₦airaland Forum

NothingDoMe:
You have spoken well. I love your points and I was almost convinced but I remember that sometime back I was ready for Nigeria to break up. We move one step forward and two steps backward. At the rate we are going I think it is time for foreign intervention. The black man has no idea what to do with power asides from oppressing fellow citizens and looting.

Many hate America but I judge a man by his actions not by propaganda. The reason I believe in them is because of the way they treat their citizens. If you treat your kids well, I won't doubt your intentions when you also take care of other kids that are not yours.

I laugh everytime is hear America is after something especially from the Arabs or eastern countries. Na dem dey rush go America go live. War broke out in Syria and over 30,000 of them headed to Canada. Why not live in any Eastern or European nation? You ran straight to America and Canada? Who nor like better thing?

Nigerian government loots and takes money to America. Their family and kids dey America. Many Nigerian kids now have dual citizenship. So it's not a foreign matter again. We have stake in America and they have stakes here.

They love their citizens and the government was shutdown for 35days, making life difficult for the people they swore to protect and serve all because of a stupid Mexican wall.

rhidollah:
They love their citizens and the government was shutdown for 35days, making life difficult for the people they swore to protect and serve all because of a stupid Mexican wall.

Don't mind him jare,have already replied him accordingly.

ABSAO:
it's like you are an advocate of foreign intervention on a sovereign nation. anyway, I'm not convinced about your point that America do treat her citizens well.If I may ask,are black American not their citizens?' Read history and see how they are treated!.
Going by your point, you don't believe in one Nigeria and that's why you are missing my point.
America is a bloody hypocrite, they are quick to take action on Venezuela and any other countries that refuse to be their puppet by citing alleged human right violation and anti Democratic behavior of these Nations and at the same time the closest ally of Saudi Arabia_a notorious human right violator and a very anti Democratic regime.
Do you know under US law,anybody can be jailed under US material witness law without charges even if the person involved knows nothing about the Case!
Do you know John Bolton have been threatening ICC not to investigate Afghanistan war?
Are these not human right and international law violations?
The question now is who responsible for checkmating US misbehavior if everybody allows them to world police?
Can US allow foreign intervention on their affairs?
Why are they doing that to other if not because of self interest?
What are neutral international community like UN for?.
I repeat, US has no right to interfere into any nation internal affairs!.

I am an advocate because sovereignty is not in paper alone. Nigeria still imports materials for her international passport. I just start laughing anytime I think about it.

I desperately want Nigeria to grow because Nigeria is much more than a bunch of tyrants and illiterates have made her to be. When other nations are competing in technology amongst themselves we are here practicing a useless quota system. We are celebrity mediocrity in our educational system.

Now, most people believe that marriage shouldn't be with external intervention. But external intervention has saved a lot of marriages. Many marriages crashed because no one intervened. That's why I believe Nigeria is very ripe for foreign intervention.

NothingDoMe:
I am an advocate because sovereignty is not in paper alone. Nigeria still imports materials for her international passport. I just start laughing anytime I think about it.

I desperately want Nigeria to grow because Nigeria is much more than a bunch of tyrants and illiterates have made her to be. When other nations are competing in technology amongst themselves we are here practicing a useless quota system. We are celebrity mediocrity in our educational system.

Now, most people believe that marriage shouldn't be with external intervention. But external intervention has saved a lot of marriages. Many marriages crashed because no one intervened. That's why I believe Nigeria is very ripe for foreign intervention.

You did a very good job in enumerating our problems but all you listed here don't need any foreign intervention before it can be solved.
Remember China didn't call for any "unreasonable" foreign intervention before they came out of wood. It's very disgusting seeing people protesting in front on foreign embassies calling for intervention on internal issues.

ABSAO:
You did a very good job in enumerating our problems but all you listed here don't need any foreign intervention before it can be solved.
Remember China didn't call for any "unreasonable" foreign intervention before they came out of wood. It's very disgusting seeing people protesting in front on foreign embassies calling for intervention on internal issues.

Well I saw the protests coming and that provides part of the evidence for foreign intervention.

Whoever the Chinese leader was, he was straightforward. Tell me the truth, has the master corruption fighter shown any proper corruption fight other than going after the opposition.

Unfortunately everything is politics. Whether local or international. If the local politics is becoming extreme, you go higher to international politics. So don't blame the protesters. They've simply taken it a notch higher. We are now playing a mixture of both types of politics.

NothingDoMe:
Well I saw the protests coming and that provides part of the evidence for foreign intervention.

Whoever the Chinese leader was, he was straightforward. Tell me the truth, has the master corruption fighter shown any proper corruption fight other than going after the opposition.

Unfortunately everything is politics. Whether local or international. If the local politics is becoming extreme, you go higher to international politics. So don't blame the protesters. They've simply taken it a notch higher. We are now playing a mixture of both types of politics.

It's like both of us can't find common ground to agree,we so much believe in our opinion. let's give others chance to express themselves too.

i dont think it can happen in nigeria....military will just beat everybody up and take over themselves....

una seem to forget who the nigerian army is....

give them the chance and they will take it....

and their is nothing una international moroons can do about it....

ABSAO:





What are these guys above me saying? What's happening in Venezuela shouldn't be allowed to happen here. No country across the the world has any right to endorse any government in other country under international law! What the wests are doing there is pure nonsense! Nigerians must revolt against any other country from meddling into our internal affairs.
In fact we need to ban some international observer of any country that cannot allow our observers too to observe her election.
If at all we have any form of irregularities in our in our internal affairs, our judiciary is strong enough to address that and if our judiciary doesn't function as expected,we have international community like UN,ICC and AU to address our issues. if refused to mention EU because they serve and protect our interest!
Nigerians rise up and protect the interest and sovereignty of our great nation!.

trash of irrelevancy, what is great about Nigeria? is it the hidden killing,maiming of innocent soldiers in the north east or what exactly

ccollins:
trash of irrelevancy, what is great about Nigeria? is it the hidden killing,maiming of innocent soldiers in the north east or what exactly

Mr.man you have done a great job in listing some of our problems, the question now is does that call for for foreign intervention? Or are you so daft to understand that foreign nations cannot protect our interest for us? They will rather extort us!.


P.S:learn how to argue without insults!

ABSAO:
You did a very good job in enumerating our problems but all you listed here don't need any foreign intervention before it can be solved.
Remember China didn't call for any "unreasonable" foreign intervention before they came out of wood. It's very disgusting seeing people protesting in front on foreign embassies calling for intervention on internal issues.

Bro, you can't compare the brain of an average Chinese citizen with that of a Nigerian.



Nigeria CAN NEVER get out of this backwardness, not in this lifetime. A useless president that called his citizens 5% should have been impeached asap.


I support the intervention of Foreign countries like USA because the UN,ICC and the rest bodies are too docile and weak.


The system is already damaged beyond repair. We need to be recolonised and our constitution rewritten by our colonial masters.

Pekele007:
Bro, you can't compare the brain of an average Chinese citizen with that of a Nigerian.



Nigeria CAN NEVER get out of this backwardness, not in this lifetime. A useless president that called his citizens 5% should have been impeached asap.


I support the intervention of Foreign countries like USA because the UN,ICC and the rest bodies are too docile and weak.


The system is already damaged beyond repair. We need to be recolonised and our constitution rewritten by our colonial masters.

Fine, if US intervene now,are you 100% sure they Will protect our interest?
If our colonial official should rewrite our constitution for us,will they write to our advantage or their advantage?
These are just simple logical questions!.
Also,never say the Chinese are better than us! We are all human being. No one is better! That's racist of you.

Nigeria and Venezuela have a lot in common. Both are oil producing countries being afflicted by the 'Dutch disease'. They are being led by undemocratic entities who are using the state machinery to terrorize the system and force themselves on the people. The records of these entities in goverment are woeful, leading to deaths, insecurity, repression of opposition, high cost of living, mass exodus of people out of the countries and capital flight.

Expectedly, in any democratlc environment, leaders with these very very bad records are supposed to be changed through electoral process by the people who feel the pains themselves but that has not happened in Venezuela and there are feelers that Buhari is not going to allow it to happen in Nigeria.

Under normal conditions, with free and fair and transparent elections, Buhari cannot win next month's election even in Katsina State, because by human nature, no one would choose a leader who cannot provide the most basic of necessities, food and security. No human being will support someone who doesn't evoke hope but spreading poverty everywhere because he said he wants to build train.

So, what Buhari would normally do giving his monumental failure in his first term to entrench himself in office is to manipulate the system and rig the elections. Otherwise, how does the whole world explain the actions of Buhari with the electoral process concerning key individuals who are significant to the outcome of the elections?

His relation has been strategically positioned at INEC collation room while the backend is being prepared to accommodate the electoral shenanigans with the removal of the CJN. His government's 'main economic policy' has been categorized as vote buying by an international organization.

The same Buhari we were told 'ordered' the Inspector General of Police to withhold the arraignment of Senator Adeleke for alleged certificate forgery because of the imminence of his election in Osun State till after the election, so that sinister motives won't be read into it. How come he now feels that the arraignment of the CJN illegally is appropriate on the eve of his own election if not because he has sinister intentions?

In view of these developments, Buhari's actions have been rightly seen by the international community as trying to force himself back into office.

If that happens, his legitimacy would be questioned and may lead to the Venezuelan scenario (or similar) in order to save the people from hardship.

Civilized humanity should not sit by and allow people die of hunger and daily violence just because someone said he wants to build train.

ABSAO:
Fine, if US intervene now,are you 100% sure they Will protect our interest?
If our colonial official should rewrite our constitution for us,will they write to our advantage or their advantage?
These are just simple logical questions!.
Also,never say the Chinese are better than us! We are all human being. No one is better! That's racist of you.

If they aren't better than us, what's stopping our country from developing even to the level of ordinary South Africa in Africa here?

I know you are trying to be patriotic but the truth is that this country can't work anymore....USA should intervene as soon as possible joor.

Pocoloco:
Greetings to everyone here.I believe most of you here are familiar with the political crisis going on in Venezuela as the opposition candidate decides to swear himself in as the country's leader with the support of the US and other countries against the country's elected leader Maduro which Russia,China and other countries are supporting.Now assuming after the election and Buhari happens to be elected as the president and after that atiku decides to swear himself in as the country's president do you think the US will consider Buhari as an illegitime leader and endorse Atiku instead?

Go read up on Venezuela. It is not the equivalent of Atiku who took over! Juan Guaidó is the 35-year-old leader of Venezuela’s opposition-controlled national assembly. Effectively, he is the equivalent of defected Saraki, Mr O To Ge!

Now you just imagine how Nigerians would react if Saraki could possibly kick out Buhari. Going by us here on NL, I predict we would be shooting each other already! And I doubt any nation would endorse him anyway.

Pekele007:
If they aren't better than us, what's stopping our country from developing even to the level of ordinary South Africa in Africa here?

I know you are trying to be patriotic but the truth is that this country can't work anymore....USA should intervene as soon as possible joor.

you haven't answer my questions.

ABSAO:
Your analysis on Nigeria issue is very perfect! but on Venezuela, I'm sorry I disagree with you. The current crisis was fuelled by the West and I'm telling they can't overthrow Maduro .They did More than that to Ugo Chavez and he survived!
The US has already called for security council meeting on the issue and they won't the support they needed for their intervention cos Russian and China which are permanent member of UN security council will veto it.Venezuela and Nigeria case are different. In the case of Nigeria, let Nigerian determine Buhari's fate we don't need foreign intervention now.
The case of CJN case be settled internally, I hate the way the opposition are tagging the US to intervene on our issue. This is bad and archaic.
We the citizens are the one that suppose to resist external aggression but sadly we are the one calling for it.Foreign countries Will never protect our interest! we have NJC,NASS and indigenous human right organization that can protect our interest! we need to believe in them! we need hail them and make them look powerful and worthy of being called for intervention by other other nations!! But if we don't do this who will do it for us?!
Nigerians!!! Stop tagging this people on our national issue, we are capable of solving it ourselves.
Also,the ruling party and opposition should know that our national interest superceed other interest and we should always protect irregardless of any other interest!.

what Nigerian don't understand is the puppet game the opposition is playing is going to be at the detriment of the sovereignty this country. hence, they don't care to dine with the devil to get their goal. US always protect the interest of their coperate organisations and companies not the other way round. take time and look at their trend in various countries and you would see they only take side in any country (Sudan, Syria, Iraq, Venezuela, crimea etc all has oil) with resources in our own case too crude oil just like the venezula, and US would only ally with any be it the incumbent or the opposition that support the usurping of the resources in their country.

chillex77:
what Nigerian don't understand is the puppet game the opposition is playing is going to be at the detriment of the sovereignty this country. hence, they don't care to dine with the devil to get their goal. US always protect the interest of their coperate organisations and companies not the other way round. take time and look at their trend in various countries and you would see they only take side in any country (Sudan, Syria, Iraq, Venezuela, crimea etc all has oil) with resources in our own case too crude oil just like the venezula, and US would only ally with any be it the incumbent or the opposition that support the usurping of the resources in their country.

Very sound analysis! I'm happy I see some Nigerians know the evil Foreign intervention especially from US is capable of doing to us!

ABSAO:
you haven't answer my questions.

The new constitution will serve our own interests of course.


They only need to correct and block some loopholes that we can never amend till eternity.


Bro, Nigeria is finished.

Pekele007:
The new constitution will serve our own interests of course.


They only need to correct and block some loopholes that we can never amend till eternity.


Bro, Nigeria is finished.

You are already making mockery of yourself

ABSAO:
You are already making mockery of yourself

Then wait till Jesus returns before Nigeria will be able to move an inch forward.