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BraniacX:
America has taken them i agree, until trump! Now that's my point

Who told you America has stopped taking them since Trump?

Many people have been granted asylum even under Trump administration

raumdeuter:
A visa or residence card can be revoked at any time at the discretion of the authorities of the issuing country

Sweden can issue you a visa and revoke it the following day

on the justification of a generalizing executive order and not on individual merit right? Now define discrimination to me!

BraniacX:
America has taken them i agree, until trump! Now that's my point

Nope!! Even under Trump they still take them in if they follow the legal procedure

raumdeuter:
Who told you America has stopped taking them since Trump?

Many people have been granted asylum even under Trump administration

how many last year, how many the previous years, we both do know how to count right?

Anduku:
Nope!! Even under Trump they still take them in if they follow the legal procedure

hahahaha! please, don't make me laugh

BraniacX:
hahahaha! please, don't make me laugh

Facts make you laugh?

BraniacX:
on the justification of a generalizing executive order and not on individual merit right? Now define discrimination to me!

An order can be given either generally or individually depending on the circumstance

Under Obama Nigeria was removed from the countries that qualify for visa lottery because of some reasons.

Under many administrations laws have been changed to cover people depending on the prevailing situation of the time

The justifications have been challenged in court just like the American democracy works and the courts have upheld it

Anduku:
Can't you understand that times have changed and the world has evolved? The laws as present now were non existent back then. With civilisation came modern laws on immigration. You can't be trying to apply medieval laws to present times. You can't be trying to justify present day illegalities by saying after all they were not illegal hundreds of years ago

those laws granting ease of immigration are as medieval as the first amendment or the 13th, you haven't done away with those medieval amendments now have you?

BraniacX:
those laws granting ease of immigration are as medieval as the first amendment or the 13th, you haven't done away with those medieval amendments now have you?

Challenge them removal of first amendment in court to have them removed

raumdeuter:
An order can be given either generally or individually depending on the circumstance

Under Obama Nigeria was removed from the countries that qualify for visa lottery because of some reasons.

Under many administrations laws have been changed to cover people depending on the prevailing situation of the time

The justifications have been challenged in court just like the American democracy works and the courts have upheld it

and do you hear me justifying Obama? Discrimination is discrimination whether under Obama or trump but to deny Trump's isn't because of your political leanings is simple hypocrisy!


Going to bed, we will continue this by dawn

Anduku:
Facts make you laugh?

the irony escapes you if you really believed i was laughing

BraniacX:
those laws granting ease of immigration are as medieval as the first amendment or the 13th, you haven't done away with those medieval amendments now have you?

Did any of the amendments permit illegal immigration?

BraniacX:
the irony escapes you if you really believed i was laughing

You said I shouldn't make you laugh because I said US still accepts refugees and asylum seekers under Trump and I asked if facts make you laugh because the US does in fact still accept them under Trump.

Typical of certain sets of people.

Real supporters meet real supporters and you are asking me question Dayo biko fi mi sile.
Let me finish watching Rupaul Happy New Year!
Btw-I really pity those working with no pay in sight. How are they going to pay their bills? smh

raumdeuter:
armyofone,
Can you explain why liberals can't stand a logical argument and frequently just resort to cheap infantile insults?

I think I will wait for someone will more intellect to hold an argument, PDPguy come and bail your fellow liberals out

armyofone:

Real supporters meet real supporters and you are asking me question Dayo biko fi mi sile.
Let me finish watching Rupaul Happy New Year!
Btw-I really pity those working with no pay in sight. How are they going to pay their bills? smh

Its about time that members of congress too stop receiving pay and no vacation time whenever there is a shutdown

No pay, to recess infact they shouldn't go home, bring blanket for them and let them sleep at capitol until there is a resolution

Trump struggles to replace Mattis as Pentagon chief
Former GOP Sen. Jon Kyl is at least the second person to say he's not interested in the traditionally sought-after top Pentagon post.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/07/trump-struggles-to-replace-mattis-1084749

President Donald Trump is having a tough time hiring a Pentagon chief after the abrupt departure of Defense Secretary Jim Mattis late last month.

Jon Kyl, the retired Arizona Republican senator, became the second person to wave off Trump’s overtures last week, telling the White House he is not interested in the job. Ret. Gen. Jack Keane also turned down the job shortly after Mattis’ resignation. (Keane, who frequently advises Trump, had refused the position once before, during the 2016 presidential transition.)

The refusals are particularly striking given that the top Pentagon job is historically among the Cabinet’s most prestigious and powerful, and coveted by national security veterans. But Mattis’ resignation — announced in a letter indicating that Trump had disregarded his advice on fundamental issues — has reinforced the image of a commander in chief unafraid to buck his top military advisers.

Both Kyl and Keane declined to comment.


...seems nobody wants to take the defense post from Donald Trump....

Former Federal Reserve chairman has called the Ocasio-Cortez 70% tax for the rich a terrible idea

Without getting into the details, Greenspan said the move would have dire consequences.

"If you're willing to take a significant drop in economic activity, I would suggest that," Greenspan, who was central bank chief from 1987 to 2006, told CNBC's "Squawk on the Street."

"Maybe I better make myself clear," he then added. "I think it would be a terrible mistake."

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/07/alan-greenspan-thinks-the-ocasio-cortez-70percent-tax-plan-is-a-terrible-idea.html

raumdeuter:
Former Federal Reserve chairman has called the Ocasio-Cortez 70% tax for the rich a terrible idea

Of course it's a terrible idea! It's also why she's not running for Potus!

raumdeuter:
An order can be given either generally or individually depending on the circumstance

Under Obama Nigeria was removed from the countries qualify for visa lottery because of some reasons.

Under many administrations laws have been changed to cover people depending on the prevailing situation of the time

The justifications have been challenged in court just like the American democracy works and the courts have upheld it

That’s misinformation.

Nigeria was no longer among eligible countries because Nigeria has sent more than 50,000 individuals to the United States within the last five years.

So Nigeria no longer meets the minimum threshold necessary for participation in the Diversity Visa Lottery.

That’s simply the law and it was correctly applied under this scenario.

raumdeuter:
A visa or residence card can be revoked at any time at the discretion of the authorities of the issuing country

Sweden can issue you a visa and revoke it the following day

Are you sure about this statement OR are you simply making generalizations?

To the best of my Knowledge a Green Card can only be revoked on two basis:

A) If the Green Card was Obtained by Fraud OR

B) If the Green Card Holder commits a serious crime of moral turpitude

President Donald J Trump cannot just wake up & decide to revoke raumdeuter Green Card for no reason.

The court will definitely strike down such orders because it simply lacks merit.

LUCAS99:
That’s misinformation.

Nigeria was no longer among eligible countries because Nigeria has sent more than 50,000 individuals to the United States within the last five years.

So Nigeria no longer meets the minimum threshold necessary for participation in the Diversity Visa Lottery.

That’s simply the law and it was correctly applied under this scenario.

So what is the difference, Nigeria was removed from list of countries that apply for the lottery because of some reasons and it affected all Nigerians

The reason is that we cannot have more than 50K people to have benefitted
Till date the lottery hasnt be reinstated for Nigeria

LUCAS99:
Are you sure about this statement OR are you simply making generalizations?

To the best of my Knowledge a Green Card can only be revoked on two basis:
A) If the Green Card was Obtained by Fraud OR
B) If the Green Card Holder commits a serious crime of moral turpitude
President Donald J Trump cannot just wake up & decide to revoke ramdeuter Green Card for no reason.

The court will definitely strike down such orders because it simply lacks merit.

No one will wake up and not give a reason for revoking, What I am saying is a citizen can commit a crime and a Green card commit the same crime, while the citizen wont lose his citizenship, the Green card holder can lose his

If the authorities of the US determines that Lucas has committed a crime or felony and no longer worthy of having his green card renewed then it won't be renewed or it might be revoked

The only thing that is your right is your citizenship, every other form of immigration benefit is a privilege which the host country reserves the right to give

raumdeuter:
So what is the difference, Nigeria was removed from list of countries that apply for the lottery because of some reasons and it affected all Nigerians

The reason is that we cannot have more than 50K people to have benefitted
Till date the lottery hasnt be reinstated for Nigeria

You said reasons?

You made it seem like President Barack Obama unilaterally decided to remove Nigeria from countries eligible to participate in the Diversity Visa Lottery.

That’s not simply the case.

Besides you also used the word “reasons” meaning that there were several factors that warranted the removal of Nigeria from the Diversity Visa Lottery List.

Without being condescending there is a big difference between reason & reasons.

Nigeria was removed from the list because of one simple reason which is Nigeria has sent more than 50,000 people to the United States in the Last Five years.

That’s is the only reason.

There are no more reasons.

raumdeuter:
No one will wake up and not give a reason for revoking, What I am saying is a citizen can commit a crime and a Green card commit the same crime, while the citizen wont lose his citizenship, the Green card holder can lose his

If the authorities of the US determines that Lucas has committed a crime or felony and no longer worthy of having his green card renewed then it won't be renewed or it might be revoked

The only thing that is your right is your citizenship, every other form of immigration benefit is a privilege which the host country reserves the right to give

Well you made it seems like U.S. Authorities can wake up & decide to cancel a valid Green Card without a specific reason.

That was the reason I quoted that specific word.

While the U.S. can cancel a non-immigrant Visa without a reason the same cannot be said for a Green Card.

If you noticed I didn’t quote the “Visa” Part because that was a valid assumption.

Thanks for clarifying though.

raumdeuter:
Former Federal Reserve chairman has called the Ocasio-Cortez 70% tax for the rich a terrible idea

Without getting into the details, Greenspan said the move would have dire consequences.

"If you're willing to take a significant drop in economic activity, I would suggest that," Greenspan, who was central bank chief from 1987 to 2006, told CNBC's "Squawk on the Street."

"Maybe I better make myself clear," he then added. "I think it would be a terrible mistake."

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/07/alan-greenspan-thinks-the-ocasio-cortez-70percent-tax-plan-is-a-terrible-idea.html

Yup
I’ll never support taxing any group of people, or entity at 70%. That idea is a non-starter.

However, I would support slashing the trillion $ “national security budget”, and compelling millionaires and billionaires to pay social security tax. As of today, people earning above $112,000/year pay no SS tax.

The extra revenue would be deployed to fund infrastructural projects and keep social programs running.

Anduku:
Did any of the amendments permit illegal immigration?

no but following the logic of his argument, their time frame makes them archaic and as such should be invalidated or changed on any whim most especially any Republican whim, speaking of which, is the right to kneel in protest not freedom of speech as guaranteed by the 1st amendment? When are you getting rid of that archaic freedom?

Anduku:
You said I shouldn't make you laugh because I said US still accepts refugees and asylum seekers under Trump and I asked if facts make you laugh because the US does in fact still accept them under Trump.

I know the premise you stand on before you start mouthing FACTS! FACTS! I know it and that's what makes me "not laugh" because in your "facts" a unit of asylum approval validates trump and your argument! But that fact can never be factual enough once compared to the numbers previously obtained! So phrase your FACTS carefully to prove or disprove my suspicions on your argument

LUCAS99:
Well you made it seems like U.S. Authorities can wake up & decide to cancel a valid Green Card without a specific reason.

That was the reason I quoted that specific word.

While the U.S. can cancel a non-immigrant Visa without a reason the same cannot be said for a Green Card.

If you noticed I didn’t quote the “Visa” Part because that was a valid assumption.

Thanks for clarifying though.

Authorities will most likely have a reason for canceling a visa also. Just like they will have a reason for canceling an approved Green card

Russian attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya charged with obstruction of justice in US court

Russian attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya, who was at the center of a controversial 2016 Trump Tower meeting, was charged in federal court on Tuesday with obstruction of justice in connection to a civil money laundering and forfeiture case involving a Russian tax refund fraud scheme, first uncovered by the late Sergei Magnitsky.

Veselnitskaya represented Cyprus-based real estate holdings company Prevezon Holdings, in a money laundering lawsuit brought by the Justice Department in 2013. In the case, the government sought to prove that Veselnitskaya’s clients had received and laundered a portion of the proceeds of a Russian tax refund fraud scheme involving corrupt Russian officials.

Federal prosecutors in New York’s Southern District said on Tuesday that Veselnitskaya submitted to the court an “intentionally misleading declaration in opposition to a government motion.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/russian-attorney-natalia-veselnitskaya-charged-with-obstruction-of-justice-in-us-court

The "5 minutes sit down and talk to my people oh Pharaoh" border speech wasn't convincing
Immigrants killing people? Are the immigrants doing the killings in Chicago?
God bless America!