calculator123:

please start listing the so called disaster class. You don't see what EV sees. Roberto offers more defensively and just slightly behind Semedo attack wise..I really don't like it when you still talk done on his performance knowing well that isn't his natural position

Guy what are you saying! Roberto is better than semedo at attacking. That one isn't even a contest.

Semedo is better defensively...Semedo does not expose pique to pacy wingers like roberto.

Olamyyde:

Jesus christ! I don't know which matches u guys are watching. Did u watch the 1st leg of the classico (1-1), semedo dropped the best rb performance of the season in the match. But u people won't remember that, he has just one bad match and he is written off.


Semedo is miles ahead of roberto defensively and it's not even close. One world class performance by roberto does not change that. Besides roberto plays well vs madrid generally so let see him drop this kind of performance against ucl teams.

Great, Semedo had a beautiful first leg performance but what then happened in the 2nd leg??
Even when he was brought on yesterday, I still wasn't too confident knowing how Vinicius can out perform him especially on the run.
All in all i still feel semedo has alot to learn from Roberto game play. Dude has his positioning, vision etc top notch no hype

Olamyyde:

Guy what are you saying! Roberto is better than semedo at attacking. That one isn't even a contest.

Semedo is better defensively...Semedo does not expose pique to pacy wingers like roberto.

infact Roberto Trumps Semedo in both department, how can you say Roberto is better defensively eh?? maka why??
I guess Roberto was one of the reason for Pique MOTM performance. Dude is better defensively

Let me drop a roberto disasterclass performance this season.

Did u watch roberto in the ucl against inter, the match where icardi equalized? He was horrible in that match...perisic who has had his worst season in inter skinned him alive in that game. There are still many other games i can't remember.

calculator123:

infact Roberto Trumps Semedo in both department

That's a lie...roberto is better at attacking and crossing and passing. Semedo is better defensively.


Semedo's performance in the 1st leg of the copa del ray classico was far better than what roberto did yesterday.

IKON360:

he and Pique, I hope they aren't injured. But Messi looked comfortable later on sha.

we need him more now than Liga is done and dusted

calculator123:

infact Roberto Trumps Semedo in both department, how can you say Roberto is better defensively eh?? maka why??
I guess Roberto was one of the reason for Pique MOTM performance. Dude is better defensively

Lol...one of the reasons? Pique is a world class cb with or without roberto!

I no sabi which matches una dey watch oo...roberto better defensively lol


That's how some of you said vidal is useless or lenglet isn't good

Adiwana:


As I said before both players offer us different things and that is what I really like.Defensively I prefer Roberto and offensively I like Semedo more.Maybe generally,I will take Roberto.Semedo needs a Vidal kind of player who will cover his lapses but he's great offensively.He offers us a lot of pace at that right wing which for some seasons now,we have been really lacing as Messi is more of a CAM than RW. Due to him being that offensive,he's defending and positioning has not been that good which is where Roberto has been better.But Roberto doesn't offer us.what Semedo offers us offensively.He rarely attacks as a RW and him going forward is him just forming part of the 4 midfield players rather than being part of the front 3

exactly what I have trying to tell olamydde
Semedo tick the attacking box
Roberto ticks the defensive box.
Both have had their disaster classes as well as Master classes.
I still prefer Roberto because of his overall game play.

With the way lenglet has played this season, umtiti will find it hard to bench him.

Adiwana:


As I said before both players offer us different things and that is what I really like.Defensively I prefer Roberto and offensively I like Semedo more.Maybe generally,I will take Roberto.Semedo needs a Vidal kind of player who will cover his lapses but he's great offensively.He offers us a lot of pace at that right wing which for some seasons now,we have been really lacing as Messi is more of a CAM than RW. Due to him being that offensive,he's defending and positioning has not been that good which is where Roberto has been better.But Roberto doesn't offer us.what Semedo offers us offensively.He rarely attacks as a RW and him going forward is him just forming part of the 4 midfield players rather than being part of the front 3

exactly what I have trying to tell olamydde
Semedo tick the attacking box
Roberto ticks the defensive box.
Both have had their disaster classes as well as Master classes.
I still prefer Roberto because of his overall game play.
At the end of the day, all mallam to him kettle

This way Barca players score Messi esque kind of goals ehn, GOAT must be a great teacher

I think Alba and Messi needs to change their cut back and shoot combination, it is really very predictable match in match out and other teams are usually more aware of that back from Alba. An example was against Lyon, he kept on trying the cutback but to no avail. If we are to beat Lyon, they may have to tweak that pattern a little. Just my thought before una come for my head

Olamyyde:

Lol...one of the reasons? Pique is a world class cb with or without roberto!

True but then Roberto made job easier because he covers more ground defensively

Olamyyde:

Seriously i wonder if you people watch barca matches or just follow livescores. How can a normal barca fan that watches games week in weekly say roberto is better than semedo defensively. Do you know how many defensive disasterclasses roberto has dropped at the rb position in the past 3 years?

Semedo is world class defensively, pique plays better when semedo is on the field. Roberto has been hprrible defensively this season, he had his best game of the season yesterday.


This recency bias is just annoying

personally, I prefer Roberto to Semedo. But the only thing I am comparing is just two matches. Not entire seasons but two matches. TWO MATCHES!!
Between yesterday's match and the match last Wednesday, Semedo and Roberto who was better??
And by way of "disasters" tell me one match that Roberto was horrid, like so terrible that the whole was exasperated with his performance? You are the one that is biased against Roberto and not we that are supposedly biased against Semedo

Adiwana:


As I said before both players offer us different things and that is what I really like.Defensively I prefer Roberto and offensively I like Semedo more.Maybe generally,I will take Roberto.Semedo needs a Vidal kind of player who will cover his lapses but he's great offensively.He offers us a lot of pace at that right wing which for some seasons now,we have been really lacing as Messi is more of a CAM than RW. Due to him being that offensive,he's defending and positioning has not been that good which is where Roberto has been better.But Roberto doesn't offer us.what Semedo offers us offensively.He rarely attacks as a RW and him going forward is him just forming part of the 4 midfield players rather than being part of the front 3

the reason Jordi Alba and Semedo can push high enough is because they are pacey enough to recover when we lose possession. Roberto isn't that fast, Roberto and Pique's marking styles involve a lot of Shadow marking than actually getting their body in like Umtiti, Alba and Vidal. Semedo is good at dribbles but like I've said before, Semedo doesn't cross unlike Alba and Roberto. Roberto gives more sensible passes and Roberto understands threading through passes when he sees someone making a run behind the opposition defense. Things that Semedo has to learn. Offensively, Semedo dribbles better but his final ball has a lot to be desired.

Like you already know, Roberto is better ish defensively but with yesterday's performance, YESTERDAY o!! I'd go with Robeto over Semedo, even though I prefer Roberto to Semedo

Olamyyde:
I don't understand why coutinho was subbed for dembele yesterday. What does malcom have to do to start? He can't play any worse than how coutinho plays

uncle, the only way Malcolm will start is if Messi is injured. Malcolm has always been a RW, right winger, he is NOT versatile like Dembele. Why do you think that when Messi plays even Dembele that can play RW doesn't start that wing!! So Valverde should bench Messi and play Malcolm? I fear you o

Olamyyde:
I don't understand why coutinho was subbed for dembele yesterday. What does malcom have to do to start? He can't play any worse than how coutinho plays

Malcolm can learn to play left wing, that's what he should do to earn a place in the team. That match we played 2 2 that Messi scored twice and the 1st was a penalty, Dembele was injured and Countinho started, he was subbed off for Malcolm around around 70+ mins yet 3 minutes in, Malcolm ran to the right wing so Messi will cross to him, leaving just Alba on the left wing. By the time Malcolm came back to the left wing it was damn obvious he was terribly uncomfortable playing that wing. Valverde knows this and that is why Malcolm doesn't play, HE CAN'T PLAY THE LEFT WING COS HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW AND HE CAN'T PLAY THE RIGHT WING COS MESSI IS UNBENCHABLE.

calculator123:

Yet a certain isomerizm thinks otherwise. Nigga was a beast fearless as ever

Read my post again. I said he did well, but don't expect that kind of performance from him again anytime soon. Are you like, dyslexic or something?

Olamyyde:
With the way lenglet has played this season, umtiti will find it hard to bench him.

Am thinking something like that o

But don't you think umtiti is still first choice and will get back to the line up soon ?

naija01:
Yet some fans want Vidal sold...


Tackles - 100%

You they mind them bros

Say na everybody get sense ?

calculator123:

infact Roberto Trumps Semedo in both department, how can you say Roberto is better defensively eh?? maka why??
I guess Roberto was one of the reason for Pique MOTM performance. Dude is better defensively

Semedo is way better defensively... apart from that Madrid game Semedo performed bad vs vinicius, you can rarely point to his shortcoming defensively, but Roberto? Tons of defensive lapses

Isomerizm:
Read my post again. I said he did well, but don't expect that kind of performance from him again anytime soon. Are you like, dyslexic or something?

How can you say I shouldn't expect such performance from him again any time soon? Is that an hasty conclusion?

10Dove:
Semedo is way better defensively... apart from that Madrid game Semedo performed bad vs vinicius, you can rarely point to his shortcoming defensively, but Roberto? Tons of defensive lapses

all mallam with him kettle. I would actually pick a Roberto over a Semedo

calculator123:

all mallam with him kettle. I would actually pick a Roberto over a Semedo

Exactly! Choice!

Olamyyde:

Can u read what u just wrote? Yesterday was probably roberto's best defensive performance at barca. But semedo is on another level defensively(world class). To me semedo is better than roberto. People seem to have a short memory because of his poor game in the 2nd leg of the cdl classico.

Nah.He had those same defensive lapses against Vinicus in the first leg of the tie especially in the first half of that game. I said it here in this thread after that first half that Vinicus was giving us a lot of trouble but I guess people were too caught off by his 2nd half performance.Defensively Roberto is better.If you have watched Barca's games this season,you will notice that Valverde plays Vidal whenever he plays Semedo.Vidal is the one that does all the defensive work which then allows Semedo to play his game.Yes Semedo had a poor game in the first leg but had it been Vidal started that game ahead of Roberto,it wouldn't have that way.

Btw,I also said that Vidal was out best signing.What a great signing.Dude it has been for us

calculator123:

exactly what I have trying to tell olamydde
Semedo tick the attacking box
Roberto ticks the defensive box.
Both have had their disaster classes as well as Master classes.
I still prefer Roberto because of his overall game play.

Thank you for this.At the end of the day, each player offers us something different in different matches and that is what we actually need

IKON360:

the reason Jordi Alba and Semedo can push high enough is because they are pacey enough to recover when we lose possession. Roberto isn't that fast, Roberto and Pique's marking styles involve a lot of Shadow marking than actually getting their body in like Umtiti, Alba and Vidal. Semedo is good at dribbles but like I've said before, Semedo doesn't cross unlike Alba and Roberto. Roberto gives more sensible passes and Roberto understands threading through passes when he sees someone making a run behind the opposition defense. Things that Semedo has to learn. Offensively, Semedo dribbles better but his final ball has a lot to be desired.

Like you already know, Roberto is better ish defensively but with yesterday's performance, YESTERDAY o!! I'd go with Robeto over Semedo, even though I prefer Roberto to Semedo

I really agree with you.Once Semedo gets his final ball correctly,he could really be a Dani Alves.But you can't deny that he's game has really improved since he came to the team.Roberto on the other hand has also grown and in all,I think we all can agree that we need this kind of competition between our players

Adiwana:


Nah.He had those same defensive lapses against Vinicus in the first leg of the tie especially in the first half of that game. I said it here in this thread after that first half that Vinicus was giving us a lot of trouble but I guess people were too caught off by his 2nd half performance.Defensively Roberto is better.If you have watched Barca's games this season,you will notice that Valverde plays Vidal whenever he plays Semedo.Vidal is the one that does all the defensive work which then allows Semedo to play his game.Yes Semedo had a poor game in the first leg but had it been Vidal started that game ahead of Roberto,it wouldn't have that way.

Btw,I also said that Vidal was out best signing.What a great signing.Dude it has been for us

That is a big lie
Arthur is our best signing
The pesin that scouted and sign him deserves two bottles of chilled Goldberg

Vinicius wasn't much of a threat yesterday but I wouldn't completely allude it to roberto. Vinicius' decision making is terrible as was evident in the first leg so solari tried to reduce the shooting burden on him. He was instructed to find benzema and bale in space, both of whom have better accuracy or At least are supposed to.

So unlike the first game where vinicius was constantly burning semedo with pace and was always looking to cut in, in yesterday's game we saw more of crosses and lay offs from him. And the fact that pique and rakitic all teamed up to support Roberto was also a masterstroke, semedo didn't get that much support in the first leg, he was often left isolated against not just vinicius but regulion.

Roberto offers loads more in attack as can be seen in his assist and goal numbers but semedo is better defensively. At the end of the day, it all boils down to finding the right balance.

calculator123:

How can you say I shouldn't expect such performance from him again any time soon? Is that an hasty conclusion?

Hasty conclusion? What hasty conclusion? Do you know what hasty conclusion is?

Did you also read the part where I said, I'm hoping he keep up with and improve on yesterday's performance, but I'm not expecting?

Adiwana:


Nah.He had those same defensive lapses against Vinicus in the first leg of the tie especially in the first half of that game. I said it here in this thread after that first half that Vinicus was giving us a lot of trouble but I guess people were too caught off by his 2nd half performance.Defensively Roberto is better.If you have watched Barca's games this season,you will notice that Valverde plays Vidal whenever he plays Semedo.Vidal is the one that does all the defensive work which then allows Semedo to play his game.Yes Semedo had a poor game in the first leg but had it been Vidal started that game ahead of Roberto,it wouldn't have that way.

Btw,I also said that Vidal was out best signing. What a great signing.Dude it has been for us

Wait,what?