Sirheny007:
Akpororo did not become a landlord by paying tithe! He became a landlord because he worked hard for it.

Anybody who tells me I need to pay tithe before I can be considered for salvation is either after my money, or raving mad.

Can we say you don't own a house yet because you're lazy or because you ain't working hard enough? If hardwork is it, plenty pipu for don get house na.
Frz ain't talking about paying for salvation. He insisted paying tithe is sin and not commanded by God.
And this guy kept saying something in his Instagram post: he said Frz should respect people's choices. Wether you pay tithe or not should be nobody's problem na. Abi?

Olulinks:

Do you know whom Seun is paying his too? If you don't see it doesn't mean it ain't happening. You don see God before? Can you say God doesn't exist because you haven't seen Him before?

People give, as in philanthropy and this is so very commendable because you don't have to be of any religious leaning to be a heart that gives. That "paying" in the context of the present teachings is so off, you do not have to "pay" to any religious organization nor religious leader to "sanctify" what from your heart you want to share with others.

I find it difficult to reconcile with people who diminish people who have a preference for channeling directly what they want to give back to humanity, convinced that if it not channelled through the Church, it invalidates the giving.

Lifestone:

You have to first admit that Jesus Christ did not oppose tithing rather he ratified it.
Why did Jesus Christ had a Treasurer?
For Paul and Peter, lots of things they did were not recorded. I can as well ask what kind of bed were they sleeping on while in Ministry.

Sorry, that question you ask sounds dumb compare to the question I asked you. Did Jesus have tresurers to collect tithe or what? Read the whole of Mathew 23 ,stop quoting where suites you. Tithing is of the law, and the law as being done away with. Read Galatians 3 and you can read the whole of Galatians to enlighten yourself. I don't knife what kind of evil spirit ministers to Nigerian Christians.

sshyne:


Sorry, that question you ask sounds dumb compare to the question I asked you. Did Jesus have tresurers to collect tithe or what? Read the whole of Mathew 23 ,stop quoting where suites you. Tithing is of the law, and the law as being done away with. Read Galatians 3 and you can read the whole of Galatians to enlighten yourself. I don't knife what kind of evil spirit ministers to Nigerian Christians.

This was supposed to be a matured discussion and debate, why throwing insults. I don't see why I should further this with you.

Olulinks:

Can we say you don't own a house yet because you're lazy or because you ain't working hard enough? If hardwork is it, plenty pipu for don get house na.
Frz ain't talking about paying for salvation. He insisted paying tithe is sin and not commanded by God.
And this guy kept saying something in his Instagram post: he said Frz should respect people's choices. Wether you pay tithe or not should be nobody's problem na. Abi?

Don't lie against Freeze.
Freeze is against pastors coercing people to pay tithe in exchange for God's blessings.
Most people who paid tithe today do not do so because they really want to; they do it because their pastors have threatened them with all sorts of evil with misinterpreted Bible verses. And then use the said tithe to enrich themselves.
This is exactly the scenario in Nigeria and Freeze is trying to emancipate these people brainwashed by pastors to pay tithe

Anybody that wants to seek attentions will just mention Daddy Freeze in his/her post, and the post will just go wao

Daddy Freeze has done what God sent him, but the scammers must always fight back.

Sirheny007:
Akpororo did not become a landlord by paying tithe! He became a landlord because he worked hard for it.

Anybody who tells me I need to pay tithe before I can be considered for salvation is either after my money, or raving mad.

Mumu... what you are saying is, nah by your power , might , strength, hardworking you take reach where you are, abi? No God's input in your achievement, abi?

Ask, King Herod what happened to him in Act 8 ....may that situation not be your portion ijn.amen.

lonelydora:


Stop this. I know many rich people who pays tithe also. The Dangote you know doesn't call it tithe but he donates to churches whenever he has the opportunity.

You that don't pay tithe, are you better than those that pay?

Is donation & tithe d same thing?

Lifestone:

This was supposed to be a matured discussion and debate, why throwing insults. I don't see why I should further this with you.

Am sorry if I sounded insultive. I really need to hear from you

Gforce2019:


Mumu... what you are saying is, nah by your power , might , strength, hardworking you take reach where you are, abi? No God's input in your achievement, abi?

Ask, King Herod what happened to him in Act 8 ....may that situation not be your portion ijn.amen.

More often than not, it is. God gave u a brain& time 4a purpose. God has done his part. What other input do u want him to input?

Let's state the facts. Most of those against tithing are stingy people. Still, they haven't achieved much except to rant and complain. They are the ones who borrow from others.
Personally, I don't like paying tithes but I still give gifts to people and pastors.
I also work hard and I am prosperous for it.

Who is this idiot? Apkororo bought land and built a house because he is working and earning money as a comedian,he is ripping what he showed and this has nothing to do with tithes,dude is earning money from comedy shows.

bonna4u:

Read again. Jesus was chastising them on how they lay so much emphasis on tithing which is less important while neglecting the more important things that has to do with humanity. So Jesus was pointing out the hypocrisy in the tithers takes it all sermon.

Did Jesus Christ condemn tithing in that passage or he upheld it even though he stated that Judgement, Mercy and Faith are more important?

sshyne:

Am sorry if I sounded insultive. I really need to hear from you

I appreciate you.
Back to the discussion. My take is that Matthew 23 represent the height of Jesus Christ disagreement with the Pharisees highlighting their hypocrisy of asking people to do what they themselves don't do. If you notice Matthew 23 vs 23a, it shows clearly that the Pharisees were not in compliance with what they requested others to do and that trend ran through the entire Mathew 23.
The Galatia 3 you quoted is similar in circumstances with the event that lead to Mathew 23. After Paul's left Galatia, certain elements of Church leadership were. re-imposing the law and Paul needs to admonish them that they were saved by faith and not by law. In faith is the fulfilment of the law.
What's faith here, Hebrew 11 vs 1 tells us that faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen, in essence it's my faith that matters. If my faith believes that I should pay tithes it will happen to me as I believed.
So my point is that nobody should impose his/her believe on others as Freeze and his new disciples are trying to do calling adherents of tithing stupid and sheepy, they are behaving like the Pharisees.

Pavore9:
Who is Mark Zuckerberg paying his tithe to, if it is about material wealth?

ok, as you have not been paying,are you now Zuckerberg or next to him? A dude who pays got a mansion,show us your own,Mr Zuckerman

bionixs:
ok, as you have not been paying,are you now Zuckerberg or next to him? A dude who pays got a mansion,show us your own,Mr Zuckerman

There is no compulsion in paying or not.

Pavore9:


There is no compulsion in paying or not.

don't know why people make those who pay feel being cheated simply because they CANT pay. it works for me(just for me,don't know about the guy next to me) like fire and I can't stop.

lexy2014:


Is donation & tithe d same thing?

Just give to God no matter the name you decide to call yours

bionixs:
don't know why people make those who pay feel being cheated simply because they CANT pay. it works for me(just for me,don't know about the guy next to me) like fire and I can't stop.

Mind you not all who are not paying it, cannot afford but rather one can also look into the angle of earlier personal experience with con men at the pulpit, it makes some develop discomfort for anything tithing and expressing it, is their means of coping.

lexy2014:


More often than not, it is. God gave u a brain& time 4a purpose. God has done his part. What other input do u want him to input?

God endowed you with natural talent and ability and also see you through in your achievement...

I'm what I'm by the grace of God


He deserves all glory in every all our achievement...

Pavore9:


Mind you not all who are not paying it, cannot afford but rather one can also look into the angle of earlier personal experience with con men at the pulpit, it makes some develop discomfort for anything tithing and expressing it, is their means of coping.

my brother,we get it all wrong. it is not your duty to confirm if the cleric at the pulpit is a con man or not. you should pay your tithe to GOD whom he represents. it is GOD the rewarder of the tither that judges. If you expect GOD to reward you and not the man at the pulpit,YOU should look beyond. Tithe and offering are not funds raised for a project in the church that you should investigate how it is been used. We give tithe and offering to God and depend on His rewards as he promised. The man on the pulpit is not the rewarder. Apart from tithe,If you don't like the face of the man on the pulpit and don't trust or believe him, why being there at the first place? 2 chronicles 20:20 ..... believe the Lord your GOD so you can be established, believe His PROPHET(the man on the pulpit) so you can PROSPER. Go to where you would believe the man on the pulpit for your own good. it is not good to be wasting your time in the church where you don't believe the clergyman.
Remember,GOD doesn't demand from you what you don't have.
We PAY our tithe (10% of your earning) to God. It is NOT your own.
We GIVE Offering (as you wish,it is called freewill offering) not by force or compulsions.
IT WORKS FOR ME,DONT KNOW ABOUT THE MAN NEXT TO ME. I CANT STOP EVEN IF THE PRIEST ASKS ME TO

Gforce2019:


God endowed you with natural talent and ability and also see you through in your achievement...

I'm what I'm by the grace of God


He deserves all glory in every all our achievement...

What exactly does d "seeing through" entail? Pls expantiate

lonelydora:


Just give to God no matter the name you decide to call yours

U didn't answer d question. Is tithing & donation d same thing? If a person gives offering without giving tithe, is he or she covered by d blessing of tithing?

alBHAGDADI:
Did Jesus Christ condemn tithing in that passage or he upheld it even though he stated that Judgement, Mercy and Faith are more important?

Read inbetween the lines.

Lifestone:

I believe you guys and your mentor, Freeze is confused about Christian's doctrine of tithing. We have never said you should not work hard because you are paying tithe and neither was it said that you can't be blessed, the point here is that your tithing provides a covering on your hustling and defends your earnings from wastages. It's a doctrinal issue and backed by scripture.
Like someone said earlier don't pay if you don't believe but don't call those who believe and paying stupid.

I send u love vibes cos u sound so bitter. I was against the guy for making it sound like its the tithe that gave him a house just as he said it was Rita's long single hood that gave her a husband. But I guess ur over shadowed mind didn't see that. I pay tithe but not happy the way ppl see it as the only way God can bless u. I know for sure that 65% of churches in Nigeria is fraudulent, most pastors have soiled their hands diabolically hence the divine blessings not readily available.
Am done wit u

Elliot2:
You only become more prudent in spending ur left cash after a 10% cut therefore looking like something magic happened; and moreover ur mind helps to heal most of ur health issues since it is at peace or in a self denial state of reality. Whichever way, just anybody can do that without necessarily paying tithe

I don't want to judge u, neither will I impose tithing on you...Please do what works for u but don't tell people to stop tithing, that could be misleading as much as telling them to tithe.

The first people who tithed did it out of their own accord.

Abraham tithed of his spoil to Melchizedek before giving what was left to his servants that went with him to war.

Jacob promised to give God a tenth of all he had while returning from Laban his uncles house, even when he wasn't sure of having lot to part with.

There are deep things about this tithing that it had to be passed on to Generations after Generation.
There is something about this tithing that it has been a topic to debate over.
Let me die in the folly of tithing, let the wise refrain from it.

He paid his tithe, or sold his soul to Freemasonry /illuminati??

THE SCRIPTURE YOU JUST QUOTED EVEN STRENGTHENS UCHES POSITION, JESUS same way you hold on to faithfully paying tithes, you should do it alongside with Justice, mercy and faithfulness, don't neglect the former.Pay your tithe and believe in Salvation principles too,

bonna4u:
Attention seeker. Some people will just be quoting half of Bible verses to deceive people. Matthew 23:23 New International Version (NIV)
23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
Uche Mumu, Jesus was talking to people like you here.

fekolastic:
THE SCRIPTURE YOU JUST QUOTED EVEN STRENGTHENS UCHES POSITION, JESUS same way you hold on to faithfully paying tithes, you should do it alongside with Justice, mercy and faithfulness, don't neglect the former.Pay your tithe and believe in Salvation principles too,

My problem was with Uche quoting half of the verse and making it seem as if the only thing God/Jesus requires of his people is tithe.