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Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by DukeNija(m): 12:32pm On Feb 06, 2019
I currently drive a Nissan Altima 2009, before that I owned a Hyundai and Toyota. I’ve driven Honda’s and honestly Nissan is the best.
The car just clocked 187K but still drives like a dream, smooth and the acceleration is next to none. The engine is the best of any Japanese car I’ve ever owned or driven, it’s super quiet and smooth. You could be standing beside it and be unaware it’s ON, heck you could even be inside and think it’s OFF. It’s that smooth. I service the car at regular intervals with M1 0W40(best oil in the market). And this brings my question, ive read so many bad reviews and it makes me wonder, why do people think Nissan cars are bad? We have very terrible maintenance culture in Nigeria and we rely solely on Toyota’s and think they are the best. Toyota is boring and I could practically sleep while driving it. I barely visit the mechanic in fact I can’t even remember the last time I was there(Dec 2018 to change CVT fluid). I love Nissan.
I’m not here to promote Nissan but the reviews and mindset toward this lovely car manufacturer is unreliable and unfortunate even here on Nairaland. In fact we need a Nissan thread for owners and prospective owners. cheesy

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by TPound(m): 2:44pm On Feb 06, 2019
The word Nissan is more like garlic sprinkled in Gazzuzz's vampire ears

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by Nobody: 6:46pm On Feb 07, 2019
I think people just like following the crowd and drive what everyone else is driving. I personally like Nissan too.

I just started driving recently though. So far, I've driven a Nissan and a C-class Benz. Benz is OK but I personally love the Nissan better. It's a simple, smooth car and moves very easily.

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by oblo(m): 7:57pm On Feb 07, 2019
I can say this with pride. Having driven a 1998 Nissan Primera, 2001 almera, and 2005 altima... We Nissan owners are just too comfy enjoying our rides. My current 2005 Nissan murano aka the workhorse has never given me any headache. Still on same gear and engine. Still travels Enugu to Lagos. Still starts at a go, never dropped me on the road, and I began to wonder how unrelated I hear the stories online. If you ask me I would buy another murano at the drop of a hat! Infact I would buy a Nissan any day anytime. Las Las na our maintenance culture be the ish. Take care of your ride and it would do same.

I have seen someone pour in manual gear oil into his engine because he was advised to do so as engine was smoking.. But Not gear oil ke.

Well let me go back to my hood before awon oni Toyota show face dey make noise. grin

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by picaso313(m): 10:48pm On Apr 10, 2019
i have not driven a nissian car but i saw this 2010 maxima with cvt transmission.. does any 1 have gud advice abt the car... its fuel consumption n reliability along side wit its parts availability

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by CocoaOla: 9:41am On Apr 11, 2019
You can't compare Honda to Nissan
99s Old Nissan are good before the company was acquired by one France auto company that is not known to manufacture reliable cars.

You can blame Renault for most Nissans quality Controls issues in recent years. Weak transmission is one of the main issues that is hurting Nissan reputation and some minor timing chains tensioners.
Nissan were better in thé olden days when they were Datsuns back then

Honda quality Used to be neck to neck with Toyota in 90s and 2000s but in recent years the natural disasters in Japan make them slip a little but Honda are still better made than Nissan. Toyota and Honda are still the overall leaders reliability Honda need to seat up in quality control to maintain their reputation with Toyotas now

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by Princepitbull(m): 1:01am On May 20, 2019
Used to drive an accord 2005 and recently joined the Nissan team. Just bought Altima 2009 2.5SL. Thanks for the oil expo.... Will be doing some servicing next week before I place her on the road fully.

Her picture attached


DukeNija:
I currently drive a Nissan Altima 2009, before that I owned a Hyundai and Toyota. I’ve driven Honda’s and honestly Nissan is the best.
The car just clocked 187K but still drives like a dream, smooth and the acceleration is next to none. The engine is the best of any Japanese car I’ve ever owned or driven, it’s super quiet and smooth. You could be standing beside it and be unaware it’s ON, heck you could even be inside and think it’s OFF. It’s that smooth. I service the car at regular intervals with M1 0W40(best oil in the market). And this brings my question, ive read so many bad reviews and it makes me wonder, why do people think Nissan cars are bad? We have very terrible maintenance culture in Nigeria and we rely solely on Toyota’s and think they are the best. Toyota is boring and I could practically sleep while driving it. I barely visit the mechanic in fact I can’t even remember the last time I was there(Dec 2018 to change CVT fluid). I love Nissan.
I’m not here to promote Nissan but the reviews and mindset toward this lovely car manufacturer is unreliable and unfortunate even here on Nairaland. In fact we need a Nissan thread for owners and prospective owners. cheesy

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by king406(m): 2:01am On May 20, 2019
Blame this demon

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by dru23(m): 7:36am On May 20, 2019
Princepitbull:
Used to drive an accord 2005 and recently joined the Nissan team. Just bought Altima 2009 2.5SL. Thanks for the oil expo.... Will be doing some servicing next week before I place her on the road fully.

Her picture attached



That is a maxima ,good cars and very fast
Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by dru23(m): 7:38am On May 20, 2019
DukeNija:
I currently drive a Nissan Altima 2009, before that I owned a Hyundai and Toyota. I’ve driven Honda’s and honestly Nissan is the best.
The car just clocked 187K but still drives like a dream, smooth and the acceleration is next to none. The engine is the best of any Japanese car I’ve ever owned or driven, it’s super quiet and smooth. You could be standing beside it and be unaware it’s ON, heck you could even be inside and think it’s OFF. It’s that smooth. I service the car at regular intervals with M1 0W40(best oil in the market). And this brings my question, ive read so many bad reviews and it makes me wonder, why do people think Nissan cars are bad? We have very terrible maintenance culture in Nigeria and we rely solely on Toyota’s and think they are the best. Toyota is boring and I could practically sleep while driving it. I barely visit the mechanic in fact I can’t even remember the last time I was there(Dec 2018 to change CVT fluid). I love Nissan.
I’m not here to promote Nissan but the reviews and mindset toward this lovely car manufacturer is unreliable and unfortunate even here on Nairaland. In fact we need a Nissan thread for owners and prospective owners. cheesy
Nissan are good cars o .. I don't know why Nigerians don't like Nissan at all .. Most likely due to maintenance culture..

Most Nigerias are looking for cars that they can abuse ,and if they don't have to do oil change self ,they are fine with than .. I don't think your Nissan is suppose to use 0w40 engine oil bro .. Please follow the manual on oil type and also I was told that Nissan transmission can be very unforgiving if you use the wrong ATF .. Especially on the Murano ... please follow owners manual at all times. Just because the car is not giving any issues now ,does not mean that the car is ok o .. Just like human beings too ..just because we look fine does mean that we are fully ok .. We need to go for check up . So check your car up too bro ..
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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by DukeNija(m): 8:11am On May 20, 2019
dru23:

Nissan are good cars o .. I don't know why Nigerians don't like Nissan at all .. Most likely due to maintenance culture..

Most Nigerias are looking for cars that they can abuse ,and if they don't have to do oil change self ,they are fine with than .. I don't think your Nissan is suppose to use 0w40 engine oil bro .. Please follow the manual on oil type and also I was told that Nissan transmission can be very unforgiving if you use the wrong ATF .. Especially on the Murano ... please follow owners manual at all times. Just because the car is not giving any issues now ,does not mean that the car is ok o .. Just like human beings too ..just because we look fine does mean that we are fully ok .. We need to go for check up . So check your car up too bro ..
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Yes you are right. Thanks

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by nissparts(m): 4:33pm On May 20, 2019
oblo:
I can say this with pride. Having driven a 1998 Nissan Primera, 2001 almera, and 2005 altima... We Nissan owners are just too comfy enjoying our rides. My current 2005 Nissan murano aka the workhorse has never given me any headache. Still on same gear and engine. Still travels Enugu to Lagos. Still starts at a go, never dropped me on the road, and I began to wonder how unrelated I hear the stories online. If you ask me I would buy another murano at the drop of a hat! Infact I would buy a Nissan any day anytime. Las Las na our maintenance culture be the ish. Take care of your ride and it would do same.

I have seen someone pour in manual gear oil into his engine because he was advised to do so as engine was smoking.. But Not gear oil ke.

Well let me go back to my hood before awon oni Toyota show face dey make noise. grin

Here's a quick tip, if it's not too late.
Stop traveling with the Murano.
The CVT is a poor design and it overheats during extended driving.
Except you have an external cooler installed, damage is imminent.

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by oblo(m): 9:48pm On May 20, 2019
nissparts:


Here's a quick tip, if it's not too late.
Stop traveling with the Murano.
The CVT is a poor design and it overheats during extended driving.
Except you have an external cooler installed, damage is imminent.

The boss. How are you doing? grin I actually beg to differ on this. In as much as I know the car has racked up some miles and getting older by the day I folow the service quite diligently especially the transmission. So far its been going strong and has never overheated anytime or ever dropped me.

I know the transmission cooler is inbuilt with the radiator and understand that part could fail sometimes so getting an external cooler won't be a bad idea at all.

Thanks for the heads up. wink

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by Princepitbull(m): 10:52pm On May 20, 2019
nissparts:


Here's a quick tip, if it's not too late.
Stop traveling with the Murano.
The CVT is a poor design and it overheats during extended driving.
Except you have an external cooler installed, damage is imminent.

@nissparts

I know CVT generally gets hot super fast..... Will Altima 2009 need an external cooler installed or the design has been improved on this production?

PS: Not really a frequent travler. She's on 250k presently

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by CityNGR: 2:25am On May 21, 2019
Heavenlybang this is your thread. Come and contribute here stop patrolling the Mercedes Benz thread

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by Nobody: 2:44am On May 21, 2019
Since they took the CVT route and their unholy alliance with Renault. Everything went sideways for them.
These were the truly indestructible Nissan of the yonder years and what i see in my head when I hear the name Nissan.

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by CityNGR: 5:05am On May 21, 2019
Heavenlybang has been scarce since he bought the Nissan.....

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by nissparts(m): 8:36am On May 21, 2019
Princepitbull:


@nissparts

I know CVT generally gets hot super fast..... Will Altima 2009 need an external cooler installed or the design has been improved on this production?

PS: Not really a frequent travler. She's on 250k presently




If you are not a frequent traveler you'll be fine

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by HeavenlyBang(m): 8:38am On May 21, 2019
CityNGR:
Heavenlybang this is your thread. Come and contribute here stop patrolling the Mercedes Benz thread

I don't drive a Nissan, mate. I drive an Infiniti. There's a qualitative difference.

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by Crixie(m): 9:00am On May 21, 2019
HeavenlyBang:


I don't drive a Nissan, mate. I drive an Infiniti. There's a qualitative difference.
There is a "qualitative difference" between Toyota n lexus or Honda n Acura?

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by CityNGR: 9:36am On May 21, 2019
HeavenlyBang:


I don't drive a Nissan, mate. I drive an Infiniti. There's a qualitative difference.
Tautology.

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by Nobody: 11:23am On May 21, 2019
nissparts:


If you are not a frequent traveler you'll be fine
From Japan (with Asia) across Europe to the US, the CVT virtually became standard on Nissan cars from 2007 or thereabouts. Would you be contending that no Nissan car is to be trusted with extended travelling since then?

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by nissparts(m): 12:01pm On May 21, 2019
Costee:

From Japan (with Asia) across Europe to the US, the CVT virtually became standard on Nissan cars from 2007 or thereabouts. Would you be contending that no Nissan car is to be trusted with extended travelling since then?

If the Pathfinder 2005- 2012 all have the rupturable radiator you shouldn't find this so hard to believe.
Also, if the CVT wasnt a formally identified concern, Nissan wouldnt specifically increase its warranty timeframe from 5 to 10 years

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by Nobody: 12:21pm On May 21, 2019
nissparts:


If the Pathfinder 2005- 2012 all have the rupturable radiator you shouldn't find this so hard to believe.
Also, if the CVT wasnt a formally identified concern, Nissan wouldnt specifically increase its warranty timeframe from 5 to 10 years
Nissan discontinued the radiator after 2012. It was inherently bad. I'm yet to read anywhere that Nissan's panacea it's " formally identified concern" on the cvt is to refrain from extended travelling.

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by nissparts(m): 12:29pm On May 21, 2019
Costee:

Nissan discontinued the radiator after 2012. It was inherently bad. I'm yet to read anywhere that Nissan's panacea it's " formally identified concern" on the cvt is to refrain from extended travelling.

Surely you dont expect a vehicle maker to tell the world that it cannot travel in its vehicles, that's not how it works.
Nissan has had an obviously high failure rate with CVTs all the way from 2002 till date but you will never see them admit that it's bad.
This is despite all the evidence, settled law suits and current law suits, all focused on their CVTs.
I can personally guarantee one thing though, a Nissan CVT with an additional external cooler will outlast one without it.

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by nissparts(m): 12:31pm On May 21, 2019
Costee:

Nissan discontinued the radiator after 2012. It was inherently bad. I'm yet to read anywhere that Nissan's panacea it's " formally identified concern" on the cvt is to refrain from extended travelling.

I ask, did Nissan really need 7 years of complaints and failures and law suits to discontinue that radiator?
Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by Nobody: 1:04pm On May 21, 2019
It must indeed be strange that Nissan has not closed shop. Warranty or not, why would anyone buy a car if it's generally accepted that it can't withstand extended travelling?

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by Nobody: 1:37pm On May 21, 2019
nissparts:


I ask, did Nissan really need 7 years of complaints and failures and law suits to discontinue that radiator?
To be fair, Nissan, later on, had an updated version of the radiator, that seemed to have fared better. At any rate, when a new model of the Pathy was introduced they installed a cvt in it, naturally making away with the former type radiator.
Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by nissparts(m): 2:28pm On May 21, 2019
Costee:

To be fair, Nissan, later on, had an updated version of the radiator, that seemed to have fared better. At any rate, when a new model of the Pathy was introduced they installed a cvt in it, naturally making away with the former type radiator.

And look at what happened? https://www.pathfindertalk.com/threads/percentage-of-pathfinders-that-do-not-have-the-cvt-issue.15178/

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by Nobody: 2:45pm On May 21, 2019
nissparts:


And look at what happened? https://www.pathfindertalk.com/threads/percentage-of-pathfinders-that-do-not-have-the-cvt-issue.15178/
Very familiar refrain. What I'm looking for are the stats that extended driving is a major cause of CVT failure.
PS. I recall there was a similar theory that heat was the primary cause of the failure of the tranny in the 6th Gen Maxima, and that an extra cooler would obviate that eventuality. As it turned out, the Achilles heel of the 6th Gen was actually the design of its shift solenoids. Again, Nissan ran away from that transmission and installed CVT mid-cycle of the model.

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by nissparts(m): 2:57pm On May 21, 2019
Costee:

Very familiar refrain. What I'm looking for are the stats that extended driving is a major cause of CVT failure.
PS. I recall there was a similar theory that heat was the primary cause of the failure of the tranny in the 6th Gen Maxima, and that an extra cooler would obviate that eventuality. As it turned out, the Achilles heel of the 6th Gen was actually the design of its shift solenoids. Again, Nissan ran away from that transmission and installed CVT mid-cycle of the model.

You will not find stats because this is a case of "those who know, know"
This is a Nissan TSB to address some CVT failures

NTB14002

IF YOU CONFIRM: The maximum vehicle speed is, or was, reduced by the CVT fail-safe logic after continuous operation under the following conditions: - High RPM and/or high speed driving (RPM of 4000+ or speeds of 65 mph [104.6 km/h] for 1.0 - 1.5 hrs.or more) - Driving in ambient temperature of 96 degrees or higher - Climbing steep or extended hills for 6 miles (9.6 km) or more - Whine or rattle type noise occurring during reduced ‪engine‬ performance (vehicle speed decrease) NOTE: Before applying this bulletin, check and repair any DTCs first. ACTION: Install SERVICE KIT-COOLER ASSY (see PARTS INFORMATION). NOTE: This kit is on part restriction. Use the order form at the end of this bulletin. See this bulletin for further detail.

But hey, don't take my word for it.

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Re: Why Are Nissan Cars Overlooked? by Nobody: 3:31pm On May 21, 2019
Nice reference, though I have the updated version NTB14-002a. As you have rightly mentioned it refers to some CVT failures. The TSB, in fact, refers to Rogue specifically (S35:2008-2012). I have a list of all Nissan CVT models and I have tried to track down the problematic ones. These are: RE0F10A, RE0F10D, and RE010E. Here you'll see Rogue, Altima, and Pathfinder for varying model years. I can't explain why, but maybe ideas from that TSB might be applied to resolve the issues. RE0F09A was used in the Murano before 2007, but the was updated to RE0F09B and has been used on the Murano and the Maxima since 2007 with little complaints. So if we're to use extra coolers on the CVT we should be selective.

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