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| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by loswhite(m): 12:54pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:all your post is about sex with your mother...smh. you are just a waste pipe |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by Horlufemi(m): 1:09pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:It's useless trying to talk sense into you. Those who believe without reason are impossible to convince with reason. Cheers. Prosperity Gospel and Mammon Peddler |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI(op): 1:12pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
loswhite:You find it disgusting right? Your friends want us to throw away the law that prohibits doing that. Now, who's disgusting? |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI(op): 1:13pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
Horlufemi:The problem you have with the option is tithing which it mentioned. Take away tithing and examined the rest. You still won't succeed in rubbish it. |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by Darevofpeace(m): 1:32pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
snowxandria:by his comments, we shall identify him,shouting "use ur head and you have been warned upandan" |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by arrestdarrester: 2:04pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
The Op here is confused. No one can operate 2 covenants. You may believe both old and new covenants but you cannot operate both. All this confusion about whether Christians are to obey the law stems from legalistic mindsets that have failed to realize that Christ is our law giver and the Spirit of God he gives us is our law. The Lord Jesus was not observing the law and yet He did not break a single law. |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by loswhite(m): 2:11pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:We are not under any law bros carry your law to isreal |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI(op): 2:16pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
loswhite:Then go and have sex with your mama tonight. |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI(op): 2:18pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
arrestdarrester:Was Jesus Christ not the same person that gave the laws in the old testament? Is the job of the Holy Spirit not to remind us of those laws? |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by babeosisi: 2:19pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:This is such an ignorant post.This shows you don't know why Christ cane,you don't know the impact of his death and resurrection First of all you are not a jew Laws were for Jews outside Christ,you are not one. Secondly there are 613 laws and ordinances ,how you pick and choose which to keep and which to discard beats me. You already gave answers to your own questions. You need a hood bible teacher after being born again |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by sacx: 2:35pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
OP, you don't understand the gospel |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by Kingv(m): 2:36pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
You do not read for knowledge This was a cry of the Psalmist for Jerusalem against Babylonians after they overthrew Jerusalem Psalms expresses emotions. He was bitter against what was done to the Israelites and was crying out for vegeance Korllami007: |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by sacx: 2:41pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:The law was given to men whose spirits were dead, are you aware? Do you have a dead spirit sir? |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI(op): 2:49pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
babeosisi:The part of the 613 laws which we are not to keep have been clearly scripted in the new testament. Examples are laws of diverse washings which has been stopped. To know which ones to pick, simply use the rule of thumb: Whatever Jesus changed about the old testament laws in the new Testament means it is done away with and replaced with the new. Whatever part of the old testament which he didn't change in the new testament just know that we are to continue with it as it was in the old testament. |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI(op): 2:50pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
sacx:Where is that written? Since it was written for men with dead spirit, then go and sleep with your sister since your own spirit is alive and the law is not for you |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by Kingv(m): 2:52pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
It is painful seeing that Christians believe God in their hearts without actions to back it up. They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. Titus:1:16 The prophesy of what we are enjoying today as Grace can be seen in Eze 36 vs 25-27 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. Ezekiel:36:25 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. Ezekiel:36:26 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. Ezekiel:36:27 Vs 27- The spirit that God promised here is to help us remember the whole law and to obey them The weakness of the law is just on the part that it does not have the will power for one to be obedient to it. Because we were carnal and the law spiritual( Rom. 7) INORDER FOR US TO BE OBEDIENT TO THE LAW WE NEED TO BE SPIRITUAL---ADVENT OF GRACE THROUGH OUR LORD JESUS For the grace of God hath appeared, bringing salvation to all men, instructing us, to the intent that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly and righteously and godly in this present world; Titus 2:11-12 ASV Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. Romans:3:31 Keep it up OP...more grace to you |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by Horlufemi(m): 2:54pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:Tithing is the Koko of your teachings. The Gospel of God wants you to be rich on Earth right now. That's the focus of your kind of teaching while ignoring the Koko of Christ's teachings. Love. The New Commandment to "love one another" which, according to the Bible, was given as part of the final instructions to his disciples. Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come; so now I say to you. 34 A NEW COMMANDMENT I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. —John 13:33–35 (KJV; emphasis added) The ten commandments is the same as the new commandment Love God, Love your neighbor (First 4) Love God, (last 6) Love your neighbor. Many laws in the old testament are redundant. Reason: you can't keep all of them. The ten commandments however are based on love. You can't break one without breaking the rest. Love is the centre of The message of Christ not keeping old testament laws. The spirit of God will teach you how to love. Everything you do in Christianity is waste of energy without love. If you like speak all the languages of the world, raise the dead, heal the sick but if you don't have love. No eternal life for you. God is love that's why love is absolute in Christianity. Faith will take you to heavens gate, love will take you in. My dear bagdaddy Keeping commandments is not the Koko. Love is the Koko Be perfect like your father in heaven is perfect. You can't miss it with love. Cheers bagdaddy ![]() |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI(op): 3:00pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
Horlufemi:Funny man. .How do you claim you love God when you disobey is commandments? Examples: Don't bow down to idols, don't covet, don't have sex with a kin, don't wear woman's clothes etc? But according to you, you do t need to obey those laws, just have love. Jesus said if you love him you will keep his commandments. How can you say you have LOVE when such love doesnt involve keeping God's commandments? |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI(op): 3:03pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
Kingv:Thanks very much. Don't mind those ignoramuses that have been deceived. Thanks for the last verse you quoted. That was Apostle Paul talking about establishing the law. Yet these deceivers say the law has been done away with. |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by sacx: 3:04pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:You are employing defence mechanism here. See below: 1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. Death reigned from Adam; reasons why the law was given. I'm alive in Christ. By the reason of the constituent of the life which I AM, I cannot sin. This is my testimony, and the testimony of every believer. |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI(op): 3:07pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
sacx:How does this say the old testament was written for dead men? ![]() |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by sacx: 3:09pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:This is how you people ere. You pick one verse and misinterpret it. Go and read verse 27 and 28 |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by Horlufemi(m): 3:10pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:Christians have broken the 613 Commandments into three categories for nearly two thousand years: The Judicial Commandments, on how Israel should run herself as a civil state were only valid for Israel. They may or may not be valid if your country’s government enacts similar laws. They have no moral standing one way or the other. (Tithing falls under here) The Ceremonial Commandments, like nailing a Mezuzah to the lintel, wearing tassels, men covering their head while praying, keeping Kosher, and circumcising male infants. These commandments were all foreshadowing the Messiah. To obey them now would be to state your belief that the Messiah had not come and you were still awaiting him. Thus it has been a serious sin to obey any of these commandments and think that in them you are saving yourself. (Sacrifices fall under here) The Moral Commandments : ie: the Ten Commandments- these are based on our natures and are universal. They are valid for all men at all times, and thus are the ones that Christ concentrated on and taught, and expanded for His Church. (Love God and your neighbor) I'm confident you don't understand this, no scratch that, I'm confident you will reject this. You are simply adamant and you cannot reason. You lack understanding. Don't worry there're plenty of mugu for you to ensnare. Mugu no dey finish. My happiness is that someone with see this and have that veil removed and have understanding. Shalom bagdaddy |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by sacx: 3:15pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:All die in Adam. All are alive in Christ. All the generations from Adam till Jesus Christ has death in their spirit on the account of sin. It was for this purpose Christ came. See also: Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by princeade86(m): 3:28pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:can u see urself. And u call urself a believer. So other bible was written by devil abi, except kjv. Hmmmmmm |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by Dhumancanvas: 4:00pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:So without the old testament to tell you not to have sex with yout mum you will be having that hot steamy sex with your mum you been going on about? |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by Dhumancanvas: 4:02pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:So without the old testament to tell you not to have sex with your mum you would be having hot steamy sex with your mum right now right? |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by Xmen149(m): 4:10pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-P0bm3SeQs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khS2iLTLzlA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDQ0w_f5P2s https://anonhq.com/vatican-remove-14-books-bible-1684/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_of_the_Bible |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by Xmen149(m): 4:10pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
more later |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by Lotechi(m): 4:27pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:you should strive to make the world a better place in anyway you can. Let's focus on how we can improve the world we live in. |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI(op): 4:37pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
Xmen149:They we're not removed from the Bible but prevented from being included in the Bible. Those books contain heresies. Some of them even say Jesus never died. According to you, any Tom dick and Harry can write a book and call it gospel which must be included in the Bible. Stop watching YouTube my friend |
| Re: Are We Truly Not To Obey The Old Testament Laws Anymore? by alBHAGDADI(op): 4:40pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
Dhumancanvas:Were people not doing it before Christian civilization? Are people not practicing incest today? Romans 3:20 for by the law is the knowledge of sin. |
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