Excuse me, but you are not allowed to watch UK's Man U since you are not from Manchester and don't live in UK! Go watch American football or something else played in the America you live in!




Now tell me that's not a very stupid thing to say, and ask me if the telly you're watching is mine!

Lol.

Abbeybailey:
You are absolutely wrong. 50% of Americans according to Gallup Poll believe he is a racist. Show me one president in American history that have that kind of horrible record. He's a vile racist.

Does that not mean the remaining 50% don't think he is racist

Help me please. I think I might be lost here.

Anduku:
I am a Chelsea fan o, we aren't doing too good either. Very disappointed with yesterday's result. But Man utd are doing better now with ole gunnar Solksjaer. With the way things are going right now, I won't be surprised if Man utd end up making it into the Champions league while Chelsea and Arsenal drop out

At least you guys are better than us. The only thing that makes me happy is getting rid of Mourhino. Never liked him and i am glad he's gone.

budaatum:
Does that not mean the remaining 50% don't think he is racist

Help me please. I think I might be lost here.

Imagine a President that 50% of his country men think he's a racist. That's a sad thing to say about a diverse country like America where in less than 30 years, she will be a Minority Majority country. So sad.

Abbeybailey:
That's a wrong analogy. The African blood in me will watch soccer and don't forget I watch Bundeglesia, La Liga, EPL and even MSL plus I love American Football. Go Chicago Bears, the Monsters of the Midway.

Why can't you just accept that the zero dollar in my pocket gives me a say in America then? Or is my zero dollar not my blood?

I strongly disagree with you that anyone who wishes to can talk about America. It's after all a nation that affects the whole world, despite the dollars in the blood of some of us amounting to zilch.

Martinez19:
You said Trump is an ass. That is a statement he can masturbate to so he has no reason to insult you over that fap material.

That's my opinion, and I can be talking through my ass. It does not mean it must be everyone else's opinion, or everyone who disagrees we me hasn't got an ass. I think Atiku is an ass too and wonder if he and Trump are ass related!

budaatum:
Why can't you just accept that the zero dollar in my pocket gives me a say in America then? Or is my zero dollar not my blood?

I strongly disagree with you that anyone who wishes to can talk about America. It's after all a nation that affects the whole world, despite the dollars in the blood of some of us amounting to zilch.

Tell me one instance I stopped or try to stop someone from expressing their views about America. I am not Seun or a Mod on Nairaland. People call me ugly names here like baboon and couple of them even called me a drug dealer. It doesn't offend me because I know I am not any of those names. People have the right to express their views and people have the rights to counter that views.

budaatum:
That's my opinion, and I can be talking through my ass. It does not mean it must be everyone else's opinion, or everyone who disagrees we me hasn't got an ass. I think Atiku is an ass too and wonder if he and Trump are ass related!

Okay.

Martinez19:
Are you sure you saw the first video 0:21 - 0:35? Hillary Clinton supported the open border policy during her presidential campaign. Why don't you research yourself?

You know me Martinez19. I don't do believe, as in cook things up in my head and claim it is what actually exists! Please go through links below. It's a simple google search. Then come back and tell me if Hillary wants open borders please.

Hillary on open borders

Abbeybailey:
Tell me one instance I stopped or try to stop someone from expressing their views about America.

You do appear to constantly state that Nigerians should not talk about America, Abbeybailey, and you include statements to that effect in your posts. Please go back and read some of them.

As to actually stopping. I doubt you can if you tried.

budaatum:
You do appear to constantly state that Nigerians should not talk about America, Abbeybailey, and you include statements to that effect in your posts. Please go back and read some of them.

As to actually stopping. I doubt you can if you tried.

I never said that. Please don't put on me what I never said. I have so many friends here that lives in Nigeria that contribute in this Section that I agree with. It's the ones I disagree with that I counter their opinions with me saying it's real life to some of us not watching Faux News.

Abbeybailey:
I never said that. Please don't put on me what I never said. I have so many friends here that lives in Nigeria that contribute in this Section that I agree with. It's the ones I disagree with that I counter their opinions with me saying it's real life to some of us not watching Faux News.

Don't worry. Next time you say it, I'll point it out to you.

Abbeybailey:
I see you are a Rookie here, you can go queue up behind the other pig lovers since you don't know Jack about the Fruited Plains. A racist that only gets 8% of African Americans votes is beloved by African Americans. Why don't you make him a King for life so no one can voice any opposition against the Emperor.

Most rational blacks DONT bother voting. The majority who are so consumed w/ politics are just interested in identity politics. All they know about politics is the same thing u know. Democrats = good and Republican = racist. Thats as far as their political involvement goes. A lot o blacks now are realizing that its a big game the media is playing on us. They have yet to show an example of him being racist but continue to pound this shit into our minds all day.I am old enough to have watched and known DT my WHOLE life. I remember DT support Mike Tyson when no one else would. I remember him being cool w/ rappers and the ONLY white man any black kid wanted to be when they grew up. Im not going to erase that because some other WHITE MAN/WOMAN tells me too. White people only " expose " racism when it benefits them and to manipulate blacks. They dont expose their racist ass grandfathers and uncles

Anduku:
And I guess you here in Nigeria appreciate and understand what's happening in the US fully enough to be taking sides with Abbeybailey right? You really need to look in the mirror and see that you do exactly everything you are attacking me for. We have a Nigerian living in the US on this forum, Temple1288 and he has said categorically that what Abbeybailey and co say here are blatant lies, so what informed your decision to take sides with Abbeybailey and not him? I can't get information from Conservative news sites but you and your fellow liberals are free to get yours from CNN and other liberal news sights right? What a joker!!! If I am to use your own description, then you are also a very I'll informed but strongly opinionated individual

I do appreciate what is going on in the states far better than you because unlike you (at the risk of sounding like a broken record) i have family and colleagues over there and their collective accounts are my basis for my opinions not just news media alone although the media most times buttresses their points even your much vouched for fox news whose newsfeeds i also subscribe to and i challenge your source of firsthand experience this Temple 1288 to come call me a liar too! That is how confident i am that i am not you!
Like i said earlier, my source(s) are not liberal news outlets(not only) I subscribe to faux news, new York times also, I stay away from the alt right talk heads of Ben Shapiro, hannity and co because my tolerance wanes anytime i hear them, on faux news, it may interest you that they do give their conservative guests a rundown of possible questions and preferable answers I think a F.O.I request revealed they did for the EPA director anyway, and a latino faux news host or is it contributor went recently and i kid you not "I know i am the designated pinyatta on fox news but to say this caravan of women and children is a criminal invasion is very discriminatory and racist" I hope you're still enjoying faux news

budaatum:
I don't need to prove I'm not stupid to you. Unlike others, I'm satisfied with you calling me names. But if you care, the privatisation he championed when he was VP is enough for me not to support him, and you don't get to tell the likes of me what to do with my own pvc! At least, I don't need to obey you!

I am not calling you names, (not yet anyways) but you called a candidate i support a thief and i am sure you do say that by popular opinion of the political party you espouse, you also went ahead to call me stupid for comparing buharism to trumpism (my reason is simple, both are personality cults hinged on the belief that the object of adoration can do no wrong)
If privatization is wrong, what would you rather have? We do operate a capitalist economy right? Right?
I can't tell you what to do with Your PVC but failure to mention atiku's acts of thievery makes you that uncomplementary word that rhymes with cupid! see? I done did it!

Anduku:
This you delving shallower and shallower right? Talking about border walls costs and ineffectiveness, slats, Trump's f-35's and talking about DACA and Democrats taking credit of a big trade off. I can see how shallow you delved. He even called people Trumpanzees . Hypocrite!!!

My dear, if you fail to see the Smiley's attached then you fail to get the joke, from my own perspective, it is so much fun to observe a character you detest self destruct repeatedly and that's why I'm familiar with trumps many blunders not because it affects me anyways, the evolution of the terminologies involved in his border security over time is very hilarious you don't agree? Well no surprises there! And the stealth f-35 joke sails past you too? Well, too bad! does me finding it hilarious amount to me espousing an American political ideology? You tell me
I'm not you so where again is my hypocrisy? Subscribe to Trevor Noah's daily show pleeezzz! you'd hate that you love it! satire can be brutal!

Trumpanzees, buharideens, didn't coin those terms but damn do they stick!

Anduku:
Lol, And you taking sides in a debate about an American border wall is what? Delving shallower

yes i do take sides, just not on the politics per se, more on the personality involved! Always goes back to my motives which remain constant, yours however is up to the jury

I see you're trying too hard to compare my motives to yours, try harder, i may be a hypocrite on many things, just not this one

Anduku:
On the contrary, I know who they are and I don't support what they stand for. I support Trump and that's it. How about the guy that shot rep Steve calise? How about the lunatic that attacked Sen. Paul Rand? Were they not all liberals supporting and attending liberal politicians rallies. I guess we should then lump all liberals in with them and say that's what all liberals stand for

And what was Trump's stand on those attacks? He called them out didn't he? As any good president should! Now compare that to his response on other attacks, his interpretation of the Charlottesville riots, his attack on Collins kaerpenick, his response to every other black person with a platform calling out his BS and bias, his belated response when a black unarmed man took down a white mass shooter, his silence on every other headline on police's all too common brutality and use of deadly force against unarmed black people! This for a tweetsy very opinionated president! Do you get the picture now?

Martinez19:
Lol. What is wrong with you people? People have the right and freedom to follow anything they want. Will you also worry about how Nigerians are following English soccer teams rather than Nigerian soccer teams? Our interest and politics we choose to follow is our call. Stop worrying over it and bring your facts to the table or shut up.

Cc. Auduku

I thought i had replied you, well, poor network issues...

Here's yours!

I call false equivalency on your football team analogy reason being supporting a football team is optional, your nationality on the other hand, hmm not so much!
But using your analogy, I support arsenal FC(guilty as sin so you got me ) but i troll Manchester united, city, chealshit threads whenever they loose (the hate is strong in this one! ) but i am invested totally and emotionally only in my darling arsenal! My heart never strays away from home and the Topsy turvy fortunes of my club! I even use arsenal in pro soccer for better or worse so You won't for example, see me selecting a fantasy or winning eleven for those clubs i mentioned because i have no interest in their victories except when it serves my purpose!
Having said that, if any of these clubs fields a Nigerian player, (even the disgusting spurds!) I rout fervently and exclusively for that player, not the club but the player, except of course when they play against us so you see, my loyalties are well defined, can you say same for your friend?

budaatum:
That's my opinion, and I can be talking through my ass. It does not mean it must be everyone else's opinion, or everyone who disagrees we me hasn't got an ass. I think Atiku is an ass too and wonder if he and Trump are ass related!

nah dude! Bubu is more trumplike (except in tweeting) too many gaffes, always bulk passing and blaming someone else, always trying to portray themselves as awesome and pseudo messiahs come to save the day, I can go on and on but let me stop here, my opinions though

Abbeybailey:
At least you guys are better than us. The only thing that makes me happy is getting rid of Mourhino. Never liked him and i am glad he's gone.

jesst look @ them! yinmu

BraniacX:
I am not calling you names, (not yet anyways) but you called a candidate i support a thief and i am sure you do say that by popular opinion of the political party you espouse, you also went ahead to call me stupid for comparing buharism to trumpism (my reason is simple, both are personality cults hinged on the belief that the object of adoration can do no wrong)
If privatization is wrong, what would you rather have? We do operate a capitalist economy right? Right?
I can't tell you what to do with Your PVC but failure to mention atiku's acts of thievery makes you that uncomplementary word that rhymes with cupid! see? I done did it!

I did not call you stupid, BraniacX. I said "How supporting Atiku, a known crook who wishes to sell, or rather, own the golden goose is not stupid, defies reason in my book!" And it was in response to you claiming support for Buhari is a "peculiar kind of stupid". Neither do I believe Buhari can do no wrong.

Atiku is part of the party that ruled when a huge theft of what Nigeria owned occurred in the guise of privatisation. People claim Buhari is no better, but I disagree. When PDP ruled, it just so happened that it was a period when Nigeria enjoyed a boom with our main commodity selling for prices we have never before seen. But where did all that money go? I saw it being spent on the streets of my own home town with people receiving money from politicians just for yelling rankadede. I'd take people to my farm to work all day and pay them above the odds only for them to return home at the end of the day to find some jobless idiot has more in his pocket just for going around with politicians! When Buhari came in that stopped, and I'm glad it did. A nation can't progress when jobless people earn more than those who work.

Now, people would claim Buhari too is corrupt. Personally, I don't believe it, nor have I any reason to. To start with, Nigerians are not stupid. There's no way he can be stealing all by himself without sharing with others, which if he was would be seen by it being spent on the streets but it isn't. But even if he were stealing, he is not stealing as much as was stolen under Atiku and co. The fact that jobless people are starving is evidence that he most likely isn't.

Atiku was specifically responsible for privatisation, which I don't think has served us well. A lot of what was privatised is now moribund since the assets of the privatised companies were just stripped and abandoned. So why would I wish NNPC, the goose that lays the golden egg, privatised by him of all people? Do I need to have two brains to know that even if privatisation were a good thing, he is not the best to be in charge of it? Privatisation may be a good thing in the future. But UK, a forerunner of privatise, are currently ruing the fact they privatised with a lot of privatised institutions not doing so well. And I feel they were more transparent in how they went about it than we would be. Sorry, but I just don't feel now is the right time for it, and even if we were to go ahead with it, I'd rather Atiku not be involved.

Regardless, all the above is simply my opinion. In time, the facts would out, and if it turns out my bubu has been corrupt all along, do expect me to come on here and accept I was wrong and call for his head. I know and expect that you, for one, would not let me off without me eating humble pie. And that is at it should be. Please do not go easy on me. Where I stand is laid out in many threads to condemn me with if I turn out to be the stupid one. And since I sai bubu quite a lot you must not skimp on the size of the humble pie you shove down my deserving throat.

Now, regarding Trump. Personally, my gut tells me not to trust him. Take his wall. 30billion will not be enough to build a wall between Mexico and America so I don't think its a good idea for starts. The wall between East and West Germany is indicative of the silliness of such ideas. People go on about how well he's run the economy when the truth is that America is only just reaping the fruits of Obama's policies. And the way Trump is going, I expect that economic progress to stop. He goes on about climate change being false in an era when the evidence says otherwise. He's given tax cuts to the wealthy. He wants to scrap Obamacare that has favoured millions who beforehand had no care, and so on. We're already seeing the effect of his policies in companies like Apple, and farmers are moaning that there's no market for their soyabeans. The slump in sales blamed on tariffs by some will result in job losses in America and probably a recession, in my opinion.

But the facts, or rather, my facts, hardly matter, or at least they are countered by facts as seen by the other side. For I'm sure you have counter facts to whatever I have to say, which I'm certain you will claim are more valid than mine. And that's the beauty of democracy. On election day, we all go to vote, and the person who gets the most votes becomes President in Nigeria as well as in America. And calling each other stupid will have nothing whatsoever to do with it. And if either of us has a brain in our heads, we'd surely find out.

BraniacX:
nah dude! Bubu is more trumplike (except in tweeting) too many gaffes, always bulk passing and blaming someone else, always trying to portray themselves as awesome and pseudo messiahs come to save the day, I can go on and on but let me stop here, my opinions though

That's politics for you. Blame the other guy for the fuq ups and take credit for the good stuff. That's why we must be hypercritical. Though its not easy in the fake mews alternative fact world we live in. We do the best we can.

BraniacX:
I do appreciate what is going on in the states far better than you because unlike you (at the risk of sounding like a broken record) i have family and colleagues over there and their collective accounts are my basis for my opinions not just news media alone although the media most times buttresses their points even your much vouched for fox news whose newsfeeds i also subscribe to and i challenge your source of firsthand experience this Temple 1288 to come call me a liar too! That is how confident i am that i am not you!
Like i said earlier, my source(s) are not liberal news outlets(not only) I subscribe to faux news, new York times also, I stay away from the alt right talk heads of Ben Shapiro, hannity and co because my tolerance wanes anytime i hear them, on faux news, it may interest you that they do give their conservative guests a rundown of possible questions and preferable answers I think a F.O.I request revealed they did for the EPA director anyway, and a latino faux news host or is it contributor went recently and i kid you not "I know i am the designated pinyatta on fox news but to say this caravan of women and children is a criminal invasion is very discriminatory and racist" I hope you're still enjoying faux news

Unlike me? And who told you I don't have family and friend's in the US? I have a whole lot of them living in Maryland, Texas and California. I don't just understand the way you reason. you have never met someone and yet you try to sound as if you are an authority on his life story. I don't know if this a general problem with liberals or just you. I also watch CNN and follow other liberal leaning websites like politico.com. and WaPo(As a matter of fact, I do watch CNN more than FOX news). BTW, do you think CNN doesn't give a heads up to her liberal talk heads? CNN that was even caught planting people at a town hall and sending Hillary Clinton the questions that were to be asked by supposedly "random" attendees at a town hall? Please tell me something else. And who told you that Temple1288 is my only firsthand source of info on things happening in the US? I just pointed him out being someone also on this forum we can also relate to and asked you why you should believe Abbeybailey and not him. You seem to have a problem that you don't even know you have and that's the problem of assumption. You somehow think that just because you assume something then they must be facts.

BraniacX:
yes i do take sides, just not on the politics per se, more on the personality involved! Always goes back to my motives which remain constant, yours however is up to the jury

I see you're trying too hard to compare my motives to yours, try harder, i may be a hypocrite on many things, just not this one

Not comparing your motives with mine, just pointing out your blatant hypocrisy. It's there for all to see.
You don't take sides on politics per se but the personality involved is no less a person than the president of the US and I haven't seen you accuse him of not being a good father or a good husband or of not being a good English speaker or you know, any of the none politics issues. All your interventions here have been on hot button political issues in the US. From border security, to immigration/caravans, to spending bills and shutdown, all of them are relating to his political role as president of the US and not his own interpersonal relationships with others. Stop deceiving yourself with that "not on politics per se" angle because you have entered the fray on all the current hot political issues in the US at the moment.