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How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by Nobody: 11:02pm On Jan 30, 2019
Question: "How should Christians view Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?"

Answer: Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) is a web-originated social movement centered on men’s rights. Men who identify as MGTOW are typically single, straight, and focused on being who they want to be without the “entanglements” of relationships with women. Men Going Their Own Way is sometimes referred to as the marriage strike, the marriage boycott, or the sexodus. MGTOW men claim to understand the “games” women play in relationships, and they refuse to play. Their website says that MGTOW “is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else.” It is seen by many as a reaction against the changes that feminism has made to society.
Women and society are the major targets of MGTOW’s fight. Men Going Their Own Way believes women take advantage of men for sex and money and then “burn” them. They also believe society at large has turned against men, as evidenced by family and divorce court rulings that favor women over men. Feminists, “White Knights” (men who are chivalrous toward women), social justice warriors, the deep state, and LGBTQ advocates are all seen as enemies of any man who simply wants to “be a man.”

There are several levels of involvement in MGTOW. The most actualized MGTOW is called a Level 4. These men shun all relationships with women and the “blue-pill world” (members of their movement are “red-pilled,” and men outside of or opposed to their movement are “blue-pilled”—a reference to Neo’s choice to understand the true nature of the world in the movie The Matrix ). Instead of bowing to society’s expectations of what men should do, they live on their own terms. A MGTOW at Level 4 interacts with society only as much as is required for him to survive. The lowest level of MGTOW is Level 0. Men in this category are aware of the problems with society and women yet believe these realities are worth the risk. Level 1 men reject all forms of long-term personal relationships with women, including marriage, cohabitation, common-law marriage, and any other association that might be used in court to turn him into a woman’s “servant.” A Level 2 man rejects all personal relationships with women—long-term and short-term—even casual ones. Any contact with women is kept strictly professional and to a minimum. Level 3’s have the same views as Level 1’s and 2’s, plus they refuse to produce more than is strictly necessary for society so that economic production and taxation revenue can fall drastically.
Christians know God made mankind as male and female and that marriage is God’s idea ( Genesis 1:27 ; Mark 10:6–9 ). Marriage is an honorable estate, and the marriage bed should be kept pure (Hebrews 13:4 ). The battle of the sexes and the problems that occur within relationships are due to sin and the fact that people refuse to follow God’s blueprint for marriage (see Ephesians 5:22–33 ). When one follows God’s instructions and intention for relationships, nobody gets “burned.”
MGTOW correctly identifies some problems in society—the blurring of gender lines, for instance—and responds in the wrong way. The MGTOW website, as well as their presence on social media, is full of vulgar language and hostility toward women. The feel of much of it is misogynic. MGTOW also seems to have issues with authority. They want to be autonomous and free to exercise supreme authority. Their website states that MGTOW “is the manifestation of one word: ‘No.’” Rejecting modern culture’s definition of manhood, they refuse “to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility.” The MGTOW man looks out for number one, “living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn’t.”
Second Timothy 3:2–4 warns us that in the last days “people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God.” MGTOW demonstrates this selfishness by glorifying self-autonomy and rejecting God-ordained relationships. They do not follow God’s intentions for relationships, women, and society. Many MGTOW men may have been hurt in the past; some have undoubtedly been treated unfairly, but the answer is not to embrace selfishness, cultivate anger, turn against women, and relinquish responsibility. The answer is forgiveness in Jesus Christ.

God loves women and men equally. He desires that all repent of their sins and come into relationship with Him through faith in Jesus ( 2 Peter 3:9 ). God also desires men and women to have loving and meaningful relationships ( John 13:34–35; Hebrews 10:24–25 ). The Christian life is not a solo existence or a gender-divided venture. Both men and women are made in God’s image ( Genesis 1:27 ); we reflect Him best when we relate in a healthy, respectful manner.

Christians should view the MGTOW movement for what it is: a reflection of the human sin nature. MGTOW would like for us to respond to the inequalities men face with a focus on self-interest and apathy to the needs of women. Christian men need to take on their God-ordained roles with patient endurance. They need to love their wives unconditionally and “not become weary in doing good” ( Galatians 6:9 ).
Those who are caught up in the MGTOW movement are enslaved and devastated by sin. They need our prayers. They need to be “rooted and established in love [and] have power, together with all the Lord’s holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ” ( Ephesians 3:17–18 ). It is only that love that can turn men going their own way to men going God’s way.
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by Nobody: 11:20pm On Jan 30, 2019
Oh wow...just saw this thread and decided to give my input here as well.
I've been reading about this phenonmenon recently and see it as very problematic...
It's not good cause just like the world's definition of "feminisim" is tainted...so is this.
It looks, ultimately, like a war on Godly "relationships" between men and women...
The war is on secular relationships for sure...but I have to look from a spiritual angle...and see where this is leading to...the destruction of the family.
Cause see if males think like this, it's almost as if they're usurping their God given role....of needing (IN MOST CASES) a help-meet.
It almost seems like a role-reversal going on between men and women.
We lose God...we lose families...we lose church...we lose community.
It seems like a focus on "self"..focus on "pride"..
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by CoolUsername: 12:11am On Jan 31, 2019
Loool, never thought I'd see day where mgtow gets mentioned on this side of the internet.
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by ValCon888: 3:08am On Jan 31, 2019
CoolUsername:
Loool, never thought I'd see day where mgtow gets mentioned on this side of the internet.
Like seriously
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by luvmijeje(f): 4:37am On Jan 31, 2019
They must be based out of Africa. The day the African women become more enlightened, we'll also see there here.

They are crying over losing the unmerited advantages religion, society and tradition have bestowed upon them. They are used to women who sees and treat them as gods.
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by Nobody: 7:23am On Jan 31, 2019
luvmijeje:
They must be based out of Africa. The day the African women become more enlightened, we'll also see there here.

They are crying over losing the unmerited advantages religion, society and tradition have bestowed upon them. They are used to women who sees and treat them as gods.
you are wrong, it is not from Africa. What do you call enlightenment? Feminism?
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by luvmijeje(f):
solite3:
you are wrong, it is not from Africa. What do you call enlightenment? Feminism?
A society that doesn't silent the voice of the women and give them the same opportunity as the men to fulfill their dreams.
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by Nobody: 3:47pm On Jan 31, 2019
luvmijeje:
A society that doesn't silent the voice of the women and give them the same opportunity as the men to fulfill their dreams.
who make up the society? Who gave men the opportunity to fulfill their dreams? Who stops the woman?
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by Nobody: 4:28pm On Jan 31, 2019
Gosh MgTow is a growing problem in the west. Alot of these men are hurt, bitter, and angry but instead of getting healing , they promote these ideologies that go on to hurt their own communities. Some critics say that the origins of Mgtow is more sinister in nature, with the design to keep the design of the family unit in shambles but I cant say for sure. Its interesting that it's being talked about on this forum.
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by Nobody: 4:31pm On Jan 31, 2019
Backfornow:
Gosh MgTow is a growing problem in the west. Alot of these men are hurt, bitter, and angry but instead of getting healing , they promote these ideologies that go on to hurt their own communities. Some critics say that the origins of Mgtow is more sinister in nature, with the design to keep the design of the family unit in shambles but I cant say for sure. Its interesting that it's being talked about on this forum.
year you know some just copy anything from the west regardless of the consequences
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by CoolUsername: 6:41pm On Jan 31, 2019
I don't really see the problem with mgtow in theory. If you feel that you don't need to be in a committed relationship to enjoy your life, that's your decision.

But in practice, too a lot of the people who identify as mgtow are just butthurt virgins who would flip once they get laid.
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by luvmijeje(f): 9:18am On Feb 01, 2019
solite3:
who make up the society? Who gave men the opportunity to fulfill their dreams? Who stops the woman?
You who tells them that at end of all their achievements, they will still end up in the kitchen. You who tells them, that as soon they are married, they cease to exist. Their husband's dreams becomes their dream. To have a successful marriage, they must be submissive, they must be quiet, they must be silent. That the success and the failure of a marriage lies with the woman. You who see the cheating by a man as normal and the cheating by women as a crime. You who tells us that a woman should relies on the man for his survival but failed to realize in doing that, one loses her voice and loses her worth.

You who blamed us for being rape. You who tells us that we are second class citizen because Eve committed a sin. You who told us that Adam came first into this world so we must all be subjected to a man. You who segregate the women from important position because you think they are not good enough. You who tells them that no woman should be a leader over men. You. You. You.
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by SKhanmi: 1:02pm On Feb 01, 2019
Look at the big picture folks. They are both right & wrong in their own ways. But look to the endgame. It's to destabilize society & civilization. Keep them busy while important changes are made. While majority of humanity slides more into different types of shackles. War,isms,climate changes etc are all deliberate diversions in an elaborate agenda. The domaination of the human race.

By the way,that lady is hilarious,your Bible supported & endorsed the patriarchy, Abeg add them Bible writers & prophets & God sef to your (YOU). Raging against YOU and has a quote displayed from their books. It's funny
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by Nobody: 3:59pm On Feb 01, 2019
luvmijeje:
You who tells them that at end of all their achievements, they will still end up in the kitchen. You who tells them, that as soon they are married, they cease to exist. Their husband's dreams becomes their dream. To have a successful marriage, they must be submissive, they must be quiet, they must be silent. That the success and the failure of a marriage lies with the woman. You who see the cheating by a man as normal and the cheating by women as a crime. You who tells us that a woman should relies on the man for his survival but failed to realize in doing that, one loses her voice and loses her worth.

You who blamed us for being rape. You who tells us that we are second class citizen because Eve committed a sin. You who told us that Adam came first into this world so we must all be subjected to a man. You who segregate the women from important position because you think they are not good enough. You who tells them that no woman should be a leader over men. You. You. You.
All of those above mentioned examples are really unfortunate and saddening....
If you look at the situation from this above-mentioned angle, (which I have read repeatedly on this site in tons of threads/articles) then that is abusive and a gross misinterpretation of the Christ-centered ideal of a family.

I have read those mind-sets so many times here on NL..but then you have extremes in the U.S. as well.
There's no balance....and that's one of the top (3) biggest problems.
Culture has transcended religion--which is problematic-- (specifically Christianity) although a patriarchal mind-set dominates most religions.
Culture has pervaded the true biblical definition..
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by Nobody: 4:56pm On Feb 01, 2019
luvmijeje:
You who tells them that at end of all their achievements, they will still end up in the kitchen. You who tells them, that as soon they are married, they cease to exist. Their husband's dreams becomes their dream. To have a successful marriage, they must be submissive, they must be quiet, they must be silent. That the success and the failure of a marriage lies with the woman. You who see the cheating by a man as normal and the cheating by women as a crime. You who tells us that a woman should relies on the man for his survival but failed to realize in doing that, one loses her voice and loses her worth.

You who blamed us for being rape. You who tells us that we are second class citizen because Eve committed a sin. You who told us that Adam came first into this world so we must all be subjected to a man. You who segregate the women from important position because you think they are not good enough. You who tells them that no woman should be a leader over men. You. You. You.
I don't call fornication or adultery cheating. It is what it is?
Who says sexual immorality is right?
Who says rape is right?
In Christian marriage the man is head of his home.
There is nothing wrong with the kitchen. Is there?

A woman with a quiet and humble spirit is of great worth.

Thsee contention we are seeing is because of pride

Proverbs 13:10
Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom.

Proverbs 16:18
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by Nobody: 5:00pm On Feb 01, 2019
Mobilia:
All of those above mentioned examples are really unfortunate and saddening....
If you look at the situation from this above-mentioned angle, (which I have read repeatedly on this site in tons of threads/articles) then that is abusive and a gross misinterpretation of the Christ-centered ideal of a family.

I have read those mind-sets so many times here on NL..but then you have extremes in the U.S. as well.
There's no balance....and that's one of the top (3) biggest problems.
Culture has transcended religion--which is problematic-- (specifically Christianity) although a patriarchal mind-set dominates most religions.
Culture has pervaded the true biblical definition..
true Patriarch does not denigrate women.

The bible is clear concerning the relationship between a husband and a wife, men and women in general.
The problem is sin.
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by budaatum: 5:22pm On Feb 01, 2019
luvmijeje:
You who tells them that at end of all their achievements, they will still end up in the kitchen. You who tells them, that as soon they are married, they cease to exist. Their husband's dreams becomes their dream. To have a successful marriage, they must be submissive, they must be quiet, they must be silent. That the success and the failure of a marriage lies with the woman. You who see the cheating by a man as normal and the cheating by women as a crime. You who tells us that a woman should relies on the man for his survival but failed to realize in doing that, one loses her voice and loses her worth.

You who blamed us for being rape. You who tells us that we are second class citizen because Eve committed a sin. You who told us that Adam came first into this world so we must all be subjected to a man. You who segregate the women from important position because you think they are not good enough. You who tells them that no woman should be a leader over men. You. You. You.
Men are pigs! Not all of them mind, but men are pigs!
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by Nobody: 6:39pm On Feb 01, 2019
budaatum:
Men are pigs! Not all of them mind, but men are pigs!
Both men and women are pigs (sinners) before God.
Romans 3:23
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by Nobody: 10:33pm On Feb 01, 2019
[quote author=solite3 post=75327250[

true Patriarch does not denigrate women.

The bible is clear concerning the relationship between a husband and a wife, men and women in general.
The problem is sin.[/quote]You are right sir with the above bolded. I agree...
I was only saying that the husband/wife or male/female relationships that she described are flawed, grossly abusive and misinterpretations of how male/female interactions were intended to be.
Apparently the scenario she painted, is a problem in Nigeria (and other places as well).
True heart conversion is what's needed...
Christ is the example.
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by Nobody: 9:01pm On Feb 02, 2019
Mobilia, are you a Nigerian?
Whatever your answer may be, I owe you a drink.

Quite refreshing to come across a Female Christian who knows the truth. Keep it up and God bless.
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by Nobody:
bLacKGoLd3:
Mo/bilia, are you a Nigerian?
Whatever your answer may be, I owe you a drink.

Quite refreshing to come across a Female Christian who knows the truth. Keep it up and God bless.
Fifty percent Nigerian.
Sir, seriously I'm humbled and thank you
for your kind words.
Don't know it all....barely scratched the surface
of learning about the Lord through His Word.
Just trying to express my love for the Lord..and
hope that others would taste and see that He is good.
Re: How Should Christians View Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?" by Nobody: 7:35pm On Feb 08, 2019
Mobilia:
You are right sir with the above bolded. I agree...
I was only saying that the husband/wife or male/female relationships that she described are flawed, grossly abusive and misinterpretations of how male/female interactions were intended to be.
Apparently the scenario she painted, is a problem in Nigeria (and other places as well).
True heart conversion is what's needed...
Christ is the example.
God bless you, the problem is not God's arrangement but man's corruption.
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