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Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by GreatResearcher: 11:03pm On Mar 04, 2019
If a man takes a wife and, after
sleeping with her, dislikes her and
slanders her and gives her a bad
name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,” then the young woman’s father and mother shall bring to the town elders at the gate proof that she was a virgin.

Her father will say to the elders, “I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.” Then her
parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, and the elders shall take the man and punish him. They shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver and give them to the young woman’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives.

If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.
Re: Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by GreatResearcher: 11:08pm On Mar 04, 2019
I have a project am working on it involves religion and i've been going through the bible and quran lately. What i see there menh.. This imaginary god is more wicked than anything else in the world. He's always ordering his followers to kill.
Re: Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by GreatResearcher: 11:10pm On Mar 04, 2019
God has killed more people than Queen Elizabeth's army
Re: Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by Priyemcdavs001(m): 11:30pm On Mar 04, 2019
Yes according to the bible God stated it that men should not wear female clothes and women should not also wear male clothes,and trousers are meant for the male beings
Re: Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by Aaronsrod: 11:50pm On Mar 04, 2019
GreatResearcher:
I have a project am working on it involves religion and i've been going through the bible and quran lately. What i see there menh.. This imaginary god is more wicked than anything else in the world. He's always ordering his followers to kill.

This is a foolish question.

It is obvious you are an unbeliever.

Remember the Bible tells us God is the Lord of Hosts, a jealous God and a consuming fire!! There are many accounts of his wrath and mighty anger.

It is well.

How can we claim to worship Him if we will not kill and die for Him??

Is your athiest faith even half as strong as ours

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Re: Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by GreatResearcher: 11:56pm On Mar 04, 2019
Priyemcdavs001:
Yes according to the bible God stated it that men should not wear female clothes and women should not also wear male clothes,and trousers are meant for the male beings
so is this ur thougt on a wicked god who ordered that nonvirgins should be killed?
Re: Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by GreatResearcher: 11:59pm On Mar 04, 2019
Aaronsrod:


This is a foolish question.

It is obvious you are an unbeliever.

Remember the Bible tells us God is the Lord of Hosts, a jealous God and a consuming fire!! There are many accounts of his wrath and mighty anger.

It is well.

How can we claim to worship Him if we will not kill and die for Him??

Is your athiest faith even half as strong as ours
My wuestion is a stupid one bcus it oinvolves a wicked god whose major work is to kill.
Re: Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by malvisguy212: 11:57am On Mar 05, 2019
GreatResearcher:

If a man takes a wife and, after
sleeping with her, dislikes her and
slanders her and gives her a bad
name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,” then the young woman’s father and mother shall bring to the town elders at the gate proof that she was a virgin.

Her father will say to the elders, “I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.” Then her
parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, and the elders shall take the man and punish him. They shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver and give them to the young woman’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives.

If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.
listen very careful , she was not stone for not being a Virgin, she was stone for being a deceptive liar claiming to be a Virgin .

secondly , to remove the evil of adulterous/
fornication from the community, stoning was
advocated.

Grace supersede the law. we are in the dispensation of GRACE .
Re: Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by malvisguy212: 11:59am On Mar 05, 2019
GreatResearcher:
God has killed more people than Queen Elizabeth's army
can you prove this.
Re: Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by malvisguy212: 12:00pm On Mar 05, 2019
GreatResearcher:
I have a project am working on it involves religion and i've been going through the bible and quran lately. What i see there menh.. This imaginary god is more wicked than anything else in the world. He's always ordering his followers to kill.
we are waiting for the thread .
Re: Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by GreatResearcher: 3:20pm On Mar 05, 2019
malvisguy212:
listen very careful , she was not stone for not being a Virgin, she was stone for being a deceptive liar claiming to be a Virgin .

secondly , to remove the evil of adulterous/
fornication from the community, stoning was
advocated.

Grace supersede the law. we are in the dispensation of GRACE .
why has grace not supersede paying of tithes? Mention one person dat paid tithes during jesus time
Re: Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by malvisguy212: 5:44pm On Mar 05, 2019
GreatResearcher:
why has grace not supersede paying of tithes? Mention one person dat paid tithes during jesus time
Matthew 23:23
Re: Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by Maxi3k(m): 6:05pm On Mar 05, 2019
GreatResearcher:

If a man takes a wife and, after
sleeping with her, dislikes her and
slanders her and gives her a bad
name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,” then the young woman’s father and mother shall bring to the town elders at the gate proof that she was a virgin.

Her father will say to the elders, “I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.” Then her
parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, and the elders shall take the man and punish him. They shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver and give them to the young woman’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives.

If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.
guy dis one small just go tour Leviticus your eyes go tear
Re: Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by ponziponzi(m): 6:47pm On Mar 05, 2019
malvisguy212:
listen very careful , she was not stone for not being a Virgin, she was stone for being a deceptive liar claiming to be a Virgin .

secondly , to remove the evil of adulterous/
fornication from the community, stoning was
advocated.

Grace supersede the law. we are in the dispensation of GRACE .

And you think stoning someone to death for not being a virgin is a fair enough punishment? Just imagine if this person is your daughter, sister or mother, just imagine the agony before death. Religion can really make a sane person justify unimaginably wicked things.
Re: Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by malvisguy212: 7:16pm On Mar 05, 2019
ponziponzi:


And you think stoning someone to death for not being a virgin is a fair enough punishment? Just imagine if this person is your daughter, sister or mother, just imagine the agony before death. Religion can really make a sane person justify unimaginably wicked things.
you know what baffled me ? you atheist imposed ancient culture with present-day moral system , Sexual purity was very highly valued, unlike
today; and when a man would marry a woman, her virginity was critical. In ancient times a dowry was paid to the father of the bride, and the rightful expectation was that the bride would be a virgin.
Re: Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by ponziponzi(m): 7:48pm On Mar 05, 2019
malvisguy212:
you know what baffled me ? you atheist imposed ancient culture with present-day moral system , Sexual purity was very highly valued, unlike
today; and when a man would marry a woman, her virginity was critical. In ancient times a dowry was paid to the father of the bride, and the rightful expectation was that the bride would be a virgin.

So, the God that created the whole universe and who is omniscience does not know that killing a person by stoning them to death for not being a virgin is cruel? It had to take the intervention of mortal beings to stop the barbaric act.

BTW, it is still happening in some part of the world for religious purpose. It beats me how people will choose to use the morals of some semi-illiterate goat herder (2000-5000 years ago) to live in this 21st century.

Re: Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by Rossikki: 10:12pm On Mar 05, 2019
Don't forget the high likelihood that some people inserted these cruel verses into the bible in the past in order to enhance their own power, and then claim God was the 'originator' of them.
Re: Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by malvisguy212: 11:44pm On Mar 05, 2019
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Re: Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by malvisguy212: 11:44pm On Mar 05, 2019
ponziponzi:


So, the God that created the whole universe and who is omniscience does not know that killing a person by stoning them to death for not being a virgin is cruel? It had to take the intervention of mortal beings to stop the barbaric act.

BTW, it is still happening in some part of the world for religious purpose. It beats me how people will choose to use the morals of some semi-illiterate goat herder (2000-5000 years ago) to live in this 21st century.
God want them to take sexual purity seriously, the mosaic law take sexuality seriously, if you read further you will see the reason of this law.:
Deuteronomy 22:21
21 then they shall bring out the young woman
to the door of her father’s house, and the
men of her city shall stone her to death with
stones, because she has done an outrageous
thing in Israel by WHORING in her father’s
house. SO YOU SHALL PURGE THE EVIL FROM YOUR MIDST.


notice the stoning to be carry out in her father house because that is were she commit the act. this law was given to a specific set of people at a specific time to a stubborn nation. Children of God are no longer bound
to observe the Law of Moses, but the law’s underlying principles remain true. For example, marriage is still a
sacred union of a man and a woman for a lifetime, and adultery is wrong.The New Testament teaches believers to flee from sexual immorality .
Re: Bible Scholars Please What Are Your Thoughts On Deut 22:13-21? by ponziponzi(m): 1:48am On Mar 06, 2019
malvisguy212:
God want them to take sexual purity seriously, the mosaic law take sexuality seriously, if you read further you will see the reason of this law.:
Deuteronomy 22:21
21 then they shall bring out the young woman
to the door of her father’s house, and the
men of her city shall stone her to death with
stones, because she has done an outrageous
thing in Israel by WHORING in her father’s
house. SO YOU SHALL PURGE THE EVIL FROM YOUR MIDST.

notice the stoning to be carry out in her father house because that is were she commit the act. this law was given to a specific set of people at a specific time to a stubborn nation. Children of God are no longer bound
to observe the Law of Moses, but the law’s underlying principles remain true. For example, marriage is still a
sacred union of a man and a woman for a lifetime, and adultery is wrong.The New Testament teaches believers to flee from sexual immorality .

Let me ask you a question. Do you believe it is proper for someone to be stone to death for not being a virgin?

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