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Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by kumulus(m): 7:06pm On Jan 27, 2019
Elsah:


Hi, Good afternoon, can i ask you a question? What's your purpose in life?


The purpose is to become one with the universe, the divine essential force, spread love and enlightenment to heal the world having healed me. I believe this is the purpose of all mankind, the message preached by Jesus, Buddha and other enlightened being. Remember in Genesis, man fell when "he became like Us", Us there indicating two or more. Contemplate on the last part with reference to the fall of man in the garden of Pleasure wink
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:09pm On Jan 27, 2019
Elsah:


I hope I get to this point in my life someday.


You hope. Stop hoping! The presence of God is yours to bask in through Jesus Christ. Amen! Jesus has qualified you to dwell in the secret place of the Most High through his precious blood. All you just need is to believe this and you will experience the wind of His presence.
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by Elsah(f): 7:10pm On Jan 27, 2019
kumulus:



The purpose is to become one with the universe, the divine essential force, spread love and enlightenment to heal the world having healed me. I believe this is the purpose of all mankind, the message preached by Jesus, Buddha and other enlightened being. Remember in Genesis, man fell when "he became like Us", Us there indicating two or more. Contemplate on the last part with reference to the fall of man in the garden of Pleasure wink


How do you become one with the universe?
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by Elsah(f): 7:17pm On Jan 27, 2019
bloodofthelamb:


You hope. Stop hoping! The presence of God is yours to bask in through Jesus Christ. Amen! Jesus has qualified you to dwell in the secret place of the Most High through his precious blood. All you just need is to believe this and you will experience the wind of His presence.

cry, it's not that easy. I made some mistakes in my past. I know God has forgiven me, but condemnation won't let me move forward with God. Every new day, i get burdened with guilt, regrets, disappointments and fears. The noises in my head is hindering my fellowship with God and i fear i might be stuck in the past forever. I might never be able to enjoy the presence of God like before, when i was lighthearted. I might never be able to genuinely dwell in the secret place. I think i might have ruined my chance of a happy life. My mind is my enemy now, it used to be my friend before i sinned.
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:31pm On Jan 27, 2019
Elsah:


cry, it's not that easy. I made some mistakes in my past. I know God has forgiven me, but condemnation won't let me move forward with God. Every new day, i get burdened with guilt, regrets, disappointments and fears. The noises in my head is hindering my fellowship with God and i fear i might be stuck in the past forever, i might never be able to enjoy the presence of God like before, when i was lighthearted. I might never be able to genuinely dwell in the secret place. I think i might have ruined my chance of a happy life.

You are breaking my heart. I don't care about your past mistakes. As a matter of fact they are irrelevant today. God is not counting your mistakes against you for he already counted all of it in the body of Jesus Christ our scape goat. It is only foolish to condemn yourself, when God is not condemning you.

You have to believe that God is not condemning you and that through the finish and perfect work of Jesus, you are now the righteousness of God. The key to peace is seeing yourself in your minds eye the way God sees you through the accepted sacrifice of his Son. Grace and peace beloved!
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by kumulus(m): 7:42pm On Jan 27, 2019
Elsah:



How do you become one with the universe?

Be still and know that I am God. His words not mine!


Listen to the world around you, the sounds of nature, people, animals. Look upon the beauty within ( the sensations, feelings, thoughts (even the darkest ones) and emotions in your body ) and without as well, these are the excellencies of God!
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by Elsah(f): 8:03pm On Jan 27, 2019
bloodofthelamb:


You are breaking my heart. I don't care about your past mistakes. As a matter of fact they are irrelevant today. God is not counting your mistakes against you for he already counted all of it in the body of Jesus Christ our scape goat. It is only foolish to condemn yourself, when God is not condemning you.

You have to believe that God is not condemning you and that through the finish and perfect work of Jesus, you are now the righteousness of God. The key to peace is seeing yourself in your minds eye the way God sees you through the accepted sacrifice of his Son. Grace and peace beloved!

I don't want to condemn myself but my mind which used to be my friend has become my enemy, and is working against my progress with God. It's not easy to just 'think in a certain kind of way' because you asked me to do so. I know all these things. I just can't think them. Jeez, I wish I could just go back to my past to erase it, so, i can just concentrate on the present.
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by Elsah(f): 8:05pm On Jan 27, 2019
kumulus:


Be still and know that I am God. His words not mine!


Listen to the world around you, the sounds of nature, people, animals. Look upon the beauty within ( the sensations, feelings, thoughts (even the darkest ones) and emotions in your body ) and without as well, these are the excellencies of God!

So, this is your purpose in life? cry, Something is missing.
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by bloodofthelamb(m): 8:15pm On Jan 27, 2019
Elsah:


I don't want to condemn myself but my mind which used to be my friend has become my enemy, and is working against my progress with God. It's not easy to just 'think in a certain kind of way' because you asked me to do so. I know all these things. I just can't think them. Jeez, I wish I could just go back to my past to erase it, so, i can just concentrate on the present.

A man/woman who is not in control of his/her thoughts is like a city without walls. It is your responsibility to guard your heart with all diligence. You have to fight the good fight of faith. Knowing that we are righteous forever through the once and for all time sacrifice of Jesus is our arsenal

We have a choice. We have the previledge to choose what our beautiful mind brood upon. Make the right choice dear!
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by GreatAchiever1: 8:19pm On Jan 27, 2019
Elsah:


cry, it's not that easy. I made some mistakes in my past. I know God has forgiven me, but condemnation won't let me move forward with God. Every new day, i get burdened with guilt, regrets, disappointments and fears. The noises in my head is hindering my fellowship with God and i fear i might be stuck in the past forever. I might never be able to enjoy the presence of God like before, when i was lighthearted. I might never be able to genuinely dwell in the secret place. I think i might have ruined my chance of a happy life. My mind is my enemy now, it used to be my friend before i sinned.

Go listen to the song start over by nf feat flame.(its a rap song but still dope) cheesy

I pray u will get back ur happy life.
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by kumulus(m): 8:23pm On Jan 27, 2019
Elsah:


So, this is your purpose in life? cry, Something is missing.

Told you what it is in my previous response not this one you're quoting. If it is so, what could be missing?
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by kumulus(m): 8:44pm On Jan 27, 2019
bloodofthelamb:


A man/woman who is not in control of his/her thoughts is like a city without walls. It is your responsibility to guard your heart with all diligence. You have to fight the good fight of faith. Knowing that we are righteous forever through the once and for all time sacrifice of Jesus is our arsenal

We have a choice. We have the previledge to choose what our beautiful mind brood upon. Make the right choice dear!



We don't always have that choice to choose what holds in the mind, you just mentioned it's a city without walls and anyone can walk in anytime. The only choice is to either identify with your mental formations or not to identify with them.
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by Elsah(f): 8:49pm On Jan 27, 2019
kumulus:


Told you what it is in my previous response not this one you're quoting. If it is so, what could be missing?

I don't know, i just feel there could be more
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by Elsah(f): 8:51pm On Jan 27, 2019
GreatAchiever1:


Go listen to the song start over by nf feat flame.(its a rap song but still dope) cheesy

I pray u will get back ur happy life.

Thanks, I'll download it.
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by bloodofthelamb(m): 8:56pm On Jan 27, 2019
kumulus:




We don't always have that choice to choose what holds in the mind, you just mentioned it's a city without walls and anyone can walk in anytime. The only choice is to either identify with your mental formations or not to identify with them.

We do have a choice of what hold sway in our minds. I am always conscious of what I think about. My mind is always broading upon one New Covenant truth or another.
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by Elsah(f): 9:08pm On Jan 27, 2019
kumulus:




We don't always have that choice to choose what holds in the mind, you just mentioned it's a city without walls and anyone can walk in anytime. The only choice is to either identify with your mental formations or not to identify with them.

Thank God you understand. I want to choose what i think, I've been struggling. It's been really hard for me. As i was walking to church today, my mind kept telling me I'm a failure. Why would i want to think this normally?
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by Elsah(f): 9:10pm On Jan 27, 2019
bloodofthelamb:


We do have a choice of what hold sway in our minds. I am always conscious of what I think about. My mind is always broading upon one New Covenant truth or another.

It's because nothing is disturbing you undecided. Your life is going well.
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by kumulus(m): 10:34pm On Jan 27, 2019
Elsah:


I don't know, i just feel there could be more


Could there be anything greater than being One with the Truth/God/Infinite Divine/Indestructible Light.....however you choose to represent the One? I told you to read and understand the book of Genesis 3 and you'll see the problem of man and the solution. The state of Oneness, of Being, the Christ nature is the promised heaven....
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by Elsah(f): 10:39pm On Jan 27, 2019
kumulus:



Could there be anything greater than being One with the Truth/God/Infinite Divine/Indestructible Light.....however you choose to represent the One? I told you to read and understand the book of Genesis 3 and you'll see the problem of man and the solution. The state of Oneness, of Being, the Christ nature is the promised heaven....

Hmm, deep.
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by kumulus(m): 11:01pm On Jan 27, 2019
bloodofthelamb:


We do have a choice of what hold sway in our minds. I am always conscious of what I think about. My mind is always broading upon one New Covenant truth or another.


We do have a choice on what hold sway but not on what holds(enters). Remember, of all that was created the serpent is the most cunning. The serpent here is simply the symbolism used to identify that which "creeps up on you" (manifestations of the mind), that's why humans blame every wrong doing easily of the devil ( Serpent-> Cunning-> Devious-> Devil )

Looking at the words used, you sir, will do well to reconsider your assertion. Peace to you brother!


**The initial response seem to be more detailed than this but the network failed in sending it

Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by kumulus(m): 11:10pm On Jan 27, 2019
Elsah:


Thank God you understand. I want to choose what i think, I've been struggling. It's been really hard for me. As i was walking to church today, my mind kept telling me I'm a failure. Why would i want to think this normally?


In truth, you can only choose to be conscious of your thoughts...can one really choose what he thinks at all times? Even when in church I've had some of the darkest thoughts but I just smile at them lol cos I know that's not me, those are just the elements of my mind. And this truth becomes easily acceptable when you understand 'your mind' hasn't always been your responsibility, it was nurtured by too many circumstances, guardians, situations and the likes. Life is easy my dear, you suffer because you crave. In wanting not to think evil thoughts, you've initiated and began thinking about them....kinda twisted but simple, I know
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by Elsah(f): 8:29am On Jan 28, 2019
kumulus:



In truth, you can only choose to be conscious of your thoughts...can one really choose what he thinks at all times? Even when in church I've had some of the darkest thoughts but I just smile at them lol cos I know that's not me, those are just the elements of my mind. And this truth becomes easily acceptable when you understand 'your mind' hasn't always been your responsibility, it was nurtured by too many circumstances, guardians, situations and the likes. Life is easy my dear, you suffer because you crave. In wanting not to think evil thoughts, you've initiated and began thinking about them....kinda twisted but simple, I know

Wow.....Like...I'm really feeling you. So, how do I 'not' think these things?' What do i do?
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by kumulus(m): 11:34am On Jan 28, 2019
Elsah:


Wow.....Like...I'm really feeling you. So, how do I 'not' think these things?' What do i do?


Seriously, all the girls that 'really felt' me came back preggies grin grin


The way is to observe them, listen to them, watch them and love them. Do you really have to fight them? Resisting them only means negation to what 'is', negation is suffering and that's why you get drained of essential energy just because you 'don't' want to think your thoughts. That's why Jesus said to watch and pray, ask yourself "to watch what exactly?"

1 Peter 5:8 - Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour

Luke 21:36 - Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Mark 14:38 - Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak.

Nonawareness is chance your mind is waiting for to take charge and control you, once you are awake there's no problem. Just be awake/aware, leave the thoughts be.
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by Elsah(f): 1:05pm On Jan 28, 2019
kumulus:



Seriously, all the girls that 'really felt' me came back preggies grin grin


The way is to observe them, listen to them, watch them and love them. Do you really have to fight them? Resisting them only means negation to what 'is', negation is suffering and that's why you get drained of essential energy just because you 'don't' want to think your thoughts. That's why Jesus said to watch and pray, ask yourself "to watch what exactly?"

1 Peter 5:8 - Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour

Luke 21:36 - Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Mark 14:38 - Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak.

Nonawareness is chance your mind is waiting for to take charge and control you, once you are awake there's no problem. Just be awake/aware, leave the thoughts be.

How do you stay awake?
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by kumulus(m): 1:19pm On Jan 28, 2019
Elsah:


How do you stay awake?


Check out materials on mindfulness, you can start here....

Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by Elsah(f): 3:45pm On Jan 28, 2019
kumulus:



Check out materials on mindfulness, you can start here....

Pls can you give me a direct answer, pending the time i get to read the book.
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by kumulus(m): 4:56pm On Jan 28, 2019
Elsah:


Pls can you give me a direct answer, pending the time i get to read the book.


Elsah ooo...how direct can I be again? Ok, by being present in the Now. Start with focusing on your in-breathe and out-breathe, notice every sound, movement, thoughts, actions, responses, reactions you make and those of people around you. Make eating your meals a ritual of some sort, slowly chew your food to almost completely liquid state before swallowing, move out into nature to listen to birds sing, insects chirp and the breeze flow. If there's a river near by or a waterbody go listen to the sound of the flowing water, in doing all these things be intensely concentrated on what you're doing at the moment. Take good notice of every detail of each action, sensation, smell, taste, emotion, thought, whatever is going on at each moment...be completely aware of it.
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by Elsah(f): 5:17pm On Jan 28, 2019
kumulus:



Elsah ooo...how direct can I be again? Ok, by being present in the Now. Start with focusing on your in-breathe and out-breathe, notice every sound, movement, thoughts, actions, responses, reactions you make and those of people around you. Make eating your meals a ritual of some sort, slowly chew your food to almost completely liquid state before swallowing, move out into nature to listen to birds sing, insects chirp and the breeze flow. If there's a river near by or a waterbody go listen to the sound of the flowing water, in doing all these things be intensely concentrated on what you're doing at the moment. Take good notice of every detail of each action, sensation, smell, taste, emotion, thought, whatever is going on at each moment...be completely aware of it.


Wow. I now understand. I'm trying the breathing in and out. It's working. This is very helpful!

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Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by kumulus(m): 6:37pm On Jan 28, 2019
Elsah:



Wow. I now understand. I'm trying the breathing in and out. It's working. This is very helpful!


Happy you found it helpful, should be a smooth ride from here on I believe.... sending you good vibes for the evening
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:31pm On Jan 28, 2019
Elsah:


It's because nothing is disturbing you undecided. Your life is going well.

Not so. Even in the midst of life disturbance, I have chosen to blessed the Lord at all times and to see myself the exact way the Father sees me through the finished work of Jesus Christ.
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by Nobody: 7:37pm On Jan 28, 2019
bloodofthelamb:


Not so. Even in the midst of life disturbance, I have chosen to blessed the Lord at all times and to see myself the exact way the Father sees me through the finished work of Jesus Christ.
yes o brother. A friend of my would say "it is better to walk with Jesus on a dark road than to walk alone on a bright road.
Re: Christians Are Hypocrites! What A Shame!! by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:40pm On Jan 28, 2019
kumulus:



In truth, you can only choose to be conscious of your thoughts...can one really choose what he thinks at all times? Even when in church I've had some of the darkest thoughts but I just smile at them lol cos I know that's not me, those are just the elements of my mind. And this truth becomes easily acceptable when you understand 'your mind' hasn't always been your responsibility, it was nurtured by too many circumstances, guardians, situations and the likes. Life is easy my dear, you suffer because you crave. In wanting not to think evil thoughts, you've initiated and began thinking about them....kinda twisted but simple, I know


We can choose our thoughts. We can choose want we think about. Though some thought may come to us through information we see or hear but we have the choice to chew them or spit them out.

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