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Michellekabod1:
No

Michellekabod1:
Our nature influences our choices you know

9inches:
He could help you make sense of a whole lot of things; things that you somehow already know or feel but can't exactly articulate or put your finger on. He does it in a profound way. Check out a couple of his lectures/speech and tell me what you think.

Michellekabod1:
please his name

Michellekabod1:
Memories
Memories could be spontaneous, contrary to the belief that memories are triggered when we cross paths with event, persons or places that relates to a particular event etched in our subconscious mind.

Out of the blue an occurrence replayed in my mind today.

I came back home from school on a sunny day to hear mum's chirpy voice. She spoke happily as though the person at the other end of the phone was inviting her for a job interview. She hung up.

Eavesdropping was never my thing,so I asked her what the good news was.
"He has finally confessed,Aunty Ngozi houseboy confessed that he has been holding their blessings spiritually" she said. "How come he confessed?" I inquired. "Your aunt and I discussed sometime back and she told me that her pastor said that the only way to have him confess was to starve him for days and lock him up" she said happily. "And aunty took him to the church?" "Yes, they had to beat, starve him for up to two days and lock him up before he confessed" she said.
This was good news to us all that a boy younger than twelve was tortured. Every one jubilated at this.

I can't fathom what weakened my conscience that I didn't find this disturbing.
Sheer logic recently made me realize that it is absurd to torture a kid to confess for participating in witchcraft.
If I were starved for a day and isolated even without being beaten I would confess to witchcraft in a jiffy even though am innocent to have something to eat at least. So taking the confession of a kid to be true after subjecting the child to such inhumane act is stupid!

And this was orchestrated by a man of God! Damn...I feel irritated as I type.

It baffles me how people go to bizzare lengths to have witches/wizards confess when there is God who is omniscient and can reveal things to them. Some claim they know but want the accused to confess with their very own lips. Of what use is the confession? As simple as it could be if you suspect your house help is a witch/wizard send him/her packing.

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Freh:
We did not rebel.

Freh:
In fact the bible clearly says that Adam and Eve were decieved.

Freh:
What kind of parent will punish his 3 year child for being deceived into wrong.

Freh:
Adam and Eve didn't even know what unclothedness was and they're supposed to know "the whiles of the devil". In fact there's no way they would've known without eating the fruit in the first place.

Freh:
Then God now says man Is now LIKE US, able to know good and evil. So the serpent wasn't lying after all

Freh:
Question: if Adam and Eve are the origin of everyone on earth that means all the races on earth came from them. I may not be a geneticist but I am a scientist and have some knowledge in that area. I can boldly say that phenotypic variations between races is too wide to have occurred from one single lineage in such a short time. It's stupid to think otherwise.
We are talking about people who have blue eyes and blonde hair. Or red hair and green eyes (irish). These phenotypes are too wide apart to have come from one single lineage. If it were possible for such to happen we would have seen more of it. Like lets say blue eyed Nogrrians by now. But that can only happen if crossbreeding has occured somewhere in his gene pool.
It's not even Adam it's Noah we should focus on.

MuttleyLaff:
We did rebel. A man without God is a rebel. Removing God from existence is a great act of rebellion

Adam wasnt deceived but Eve was deceived, she admitted this by saying she was beguiled, as in, caused, in a deceptive way, to have a liking for and/or interest to the fruit.

Adam and Eve were not 3 year olds. Adam was a grown man. He and Eve were not made children nor childish. Adam and Eve did not gradually change physically or progress to maturity as a child would do. Adam and Eve were created fully grown, made and developed to be responsible for their actions. Their minds were endowed with accelerated knowledge and so capable to be completely responsible for what they did or not do

Adam was clothed with righteosness, so didnt have to or need to know what nakednesss is. It is the eating of the fruit that stripped them off the clothing of righteousness

Like us, means, man has become a god, as just like us, will begin to judge between what is good and what is bad. The serpent lied about the price to pay for this premature privilege. The serpent lied about the huge cost and implication(s)

It is even Adam, and it is even Noah too, it even is, Noah's daughter in law paapaa sef. It's all three we should focus on. #IfYouKnowYouKnow.
If you know, you know. Who no know, no go know.
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Freh:
If were separate from God then we shouldn't exist. Because in him we move and breath and have our being. There's probably a better term you can use which I made use of when preaching to people. We've all been cut from the same rock as the bible says. The spirit we have is God given and will return back to him as said in Ecclesiastes.
By the word of God everything in existence continues to exist so how can they be separate. The Jews never saw this separation that's why they credited both good and evil to God.

When times are good, be happy; but when times are bad, consider this: God has made the one as well as the other. Therefore, no one can discover anything about their future.
Ecclesiastes 7:14

Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?
Amos 3:6 KJV

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
Isaiah 45:7 KJV

Michellekabod1:
Memories
Memories could be spontaneous, contrary to the belief that memories are triggered when we cross paths with event, persons or places that relates to a particular event etched in our subconscious mind.

Out of the blue an occurrence replayed in my mind today.

I came back home from school on a sunny day to hear mum's chirpy voice. She spoke happily as though the person at the other end of the phone was inviting her for a job interview. She hung up.

Eavesdropping was never my thing,so I asked her what the good news was.
"He has finally confessed,Aunty Ngozi houseboy confessed that he has been holding their blessings spiritually" she said. "How come he confessed?" I inquired. "Your aunt and I discussed sometime back and she told me that her pastor said that the only way to have him confess was to starve him for days and lock him up" she said happily. "And aunty took him to the church?" "Yes, they had to beat, starve him for up to two days and lock him up before he confessed" she said.
This was good news to us all that a boy younger than twelve was tortured. Every one jubilated at this.

I can't fathom what weakened my conscience that I didn't find this disturbing.
Sheer logic recently made me realize that it is absurd to torture a kid to confess for participating in witchcraft.
If I were starved for a day and isolated even without being beaten I would confess to witchcraft in a jiffy even though am innocent to have something to eat at least. So taking the confession of a kid to be true after subjecting the child to such inhumane act is stupid!

And this was orchestrated by a man of God! Damn...I feel irritated as I type.

It baffles me how people go to bizzare lengths to have witches/wizards confess when there is God who is omniscient and can reveal things to them. Some claim they know but want the accused to confess with their very own lips. Of what use is the confession? As simple as it could be if you suspect your house help is a witch/wizard send him/her packing.

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Freh:
How can we be condemned for making choices that he created. Evil is a possibility because God made it. Death is a possibility because he made it. Every action that can be done is permitted by God. He made it all.

Freh:
Have you seen video games where a small world like a city is made with buildings and so many things to interact with. In some of them you can go on a killing spree and kill people passing by. In others you can't even harm them. It was the creators design.
In some games you might be surrounded by beautiful girls but because sex is not in the program of the avatar it is not an option.
So the very things that we call sin. The things we desire that are wrong have been programmed into us.

Freh:
Was it not God who hardened pharoahs heart. Was it not God who moved David to count the people.

Freh:
Concerning the fall, the bible never said they were clothed with righteousness. That is just something we Christian's made up. It said that they were unclad and they knew it not.

LordReed:
The defense will probably be along the lines of the god said suffer not a witch to live. I was watching Shiloh live when Oyedepo slapped one small girl in the name of defending Jesus from witches. That was the defense he gave. If such a prominent "man of god" can publicly mistreat a person in the name of their god, it is left to the imagination what is going on in the secret.

It certainly is heartbreaking watching people submit their reasoning to irrationality and cause such grievous harm to people who can't defend themselves. I remember an incident similar to the Oyedepo one that happened to me. I was with a pastor who said jokingly, "you are possessed" to which I responded "with the holy ghost". If like Oyedepo the pastor had slapped me, I'd like to think that I would be capable of responding in kind because at the time I was old enough to defend myself. Those too little or incapable of defending themselves are vulnerable to these predators and should be protected from them. Alas those who often should be the protectors are the enablers.

MuttleyLaff:
The spirit breathed into man goes back to God after death, the soul however goes a place to await judgement at the appointed time

Evil is the absence of good or goodness. Death is a dividing line, a separation from God. God is Sovereign, He can do whatever He likes or wants. We make choices and be prepared to face the consequences of our choices

Those are avatars, those are animations, this is real and human beings made in the image of God

God did not per se, harden Pharaoh's heart, Pharaoh, was rearing to harden his heart but couldnt because God's Hand was on it. The moment God lifted away His hand, Pharaoh let hell loose. God doesnt do evil, no evil is in God. David too counted, on his own accord and following his impulse, not that God moved him to count. God allowed him to carry out what he had decided in his heart to do.

In their innocence, they were vulnerable, but they knew it because they were covered, the moment the lost that covering because of sin, they became aware of their vulnerability and the state of being a position susceptible to harm or attack. Putting on clothing of righteous is bible talk and there are numerous mentioning of it in the bible

Freh:
What the Bible said
And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.
2 Samuel 24:1 KJV

The same story is told in Chronicles but God is replaced with Devil

And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.
1 Chronicles 21:1 KJV

Also the bible didn't say they lost their covering it said their eyes were opened . So the fruit was an eye opener

And the Lord hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them; as the Lord had spoken unto Moses.
Exodus 9:12 KJV
I didn't want to post anymore bible verses.
How can you expect non Christians to take you serious when you twist the Scriptures you call sacred.
Is it not in Deuteronomy that God said don't add or remove from scripture.
Also...
If he set his heart upon man, if he gather unto himself his spirit and his breath; All flesh shall perish together, and man shall turn again unto dust.
Job 34:14‭-‬15 KJV
If it is his spirit that gives us life how can we ever be separate. It's like saying the arm is separate from the head.
In people with multiple personality disorder. They can have separate personalities in one body. They can have a devil and an angel in the same body but both of them came from the same source. The separation is only apparent. This is an analogy if you think about it you'll get what I'm saying
To the dust they said. A soul is a spirit with a personality meaning we will all act the same if we didn't have a mind to make us individuals. Without the spirit the mind will fade away.

HenryDion:
I don't understand this thread. Like, you require all these experiences before you could dump the xtain god ass? You're more like a misotheist, someone who hates god because he failed to meet your expectations.

I'm an atheist simple because there is no proof to support such ridiculousness. The loopholes and inconsistencies that comes with their religious texts is a pointer to that fact. Religion was created by primitive middle east desert men, to control people with primitive and limited thinking ability, using an old age technique of 'carrot and stick'.

That is, using fake threat of extreme fear, coupled with extreme fake reward.

Anyone who still buy into that bullshit is nothing but a result of infant indoctrination, whose fear of hell is so overwhelming that he might never let go for fear of eternal suffering. Religion is an insult to human intellect.

Martinez19:
I think she is sharing the experiences that placed doubt in her mind and her experiences as a christian.

HenryDion:
Well, we all had something that triggered our awareness. I'm happy for her. Whenever a female become an atheist, i tend to get a hard on immediately. It is a rare occurrence.

HenryDion:
Well, we all had something that triggered our awareness. I'm happy for her. Whenever a female become an atheist, i tend to get a hard on immediately. It is a rare occurrence, African women especially.

Martinez19:
Do you remember that our first encounter with insults? "you are just as smart as your English" remember?

HenryDion:
Leave me ooh..

Most times it's just for the fun.. That's how i deal with boredom most times

Martinez19:
Do you remember that our first encounter with insults? "you are just as smart as your English" remember?

PastorAIO:
I would love to read this interaction. any links?

Martinez19:
Do you remember that our first encounter with insults? "you are just as smart as your English" remember?

Martinez19:
I think she is sharing the experiences that placed doubt in her mind and her experiences as a christian.

Zither:
Have you tried trying to hear from the Source of christianity, God? Have you tried hearing from Him to get the true picture of your life, christianity, and any other thing that concerns you?

Michellekabod2:
Good evening Nairalanders, am sure you are familiar with the account michellekabod1. It has been a while since I last posted.

All these while, I have been a bit lethargic on this forum due to the fact that I have indulged in sober reflection, and learning, and most of all trying to make it up with my Creator, God almighty, the author and finisher of our faith, the great "I AM".

It obviously would shock many to the bone marrow that I, a former atheist, out of the blue decided to denounce atheism for Christianity.

Not here to coarse or coax anybody, am not an apologist. Just wanna give my testimony.

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jesusjnr:
That was then, this is now!



The take over is only just warming up!