₦airaland Forum

boldaslion:
When I see the write up of someone who has never crossed Ondo state boundary to Benin commenting on what happens in Igbo land, I always don't find it difficult to know. This is a typical example.

Balkan:
forget these your old rhetorics. Igbos are more United than Yorubas. You are pained how they are polically determining the political land scape of Lagos. We speak with one voice. The whole SS/SE voted PDP but in SW they are all divided btw APC and PDP.

What is pursuing your brothers scattered all over Nigeria selling Agbo and doing kabukabu everywhere?

This Saturday's election, you will see the number of seat Igbos will will in in your state assembly. This is something you have to deal with.

Lagos belongs to all. No Igbo man will travel again to register in SS or SE.

Balkan:
forget these your old rhetorics. Igbos are more United than Yorubas. You are pained how they are polically determining the political land scape of Lagos. We speak with one voice. The whole SS/SE voted PDP but in SW they are all divided btw APC and PDP.

What is pursuing your brothers scattered all over Nigeria selling Agbo and doing kabukabu everywhere?

This Saturday's election, you will see the number of seat Igbos will will in in your state assembly. This is something you have to deal with.

Lagos belongs to all. No Igbo man will travel again to register in SS or SE.

WORDWORLD:
THE SIMPLE FACT IS THIS. THE KIND OF HOSPITALITY THE IGBOS ENJOY ALL OVER NIGERIA. SUCH HOSPITALITY IS NOT RECIPROCATED IN IGBO LANDS TO OTHER TRIBES LIVING IN IGBO LAND, THE MOST IRONY IS THIS, NOT EVEN TO FELLOW IGBOS IN THEIR OWN HOMES ARE HOSPITABLE TO EACH OTHER WHICH IS A MAJOR REASON THE IGBO MAN IS SCATTERD EVERY WHERE ABANDONING HIS OWN HOME BECAUSE IT IS NOT HOSPITABLE EVEN TO HIMSELF.

IS IT NOT AMAZING HOW THE HAUSAS IN LAGOS TRAVEL BACK HOME DURING ELECTIONS TO VOTE FOR THEIR OWN WHILE THE IGBOS STAY PUT TO MAKE TROUBLE?!

AND ALTOGETHER, WHAT A GREATER IRONY HOW IGBOS HAVE RECIEVED SO MUCH HOSPITALITY IN LAGOS THAT THE ARE EVEN CHAIRMEN OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. BUT THIS CAN ALMOST NEVER BE THE CASE IN IGBO LAND. A LAND WHICH NOTHING REIGNS EXCEPT ENIMITY AND DISUNITY AMIDST KITHS AND KINS.

Honor10:
don't worry, u folks will start crying soon, when we start cutting u to sizes

Viergeachar:
Your brothers offline are learning fast...

Continue beating empty chests online.

nedu666:
oga operation silent treatment has begun. Election is over, posts, views on nairaland is falling, only way of keeping nairaland going is by fools opening lgbo filled thread. Hence forth no more responding to any lgbo filled thread or comment.

gbosaa:
You are a sick person with diseased brain. Continue being stupid. You will surely get your reward.

teufelein:
IGBOS IN LAGOS

[s]By Dike Chukwumerije

I think integration is important for pragmatic reasons. That you can be an indigene in the same place your cousins are not. You understand? That there is no Nigerian today who does not cross the divide endlessly – an indigene here, a non-indigene there; an indigene now, a non-indigene tomorrow. So, to agree to a basic set of rights for everyone is not really politics.

Yes. Beyond the academic words of our constitution, let us begin to have these discussions - honest discussions - about the rights of non-indigenes. Same as the ones Europe is having. To define clear paths to integration for our internal migrants, same as we ask for our external ones. For we too must come to terms with this, that migration is a fact of life. Like the harmattan or the flood. It is something you manage, not stop. For it is driven by instincts older than any border, deeper than any culture, rooted in the most primitive parts of our humanity. See? Man was born a migrant.

So, how do we manage it? These are the honest conversations we must begin to have, same as in Europe. Beyond defining ‘citizenship rights’. Because there will be many who think, no problem, you can be a citizen of Nigeria but a non-indigene of this state. So, let us isolate the issue. Let us evolve simple answers to a direct question – what must a non-indigene do to become an indigene here? From local government to local government, from state to state, not something superimposed by an impersonal constitution, from town hall to town hall, from village meeting to village meeting, let us evolve simple answers to a direct question – if a stranger wants to become a full-fledged member of this community, what must he or she do? Tell us.

For even custom and tradition must deal with assimilation. Yes. I know of an Igbo community, for instance, with a mechanism for turning a woman into a man. You know? That at a certain age, she can do this and do that, and will thereafter be accorded the same privileges as a man. Or how there are rites for turning children into adults. You know? Before you do it, you are a girl. After you do it, you are a woman. Like this, I ask you, in this village, how can a non-indigene be turned into an indigene? Yes. Even if we start by saying, it is impossible, then haggle it down to a 10-year hurdle, it is better. If we say that after 10 years of residence in a state you can officially claim it as your state of origin, no ifs or buts or maybes, it is better than leaving these things unspoken.

And while we struggle with this, please let today’s non-indigene remain sensitive to this. That in countries with strong traditions of universal basic human rights, a minority group may rely on them alone for protection. But here, we are not yet there. Here, we must rely on my grandfather’s advice, ‘A na-eji mmadu a gba ogige.’ This is what he used to say. That if you want to be safe in your own compound, then help build the compounds of those who surround you. For, in a country with weak institutions, the best defense against hostile indigenes is friendly indigenes. Like this we must avoid isolation. For there will always be those, across ethnic lines, who share the belief that there will be no peace till one group has swallowed the other. This is normal. And they will re-tweet accusations but not rebuttals, turning every quarrel into a war of the tribes. This is normal. But there will also be those, across ethnic lines, who do not think like this. These are the ones who must find each other, and hold hands. Yes. These are the ones who must morph into that ‘centre’ which holds when (not if) incidents occur.

While we wait. Yes. While we wait for our constitution to evolve from Pinocchio into a real boy. For, in the end, it is true that the greatest obstacle to integration is the unpunished crime between us. For where perpetrators remain faceless, victims blame the group. This is why the Chinese say that one law properly enforced is worth the words of a thousand sages. I tell you. More strategic than Unity Schools and NYSC, without a doubt, the greatest investment a country can make in Peace is Justice. So that those who carry out dastardly acts, claiming to do so on behalf of entire groups, can be properly and publicly disowned. Yes. Only then will this matter rest[/s].

pchukwudi:
The east is actually one of the most densely populated regions in this country. Igbo's are in fact one of the most hospitable ethnic groups in the country.

This is why the average igbo person can migrate freely to any part of the WORLD (not just Lagos), establish himself and still stay in touch with his/her homeland.

But hopeless bigots like you are unaware of the amazing Igbo traits and their stranger-friendly cultures largely because you hardly leave your enclave. To you, life begins and ends in your state.


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olawalepopoola:
Only few Igbos are tolerant. As people had commented, most Igbos are not accommodating yet they expect other tribes to reciprocate with friendliness. They want to dominate other people's ancestral land without following the tradition of the people. Although the Hausa, Fulani and the Yorubas are not without their social flaws, they accommodate strangers.
Igbos claimed Israeli ancestry yet they forget what Yahweh said about accommodating strangers and how their ancestral parents were strangers in Eygpt and Babylon. They failed to understand the scripture which says "Do to others what you want them to do to you".

muykem:
Igbo are generally trouble maker due to their ego. Either we agree or not average igbo man like to ask other what they can't accept. I'm staying with them so I know what I saying. Imo state person can not work in Abia civil service even as a messenger. If they are so hostile within themselves then what happened to other tribes. I know many places in igbo land if you are not from there no matter how much you bring they will never sell land to you. These are the people calling Lagos no man's land meanwhile they didn't inherited a plot of land there but bought it from owner.

WisdomFlakes:
Like I said in an earlier thread, smart igbos should take a cue from Dangote. He's smart and diplomatic enough to not mix his businesses with politics and it has served him very well up till today. Even if he will vote Atiku he won't make noise about it. Igbos are majorly traders and there's always life after elections. You can't expect to enjoy favourable policies from the same political party whose candidate you are overtly working hard to undermine after such party/candidate ends up winning without your votes. They should be wise.

Jlow2:
if we can overtake all the regions economically after the civil war with only 20pounds in less dan a decade, then to hell with ur policies, the Germans lost d first and second world War but u have neva asked ur self why der conquerors respect dem till date

Rolings:
Ibos are not found all over the world because they are hospitable but because there is actually nothing for the average iboman in iboland. NOTHING..... that's why you see them scattered all over the world and they feel more comfortable outside their region than in it, the only tribe that develop other region (developers) rather than develop their own homeland........ The problem of ibos is first themselves then themselves, they are their own biggest enemy. You gave pmb 5% vote in 2015 yet expect him to give you all the juicy positions NEVER ...... You wailed for 4 years, and will wail for the next 4years

WisdomFlakes:
It's this sort of stupidity that keeps getting you lots into trouble with your hosts. Had Yorubas and other ethnicities not accepted y'all back into their communities and extended hands of fellowship to you in order for you to thrive in their midsts, you will be back in your village tapping palm wine. But I don't blame your type because igbo chestbeating seems to be a genetic disorder. Don't mention me again for your own good. You have been warned.

Jlow2:
as long as u mention me, I will mention u x10, GOD Take my life the day i fear a yoruba man, I will match you pound for pound, a yoruba man in ibeju lekki removed transformer he bought for his pple for voting apc dis hypocrites neva saw dat, we have bought 70% of lagos and still counting with our palm wine money, our crime in nigeria esp lagos is dat we re enterprising, we re buyin up ur ancestral land because u sold it, igbos have right as u do to vote whom so ever or party dey want irrespective of wer dey find dem selves in nigeria, ur small 3k juju u collected from ijebu ode is till u to warn me, lol

WisdomFlakes:
Smh. My original post was meant for sensible igbos, not useless and foolish ape-like chest thumping ediots and buffoons like you. You people are world-famous for having more brawn than brains, which is why in the end you all end up losers in spite of all your initial gra-gra. Na only una be non-indigenes wey dey Lagos? Abi na only una people dey buy land for Lagos wey you dey thump your useless chest like gorilla? Look, you can buy up as many plots of land as you wish in Lagos, but fact remains that your punk ass will still end up in igboland at the end of the day because the day you die your remains will be bundled back to your village for burial, so wetin you gain? And if you are lucky enough to have a c-of-o for that property you are bragging about, you will know that you are actually just a leasing tenant on that very land you are chestbeating about because it has an expiry date after which it will revert back to the state.


You people are just fortunate that Yoruba people are very liberal else your treatment would be worse than the one the ikwerres and ijaws dealth you lots after the civil war. Na your fellow simpletons , fit dey do gra-gra for, you ain't shyt to me. Olofo like you.

michelz:
Your post is riddled with so much falsehood and ignorance that reading it alone churns one's tommy. Why do you lie so effortlessly against a people you know almost nothing about?
Why does your heart brim with so much hatred for them?
I can only assure you that no matter your evil lies against them,an average Igboman would always be far better than you in all aspects of life.

WORDWORLD:
"When we begin to think that most people are no better than we, the world seems full of people who are fairly unpleasant" (Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the human condition)

WORDWORLD:
"Think, for example, about an Igbo becoming the chairman of Lagos Island Local Government and arrogating to himself the right under the laws of Nigeria and of Lagos State to issue instructions to the Oba of Lagos about how the Kabiyesi should conduct himself and govern his people. What will this breed?

That is what has been happening in countries from where the Igbos are being sent back home. It happened once in the North as Ahmadu Bello said in 1952. And seriously speaking, I believe this is why the North rejected Atiku Abubakar. The Igbos should reflect on this… Why does everyone tend to (hate) us?” https://www.nairaland.com/5055045/how-deal-problem-like-igbos

Jlow2:
if we can overtake all the regions economically after the civil war with only 20pounds in less dan a decade,then to hell with ur policies, the Germans lost d first and second world War but u have neva asked ur self why der conquerors respect dem till date

WORDWORLD:
"Meanwhile, their land back home is languid, crying and shouting for investment and development and they begin to talk about marginalisation. Did they not flower and (become) fruit(ful) under Obasanjo and Jonathan’s administrations? What happened to Igboland in those 16 years that they were not marginalised? What happened to Yorubaland in those 16 years that the Yorubas were marginalised that Yorubaland still continued to be a honey pot for the Igbo? I would go any day with Chief Emeka Anyaoku who looks at the world with universal spectacles. Succeeding Lagos governments have beautifully held the ethnic balance in Lagos and prevented ethnic disturbances. Igbos should stop saying they own Lagos or that they built Lagos or that Lagos is a “no man’s land”. Only a bastard Yorubaman will not feel affronted by such statements. And in spiritual terms, the man or woman who cannot defend his land is not fit to live. Wasn’t this the failure of the sons of the Incas"

https://www.nairaland.com/5055045/how-deal-problem-like-igbos

WORDWORLD:
This is another ILLUSION of yours. An illusion which feeds the disease of EGOCENTRICITY in you, making you puffed up with UNNECESSARY PRIDE.

And why does the Igbo landscape doesn't justify this economic advancement?!

Jlow2:
the igbo landscape even b4 and after the civil war is still better than ur brown roofs, in oyo ,osun, ogun, ekiti and ondo dat was not affected by the civil war, lagos and ogun state is wat is it because of its geographical location, and the bitter truth is when ever onitsha seaport kick start and others in South south becomes more operational the rest is history, because 80% of the import and export come from South East and south south, what eva igbos own in lagos they bought it with der money it's not our fault dat you decide to sell ur ancestral land and i refuse to sell mine at any price, all dis boils to lagos and especially because of the up coming governorship election,tinibu is doing everything to discredit the igbos by any means possible cos the out come of the presidential election in lagos and south west as a whole left them jetty even with all federal might, to an extent dey said i vote for pdp is ceding lagos to igbos, but I still ask them is agbage not a yoruba man? The highest hypocrisy is when you shout o toge in kwara and shout jagaban in lagos the final nail to the coffin is tinibu is not even an indigene of lagos, but watch how northern oligarchy will cut him to size b4 2023, because the out of the presidential election in South West and lagos especially has shown how irrelevant he is becoming

pchukwudi:
The east is actually one of the most densely populated regions in this country. Igbo's are in fact one of the most hospitable ethnic groups in the country.

This is why the average igbo person can migrate freely to any part of the WORLD (not just Lagos), establish himself and still stay in touch with his/her homeland.

But hopeless bigots like you are unaware of the amazing Igbo traits and their stranger-friendly cultures largely because you hardly leave your enclave. To you, life begins and ends in your state.


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