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theAccountant:
Your faith and believe in God has nothing to do with your prosperity.
Work hard and you'll prosper.
Don't work hard you'll suffer.
That's how the world work.
No amount of prayer will save Nigeria.
Just going the right things as commanded by God will.
So China will prosper forever, even though they don't have God.
And Nigeria may be in destitute for ever, even though they have God.
Stay real

God will bless you for this, all that load of tosh written by the Op is just churning my stomach. Quoting a passage in hebrew an Old Testament to try to butress his nonsense.

Never read such myopic and senseless writeup in my life.

It is too early on this sunday morning to read hate based religious sentiments.

Op carry your hate and go away. Who made you judge and executioner? Knowing who belongs to heaven and who belongs to hell. Chai!

Chai! With this kind of Christians Nigeria deserves what it is getting....

asuustrike1:
May the Almighty bless you from Zion.
May he make his face to shine upon you and be gracious unto
May he lift up his countenance upon

When your Almighty lives in Zion, it's safe to say your brain lives far away from you.

Have been living here since 2011,I would prefer doing business with a chinese compare to some naija hmm make I just shut my mouth up.

Contact me if you would like to come here to study ,partial scholarships available.

There is no job in China and working with a student visa can get you deported.

See my details below.

alBHAGDADI:
These days, it is common to see people compare the situation in Nigeria, which has a huge population of Christians, to that of China a non-christian country. The people who make such comparison often say China which doesn't believe in the Christian God is prosperous with modern technology, industries, good governance etc, while Nigeria which they say is highly religious is filled with corruption, bad governance, infrastructural decay, poverty etc.

When these people make such comparison, what they are saying is that Nigerians need to put religion aside and devote their time to work for their country"s development. Well, it is a good thing to work for the development of one's country, but putting religion (Christianity) aside is one big evil advice. They are basically saying we should abandon God and chart our course ourselves.

The people who make these statements are usually the people against tithing and also against going to Church. According to them, how come China that doesn't pay tithe or have Churches is prosperous than Nigeria which has countless Churches and tithe payers? To an untrained Christian, their talk can make you lose the love for the things of God, but only those who read the Bible regularly are the ones who will not fall. They will not fall for those satanic lies of theirs because they stand on the word on God, which is what we will stand on today.

Hebrews 12:6-11 King James Version (KJV)
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.


Did you read the Bible passage above? It speaks of God's children and other children who are bastards. Did you see what the passage said about what happens to the sons of God? It says they will be chastised because God loves them i.e if they do wrong, they will be disciplined for it. It went on to state that any son who doesn't get chastised by God is a bastard son or not God's son.

A quick illustration is this: If your child asks you why you don't beat the child across the street who does whatever he likes which are mostly things you hate as a father, what will be your answer? You will simply tell your child that that kid across the street is not your child and so you are not going to spank him for doing whatever he wants. But for your own kid, you will spank him when he errs and reward him when he does good.

This is exactly what is happening with China. They are not God's children because they reject Christianity. They have decided to chart their course by themselves and have removed God from the equation. To them they are right in their own eyes.

Proverbs 14:12 (KJV)
There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

God is not punishing them because they are not his children. That's why they prosper and get away with many things until judgment day.

But we his children, even though we may be going through trying times, we still prosper in the end. Example is Joseph whose brothers hated, sold into slavery and was locked up in jail. What later became his end? He was made second in command to the pharaoh of Egypt and was mightily blessed. What about Job? He was the most perfect and upright man in his region at the time but lost all he had in one day. He lost ten children, his cattle, sheep, camels etc. It became worse that he was even covered with sores. What was his end? God blessed him and all he lost were restored more than before.

Did Joseph or Job abandoned God during their trial period? No, they didn't. So, why are you paying attention to the voice that says you should dump God because Nigeria is going through a rough time? Why do you want to stop paying tithe because Dangote or Bill Gates who doesn't pay tithe is richer than you and they keep prospering? If you disobey God, he will discipline you as a father would. The reason why billionaires and non-christian are getting away with disobeying Good is simply because he's not punishing them because they are not his children. But he will destroy them in the end because he's their maker whom they failed to acknowledge.

Yes things are bad in Nigeria, but are they totally bad? Have you been to some African countries like Somalia, Sudan, Sierra Leone etc? Even Ghana respects us very much. But because we are not like China that is older than us, we are now being deceived to dump God and do whatever we like.

The day of reckoning is coming for all those who have abandoned God. Their destruction will be Swift and unexpected. But till then...

Joshua 24:15 (KJV)
And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD , choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD .

Yes they're right. Leave religion aside and work. Y'all taking a foreign God more serious than the foreigners.

Confusion,
The combine common sense with Bible verse to prove their point, if you argue with them kb common sense level, then they say the Bible supersede common sense.

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What do you know about Christianity?

Your parents indoctrinated you. The pastors fed you with the word. You take it as the absolute truth based on your convictions to the point that you believe that other religions are fake.

God is the ultimate. Religion is only a vehicle. Keep deluding yourselves in believing that your belief is better than others.

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alBHAGDADI:
Some of them get destroyed here on Earth for their wicked ways e.g Sodom and Gomorrah, but most of them will wait till life after death before receiving their punishment.

Those irreligious Nations aren't God's sons.

What has once saved always saved got to do with this?

I don't understand, the place of ones birth fully determines which religion one follows, if the Op was born in china, am sure his religion will also be Buddhism.

Brainwashed mofos. Maybe Chinese gods are more powerful than the Jewish god that was brought to enslave Africans. Definitely, he'll be concerned with his children the Jews. Y'all are their slaves.

theoldpretender:
Yes, China is developed but...

1.China has a lot of poor people, and poverty is rampant. Some areas look like they are very poor.

2.China has a culture of valuing education...but that is due to a guy called Confucius. Confucius was a religious leader who among many other things taught Chinese that education was very valuable.

3.China's education system is a strict meritocracy. (Because when your school going population is in the hundreds of millions...you have no choice).

4.China has very limited natural resources. So it is either you industrialise or forget it.

5.Under the atheistic Chairman Mao, China was severely underdeveloped due to a combination of very bad economic practices, and something called the Cultural Revolution. Why they are developed now has something to do with 'capitalisim'.

6.Nigeria is not developed for the simple reasons that Nigerians have this idea of sourcing for their daily bread...which renders us incapable of long term planning.Also the fact that we have natural resources has rendered us lazy.

7. To all those atheists out there...Vietnam is an anteistic nation...yet is poor. As is North Korea...whose budget is not up to one quarter of the deeply religious and sometimes conservative South Korea.

I like how you cherry pick facts to support belief in religion. Here are some wholesome facts for you


1) The most developed countries (Norway, Switzerland, Australia, Ireland, Denmark) according to HDI all have 3 things in common
-Secularism with high number of atheists
-A continuous decline in number of christians
-A high investment and good attitude towards education
-Gay rights.

2) South Korea is the 5th most atheistic country in the world and 56% do not follow any religion.

3) The poorest countries in the world are all very very religious

Aaronsrod:
Bless you my broda.

We will live to see the day when God will destroy this Chinese Arabs and Oyinbo nations. They do not worship Him or offer tithes. Helfire will be their portion. It is well.

Nigeria will rise amongst nations though our faith in Jesus.

The day when we shall sit and judge at His right hand is nigh O!!

Brother your writeup is clearly racist and borderline terrorism.

theoldpretender:
Yes, China is developed but...

1.China has a lot of poor people, and poverty is rampant. Some areas look like they are very poor.

2.China has a culture of valuing education...but that is due to a guy called Confucius. Confucius was a religious leader who among many other things taught Chinese that education was very valuable.

3.China's education system is a strict meritocracy. (Because when your school going population is in the hundreds of millions...you have no choice).

4.China has very limited natural resources. So it is either you industrialise or forget it.

5.Under the atheistic Chairman Mao, China was severely underdeveloped due to a combination of very bad economic practices, and something called the Cultural Revolution. Why they are developed now has something to do with 'capitalisim'.

6.Nigeria is not developed for the simple reasons that Nigerians have this idea of sourcing for their daily bread...which renders us incapable of long term planning.Also the fact that we have natural resources has rendered us lazy.

7. To all those atheists out there...Vietnam is an anteistic nation...yet is poor. As is North Korea...whose budget is not up to one quarter of the deeply religious and sometimes conservative South Korea.

You are deluded.



Religion doesn't determine the wealth of a nation. Uganda,Ethiopia,South Sudan are all christain religion country but yet they are poor. Like wise Burma,Vietnam, Nepal are Buddhist country but still poor. Niger Republic, Chad, Mali are Muslim dominated country but they are poor.

I'm not convinced, there are many predominant christian countries in Africa, Europe and America, Australia that acts against the warning of God and still their countries progressing.

You should advice our politicians irrespective of their religions to be governing the country with fear of God, so far all of us answerable to only one God on the day of judgement.

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Aaronsrod:
Bless you my broda.

We will live to see the day when God will destroy this Chinese Arabs and Oyinbo nations. They do not worship Him or offer tithes. Helfire will be their portion. It is well.

Nigeria will rise amongst nations though our faith in Jesus.

The day when we shall sit and judge at His right hand is nigh O!!

Mr righteous! judge not so that ye will not be judged

wunmi590:
It is not about leaving God or not, even if all Nigerian leave Nigeria and go to China, believe me Nigerians would spoil the country.

We Nigerians are the enemies of ourselves, we hardly comport ourselves in society.

Yes you're right, i do business over there atimes and i see most of Nigerian already constituting problems over there, but the only problem the hv is the police and institutions work over there, try nonsense and you'll see yourself in mortala Mohammed airport immediately.

Sir, I really like the way u started ur argument but when u started quoting the bible u believe in then I knew it was no longer a logical discussion... Again, personally I wud say, I respect ur opinion and how u follow these things u are born and brought up with... If u were born out of the christain home and never had the previledge to mingle with one, am very sure u wud talk in a different direction.

Personally, I do not have a problem with the God issue, my problem is that man has kept deceiving man in d name of God and religion generally. They "blind fold" humanity and keep at doing all silly things in the name of God who wud not intervain but in His "merciful" way allow man deal with man in His name.

Yestday, I was telling my wife and Frnds: U see another reason y church issues are fraud, some pastors did vigil saying God directed d pastor to conduct vigil, did God not reveal to the pastor that d (s)election wud b postponed?

Someone has a medical issue, instead of going to seek medical care they keep seeking the blood of God that never comes, spiritual they wud say even for non spiritual medical issues... In a sane world, u wud hear of a cancer patient devote time to even join in seeking solution for cancer for self and others... My point, religion has no solution per say for man!

See my old writeup on religion/God issue. Its my personal view not as an atheist please. Read through with an open mind before u conclude bro.

https://www.nairaland.com/4000489/does-god-interfere-human-race

Aaronsrod:
Bless you my broda.
We will live to see the day when God will destroy this Chinese Arabs and Oyinbo nations. They do not worship Him or offer tithes. Helfire will be their portion. It is well.
Nigeria will rise amongst nations though our faith in Jesus.
The day when we shall sit and judge at His right hand is nigh O!!

Do u people really mean these things u say....u r radiating so much hate...why d bitterness

People associate physical prosperity with God, it's far different from that. Physical prosperity comes from hard work what God is interested in is the spiritual prosperity. If you work as hard as China you will be like China... Case closed. Travel to other planets like the voyager 1, you will discover that earth and everything in it is insignificant. Just one tiny dot from neptune. God will even regret mentioning himself to man.

alBHAGDADI:
These days, it is common to see people compare the situation in Nigeria, which has a huge population of Christians, to that of China a non-christian country. The people who make such comparison often say China which doesn't believe in the Christian God is prosperous with modern technology, industries, good governance etc, while Nigeria which they say is highly religious is filled with corruption, bad governance, infrastructural decay, poverty etc.

When these people make such comparison, what they are saying is that Nigerians need to put religion aside and devote their time to work for their country"s development. Well, it is a good thing to work for the development of one's country, but putting religion (Christianity) aside is one big evil advice. They are basically saying we should abandon God and chart our course ourselves.

The people who make these statements are usually the people against tithing and also against going to Church. According to them, how come China that doesn't pay tithe or have Churches is prosperous than Nigeria which has countless Churches and tithe payers? To an untrained Christian, their talk can make you lose the love for the things of God, but only those who read the Bible regularly are the ones who will not fall. They will not fall for those satanic lies of theirs because they stand on the word on God, which is what we will stand on today.

Hebrews 12:6-11 King James Version (KJV)
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.


Did you read the Bible passage above? It speaks of God's children and other children who are bastards. Did you see what the passage said about what happens to the sons of God? It says they will be chastised because God loves them i.e if they do wrong, they will be disciplined for it. It went on to state that any son who doesn't get chastised by God is a bastard son or not God's son.

A quick illustration is this: If your child asks you why you don't beat the child across the street who does whatever he likes which are mostly things you hate as a father, what will be your answer? You will simply tell your child that that kid across the street is not your child and so you are not going to spank him for doing whatever he wants. But for your own kid, you will spank him when he errs and reward him when he does good.

This is exactly what is happening with China. They are not God's children because they reject Christianity. They have decided to chart their course by themselves and have removed God from the equation. To them they are right in their own eyes.

Proverbs 14:12 (KJV)
There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

God is not punishing them because they are not his children. That's why they prosper and get away with many things until judgment day.

But we his children, even though we may be going through trying times, we still prosper in the end. Example is Joseph whose brothers hated, sold into slavery and was locked up in jail. What later became his end? He was made second in command to the pharaoh of Egypt and was mightily blessed. What about Job? He was the most perfect and upright man in his region at the time but lost all he had in one day. He lost ten children, his cattle, sheep, camels etc. It became worse that he was even covered with sores. What was his end? God blessed him and all he lost were restored more than before.

Did Joseph or Job abandoned God during their trial period? No, they didn't. So, why are you paying attention to the voice that says you should dump God because Nigeria is going through a rough time? Why do you want to stop paying tithe because Dangote or Bill Gates who doesn't pay tithe is richer than you and they keep prospering? If you disobey God, he will discipline you as a father would. The reason why billionaires and non-christian are getting away with disobeying Good is simply because he's not punishing them because they are not his children. But he will destroy them in the end because he's their maker whom they failed to acknowledge.

Yes things are bad in Nigeria, but are they totally bad? Have you been to some African countries like Somalia, Sudan, Sierra Leone etc? Even Ghana respects us very much. But because we are not like China that is older than us, we are now being deceived to dump God and do whatever we like.

The day of reckoning is coming for all those who have abandoned God. Their destruction will be Swift and unexpected. But till then...

Joshua 24:15 (KJV)
And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD , choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD .

OP.... you are still deceiving yourself by justifying from a book with unverified stories. You can now see that you are your own problem.......

fk001:
You are deluded.



Religion doesn't determine the wealth of a nation. Uganda,Ethiopia,South Sudan are all christain religion country but yet they are poor. Like wise Burma,Vietnam, Nepal are Buddhist country but still poor. Niger Republic, Chad, Mali are Muslim dominated country but they are poor.

Well, duh. That is the point of my post...that the factors that determine the development of a country go way beyond 'religion'.

Anyone can be a devoted atheist, and still fail in life if he or she doesn't work hard enough. Same for the religious.

1Sharon:
Hallelujah.

It may appear funny that Nigerians are very religious with poor development and suffering all around, but we will be rewarded In heaven.

Other nations that think they are smarter than god so turned their back on him will experience death in this life and the next

the bolded is one of d most senseless thing I've ever come across, thats how ur religious leaders let u wallow in poverty while promising u heavenly heritage.

izzou:
So God will destroy China?

Your thread should start gracing the Jokes section. You are starting to sound unserious every Sunday

Maybe he thinks making fp all the time means he's making sense. I always laugh at his threads .

BeLookingIDIOT:
You also have many irreligious xtian nations that are prosperous,why isnt their God chastising them?
They are the one's doing more wrong,shouldn't they be more punished?
Arent they also his sons
lets not forget you subscribe to the once saved always saved doctrine.

Your head dey there.

Op is only defending his stomach.

FYI, China didn't "abandon God". Whatever that means. There are quite a number of churches and mosques here.


If indeed there's hell, the hottest part of it will be reserved for the op and his fellow pastors who wickedly con simple people out of their resources selling them fake hope.

italy is a highly religious country and still making it, i think its more about faith and work and not faith and faith.

alBHAGDADI:
Not only China but this wicked world filled with men like you who see the truth but chose to brace the lie.

Dis one is uber deluded walahi

1Sharon:
Hallelujah.

It may appear funny that Nigerians are very religious with poor development and suffering all around, but we will be rewarded In heaven.

Other nations that think they are smarter than god so turned their back on him will experience death in this life and the next

What re u pple saying


Mehn!!! Dis Africa nd backwardness sef

alBHAGDADI:
These days, it is common to see people compare the situation in Nigeria, which has a huge population of Christians, to that of China a non-christian country. The people who make such comparison often say China which doesn't believe in the Christian God is prosperous with modern technology, industries, good governance etc, while Nigeria which they say is highly religious is filled with corruption, bad governance, infrastructural decay, poverty etc.

When these people make such comparison, what they are saying is that Nigerians need to put religion aside and devote their time to work for their country"s development. Well, it is a good thing to work for the development of one's country, but putting religion (Christianity) aside is one big evil advice. They are basically saying we should abandon God and chart our course ourselves.

The people who make these statements are usually the people against tithing and also against going to Church. According to them, how come China that doesn't pay tithe or have Churches is prosperous than Nigeria which has countless Churches and tithe payers? To an untrained Christian, their talk can make you lose the love for the things of God, but only those who read the Bible regularly are the ones who will not fall. They will not fall for those satanic lies of theirs because they stand on the word on God, which is what we will stand on today.

Hebrews 12:6-11 King James Version (KJV)
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.


Did you read the Bible passage above? It speaks of God's children and other children who are bastards. Did you see what the passage said about what happens to the sons of God? It says they will be chastised because God loves them i.e if they do wrong, they will be disciplined for it. It went on to state that any son who doesn't get chastised by God is a bastard son or not God's son.

A quick illustration is this: If your child asks you why you don't beat the child across the street who does whatever he likes which are mostly things you hate as a father, what will be your answer? You will simply tell your child that that kid across the street is not your child and so you are not going to spank him for doing whatever he wants. But for your own kid, you will spank him when he errs and reward him when he does good.

This is exactly what is happening with China. They are not God's children because they reject Christianity. They have decided to chart their course by themselves and have removed God from the equation. To them they are right in their own eyes.

Proverbs 14:12 (KJV)
There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

God is not punishing them because they are not his children. That's why they prosper and get away with many things until judgment day.

But we his children, even though we may be going through trying times, we still prosper in the end. Example is Joseph whose brothers hated, sold into slavery and was locked up in jail. What later became his end? He was made second in command to the pharaoh of Egypt and was mightily blessed. What about Job? He was the most perfect and upright man in his region at the time but lost all he had in one day. He lost ten children, his cattle, sheep, camels etc. It became worse that he was even covered with sores. What was his end? God blessed him and all he lost were restored more than before.

Did Joseph or Job abandoned God during their trial period? No, they didn't. So, why are you paying attention to the voice that says you should dump God because Nigeria is going through a rough time? Why do you want to stop paying tithe because Dangote or Bill Gates who doesn't pay tithe is richer than you and they keep prospering? If you disobey God, he will discipline you as a father would. The reason why billionaires and non-christian are getting away with disobeying Good is simply because he's not punishing them because they are not his children. But he will destroy them in the end because he's their maker whom they failed to acknowledge.

Yes things are bad in Nigeria, but are they totally bad? Have you been to some African countries like Somalia, Sudan, Sierra Leone etc? Even Ghana respects us very much. But because we are not like China that is older than us, we are now being deceived to dump God and do whatever we like.

The day of reckoning is coming for all those who have abandoned God. Their destruction will be Swift and unexpected. But till then...

Joshua 24:15 (KJV)
And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD , choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD .

Ode, oponu, arindin

our religious leaders caused this... I can remember Vividly that the missionaries who brought this same religion here were loving ,caring and gave back to the society more.. they built schools, hospitals, chapels, roads and so many things. but this one's were all after money.. they all wanna receive but give nothing back.. everyone is selfish and looking out on how to outsmart the rest.. many are not called but they wanna spend free money..

now to the advanced countries... aren't the old civilization too like that... Egypt, Greece , Rome, Babylon etc...
our major problem is that we don't apply the WORD of God to ourselves...the word of God is the background to development and growth... the wisdom and knowledge to making a better country in technology, innovations and growth are all in The Bible... but our people put more emphasis on enemies, Attack, household witches. not minding that the only thing that can make a country grow is a change mindset..until we stop and think deeply to jettison enemies etc but see ourselves applying some wisdom and understanding of God word. we can beat the odd..

Aaronsrod:
Bless you my broda.

We will live to see the day when God will destroy this Chinese Arabs and Oyinbo nations. They do not worship Him or offer tithes. Helfire will be their portion. It is well.

Nigeria will rise amongst nations though our faith in Jesus.

The day when we shall sit and judge at His right hand is nigh O!!

Keep waiting... Fools,risen my foot

izzou:


Unfortunately for you, you are not God...

Jesus has died for everyone. Jesus died for me, you, the Chinese, the Arabian, the Atheist..... And so on. All they need to do is to believe. That's all. So where did Jesus propose destruction for those who don't believe?

Many religions believe in God. Christians do, Islamists do, Buddhists do, and so on.... Why don't you let God decide what kind of punishment they deserve? Who are you, a pencil, to decide who God will destroy?

You should be bothered if you will make heaven. That's what I do. It won't make any sense if you sound this religious and sanctimonious, and you end up in hell with Shekau

Your threads are useless though. I'm a Christian, but I always read your thread to see the clever ways you try to interpret the truth so it massages your ego

If I were a mod, your thread will make the front-page, but it must be in the jokes section

You've said it all bro. Who is he to jugde them? They have their own religion for crying out loud. They have their believes same way he has his own.
No religion is right or wrong as long as we do what we know is right then I believe we are on a right part.

1Sharon:
Hallelujah.

It may appear funny that Nigerians are very religious with poor development and suffering all around, but we will be rewarded In heaven.

Other nations that think they are smarter than god so turned their back on him will experience death in this life and the next

Lol keep motivating yourself