Our economic is firing on all it's cylinders. Yours had it growth projection slashed by IMF by 0.3 points. Now it will crawl at 2% - while you population growth is nearly 3-4%! your GDP per capita - is hemorrhaging - at possibly -1 or 2% annually.

Ours is growing at 6.5% this year, population growth is 1.5%, inflation has been single digit forever, and KSHS is one world strongest currency against USD.

We have never really had a debt crisis. That is strange thing. We will repay that debt and borrow more.

obaaderemi:
What should worry you more is your $60bn economy and your debt burden to China.

rvp2018:
The agreement is not to rock the census boat. So because they are so incredibly corrupted and manipulated - what NBS attempt to do - is to revise the figures to the accepted consensus. You'd expect Lagos to see huge population increase as more and more people move there - but you don't see it.

but atleast they should have run a smarter code to top up some states while reducing others by a fraction ..that would be much convincing

Jonraid:
A Nigerian lass I know walked me into it!

You mean led you by the nose into nairaland and you have remained addicted ever since. Keep lying to yourself. It sounds sweet.

If it's true that they haven't hold a credible census as of late,why would he then trust the numbers? We can only give those numbers a benefit of doubt just because only one body is required to provide the census information! That explains why the WB and other bodies rolled on with the Nigerian figures!

vaxx:
.You need to be educated first before we can argue. i will only argue with you when i sense a presence of inteligence in you , until then, i will be correcting your ignorance by educatiing you.

rvp2018:
Our economic is firing on all it's cylinders. Yours had it growth projection slashed by IMF by 0.3 points. Now it will crawl at 2% - while you population growth is nearly 3-4%! your GDP per capita - is hemorrhaging - at possibly -1 or 2% annually.

Ours is growing at 6.5% this year, population growth is 1.5%, inflation has been single digit forever, and KSHS is one world strongest currency against USD.

We have never really had a debt crisis. That is strange thing. We will repay that debt and borrow more.

Your economy is a bubble bouyed up by debt. Even at that it's shameful to have an economy smaller than Lagos's.

National Chairman of the National Population Commission, NPC, Eze Festus Odimegwu

Blaming the irregularity on distortion and falsification of figures for selfish and political reasons by politicians, Odimegwu had said: “No census has been credible in Nigeria since 1863. Even the one conducted in 2006 is not credible. I have the records and evidence produced by scholars and professors of repute. This is not my report. If the current laws are not amended, the planned 2016 census will not succeed.”

Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/10/odimegwu-quits-npc-boss/

mtisTheQubit:


Ibrah my guy explain to be ths.in slow motion please if possible..what th dang is ths

I am as confused as you are.

2006 census is a joke, nobody argues that but to say Nigeria's population is 150m
How and where do you hide 50m people? That's like whole of Kenya!

She begged,I was only being a gentleman you wanksplat!

obaaderemi:
You mean led you by the nose into nairaland and you have remained addicted ever since. Keep lying to yourself. It sounds sweet.

obaaderemi:
Your economy is a bubble bouyed up by debt. Even at that it's shameful to have an economy smaller than Lagos's.

yet Lagos can't boast of

Even 12 hours power supply
A functioning health care
A good water supply
Good roads

You need to understand how they operate.National Population Commission that does census has 36 commissioners. I think Each state appoint a commissioner.

During the actual census every state races to inflate their figures because FEDERAL ALLOCATION is dependant on it. At least with election they may deploy biometric - but Census is just poor enumators filling papers.

The census become so much manipulated - 2006 - the actual census showed they were 200M Nigerian

So the 36 commissioners sat down and culled the figures using the accepted "%". Lagos can expect to be always 6% of Nigeria.

There was really no need to waste 1B dollars in 2016 to do another census.

mtisTheQubit:

but atleast they should have run a smarter code to top up some states while reducing others by a fraction ..that would be much convincing

Jonraid:
She begged,I was only being a gentleman you wanksplat!

You idiot. I guess she also begged you to stay addicted. She has you trapped by your balls then.

So if you accept the census are manipulated. You do accept the manipulation is not to reduce the population. Every state for economic and political reason want to appear more populous.

It reasonable for me if you at least accept Nigeria population is INFLATED. It less than officially stated. It could be 5 or 10 or 50M inflated.

Just like you also need to accept the GDP is over-stated to make Nigeria Africa top dog while everyone knows Egypt with 100M and zero povery - and South Africa with proper middle class - are just reasonable 350B.

Ibrahimanis:

I am as confused as you are.

2006 census is a joke, nobody argues that but to say Nigeria's population is 150m
How and where do you hide 50m people? That's like whole of Kenya!

It's the other way around actually. She's on my leash

Let us get back to the discussion. The banter is over!

obaaderemi:
You idiot. I guess she also begged you to stay addicted. She has you trapped by your balls then.

Binikingdowm:
yet Lagos can't boast of

Even 12 hours power supply
A functioning health care
A good water supply
Good roads

The same Lagos has a airport busier than the one in Nairobi and a sea port busier than the busiest port in east Africa. Literacy level in that same Lagos is higher than in Nairobi, Kenya's number one city. What's more, that same Lagos has fewer of its people living in slums than Nairobi. Of course, Lagos has it's bad side but that's one city you can't wave aside.

Jonraid:
It's the other way around actually. She's on my leash

Let us get back to the discussion. The banter is over!

The same way lupita nyongwhatever was in the chains of bolaji, her Nigerian boyfriend

https://www.nairaland.com/4506171/some-ongoing-island-projects-lagos#67589701

I think this should keep some haters quiet.
instead of thinking about how to develop your country, you are blabbing nonsense

obaaderemi:
The same Lagos has a airport busier than the one in Nairobi and a sea port busier than the busiest port in east Africa. Literacy level in that same Lagos is higher than in Nairobi, Kenya's number one city. What's more, that same Lagos has fewer of its people living in slums than Nairobi. Of course, Lagos has it's bad side but that's one city you can't wave aside.

busy because it's the only airport safe enough for travel in the entire 36 states. That's nothing to be proud of infact it's a shame.

Illiteracy level dished out by Nigeria propaganda media? 60% of Lagosians can't sleep aeroplane

There you go with lies. Lagos Airport has since 2015/2016 trailed Nairobi's JKIA in all the statistics - passengers, cargo and flight movement. Nairobi still has one of most busiest airport in Wilson airstrip.

It's sea port also has been overtaken by Mombasa - both Apapa & Tin Can.

For a city with population twice or more Nairobi - Lagos is very poor.

obaaderemi:
The same Lagos has a airport busier than the one in Nairobi and a sea port busier than the busiest port in east Africa. Literacy level in that same Lagos is higher than in Nairobi, Kenya's number one city. What's more, that same Lagos has fewer of its people living in slums than Nairobi. Of course, Lagos has it's bad side but that's one city you can't wave aside.

rvp2018:
[s]So if you accept the census are manipulated. You do accept the manipulation is not to reduce the population. Every state for economic and political reason want to appear more populous.

It reasonable for me if you at least accept Nigeria population is INFLATED. It less than officially stated. It could be 5 or 10 or 50M inflated.

Just like you also need to accept the GDP is over-stated to make Nigeria Africa top dog while everyone knows Egypt with 100M and zero povery - and South Africa with proper middle class - are just reasonable 350B.[/s]

Take your jealousy and grievances to the IMF and world bank and stop crying here where your tears are fruitless.

rvp2018:

During the actual census every state races to inflate their figures because FEDERAL ALLOCATION is dependant on it. At least with election they may deploy biometric - but Census is just poor enumators with filling papers.

The census become so much manipulated - 2006 - the actual census showed they were 200M Nigerian

You can't just increase your population and get more allocation, it's not that simple.
https://economicconfidential.com/2007/04/economic-confidential-27/


200m Nigerians in 2006? And you said we are growing 3-4pct? And still 200m Nigerians 2019? Looks like someone's statistical capacity is limited.

rvp2018:
So if you accept the census are manipulated. You do accept the manipulation is not to reduce the population. Every state for economic and political reason want to appear more populous.

It reanable for me if you at least accept Nigeria population is INFLATED. It less than officially stated. It could be 5 or 10 or 50M inflated.

Just like you also need to accept the GDP is over-stated to make Nigeria Africa top dog while everyone knows Egypt with 100M and zero povery - and South Africa with proper middle class - are just reasonable 350B.

ro
do you also count the ones abroad

See the useless Lagos they are always proud of.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/features/lagos-is-the-8th-most-dangerous-city-in-the-world-for-women-now-what/amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2018/08/lagos-third-worst-city-to-live-in-says-eiu-report/amp/

https://punchng.com/lagos-ranked-2nd-worlds-least-liveable-city/

I have nothing but pity for Nigeria. I'd be a little envious about a progressive country like Ghana.

obaaderemi:
Take your jealousy and grievances to the IMF and world bank and stop crying here where your tears are fruitless.

rvp2018:
There you go with lies. Lagos Airport has since 2015/2016 trailed Nairobi's JKIA in all the statistics - passengers, cargo and flight movement. Nairobi still has one of most busiest airport in Wilson airstrip.

It's sea port also has been overtaken by Mombasa - both Apapa & Tin Can.

For a city with population twice or more Nairobi - Lagos is very poor.

Your lies have been debunked here over and over. I am sure you haven't gotten over the shock that Lagos's port is busier than Mombasa port. Maybe ibrahimanis can help us with that chart again.

Nigeria is doomed

rvp2018:
I have nothing but pity for Nigeria. I'd be a little envious about a progressive country like Ghana.

don't ever compare Ghana with Nigeria.

Compare us with Sudan and Iraq, even Iraq is 50 times Better than us

rvp2018:
I have nothing but pity for Nigeria. I'd be a little envious about a progressive country like Ghana.

I have nothing but pity and fear for the future of Kenya. A country selling only coffee and flowers and yet in debt to it's eyeballs.

I know the formulae has been changing but for federal allocation (oil) and political seats ( I think number of mps) - states have every motive to inflate their population.

200M figure came from NPC insider. The 140M that was finally released was the compromise arrived by all states - basically they projected a credible figure that won't make the laughing stock and kept the % of the previous census intact.

if you give every state the allowance to add 1.5M fake nigerians - then roughly 50M nigerians are fake.

Why do I think Nigerians are 150M. I simply used the telephone subscribers. Those figures are around 140-150m . Kenya which is similar to nigeria has around 45-50M.

That is called CROSS-REFERENCING.

Ibrahimanis:

You can't just increase your population and get more allocation, it's not that simple.
https://economicconfidential.com/2007/04/economic-confidential-27/


200m Nigerians in 2006? And you said we are growing 3-4pct? And still 200m Nigerians 2019? Looks like someone's statistical capacity is limited.

Jonraid:
if it's true that they haven't hold a credible census as of late why would he then trust the numbers? We can only give those numbers a benefit of doubt just because only one body is required to provide the census information! That explains why the WB and other bodies rolled on with the Nigerian figures!

A sensible question there... Nigeria fragile political structure and the Federal Government poor budgetary allocation may be some of the reasons. The only credible statistics we have as of now it is the one from Nigeria bureau of statistics. why? because it is the only government official representative on such account. i agree to some extent, there may be some margins of error, but this error can not be over balloon because of economical implication.

And if you go by the united nations data, Nigeria population is growing by 2 percent per year , so just do tbe calculations with a lesser gap of 20million from 2006 and see what we get, it should give you nothing less than 180 million people.

rvp2018:
I know the formulae has been changing but for federal allocation (oil) and political seats ( I think number of mps) - states have every motive to inflate their population.

200M figure came from NPC insider. The 140M that was finally released was the compromise arrived by all states - basically they projected a credible figure that won't make the laughing stock and kept the % of the previous census intact.

you are very intelligent, I'll tell you the secret.

The northern Nigeria is worthless with no natural resources, they planned with British to join us together even though we have nothing in common.

They inflated their population so they can have 3x more electoral value than the south.

When allocation is been given, they take over 90% of it.

When federal jobs are been given, they take all of it.

But when it's time to fight war, they'll take southern soldiers to go and die

Ibrahimanis:

You can't just increase your population and get more allocation, it's not that simple.
https://economicconfidential.com/2007/04/economic-confidential-27/


200m Nigerians in 2006? And you said we are growing 3-4pct? And still 200m Nigerians 2019? Looks like someone's statistical capacity is limited.

The fool is confused. His obsession with Nigeria has put asunder his brains and his fingers.

There are ways to knows if data is manipulated.

Let me give you one example. Number of telephone/mobile subscription.

Ghana pop is 28-30M. It's active subscriber base is 35M.
Kenya pop is 47-48M. It's active subscriber base is around 46.4m (4th Q of 2018).
Nigera pop is 200M. It's active subscriber base is 169m (4th Q of 2018)

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/12/nigerias-active-telephone-subscription-hits-169m/
Kenya Active subscribe base is 46.4M (https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/analysis/ideas/Ring-up-our-unique-subscribers-for-true-mobile-penetration/4259414-4929584-138mpmc/index.html)

Both these 3 countries have the same profiles - lower -middle class sub-saharan countries.

If you accept Nigeria pop is 200M.

Trust me it's mobile subscriber base would be 250-300M. That is because generally some people will have 2-3 lines.

We already know for a fact that it's population is manipulated and corrupted in the race to get bigger share of oil revenues & political seats at Abuja.

We can therefore conclude that based on mobile subscriptions it numbers are around 150M

That is not an idle guesstimate.

CIA/IMF/WB will never question any country - even Somalia - figures. Those are accepted as fait accompli. If you question any country figures then you'd need 3000 plus pages of arguments.

vaxx:
A sensible question there... Nigeria fragile political structure and the Federal Government poor budgetary allocation may be some of the reasons. The only credible statistics we have as of now it is the one from Nigeria bureau of statistics. why? because it is the only government official representative on such account. i agree to some extent, there may be some margins of error, but this error can not over balloon because of economical implication.

And if you go by the united nations data, Nigeria population is growing by 2 percent per year , so just do tbe calculations with a lesser gap of 20million from 2006 and see what we get, it should give you nothing less than 180 million people.