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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by Dantedasz(m): 1:44pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
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Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by OnPointMan(m): 1:46pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
sonmvayina:What about the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross. 1 Like |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by MuttleyLaff: 1:54pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
LordReed:Jephthah never barbecued his daughter. Did not, in the first place nurse any plan to barbecue a human being even. Dantedasz:Logically there is no way Jephthah would have considered nursing barbecuing a human being. It defies any logic an Israelite would stand for. Besides that, it is crystal clear in Judges 11:31b what Jephthah planned to barbecue. Only the blind, deceiver and ignorant would not acknowledge or know this |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by Dantedasz(m): 2:04pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: Keep on doing this. You are doing a good job of the tail wagging the dog. |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by JujuSugar(f): 2:16pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Ok MuttleyLaff:Lame MuttleyLaff:Sir Muttley, @bolded please specify where in the bible Jephthah indicated this clarification MuttleyLaff:Seriously. It doesn't matter MuttleyLaff:The pronoun used is "it". Your point? MuttleyLaff:No. Its because you're desperately trying to distort the verses as much as you possibly can to deny the obvious moral of the story: God is fundamentally evil and a narcisstic sociopath who accepts the sacrifice of children without second thoughts. He has no excuse here because he knew exactly who would come out and meet Jephthah on his way back. Feel free to keep chasing your shadow on this issue. |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by JujuSugar(f): 2:19pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
LordReed:I swear. These christians have an annoying habit of being dodgy as fvck. 1 Like |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by MuttleyLaff: 2:19pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
Dantedasz:I thoroughly enjoyed nonstamp' video again, very satirically entertaining again. Do you know what your problem is. You are so blinkered by the trees, so can't because of them see the woods, that is why you are so fixated on the impression that Jephthah barbecued his daughter and other Abraham Isaac God misgivings you have |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by CodeTemplar: 2:28pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
JujuSugar:God may know but Jephthah knew it was a possibility before vowing. It isn't about God here but Jephthah. A man who pretends to be a cab driver or tricycle operator to kidnap his victims shouldn't turn around and blame God if caught because God knew he was going to be caught. He knew he could be caught. |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by JujuSugar(f): 2:32pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
CodeTemplar:Don't you see the problem here? How can a loving God know that someone would commit a crime, but let him go ahead even when the said crime will endanger both him and his victims? |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by MuttleyLaff: 2:34pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
JujuSugar:Christians can respond to that, as I am not holding brief JujuSugar:It's hilarious you saying God is responsible for your sins JujuSugar:Cripple JujuSugar:People don't want to believe the truth because it will shatter their illusions JujuSugar:It does as a crucial specimen of evidence matter JujuSugar:Don't hit a man, talkess a madam, when down. The pronoun you've just confirmed is self evidence. I am sure you took English classes in primary and secondary schools JujuSugar:Where did you get the warped idea God accepts sacrifice of children? Jephthah clearly stated in Judges 11:31a that if its human or animal that comes out to meet, such will be dedicated to God's purpose, then went on in Judges 11:31b to qualify his earlier pronounced vow, that, if it happens to be an animal, then it animal will be given up as a burnt offering to God |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by CodeTemplar: 2:44pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
JujuSugar:If you are asking God to take away our will do act creatively and destructively entirely, then you are asking God to turn the human race into a computer simulation. In Eden, Adam ate the tree of knowledge of good and bad. That tells us there was a preceding factor in the case of Jephthah. Stop blaming God for all your woes and start looking more at yourself. |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by Dantedasz(m): 2:47pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Okay. |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by MuttleyLaff: 2:48pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
JujuSugar:This your scenario is so amateurish and full of naivety because of not understanding and knowing that God's integrity and His love is unquestionable. His character has no stain, blot or blemish. No one can scandalise God. |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by CodeTemplar: 3:02pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
JujuSugar:The fact that God knows the future and still leaves room for good and bad things to happen isn't a fault of God. I have will power and can go out to slap any innocent bystander. Will I now sit and say God is wicked or bad for making it possible for the act to go ahead ? That won't make sense because I had enough will power and a conscience to guide me to decide against slapping an innocent man. |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by JujuSugar(f): 3:10pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:And its baffling how ignorant you are of the relationship between predestination and free will MuttleyLaff:[img]https://media1./images/9d61a15470281122f253aedb9fa83320/tenor.gif[/img] MuttleyLaff:I know right? Its crazy MuttleyLaff:Advertise it all you want. It's irrelevant MuttleyLaff:It's not. If it is then why didn't God caution Jephthah from sacrificing his daughter if the pronoun is as vital as you're making it to be? MuttleyLaff:I did. I'm equally sure you have the ability to read? MuttleyLaff:Twisting the scriptures to suit your argument - Christian logic #101 Sir Muttley, @bolded please specify exactly where in the bible Jephthah indicated this exemption... CodeTemplar:The idea of an omniscient, omniscient being contradicts the idea of free will. If God knows perfectly all future events, then all future events have already happened, therefore existence would ultimately be pointless and unimaginably drab. God is the author of the book and we're just characters in it. Every choice you make has already been written. He knows the end from the beginning. Denying this would be denying God's omni qualities. MuttleyLaff:What's so hard for you to understand about the concepts of free will and predetermination,Mr. MuttleyLaff? You still haven't justified God's role in the Jephthah issue, so till then, kindly buzz off. |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by budaatum: 3:24pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Really, muttley? Is that how you are tested? You can't just test with something simple like, what is the sum of one plus two? No wonder your cookies crumble! MuttleyLaff:You know very well I get that way when you refuse to use your brain and resort to copious verbiage that anyone with an ounce of sense would cringe at and if I didn't know you had a brain in that head of your's or used it, I wouldn't get emotional! Intentional ignorance gets me that way, muttley. I can't be unemotional when I see otherwise intelligent individuals sprouting what they cannot possibly believe but ask others to. The words "stones instead of bread" spring to my mind. |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by CodeTemplar: 3:28pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
JujuSugar:If God doesn't give men the chance to act out their hearts, man will claim they are not capable of doing such since it never happened. It is like a poor man hoping to hammer or hit big so he can date one of the 'big' girls in town. if he gets the money he plans to date the girl and will, God already knows but is hesitant in blessing that man financially. The man goes to God and accuses God of starving him before men and finally God tests him by giving him his wish of money and boom! ... He goes to sin by dating that girl. Finally he has followed his heart and somebody somewhere hurt by the act, may a wife to the man, starts saying God is wicked or bad for allowing his husband to cheat. Is God really wicked? Never. His anger is there, agreed but God isn't a bully. The man had his will power all along. Remember Adam named all the animals in the garden and whatever name he gave them God agreed to it. Man has a free will and God won't stifle it just to force us into heaven, instead he has prepared his word to feed our spirit and help strengthen our mind, soul, and spirit. |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by budaatum: 3:28pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:How is it an invalid comparison? Even today, the Jews justify their stealing of the land the Palestinians were on with what their god supposedly told them, so why would you not accept when Jihadists blow you up because their god told them to? |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by JujuSugar(f): 3:34pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
CodeTemplar:You're limiting God's omnipotence and omniscience here. These two can't coexist with free will. I'm open to correction if you think they aren't mutually exclusive concepts |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by budaatum: 3:36pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Isn't that also what boko haram and alqaeda say when they blow people up? |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by budaatum: 3:37pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
CreepyBlackpool:Funny thing is, he's guilty of them all! |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by MuttleyLaff: 3:40pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
JujuSugar:You are, what you are. Trust me, if I were God and knowing what and all I know about you, your bitchiness and all, I'll probably would not let you see the light of existence, but then God is more forgiving than I am, God is in more control of affair of things more than I am, so your tiny lucky arse sees the light of day on earth and you are still here taking in oxygen JujuSugar:Glad we sing from the same hymnn book there JujuSugar:It is the show-stopper, the spanner thrown in the wheel of fantasy that Jephthah barbecued his daughter JujuSugar:How many times do you want me to refute this. Watch my mouth and read my lips, it did not happen. Jephthah, even never nursed an idea to barbecue a human being. That is fake news JujuSugar:Good, then go back to read what I dropped about pronouns in one of my earliest posts on this thread JujuSugar:I numerous times already have, but because you do selective reading, you only read what you want to see and believe JujuSugar:So just because the author knows everything about the character, the book should not be written or acted in a play, huh? JujuSugar:Don't you dare use that tone with me madam. Keep it in check |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by CodeTemplar: 3:41pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
JujuSugar:Stop being redundant bros. Gods omnipotence and omniscient nature doesn't contradict free will. |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by MuttleyLaff: 3:44pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
budaatum:Where is Boko and Queda in the Bible, mentioned and authorised by God to carry out commands for Him? budaatum:I have answered this with the above budaatum:He can't even be original, those lines are mine he nicked |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by budaatum: 3:45pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Seriously, Muttley? Do you seriously not know the Crusaders were "God's Warriors", and they were fighting "God's War" ? Or are you claiming God didn't send them? |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by MuttleyLaff: 3:49pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
budaatum:Where in the Bible did God send them budaatum. We see God telling Abraham to go kill, we see God in the Bible telling the Israelites to kill the Canaanites etcetera. When and where in the Bible are the Crusaders mentioned and given authorisation by God to go on warrior paths budaatum? |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by budaatum: 3:51pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:You're so boko haramish and alqaedik, muttley! |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by budaatum: 3:53pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:We don't see God telling Abraham anything, muttley, we simply read it and some of you think some god truly spoke to some Abraham, and unfortunately jump from that to god talking to them too! |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by MuttleyLaff: 4:04pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
budaatum:Swap see with read then and stop acting like you don't know or understand what I mean by that comment |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by JujuSugar(f): 4:05pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Lol, based on the jargon you just wrote I can tell you're getting emotional . Its not my fault you don't understand the concepts of predestination. You better pour some water in that pot before it gets damaged. MuttleyLaff:Yeah. But only one of us understands the lyrics MuttleyLaff:It's not relevant, MuttleyLaff. Just give up. You're trying to fit a camel through the eye of a needle MuttleyLaff:So why did he sacrifice his daughter then? MuttleyLaff:The emphasis you're laying on this pronoun stuff is... quite sad and desperate to be honest. If really the pronoun mattered, Jephthah wouldn't have even bother himself when his daughter came out. MuttleyLaff:LMAO. I've caught you, Mr. Muttley Please point to the part of Judges chapter 11 where Jephthah made an exception for sacrifice IF it was an animal that came out. Don't dodge this please. I'm waiting.... MuttleyLaff:Even in a play, the actors have to follow the script; and the end of the script has already been planned before hand by the scriptwriters and directors. Keep chasing your shadow, sir. You're like a rat struggling to wriggle out of a trap at this point. MuttleyLaff:I feel your pain . But your misery and anxiety can only be quelled if you stop trying to distort the issue here. CodeTemplar: I've demonstrated my claim. You demonstrate yours. |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by budaatum: 4:20pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Doesn't matter how you spin it muttley, boko haram and alqaeda too can write. You'd only argue god didn't write it just as I'd argue no god wrote your bible! P.s. Are you not getting emotional!? |
Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by CodeTemplar: 4:30pm On Feb 01, 2019 |
JujuSugar:I missed it please sample it again. I need to know your claim. |
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