Earthquake1:


He is average, yes

But he doesn't get into the box, he doesn't shoot, he doesn't even cross only a player low on confidence would do that

Has he ever in his career possessed these qualities? Except maybe crossing. Does that mean he has been low on confidence all his career? Maybe he should consider the Wijnaldum option, maybe just maybe he will turn into at least a decent holding midfielder (although his games in that position most especially the game against Libya doesn't give me much confidence).

Let me ask you a very very honest question, do you think Iwobi can make the first team of Real Madrid, Barca, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, PSG, Atletico, Juve, Napoli in fact any decent team in the world? Or will he even manage to be the first player off the bench for these clubs?

Dannyxy:
why wouldn't he be low on confidence, when he knows he is scape for a very inconsistent team, you think he doesn't know the fans are just waiting for him to have a bad game, so they can blame him for all their woes...

And Nigerians fans are the worst fans, plastic fans, so toxic towards their own...

Nigerian fans are the ones defending him tbh go to facebook and see the war going on there

andrew444:


Thank you my broda

To be sincere they are so many plastic fan here

By 'plastic' you mean sincere and realistic? We have passed the stage of 'Iheanacho had a decent game'

Mickael2:


Did I say the whole Arsenal team was not piss poor? There really was nothing wrong with Arsenal's tactics though, they kept City at bay sometimes even better than Liverpool and Man U did. It is the personnel. The defence is another problem no doubt but Arsenal's midfield is a decent midfield, the problem is that their creative outlet is Iwobi. Iwobi is an average player at best, and if a team relies on an average player as their creative outlet then the team is a midtable team at best. Iwobi had his best game of the season against Liverpool what did that fetch Arsenal? 1 goal and a serious demolition, back then when Sanchez still was in the team of he had a good game you could back Arsenal to win, and worse the strikers ahead of him were Giroud and who again? If Sanchez was still at Arsenal when Auba and Lacazzete came in then he would have led them to a second place finish at least, Iwobi is just not good enough to do that. He would be a good addition to the West Ham team, but at Arsenal he really should not be a starter if they have title-wining intentions. Finito

now let's drag back a little... I don't know about you, but today with what I watched, iwobi wasn't the creative outlet, he played wing back(first mistake by the coach) .. Go back and watch that game, arsenal wanted to be defensive and compact, with their terrible defenders(second mistake)..

Now iwobi was playing a defensive role in this game, a very bad choice by the coach, and he was practically struggling, and then he made that mistake, his psychology and morale was down, he was trying to make an impact, but as the game continued, he just became confused... He was no longer confident on the ball, because now he realized, loosing the ball, trying to do something with it, could make them concede more goals, been that he was playing a defensive role.. Hence the terrible display, he was not lackluster, and it was not that he didn't try, it was just a bad day for him..

Go back and watch that game, with an analytical mindset, I know you can annually analyze a match, so I am disappointed, you are talking like most beer parlour fans we have in Nigeria ...

What a pathetic display from Arsenal
.. City just used them for training...


As for Iwobi, anybody that doesn't agree that he is bang average is just being sentimental...
Iwobi has never hit double figure in goals and assists in all competition for arsenal in a single season.. And his lack of consistency is a major problem...

SuperIgbo:
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You're a moronic stark illiterate.

Your dumbass Nigerian school didn't teach you how to punctuate correctly and, you think I give a ratass if you claim to be Igbo?

Your dumbass also doesn't know that Fulani cowjockeys bully everybody in that cesspit? They bully y'all also. Yorubas are forever grateful to the Europeans for colonization hence, they never fought a war to resist colonization.

Heck, Dahomey women warriors even sacked your dumbass people from their villages and castrated their cowardly men.

Yorubas with their Amala bowls are going to jail every second in the US and the UK for internet scams. They consitutute a volume of African immigrants doing time in the US. So what you on about? And, suck a dickk - Igbos are arrogantly cocky, they rather die a like man than live like a coward.

@@ the other stark illiterates, y'all are scared much to quote me? Die off with your phantom unity, loool.

"Fulani/hausa bully everybody"...."We igbos would rather die like a man and live like a coward"....
You are a slowpoke. We need another Operation python on your dumb ass...you in particular should be made to drink gutter water filled up with feces and urine.
We dare you IPOB comedians to get your Biafra by force since una dey form superman...we all know the best you'll do is call Yoruba cowards and go crying to Niger/Delta folks to help.
IPOB peeps are clowns.
IPOB peeps are the most disgraceful set of igbos
IPOB peeps are the ones I see their asses whooped in Hilbrow for being a disgrace
IPOB peeps are the ones I see play houseboy to the Yakuza in Japan
IPOB folks are the ones that are getting 100 year prison sentences for being dumb yahoo boys
IPOB do not represent Igbos. You do not speak for all Igbo folks.
Now run before Buhari orders another Operation Python on your asses.. that's the only good thing he's done in 4 years.
Last time I'm going to reply your nonsense. You're not welcomed here. Take your delusions of grandeur and go Bleep yourself in the politics sections. Keep crying about hausa/fulani while we talk football on here. Clown.

andrew444:


Thank you my broda

To be sincere they are so many plastic fan here

my brother, they way we attack and ridicule our players as soon as they have a bad, is actually what baffles me...

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Dannyxy:
now let's drag back a little... I don't know about you, but today with what I watched, iwobi wasn't the creative outlet, he played wing back(first mistake by the coach) .. Go back and watch that game, arsenal wanted to be defensive and compact, with their terrible defenders(second mistake)..

Now iwobi was playing a defensive role in this game, a very bad choice by the coach, and he was practically struggling, and then he made that mistake, his psychology and morale was down, he was trying to make an impact, but as the game continued, he just became confused... He was no longer confident on the ball, because now he realized, loosing the ball, trying to do something with it, could make them concede more goals, been that he was playing a defensive role.. Hence the terrible display, he was not lackluster, and it was not that he didn't try, it was just a bad day for him..

Go back and watch that game, with an analytical mindset, I know you can annually analyze a match, so I am disappointed, you are talking like most beer parlour fans we have in Nigeria ...

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This is self delusion

Mind you I was watching as a SE enthusiast not as a Man City or Arsenal fan

Iwobi was awful today

andrew444:


Suarez will always be an upgrade to iwobi despite the fact that both of them are average players

Iwobi is a better ball carrier imo while Suarez is more technically gifted.
Arsenal just wasted their time in this transfer window. At the end of the day - Iwobi is still the only one that can drive into the opposition's box.

Dannyxy:
now let's drag back a little... I don't know about you, but today with what I watched, iwobi wasn't the creative outlet, he played wing back(first mistake by the coach) .. Go back and watch that game, arsenal wanted to be defensive and compact, with their terrible defenders(second mistake)..

Now iwobi was playing a defensive role in this game, a very bad choice by the coach, and he was practically struggling, and then he made that mistake, his psychology and morale was down, he was trying to make an impact, but as the game continued, he just became confused... He was no longer confident on the ball, because now he realized, loosing the ball, trying to do something with it, could make them concede more goals, been that he was playing a defensive role.. Hence the terrible display, he was not lackluster, and it was not that he didn't try, it was just a bad day for him..

Go back and watch that game, with an analytical mindset, I know you can annually analyze a match, so I am disappointed, you are talking like most beer parlour fans we have in Nigeria ...

Litchenstier played wing back not Iwobi... Monreal ,Mustafi and Koscienly played CB

Litch .was even worse than Iwobi. I dunno why Emery moved Iwobi to the right ...

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Damn! One bad game and Iwobi is average, I tire for some people o. This is the same iwobi many were praising for his sublime pass some weeks ago.
Now,am an arsenal fan and I will answer some people here.
Emery usually use 3 DM ,the FBs will provide width for the team while the 3 DM will cover for them. Of the 3 forwards,Iwobi will drop to midfield and supply the ball to the overlapping FBs,that was why Kolasinac and bellerin have being impressive so far. So in this scenario, how do you expect Iwobi to cross or shoot?
Today's match was a tactical error from Emery,Lichtensteiner's inclusion in the starting lineup was just awful because it limits Iwobi 's prowess.
I just pity the Iwobi,he doesn't deserve all the basgings he has been receiving.

edi287:

Iwobi is a better ball carrier imo while Suarez is more technically gifted.
Arsenal just wasted their time in this transfer window. At the end of the day - Iwobi is still the only one that can drive into the opposition's box.

Emery might play both of them together and drop one of Auba and Laca

mostob:
Damn! One bad game and Iwobi is average, I tire for some people o. This is the same iwobi many were praising for his sublime pass some weeks ago.
Now,am an arsenal fan and I will answer some people here.
Emery usually use 3 DM ,the FBs will provide width for the team while the 3 DM will cover for them. Of the 3 forwards,Iwobi will drop to midfield and supply the ball to the overlapping FBs,that was why Kolasinac and bellerin have being impressive so far. So in this scenario, how do you expect Iwobi to cross or shoot?
Today's match was a tactical error from Emery,Lichtensteiner's inclusion in the starting lineup was just awful because it limits Iwobi 's prowess.
I just pity the Iwobi,he doesn't deserve all the basgings he has been receiving.

As long as Emery keep making those "tactical errors", Iwobi will remain the main scapegoat of the team...That's the truth.

Earthquake1:
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This is self delusion

Mind you I was watching as a SE enthusiast not as a Man City or Arsenal fan

Iwobi was awful today

the whole arsenal team was awful..

But, since you said you were watching as a s.e fan, oya now, so that means you were watching only iwobi's Performance, so I agree he played badly, no doubt...

mostob:
Emery might play both of them together and drop one of Auba and Laca

Yep and that would be a great idea if Iwobi could only finish and run in behind.
Auba has poor hold up play and Laca isn't as quick as Aubamayeng.
The solution is to sell one this summer...playing Auba on the left isn't a good idea.

mostob:
Damn! One bad game and Iwobi is average, I tire for some people o. This is the same iwobi many were praising for his sublime pass some weeks ago.
Now,am an arsenal fan and I will answer some people here.
Emery usually use 3 DM ,the FBs will provide width for the team while the 3 DM will cover for them. Of the 3 forwards,Iwobi will drop to midfield and supply the ball to the overlapping FBs,that was why Kolasinac and bellerin have being impressive so far. So in this scenario, how do you expect Iwobi to cross or shoot?
Today's match was a tactical error from Emery,Lichtensteiner's inclusion in the starting lineup was just awful because it limits Iwobi 's prowess.
I just pity the Iwobi,he doesn't deserve all the basgings he has been receiving.

Iwobi doesn't even help himself, he doesn't pass on time, he holds the ball as long as possible, tries a few dribbles and passes back or sideways

As a fan that's got to hurt

elyte89:


Iwobi just caused a goal...indecision killed him again dere

Twitter guys want him sold for that error. lol. They want Emery to sell the only dribbler the team has?

see sometimes, i do compare arsenal with SE. They lack cojones.

But i think the SE have swap destiny with Arsenal. Arsenal needs a new owner. Stan and Josh were seen smiling in the us stadium for the superbowl. but when the pair are in emirates, its all frown, frown frown. And they dont wana spend the cash? Limp middle.

edi287:

Iwobi is a better ball carrier imo while Suarez is more technically gifted.
Arsenal just wasted their time in this transfer window. At the end of the day - Iwobi is still the only one that can drive into the opposition's box.

Then you really haven't watched Suarez well enough. Dude can dribble, like he seriously can dribble, he has an end product more than Iwobi and he is more creative, considerably more creative. I think Iwobi is only better at short passes because Suarez would always want to penetrate naturally.

However I would say a 4-4-2 would suit Arsenal a lot more. Have a midfield 4 of pure workhorses, say Guendozi, Torreira and some other person that actually works hard, then plug in Ozil behind the strikers, that way his defensive deficiencies will be totally and completely masked while his creativity will be something else. With Auba and Lacazzete ahead of Ozil I see nothing but goals and more goals. Suarez can fit the Ozil role perfectly too(maybe eceb slightly better because he can dribble more than Ozil, though less creative obviously). Bellerin is a Barca product, he is naturally a wingback even when playing as FB then play with one wingback and another stagnant fullback more like what Barca used in 2008 when Abidal was the stagnant full back, when Bellerin pushes forward let Guendozi drop in as the third CB then one of the CBs, obviously the quicker and more astute CB(in 1-v-1 situations should be the roaming CB.
I do not buy into this assumption that Arsenal does not have good enough players, a team with Ozil, Auba and Lacazzete should be guaranteed 2-5 goals every weekend.

Earthquake1:


Iwobi doesn't even help himself, he doesn't pass on time, he holds the ball as long as possible, tries a few dribbles and passes back or sideways

As a fan that's got to hurt

because there was no option. Bro,Iwobi plays poorly today,I agree but it was down to poor partnership. Even Kolasinac was poor to. Iwobi is young and will only develop. We should cut him some slacks jare.

I have recently come to conclusion that ndidi is currently the best super Eagles player worldwide.

Earthquake1:


Iwobi doesn't even help himself, he doesn't pass on time, he holds the ball as long as possible, tries a few dribbles and passes back or sideways

As a fan that's got to hurt

You are seeing the light. Absolutely no creativity, without consulting whoscored I know Iwobi has less than 0.2 key passes per 90mins this season. For the creative outlet of a team that is poor. Creativity is the only reason why he is in the team because he does not score, so why is he failing at it?

Mickael2:
Icon4s and Tbaba plus all them Arsenal fans.....COYG!!!!! This match is going to end 3-4 with a hattrick from Leno.

Like I have said before, a team where Iwobi is the first choice winger is at best a top 8 team. Let us see what Suarez will bring though, after watching him for over five years now at Villarreal, Barca and Sevilla I actually see him as an upgrade on Iwobi, no offence really. Then why does the coach keep Ozil entirely out of the team? There is no tactics in this world that a coach could adopt that would potentially keep Ozil out of the first XI or out of the team as a whole. Unaichukwu Emery isn't an upgrade after all or should I blame the Arsenal transfer policy?

Lol


i guess the urgency is why he is this important. Arsenal gat some shitty players, and im saying this as an arsenal fan. Man you cant bench the only dribbler you get in the team. arsenal needs dribblers. Besides that midfield is very very crippled.

andrew444:


Suarez will always be an upgrade to iwobi despite the fact that both of them are average players

oga no talk this one here o. When Suarez siddon adapt to epl tempo you can start to say what he offers on the "epl table" is more than what iwobi offers. Thats my take on this o.


Epl is diff even if this guy was at man city years back, this was his official debut.

Dannyxy:
now let's drag back a little... I don't know about you, but today with what I watched, iwobi wasn't the creative outlet, he played wing back(first mistake by the coach) .. Go back and watch that game, arsenal wanted to be defensive and compact, with their terrible defenders(second mistake)..

Now iwobi was playing a defensive role in this game, a very bad choice by the coach, and he was practically struggling, and then he made that mistake, his psychology and morale was down, he was trying to make an impact, but as the game continued, he just became confused... He was no longer confident on the ball, because now he realized, loosing the ball, trying to do something with it, could make them concede more goals, been that he was playing a defensive role.. Hence the terrible display, he was not lackluster, and it was not that he didn't try, it was just a bad day for him..

Go back and watch that game, with an analytical mindset, I know you can annually analyze a match, so I am disappointed, you are talking like most beer parlour fans we have in Nigeria ...

Since they have already explained to you that Iwobi was not the wingback today I believe that shows that either you didn't watch the match, or you did so with tinted glasses. Iwobi was more of a side midfielder today, not a winger though.

Now that we have that out of the way let me say again that Iwobi was supposed to be the creative outlet in this game, he touched the ball enough times to at least create one chance but he didn't.

By the way the comment I made was a general comment, not because of this game at all.

daveP:
Lol


i guess the urgency is why he is this important. Arsenal gat some shitty players, and im saying this as an arsenal fan. Man you cant bench the only dribbler you get in the team. arsenal needs dribblers. Besides that midfield is very very crippled.

My point was never even bench him today or tomorrow, I already said long ago that Arsenal needs to buy actual wingers, however Suarez is a decent winger we will see what he can offer.

Arsenal's midfield isn't exactly crippled. Torreria is a guy that will run for 120 minutes and still run home from the stadium, Guendozi is a guy that can keep things ticking, his short passes are good and he recycles possession perfectly well. These two things are vital in any midfield. The problem with Arsenal is down to creativity and their defence.

Mickael2:


Has he ever in his career possessed these qualities? Except maybe crossing. Does that mean he has been low on confidence all his career? Maybe he should consider the Wijnaldum option, maybe just maybe he will turn into at least a decent holding midfielder (although his games in that position most especially the game against Libya doesn't give me much confidence).

Let me ask you a very very honest question, do you think Iwobi can make the first team of Real Madrid, Barca, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, PSG, Atletico, Juve, Napoli in fact any decent team in the world? Or will he even manage to be the first player off the bench for these clubs?

Oga Mike, easy with the big teams stuff now!! haba. u wan wash Iwobi dis bad? easy o.

arsenal reach these teams for quality? so why force the question of if he will enter their teams. shuu.

Mickael2:


Then you really haven't watched Suarez well enough. Dude can dribble, like he seriously can dribble, he has an end product more than Iwobi and he is more creative, considerably more creative. I think Iwobi is only better at short passes because Suarez would always want to penetrate naturally.

However I would say a 4-4-2 would suit Arsenal a lot more. Have a midfield 4 of pure workhorses, say Guendozi, Torreira and some other person that actually works hard, then plug in Ozil behind the strikers, that way his defensive deficiencies will be totally and completely masked while his creativity will be something else. With Auba and Lacazzete ahead of Ozil I see nothing but goals and more goals. Suarez can fit the Ozil role perfectly too(maybe eceb slightly better because he can dribble more than Ozil, though less creative obviously). Bellerin is a Barca product, he is naturally a wingback even when playing as FB then play with one wingback and another stagnant fullback more like what Barca used in 2008 when Abidal was the stagnant full back, when Bellerin pushes forward let Guendozi drop in as the third CB then one of the CBs, obviously the quicker and more astute CB(in 1-v-1 situations should be the roaming CB.
I do not buy into this assumption that Arsenal does not have good enough players, a team with Ozil, Auba and Lacazzete should be guaranteed 2-5 goals every weekend.

Arsenal's problem is the defence and Emery's stubborn nature. If we're being honest - dude has treated Ramsey and Ozil like shit and for someone that's meant to be this super flexible tactician - he has been a disgrace.
As for Suarez - I've always viewed him like an Iniesta type of player. Good close control, etc but he doesn't seem like he can carry the ball over a long distance.
I can't wait for Emery's contract to expire at the end of next season so he can take his nonsense and leave.

Earthquake1:


Nigerian fans are the ones defending him tbh go to facebook and see the war going on there

Well on twitter, they are roasting iwobi and emery together. why play him in a def setup all cos he is the only forward that tracks back to def compared to laca and auba?

Mickael2:


Since they have already explained to you that Iwobi was not the wingback today I believe that shows that either you didn't watch the match, or you did so with tinted glasses. Iwobi was more of a side midfielder today, not a winger though.

Now that we have that out of the way let me say again that Iwobi was supposed to be the creative outlet in this game, he touched the ball enough times to at least create one chance but he didn't.

By the way the comment I made was a general comment, not because of this game at all.

how exactly do you want Iwobi to create something today? Do you even watch the match? There was a moment Matteo drives forward but there was no player to pass to and he loses possession. Iwobi 's main job was to help Lichtsteiner out. The few times arsenal have ball,how many times did they pass to Him?

I will stop following this thread and Nigerian football and players. I would only throw support during the AFCON for the sake patriotism.

Iwobi = Average & Inconsistent

Ndidi = Average, offers nothing going forward except a shot in 2 years.

Balogun = Benchdinho

Kalu = Average

Ighalo = Chinese division 2

Star boy Chukwueze = Recently joined the Benchdinho


We have no single 'excellent' player. A damn shame if you ask me for a footballing nation with a population of over 150million.

We have a coach who is seriously overachieving with this team (I can't believe they almost knocked out Argentina last year )

Any ways Rohr seems to know how to knock out African opponents so I expect a very good result this AFCON. But until then......



Time to focus my time and energy on something more productive.



On this note.....

Ladies and Gents......

I hereby announce.........

That the much anticipated vision WC2022.......

(World cup on an African soil, Nigeria ).......


Is hereby suspended indefinitely!


One love!