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| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by idealogical: 5:08pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
firstolalekan: 2 Likes
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| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by TAO11(f): 5:11pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
firstolalekan: On what basis did you come to this conclusion that the latter kingdom ranks higher in status than a more ancient kingdom which also doubles as the mother-kingdom for the latter one? |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by Mansoorr(m): 5:20pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Always the answer is 8 |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by BuhariAdvocate: 5:20pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
 oga they not prayed for him but cursed him.Dpharisee: |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by ChidiAlaigbo: 5:23pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
CoolAmbience: Ok, may be you are right and I dont have the full facts. In a federation like Nigeria, the security apparatus should never be completely under the control of an identifiable part or region of the country. I dont see any Southerner in the top 5 security post and PMB as a politician should never allow that. |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by Damsyjay(m): 5:25pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Oyindidi:i follow you join |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by integrity16(m): 5:30pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Dpharisee: It wasn't prayer! They were raining curses on him, that's why he lost. |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by Oyindidi(f): 5:31pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Damsyjay:Preach to our youth my brother, this old don suppose retire |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by Olawalesmarter(m): 5:35pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
firstolalekan: What you think doesn't matter or what your reseach prove doesn't count ...... All Yorubas Home and abroad and Every where including the Yoruba King themselves know that Ooni of Ife is the Highest even Alaafin himself know that, and not only you have make this kind of claim even some Yoruba have tried to raise Oba of Lagos, Owa of Obokun and Other kings above him. You are all just wannabe and deceitful Yoruba or not even Yoruba trying to cause division in Yoruba Land 3 Likes |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by CoolAmbience(m): 5:37pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
ChidiAlaigbo: Who is the most senior among the Service Chiefs and where is he from? North or South. Who is the Chief of Naval Staff and where is he from? North or South. Just answer these questions and you will be just okay. No join dem for their beer parlour talk this 2019 o. 2 Likes |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by StFrankeinstein(m): 5:42pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Bro please you guys should stop all these tribal abuses on this platform. These so many people you might be better than & so many others who are much more better than you. The truth remains that you all will eventually get tired of all these. But remember before then if you continue like this you all (I mean every single one of you) will be rooted in hatred & bigotry and it a sorry for you all. I pray God helps you guys to change. firstolalekan: |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by Olawalesmarter(m): 5:50pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
TAO11: So you get the time to answer him? Even Alaafin Himself know that Ooni of Ife is the Highest because every Kings came from where he rules. Ife is the Original Home of all Yoruba kings and He rule their home thus making him the highest because there can never be two king at home only one. Some of these kings like Alaafin, Oba of Lagos, Owa of Obokun and Adimula of Ijesaland, etc some of them don't want to respect him because He is Young, Even Alaafin himself said it in a program where he should have pay homage to him that he wouldn't because he is too young not because he is not the highest but because he is too Young that's why most of them don't want to respect him. Stop Answering those Noisemakers all what they are interested in is to cause division in Yorubaland and he called himself true Yoruba Imagine |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by firstolalekan(m): 6:07pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
[s] Olawalesmarter:[/s] lol And this daft kid thinks his opinion matters  |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by remedykboy: 6:08pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Dpharisee:guy use your brain, do they point any stick to him? 1 Like |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by firstolalekan(m): 6:09pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
IntrovertedK:You know nothing about yoruba history. |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by firstolalekan(m): 6:11pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
messi042:I find your level of ignorance disturbing. I shlt on your head |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by kayusely70(m): 6:18pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
No doubt the Southwest is firmly locked down for Buhari, no shaking. 2 Likes |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by xclusive012: 6:56pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
firstolalekan: 2 Likes
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| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by Bolster(m): 6:59pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Dpharisee: Olodo rabata!!! So did you see the Obas pointing their 'Opa' at President Buhari? How do you guys even think sef? Oga o! 2 Likes |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by tbanty1: 7:08pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
chiangwar:Atiku is going no where |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by McTEE10(m): 7:57pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
When they prayed for GEJ, what happened next? Now it is different, take a look at the last picx, all I can see is that they are solidly behind him. Dpharisee: |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by omonnakoda: 8:10pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Praktikals: They are both useful to the Yoruba nation in different ways. The Alaafin is much older and should not be travelling in the same way that the Ooni has recently. He is a new and Young king trying to build links and also to make money( He is not that wealthy e.g compared to the previous Ooni and it was wealth that gave that one influence) . Otherwise there is no senioritty among Yoruba kings ecept that Alaafin once ruled most(not all of them ) Ooni on the other hand never controlled an Army and traditionally Ife was immune to attack. Besides even at his age he has been busy making babies something the Ooni can learn from It is telling that the VP chose the Alaafin to visit.I think it is more dignified fr a king to be visited than to visit. At this time of campaigning personally it was wrong to visit the President and I am proud of Alaafin for staying away. The president should visit them Among the Yoruba the Ooni never had any political relevance. The role is spiritual. When it comes to dealing with the Fulani or other oursider then I think we have to give it to Olubadan and Alaafin |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by messi042: 8:13pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
firstolalekan:oh you are a wailer? i didn't know, but you can wail to death. ZOMBIE |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by olawooro: 8:30pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
firstolalekan:What rubbish is this one saying? Who is arguing about supremacy here? Among the 5 first class traditional rulers of the federal govt, only Ooni is from SW. Alafin is not among them. What do you know about Oyo Empire? You still hold on to the collapsed empire? Oyo Empire that had collapsed long even before the arrival of the colonialists . As far as early 19th century, almost all the sections of Yoruba land had revolted against the Alafin. He could no longer command the respect of all Yoruba land. Every ruler had became independent of him. During the Oyo Empire, certain places like owo, ondo and part of Ekiti were not even under Alafin/Oyo Empire. They were under Bini Empire. Throughout the period of Oyo Empire, ile ife was regarded as spiritual capital. Majority of yourba towns and villages actually came from ile ife. |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by Praktikals(m): 8:36pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
omonnakoda:Thank you for your opinion, sir. But I want to give my opinion on 2 of the points. It is not true that Ooni of Ife has no political influence in yoruba. It is not a mere coincidence that Ooni is the Permanent chairman of all yoruba monarchs. No be by age or how long the king has been on the throne. It is also not true that Ile ife is immuned to attacks. You may want to read the story of Moremi ajasoro. Ooni should learn how to make babies at 80years plus? I want to belief that was meant as a joke |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by olawooro: 8:49pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Praktikals:I think you don't understand what he is trying to say. He is not talking about present Nigerian politics. He is referring to the period of empire. When Oyo was the political capital and ife was the spiritual capital of Yoruba. |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by Praktikals(m): 8:50pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
[quote author=idealogical post=74667217][/quote] Thank you, sir |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by Praktikals(m): 8:53pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
olawooro:Sir, is it true that modakeke is same as ode omu? |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by FrancisIgya: 8:56pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Shebi, dem say Buhari na Jibril from Sudan. Wetin make dem keep quiet sef. |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by omonnakoda: 9:14pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Praktikals: Permanent chairman This is a fiction . There is nothing like that.There is no such body The other thing I should poin out to you is that before Nigeria "Yoruba" was a term used specifically to refer to Oyo people and their Ilu Oke relatives ONLY Ekiti, Egba Ondo etc BELIEVED that LIFE started in Ife and every person came from there naturally they spoke what they believed to be DIFFERENT but related languages and thus had different tribal marks etc They did not call themselves "Yoruba" Each time they fell under Oyo control that was ENSLAVEMENT and they sought INDEPENDENCE when they could. If Oyo had problems they were happy, they never saw Oyo problems as their own naturally, unless they were under threat from others. The loss of Ilorin was good news to many of these nations Often they ganged up against Oyo . So the idea of one overall Yoruba king is funny if you understand that these folk NEVER considered themsles to be YORUBA That came with Nigeria. If you go to Benin republic and meet the Anago there you will understand better. They hardly call themmselve Yoruba People were often called nago, Anago, Lucumi, Ekiti , Ijebu Egba Ijesha and so on and were all nation states that were fiercely independent and resentful of Oyo reign. They would never call themselves Yoruba. In fact the term has no meaning Anyway that is just nitpicking . The reality is that Ife was never a signifcant political or military force among the Yoruba and did not collect tribute from Yoruba kings I should clarify immunity I mean immunity to attacks from those that would today be called Yoruba kings generally i.e those who trace their origin to Ife. Ife was quite a tiny enclave important for religion /ifa and spirituality . It had little economic,political or military relevance There is nothing like superiority written anywhere rather for ANY of the major Yoruba kings it was superiority of the sword which for centturies was Alaafin. Going from that the most recent most powerful military king was the Olubadan who probably would have taken over if the British had not arrived. The Olubadan was the one who pushed backed the Fulani attackers from Ilorin There are many so called Yoruba that are indigenous predating Ife/Oyo or have other affiliations and do not subscribe to the Oduduwa dynasty e.g Olugbo, Oba of Lagos and even Ijebus as well as those riverine Yoruba with strong links to Ijaw Much of what we see today is rewritten history for the purpose of Yoruba pllace in Nigeria |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by olawooro: 9:32pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Praktikals:Following the fall of Oyo as a result of incursion of Fulani jihadists into Yoruba land around 1830, many people from old Oyo moved south ward. Many Oyo people migrated to ile ife, they were living among the people of Ife. It was ooni that eventually gave them the settlement outside the wall of ife which is now modakeke. Around 1888 there was civil unrest between these Oyo people (modakeke) and ife . Ibadan/Oyo, being the kinsmen of modakeke people reach agreement with ife to resettle their people in the present day ode omu. That's why many families in ode omu have link to modakeke. |
| Re: PMB Meets With Traditional Rulers From The SW. Pictures. by enility(m): 9:38pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Dpharisee: The samething happened to former Ghanaian President "John Dramani Mahama" lwkm... |
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